Who is actually in the right?
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Who is actually in the right?
Who is actually in the right?
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The Dinobots
Neither. It's WAR.
So Hitler and Roosevelt were equally right?
they were both literally Hitler
>Hitler is literally Hitler
that's deep man
Kek.
That robot is hot, is that the star scream I’ve heard about?
No one is right in war.
The side with the cooler robots
Yes, the Decepticons
Like all things, it depends on the continuity.
Autobots
Unironically this. The average Pred is more innocent than your average Autobot or Maximals. Your average pred isn’t part ofc standing army, isnt participating in any abomination experiments, is just at the mercy of a government vide to their ancestors, and is run by a corrupt , non-Predacon ruling body that infiltrated the government and doesn’t care for its citizens.
Considering we don't ever really see Predacons that aren't allied with Megatron, this feels like some pretty heavy assumption.
IDW's BW doesn't count, everybody's a dickhole under IDW's writing.
Maximal shills detected. The Maximals are so corrupt you could be a civilian who signs up for an exploration mission and STILL end up in a huge coverup
>Hey you were those guys going on an exploration mission right? Yeah we got a..thing..we'd like you to take care of
>Careful he bites
>Really just anywhere if fine. Just far from here. What did he do? uh, lets just say we've got to tweak some population counts in some colonies. Because there is no population anymore.
>ok preds you can live on Cybertron peacefully you just can't murder everyone and conquer the galaxy ok
>WTF THIS IS MAXIMAL OPPRESSION
Both were right when it came to Cybertron. Both wanted changes and reforms. Thing is the Decepticons got radicalized too much while the Autobots were too slow when it came to reforms. Then their war spilled outside of Cybertronian space and it all went haywire...
In all honesty in a perfect world we'd get a Beast Wars series that also shows us how Cybertron looks under the Pax-Cybertronia. How Maximals and Predacons live side-by-side and if the stuff about them being repressed is true.
I only watched Beast Wars. They seemed like buttholes.
>modern continuities often have the Autobots as a corrupt ruling class and the Decpticons as poor dindus
I notice a lot of writing puts more emphasis on the past than the present.
"Ooh Decepticons never did anything wrong, they were just fighting for their rights. Who cares if they conquer other planets and squish humans for fun now?"
That and IDW had a penchant for dealing Optimus the shittiest hand, he deals with the best he can, and then everyone blames him or scapegoats him when thing invariably go south.
The original writing was so hilariously shifted in the Autobots favor that I support any change to make the conflict more grey
Also the decepticons are just cooler
Cobra kai effect. Stories can't be Black&White except is about WW2
Because muh slavery
Whole civilizations must be sacrificed to appease the almighty dinducepticons because a long time ago a bunch of people they already ruined mistreated them so now everyone else who already considered that a bad thing need to suffer.
Nemesis Prime
The one who wins
Despite making only 13% of the general population, red-eyed Cybertronians are responsible for over 50% of all acts of violence since 1984.
Autobots want to protect humans because they see all sentient life as precious, while Decepticons want to subjugate humans and view them as inferior expendables who can die in the crossfire or be killed by their soldiers for the lulz for all they care. Regardless of what their original political beef was back on their own planet, it's kind of hard to side with the Decepticons.
Skywarp was helping Earth by stopping the spread of another Covid, you monster.
>kills millions of Chinese people
>proceeds to call them bugs
holy based
>That filename
I had to look it up, that actually happened? Lol. I guess IDW was really desperate to make their Hasbro shared universe happen.
The Predacons.
Shockwave.
The way I've always interpreted it, Transformers is a cautionary tale. The destruction of Cybertron isn't a tragedy, because the Cybertronians brought it onto themselves through petty wars. They DESERVED to be driven into near-extinction, like the Saiyans from DBZ or the Eldar from 40k. That's why Optimus and the Autobots are in the right for focusing on passing the mantle to humanity instead of selfishly pursuing a lost cause by trying to revive Cybertron like the Decepticons. The Autobots are not "race traitors".
>The Autobots are not "race traitors".
Except in Bayformers, where they keep actively trying to cause their own race's extinction.
Heck no Optimus was going to get a sweet upgrade from the Allspark because he was a Prime until Sam fricked it for him. That it took him that long to turn on the little apes is a credit to his valor.
Optimus launched the Allspark into space, condemning Cybertron and all who lived there to death because he couldn't take losing the war, and then proceeded to not just stop the Decepticons from endangering Earth, but destroyed any means of saving Cybertron that they'd found.
Cybertron had its chance.
Cracks me up
An Optimus that would save his planet at the expense of another would be the worst Optimus.
>An Optimus that would save his planet at the expense of another would be the worst Optimus.
Nobody except Bayformers Megatron is asking for Optimus to sacrifice another world to save Cybertron, the point is that Bayformers Optimus is the one who doomed Cybertron in the first place because if he couldn't win the war, nobody could, and he won't even entertain the idea of finding a way to save Cybertron. If he was trying to find a way to save his world without harming others, it wouldn't be so bad.
The Decepticons were right, the universe must be brought to heel and made orderly.
SG Optimus Prime
Arcee
Who's she for anon
Love
full of love
Doesn't it seem odd that the majority of Cybertron's population seem to be based on Decepticon forms? If the war just ended and they turned to democratic rule, they'd probably be the ones in charge.
Not all of the civilians are based on Reflector.
A lot of them are based on Bumblebee, Cliffjumper and Hubcap’s simple designs
Who the hell is Hubcap?
he's like Bumper but with a red face, unless he's red with an orange face
The forgotten minivehicle. Despite being part of the 1986 assortment, he was never in the cartoon or Marvel comics, a profile was written for him but never published and no known animation model was ever found.
Nobody knows why he was excluded.
Which continuity are you asking about?
Tripredacus, the true leader of the
Predacon and the real big bad of the breast war behind the scene through all the seasons
Never mentioned again and was kill off off screen in the sequel.
Why did they did this ?
I'd rather his non-union Mexican equivalent
GRACIAS AMIGO
*mariachi band plays*
>the breast war
Boobicons vs. Flatobots?
A much more philosophic war than we've seen in other continuities.
b***h Wars
The side with the greatest robot husband of all time, confirmed by thousands, who beat the shit out of the semifinalist and swept the vote with ease.
really depends on which continuity you're talking about. i think currently the autobots were a ruling class (elites) or some bs.
original tv continuity - decepticons wanted power/energon and conquer.
tv continuity - 3rd season it was added that the quints made the autobots (software/pleasure bots) and decepticons (military/fighters)
after the quints got overthrown the autobots/decepticons tried living peacefully, but the decepticons were still hardwired as well the autobots. so you can say they were simply following their programming.
Zeon
Space Australia is not a valid answer.
Is he better as just straight up evil, a freedom fighter who has lost his way, or a despot using the guise of revolution to gain power?
I prefer the freedom fighter who lost his way, rendered cruel and brutal by millennia of war and conquest, who revolution has come full circle where the Autobots more fully embody the free and equal society that he once dreamed of that includes not just Cybertronians but alien races as well.
I honestly prefer the straight up evil G1/Sunbow Megatron, I don't like the idea of pre-war Cybertron being an awful place or the Autobots fighting to uphold and preserve an oppressive regime and more than I like the Decepticons being turned into a crappy analogy for Russian communists by IDW.
>Who is actually in the right?
The Predacons. They're basically Post-WWI Germany except they never embracted the Nazi party.
More like post-cold war Russia. Remember BW was made during the late 90s.
That too, but the oppressive restrictions placed on its people via unilateral 'negociations' that basically cripple them and make them 3rd class citizens (and make them easyly succeptable to the words of charismatic renegades) are more like the ruinous post WWI Germany circumstances, which eventually led to the Nazis taking power precicely because they promised to topple the Predacon government who continued to enforce those economy-ruining restrictions that cut the lifespan by 20 years and anull all reparatons.
And the war crimes tribunerals that stopped most Decepticons from joining the Predacons are really more like the Hague after WWII.
What's their tax policy?
Aren't there gonna be Maximals and Predacons in the next film? How is there an Optimus Primal existing simultaneously with Optimus Prime? Isn't the point of Primal that he was named after a famous dead guy?
Maximals and Terrorcons.
>How is there an Optimus Primal existing simultaneously with Optimus Prime? Isn't the point of Primal that he was named after a famous dead guy?
I think time travel will be involved.
This single leaked piece of merch seems to tell us there are Predacons too.
There robot cast might be super bloated with no-line background fodder bots.
Since far we know there a 5 Autobots, 4 Maximals, 3 Terrorcons, and however many Predacons
Whoever said that freedom is the right of all intelligent life.