who is the biggest hack in the industry?

who is the biggest hack in the industry?

  1. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    >oh no they look slightly similar
    Losers really salty over success of a true hustler like Butch huh...

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      >Paying for a commission that's essentially a shittier version of what someone else drew for free.
      I know it's more for getting something drawn by a(n in)famous person, but that's still pretty shitty.

      Was animated in South Korea. I don't agree with the other anon, though.

      A lot of cartoons and anime are animated by korean slaves though.

      I never liked the hartman shows, sure, they have hot females like maddie, but just that. the humor is shit and development as well. and he, not telling to his fans that he would use the money for religious cartoons is a bad move, Im a believer but I would not play that dirty, specially because I know not all the people is into that or probably they are part of different religions. it would be the same as asking people for doing atheist propaganda

      HOWEVER. the whole trace drama is retarded. I think people is saying he trace only because they expected he drawing like stephen silver, the actual designer of his shows

      >but they have the same poses as the original pictures
      that's eyeballing and that's ok. they would look less shitty if he was actually tracing

      It wasn't traced though, he posted a speedpaint process. He just heavily references. With how his drawings usually come out, I don't think he's really a professional illustrator.

      • 1 week ago
        guy

        >pretty shitty
        It's standard you buffoon. Expecting someone to understand a character well enough without hours of research to make a unique expressive character pose for just a single commission is unreasonable.
        Most artists just draw their commissions with similar bodies or copy the official art in their style.

        If y'all don't know anything about doing art as a job, avoid the topic. You're just pushing unfair expectations

        • 1 week ago
          Anonymous

          As if you of all people would even have an inkling of what goes into the process of drawing.

          • 1 week ago
            guy

            >As if you of all people
            This phrase always earns a STFU, this place isn't for anonymous cowards to start their nonsense drama

            >It's standard you buffoon
            >straight up copying someone else's art and calling it "reference"
            You're being paid to put your own twist into the art, and you're expected to not just copying the original's pose. clothing and expression using something like "muh reference" as excuse.

            This is a worse likeness than what Butch does which goes to show how little you know.

            You don't get to make up any rules for commission artists, that's just you trying to shop around your entitlement. If you don't like their commissions, don't hire them, end of story

            1. stop being a retard, Butch will not fuck you.
            2. The dude just straight up copied someone else's work with barely any modification, if this were a court Butch would had lost.
            3. You're a fucking waste of air, have a nice day now.

            >Butch will not fuck you
            People should who say this shit should not try to sound intelligent or pretend like they have an "argument." Go home manchild

            >Expecting someone to understand a character well enough without hours of research to make a unique expressive character pose for just a single commission is unreasonable.
            As a porn artist I can tell you this is utter bullshit

            So you're bitter at a better, Christian artist

            • 1 week ago
              Anonymous

              >Copy posing, clothing, expression while passing it as original
              At say it's a redraw, you fucking monkey. You could get away with this excuse if you were using the official reference sheet, but this a redraw/copy of another guy's art, brainlet.

        • 1 week ago
          Anonymous

          >It's standard you buffoon
          >straight up copying someone else's art and calling it "reference"
          You're being paid to put your own twist into the art, and you're expected to not just copying the original's pose. clothing and expression using something like "muh reference" as excuse.

          • 1 week ago
            Anonymous

            >straight up copying
            You truly have no fucking clue what you're talking about
            > put your own twist into the art
            Yeah you draw it in you artstyle you moron

            • 1 week ago
              Anonymous

              By your logic the traced shit on deviantart is legit, because they are doing on their own artstyle too, fucking retard.

              • 1 week ago
                Anonymous

                >traced and referenced is the same
                have a nice day also it probably won't really be in it's own artstyle if it's traced

              • 1 week ago
                Anonymous

                1. stop being a retard, Butch will not fuck you.
                2. The dude just straight up copied someone else's work with barely any modification, if this were a court Butch would had lost.
                3. You're a fucking waste of air, have a nice day now.

        • 1 week ago
          Anonymous

          >two right hands
          >it's standard

        • 1 week ago
          Anonymous

          >Expecting someone to understand a character well enough without hours of research to make a unique expressive character pose for just a single commission is unreasonable.
          As a porn artist I can tell you this is utter bullshit

        • 1 week ago
          Anonymous

          >Expecting someone to understand a character well enough without hours of research to make a unique expressive character pose for just a single commission is unreasonable.
          >"Unfair expectations"
          I've already known this before but it's pretty obvious nobody has commissioned you, so don't bring up experience. I've seen anatomy-fucked artists put more effort into their commissions. An artist doesn't have to learn every bit about a character's story, just find some reference art and a pose you'd like to do. You're really defending this garbage

          $200 btw

          >two right hands
          >it's standard

          >straight up copying
          You truly have no fucking clue what you're talking about
          > put your own twist into the art
          Yeah you draw it in you artstyle you moron

          I don't think you understand what he's trying to say.

          • 1 week ago
            guy

            >I've already known this before
            Shut up you loser doing personal harassment, blowing hot air in obvious frustration. You don't care about the truth, butch hartman, or art.

            >Copy posing, clothing, expression while passing it as original
            At say it's a redraw, you fucking monkey. You could get away with this excuse if you were using the official reference sheet, but this a redraw/copy of another guy's art, brainlet.

            Gibbering.

            I have this one, but I remember there's one with the actual heavy for side-by-side comparison, which makes it strike harder

            What "strike harder"? It's just a drawing he did, it speaks to your poor mental state that you expect people to even know why you care so much about it.

            You could literally pay a 14-year-old on Deviantart $10 and get something a magnitude better than this.

            You should stop running your mouth because it sure feels like a good time to resume drawing fanart of his characters. The last time I did a single drawing in 16 minutes it mindbroke one of you trolls for months

            Anyway, you're older than 14 so why don't you show us what you can do

            • 1 week ago
              Anonymous

              >Shut up you loser doing personal harassment, blowing hot air in obvious frustration. You don't care about the truth, butch hartman, or art.
              >Gibbering.
              >What "strike harder"? It's just a drawing he did, it speaks to your poor mental state that you expect people to even know why you care so much about it.
              >You should stop running your mouth because it sure feels like a good time to resume drawing fanart of his characters. The last time I did a single drawing in 16 minutes it mindbroke one of you trolls for months
              >Anyway, you're older than 14 so why don't you show us what you can do

              • 1 week ago
                guy

                That's my face when moron trolls jealous of real artists spew their mental issues at me and I have to deal with it to fix cartoons for children.

                Larroca, to answer your question.

                Based.

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      Hey Butch. Cured anyone of autism yet?

  2. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    That actually looks nice.

  3. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    Westerners should never draw anime stylized characters. It never works.

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      The Boondocks.

      • 1 week ago
        Anonymous

        I prefer the look of the comic. It's got that early 2000s Deviant art weeb look.

      • 1 week ago
        Anonymous

        Was animated in South Korea. I don't agree with the other anon, though.

        • 1 week ago
          Anonymous

          it's still anime stylized; doesn't matter where the fuck it was made.

          • 1 week ago
            Anonymous

            By that logic, anime isn’t Japanese.

            >Westerners should never draw anime stylized characters
            >South Korea
            >Westerners

        • 1 week ago
          Anonymous

          By that logic, anime isn’t Japanese.

        • 1 week ago
          Anonymous

          >Was animated in South Korea
          outsourced animators don't do the character designs retard

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      USonians you mean. I've seen chileans, argies and people from distant corners of Europe pull it off. But a yank? Never.

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      So I'd take that you've never seen Avatar: TLA or The Boondocks in your life. Am I correct, anon?

  4. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    It's okay, but he needed to fix that eye on the right.

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      It looks awkward because it reveals the differences in how the two artists do things. The nip artist shows where the eyes are looking through the shape of the eye folds whereas Butch does the more cartoony holdover of physically moving the pupils, which doesn't look good in non-cartoony contexts. Butch was 100% "symbol drawing" what he imagines an "anime style eye" to be and then adjusting its pupil.

  5. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    Butch is a retard but this "controversy" was so fucking dumb

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      He redrew someone's art. He should be called out for it.

      • 1 week ago
        Anonymous

        Correction, someone directly commissioned him and he redrew someone else's art to fulfill it. Which is worse than if he just redrew it of his own volition.

  6. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    How do you get a job in animation without being able to draw.

  7. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    Looks like she has downies on the right, but people will defend it cause Butch is le based!

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      You are so fucking retarded it hurts

  8. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    It's me

  9. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    I never liked the hartman shows, sure, they have hot females like maddie, but just that. the humor is shit and development as well. and he, not telling to his fans that he would use the money for religious cartoons is a bad move, Im a believer but I would not play that dirty, specially because I know not all the people is into that or probably they are part of different religions. it would be the same as asking people for doing atheist propaganda

    HOWEVER. the whole trace drama is retarded. I think people is saying he trace only because they expected he drawing like stephen silver, the actual designer of his shows

    >but they have the same poses as the original pictures
    that's eyeballing and that's ok. they would look less shitty if he was actually tracing

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      >I think people is saying he trace only because they expected he drawing like stephen silver, the actual designer of his shows
      This Hartman always had a Jack Kirby inspired art style has seen in his current stuff.

      • 1 week ago
        guy

        > the Butch Hartman haters are back
        Still so bad at looking at artwork they can't tell it's not traced, they never learn

        Cool piece

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      Copydrawing without permission of the original artist and without crediting them is just as bad as tracing.
      t. actual professional artist. Commissioners have tried to get me to simply copydraw and replace the character numerous times and any actual decent artist will refuse.

      • 1 week ago
        Anonymous

        >Copydrawing
        What a retarded phrase, it truly shows how little you understand what you're talking about.

        • 1 week ago
          Anonymous

          Post your artist socials or have a nice day. Unless you're actually working in this industry to some degree your opinion is less than worthless.

          also artist here. to me, the customer is the one who should ask permission for that, not me. Im too busy for that shit. in the end, he is the one using his money and he should be the one responding for it. even then I dont like draw actual copies of pictures, I always try to change something, if the customer doest like, he can eat shit

          I've straight up refunded some cunt who kept trying to make me 1 to 1 copy a pose. Explicitly stated in the invoice and the application form that I wouldn't do it, and started raising a stink when I explained multiple times to him that I was not about to risk my livelihood being marked as one of those cunts.

          • 1 week ago
            Anonymous

            >Unless you're actually working in this industry to some degree your opinion is less than worthless.
            What an utterly retarded thing to say you don't need to be part of the industry to know art and two by that logic you had no right to start this conversation without posting your work.

          • 1 week ago
            Anonymous

            Post your socials

      • 1 week ago
        Anonymous

        also artist here. to me, the customer is the one who should ask permission for that, not me. Im too busy for that shit. in the end, he is the one using his money and he should be the one responding for it. even then I dont like draw actual copies of pictures, I always try to change something, if the customer doest like, he can eat shit

      • 1 week ago
        guy

        Post your artist socials or have a nice day. Unless you're actually working in this industry to some degree your opinion is less than worthless.

        [...]
        I've straight up refunded some cunt who kept trying to make me 1 to 1 copy a pose. Explicitly stated in the invoice and the application form that I wouldn't do it, and started raising a stink when I explained multiple times to him that I was not about to risk my livelihood being marked as one of those cunts.

        Ridiculous. You can't copyright a fucking pose, and anyone who complains should be simply ignored. On top of that it takes a lot of work to learn how to make a character express themselves like the actual series - actual crew members receive lengthy training to do it properly, which isn't going to take effect for one Commission

        Y'all are messed up in the head about artistic matters

        • 1 week ago
          Anonymous

          >people receive extensive training to learn how to draw
          >none of this training and no skill will be used to draw a picture

          Please, once again, post proof you have drawn a thing for money in your life, or anything at all.

          • 1 week ago
            Anonymous

            >Please, once again, post proof you have drawn a thing for money in your life, or anything at all.
            Not him but you first

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      >they would look less shitty if he was actually tracing
      Ouch.

  10. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    There is nothing wrong with using references

  11. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    Hartman gets way too much hate, literally for being an outspoken Christian.

    Its fucking insane. like he didn't sexually harass any one, he did a lot of work (even if I don't like it, loads of people did) and built connections and built a legacy.

    the people who hate him come off as insanely spiteful losers.

    He might be a total cunt IRL, idk, but jesus christ the people who hate him are fucking crazy.

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      >Be part of a misogynist hate group
      >Waaah I'm being oppressed

      • 1 week ago
        Anonymous

        Go back to watching Rick and Morty, cuck fetishist.

        • 1 week ago
          Anonymous

          Rick & Morty is just Futurama for people who think they're smart.

  12. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    Left:
    SOULLESS
    Right:
    Soulful

  13. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    OH NO, ARTISTS USE REFERENCES
    WHAT A SHOCK

  14. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    Don't care

    Love Mikasa

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      S1 Mikasa for sure

      • 1 week ago
        Anonymous

        S2 best Mikasa

  15. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    Batmite

  16. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    Butch Hartman is bad because he…. IS CHRISTIAN

    bravo incels

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      Aren't incels Christian?

      • 1 week ago
        Anonymous

        your question is so many levels of stupid that it's not even funny

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      Gonna have to give you the chad YES on this one, there, chief.

  17. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    I still get a laugh out of the TF2 heavy redesign he did

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      Looked this up out of curiosity and found this instead

      • 1 week ago
        Anonymous

        I'm more offended by the Sly Cooper one.

      • 1 week ago
        Anonymous

        I have this one, but I remember there's one with the actual heavy for side-by-side comparison, which makes it strike harder

  18. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    How long until he's gets a redemption arc

  19. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    Toriyama

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      You're just mad that Jiren mogs your verse

  20. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    $200 btw

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      You could literally pay a 14-year-old on Deviantart $10 and get something a magnitude better than this.

  21. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    I'm just curious: What makes someone a hack?

  22. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    Am I a hack now, OP?

  23. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    Larroca, to answer your question.

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous
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        Anonymous
        • 1 week ago
          Anonymous
        • 1 week ago
          Anonymous

          It almost looks like used a still from that invisible man film starting Chevy Chase and Sam Neil. The one that originated the "man being threatened by a PS3 game" meme.

  24. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    I am a hack and a retard.

  25. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    I'd ask when the atheists became the puritans, but you fucks have always been so easily offended

  26. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    probably john k

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