who is the boringest butthole of all the boring buttholes on Voyager and why is it Commander Chipotle?
who is the boringest asshole of all the boring assholes on Voyager and why is it Commander Chipotle?
who is the boringest butthole of all the boring buttholes on Voyager and why is it Commander Chipotle?
Heya-hoya, heya-hoya, the homosexual spirits are strong with OP
Why is moronic feather Indian superstition still alive in science utopia but all the other humans are secular?
Is there a single Christian in the Star Trek universe?
2nding this question, has any character (nit from the past) ever expressed any Christian belief?
There's a part in TOS where Kirk tells some aliens (or aliens posting as gods or whatever) that "We have just one God...and that's good enough for us!" or something like that.
You'd think they'd have a Catholic character somewhere - an exploration of how a highly religious Earthling rationalizes their faith in the face of the ST universe would be a legitimately interesting episode!
also that episode where the ex-federation guy turns everything into space rome and the enterprise crew undoes it all. and at the end they imply that planet is getting their own version of Jesus and ends with the undertone of everyone being in awe and going "hm yes, very based"
Did you not actually watch the episode? They had their Jesus two millennia prior, just like us
That was DEI white guilt seeping in. I just like to pretend Chipotle does it as a joke to wind up the crew
There's an episode where he meditates and somehow talks to his father about how Seska stole his dna to make the child. His father talks about how the Europeans raped his people, I laughed because of how out of place and obvious it was. Interesting how far back this shit actually goes, that was mid-90s.
>Seska stole his dna to make the child.
LMFAO he really says this? They were frickin. Its canon.
The whole plot is that seska has the kid againt his will. Turns out it's not actually his in the end.
This use of "DNA" always takes me out of the episode. It's so obvious they just didn't want to say "semen" or "sperm" and it comes off as childish, like they're going to start snickering if they say the real word.
He becomes less boring when you realise his entire gimmick of being le Native American was all made up by some con artist hired to be a consultant for the show. Everything he does talking about spirits and his tribe just becomes funny. I liked Voyager in terms of the idea. Starfleet sent somewhere, having to do a lot of shit to get home and all the values i.e, it's easy to be goodie two shoes when you're safe. I wish they had done more
>We got some new weapons/upgrades from X planet
They did some episodes like that but always had a reason why they couldn't use them. Then the time travel upgrades just felt cheap and the ending was just sucky.
In terms of boring characters, apart from the Doctor (who becomes more annoying later on with muh hologram rights) I don't really like any of the characters a lot. They're OK. I think Tuvok is played well for a Vulcan. But everybody is just kinda yeah whatever.
Don't forget the fact that his actor actively hated his character and his role in the show and kept trying to get fired by asking for more and more money and romance plots with Seven of Nine, but the producers inexplicably considered Chakotay so integral that they just agreed to everything he asked for
>Demands more money and a romance plot with the new bombshell blonde who is fricking the producer cuz you don't give a frick if you get fired or not.
Okay if this is true Robert Beltran is now my hero and is based as frick.
I laugh in the first couple of seasons whenever Chaks starts on some of his Injun shit, a pan flute plays
captain's b***h boy
best character was 7 of 9
his romantic failures are on point though
Quark is the best character of all Star Trek period.
>I literally read this off my Google feed so now I'm posting it here
Kys
what the frick are you on about schizo? take your meds.
Yeah both of these facts make Chakotay fricking based now that we know them
lel, I just found out he's Mexican by descent too, and he was a Shakespearean actor before he got roped into Voyager, hope he got lots of money for that tripe.
>Shakespearean actor
His only notable role outside of VOY is as Chuck Norris's sidekick in a Chuck Norris film I can't even remember the name of. Lone Wolf McQuade. A terrible film, but it has a funny midge in it.
Aren’t most Trek actors classically trained? You can tell by their line delivery they’re used to the stage. I personally love that about the older shows.
Many are, but not all -- Wil Wheaton wouldn't be for example. There is Law and Order too, that have a tradition of using local theatre actors.
Yeah, Wheaton was a nervous wreck during S1. It was his first acting gig and he was surrounded by costars who could rattle off Shakespeare like nothing. That’s why I don’t judge his acting too harshly.
As much as I hated the character I never hated the child actor, he did grow up to be a dick though, and he still couldn't act, I've seen him in Tales From The Crypt and Criminal Minds.
Me too. Most pre-2010s shows had classically trained actors who delivered their lines with such... grandiosity.
Now it's
>um, like, um, totally, like, um, fricked up, like um, shit, um, like, um
and if they're required to do some actual heavy lifting, pffft, forget about it
I'm a classically trained actor. We know how to do shit. Like sing and dance. And other raw hardcore shit.
Do you know how to accept shitty pay, shitty working conditions, shitty scripts, and creepy producers?
Yep. I never even read a script tbh. Mostly I just rawdog it with my homies. Hardcore raw shit.
We be all shakespeare and shit
I loved the one where Steward purposefully hammed it up to get the horny Ferengi to give up on pursuing Lwaxana. Good shit
I had such a huge crush on Lwaxana, her daughter was boring, beige.
Stewart is one of those actors who can do comedy and drama equally well. I think the first time I ever saw him was an SNL rerun on Comedy Central. And of course his unforgettable voice work on The Simpsons and American Dad.
dubs of truth. I love how he starts off all awkward and stammery then is just like "frick it, these ear-israelites dont know shakespere, do they?"
>He becomes less boring when you realise his entire gimmick of being le Native American was all made up by some con artist hired to be a consultant for the show. Everything he does talking about spirits and his tribe just becomes funny.
This mirrors real life, because modern indians don't have any "authentic" beliefs. They think their gods invented horses 10,000 years ago even though they didn't have them until the Spanish brought them over in the 16th century.
Someone post that webm about "You came out of the Minnesota woodlands armed to the teeth."
Unfortunately they got genocided, pushed to the side, and their societies are rampant with corruption, drug abuse, and poverty. As such, a lot of shit wasn't written down well, they didn't develop into a modern society to translate their mythology into anything or build upon them, and too few people know what was written down. So you end up with a lot of nonsense and people just making shit up.
>Unfortunately they got genocided, pushed to the side, and their societies are rampant with corruption, drug abuse, and poverty. As such, a lot of shit wasn't written down well, they didn't develop into a modern society to translate their mythology into anything or build upon them, and too few people know what was written down. So you end up with a lot of nonsense and people just making shit up.
That's why there's nothing wrong with the idea that in the 24th century a guy might think he has ancient cultural beliefs that are total bullshit stories made up out of nothing in the past 200 years.
Oral histories are like that though. Life changes and people make shit up to fill the gaps.
I can't remember which tribe it was, but they changed their creation myth to include the horse after it came to the Americas.
It is funny, but maybe his people are like modern day pagans: LARPing buttholes grasping at straws trying to EmBrAcE tRaDiTiOn.
I don't get the hate for Chakotay
I thought he was pretty integral to the voyager crew and it kinda suprised me when he's actually mexican
Reminds me of this dude who can pass playing anyone
>apart from the Doctor
You go to hell, Robert Picardo is a treasure.
Robert Picardo guest starred in awesome episodes, Tales from the Crypt and Supernatural -- he was also in the second Gremlins movie.
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0117021/
Also this piece of shit
To save others the click...
>Menno's Mind (1997) Menno is a computer programmer at The Resort, an enormous funhouse where people can live out their fantasies in virtual reality. Feeding their personal data into a software program called The System, head of security Felix Medina is setting up a big voting fraud, in order to win the presidential elections. His only concern is a group of terrorists, rebelling against his plans. As an ex-colleague of their leader, Menno is forced to help them.
Did you know the guy who played Quark in DS9 was also Buffy's Principal Synder, and that he wrote a science fiction where his self-insert was a Renaissance man that the aliens saved from an execution, kept frozen, and the brought him back in time to save future earth? The Merchant Prince by Armin Shimerman -- I actually used to have a copy of the first novel, the cover feature a version of him with more hair, lel, but it was actually an interesting read.
I liked him as a character. He had a dignified, quiet intensity. His episodes weren't great though
ENTER
>timeless
he's good in my book just for that episode. he also had based taste in women.
ACK!
>okay clone harry, you are going to take the role of the original harry and we will all act as if your not a soulles clone.
Do you think they told the parents? Or maybe just covered it, possibly didn't even mention it in the log?
I think they left that part out for the sanity of the parents.
>Here's your son back, all original parts and everything.
What an odd thing to say.
it's starfleet, they should be happy somebody came home at all.
I have to say, Voyager is at least enjoyable in a so bad it's good kinda way. TNG was just preachy and no fun.
You act like every time someone transports the original isn’t vaporized
That was a freak accident.
All transporters shit are freak accidents and incompetence by miles.
I love Star Trek but it’s shit dude. McCoy knew the score
Pulaski felt the same.
>our highly trained, cream of the crop doctors know that the transporter is literally killing people and generating simulacra
>ignore them completely
I assume the bridge crew is fully vaccinated. The medical staff … ehhhh
There's a few times the experts told them something just to be disregarded later. Happens a lot in starfleet.
>the transporters are 100% safe and effective
>SAFE AND EFFECTIVE!
Could tuvix get voyager back home quicker?
I'm convinced they killed him solely because he was malformed.
I doubt it. Neelix was kinda moronic and Tuvok was smart so I’d imagine the hybrid to be intermediate between the two. And ugly af
>And ugly af
Whatever you do, don't search for tuvix porn.
Nah,too busy with 7 of 9.
The trips of truth.
savage
Tulix:
“Captain, we have found new life and new civilization”
“Quick, turn the transporter into a cuisinart, so we can kill it
Kim is the only character who's not only boring in the show but his whole concept is boring as well.
Chakotay as a Maquis leader could've been interesting if they had done anything with it
Paris as an ex-con could've been interesting
B'Elanna has the whole internal conflict of being both human and Klingon going on
7 of 9 is a fricking ex-Borg but all they did with it was making her say "Perfection" a lot and introduce dumb Borg kids
Nah, Kim could have had an interesting arc. He's fresh out of Starfleet Academy, wide eyed and naive, and on his first ever assignment he gets stranded 70,000 light years away from home. He could have developed into any type of character the writers wanted given those conditions
How did he wind up on bridge crew as a new graduate?
Even the flagship had an ensign at the backup conn position, and not even a real ensign, a bullshit acting ensign. Picard just wanted to frick Beverly
He was top of his class.
Same way cadets and ensigns on Tos, Tng, Ds9 and Ent did
Voyragers are so dumb
I think of it like an exclusive internship awarded to the top graduates of starfleet.
And if that graduate’s mom is hot? Even better
Picard was a low test homosexual for not repeatedly filling that dry cavern with his wiener.
Never forget that Jean-Luc surrendered on the first day.
They really wanted to drive home he was French.
Stupid network censors policing what you can and can’t say during that timeslot. Yet they said the word ‘rape’ several dozen times just on TNG.
Picard is low t but I wouldn't say he's a homosexual because he's too boring to have gay sex.
Butt Monkey Kim...also the Kim Voyager took from his parents and the one they returned is a different one, original Kim died and they just replaced him with an alternative universe version and then never talked about it again.
he's only really good when he's the voice of reason when janeway is flying off the handle. his episodes are too ass. i think belanna torres is boring too since klingons are overused by the time of voyager.
>That episode where Janeway is temporarily unconscious while trying to negotiate with the Borg and Chakotay immediately disobeys her order and tells the Borg to frick off
One of his best moments, and he was completely right. Janeway's idea only worked because the writers needed it to, trying to negotiate and help the Borg would get any other ship destroyed
Damn I didn't even remember this guy and I watched voyager all the way through.
The entirety of Voyager was boring. I never saw more than the first few minutes of each episode because I would literally fall asleep between the ending of the opening credits and the first commercial break. I still use Voyager as an anti-insomnia aide.
it is pretty comfy
got tired of DS9's "ohhh gritty space station" and a return to nice federation ship aesthetics is pure soul
The entire cast is kind of boring. While all the pre-NuTrek shows have their merits, each show that comes after the last one has a less memorable cast. YES I know DS9 is great and Sisko is cool but nobody really talks about Dax or Quark the same way they talk about Data or McCoy.
Quark is like top 3 characters in DS9 man. And both dax's were at least hot
Quark is one of the better DS9 characters, I'll give you that.
Only because a bunch of chuds use him to convince themselves the show is some secret right wing masterpiece.
>Only because a bunch of chuds use him to convince themselves the show is some secret right wing masterpiece
Only a leftist zoomtard would think this way. You sound like the type of smooth brain who has the wrong “hot take” about everything.
>ring wing masterpiece
Dukat is fun because Cardassians are cartoonishly meticulous about being buttholes.
Dukat gets talked about more than any TOS character except maybe Spock
Quark, odo, and garak are very memorable. DS9 probably has the most "side" characters who are interesting.
I wouldn't consider Odo or Quark side characters. Especially Odo. Both of them had pretty key roles in almost every episode. There were probably more Quark centric episodes than all other characters except for Sisko, Worf, Odo. and maybe Kira.
I'd consider DS9 side characters to be guys like Garak, Rom, Zeke, Damar, Martok, Brunt, etc. All of them are great.
How you sleepin on my homie Morn like that
How can you even watch Morn episodes? He talks so much.
> It's another Bashir getting cucked episode.
I'm asleep just thinking about it.
>YES I know DS9 is great and Sisko is cool
> It's another Jake and Sisko episode.
There he is.
People still talk about Tuvix, Insaneway, 7 of 9, Doctor, like 30 years later. Archer's Enterprise is when ST went kinda unmemorable though now it seems a masterclass in filmography considering nuTrek
I've seen Enterprise like 3 times now and still don't remember it. Even met some of the actors too lmao.
Enterprise was basically just a 20th century military show with a Star Trek veneer. Even down to the look of the ship and the uniforms
It was the least military show of all the Star Treks.
Archer treated the command of the flagship of humanity like a camping trip.
Still more military than nuTrek, which features mousey female characters with undercuts making inappropriate quips about patriarchy, sex, and other bullshit, and doing TikTok dances on the bridge.
That's just a reflection of the modern US military.
Honestly I’ve always wondered if ENT was actual wartime propaganda. It wouldn’t even make me like the show any less.
I was in high school when it aired and lots of stuff about it mirrored the kind of recruitment strategies the military was putting out there at the time to get kids into the Middle East. Not to mention Trip speaking exactly like an idealized version of Dubya.
>trip
Not by his choice, he asked what accent and when he found out what accent he was supposed to have he said something like
>well you want a Georgia accent, but from episode 1 I was doing Florida accent
Everybody in production said frick it, your from Florida now.
Nobody talks about Dax because Dax is by FAR the worst part of DS9
All the other characters in DS9 are decent at the very least.
We got Miles O'Brien for fricks sake. And Jihad-Waifu Kira.
It would be interesting to see Sisko and Tuvok fight to the death in Quark's about who is the best space Black person. Who do you think would win
Sisko canonically got his ass kicked by a Vulcan back at the academy because Vulcans have 3x the strength of humans. Also, as a security officer, Tuvok probably has more extensive training in hand to hand combat
Yep he also did Vulcan archery for like 3 years
Maybe he should play an elf in Ring of Powers then.
I know everyone has hobbies but why would a Vulcan of all people know how to use a Bat'leth.
Tuvok is probably old enough to have been a member of Starfleet when they were still at war with the Klingons, it makes sense he'd be familiar with their weapons
>Tuvok is probably old enough to have been a member of Starfleet when they were still at war with the Klingons
He was. He served under Captain Gay Asian Democrat on the USS Excelsior in the 23rd century.
Also why did he say "Mr Neelix, I prefer not to hear the life story of my breakfast".. thought that was quite rude to Neelix and morale probably went down
Well anon, would you like to go to a steakhouse and have the waiter describe the life story of the cow you're eating in explicit detail?
Well after he said that, the power conduit fluctuations ruined Tuvok's breakfast. So I guess it evened out
Yes, yes I would. I appreciate Neelix's zeal.
Didn't he study violence or whatever?
Yeah.
>SUDER: Knowing violence as I've known it.
>TUVOK: I have studied violence for over a hundred years.
>SUDER: Studying it and knowing it are two different things, aren't they. It's attractive, isn't it.
>TUVOK: Attractive?
>SUDER: Violence.
>TUVOK: On the contrary. I find it disturbing.
As chief of security it was only logical for him to have studied violence, different fighting styles from different cultures, to know what to expect.
I think that episode revealed that Tuvok had an innate penchant for violence and it took his Vulcan restraint to keep it in check. Another good argument against Tuvix
I like the other one where Tuvok reveals his innate penchant for violence, with the planet where the telepaths treat violent thoughts like drugs.
That was another good one. S4E10, Random Thoughts, or so says skynet
Great one, one of my most nostalgic episodes.
No one talks about Quark because there’s nothing left to say. The man held true to his ethics in every single scene. He’s the reason why the Rules of Acquisition will be quoted for years to come.
No one will ever quote or make reference to Nu-Trek, ever.
Moogie?
Sisko, Odo, Quark, Garak and Dukat are all great memorable characters for me. Kira, Bashir and Winn are good characters too.
I think with DS9 the cast was rich and distinct from previous trek, and Voyager was just kind of like TNG-lite and that made the DS9 cast more memorable than the voyager one
>Commander Chipotle
has anyone deciphered these
At least we know he got tortured for quite some time, so look at the positives.
Awe poor chakotay. What was his first name again?
a israelite larping as an injun was the character consultant for Chakotay.
DEI representative. They literally put a normal American man on there because he was Indian
Ahem, NATIVE
Actually, "Indian" is the preferred terminology.
He wasn't a teepee peace pipe smoking north american Indian, he was Mexican and from a tribe descended from the Olmec rubber people or something. I don't remember the specifics.
Did Chakotay grow up on Earth even? I'm pretty sure his actual planet was like a Maquis Cardassian border dispute colony, like the one seen in that TNG episode with the Indians and shit.
No, he was a colonist on one of those disputed planets, with an ethnic "tribe" larping as central American natives.
Yeah it was kinda weird. Janeway would often start talking about how great Earth is and Chakotay would just shut up and start smiling because he wasn't really from there, even though his mystical tribe shit was all Earth based shit like the sky spirits visiting Earth.
The concept of the character and the actor was fine. It was the writers that fricked up.
That dude is the sole reason I never bothered with Voyager. His face and stupid tattoo made me nope out before Janeway even had the chance to break a prime directive.
this is just second in commands in trek. riker is also boring as frick and he's actually dumb as a brick too, because he's often the audience stand-in.
Yeah, notice how the first officer is almost always an outsider of some kind. Spcok is a Vulcan on a 99% human ship, Kira is a Bajoran and former terrorist serving with Starfleet, Chakotay is a former Maquis terrorist, Saru is a weird alien man and Una is a member of a genetically enhanced species trying to hide that fact from Starfleet. In the whole of Trek, Riker and Trip are the only first officers that are 'insiders'
T'Misc is effectively second in command to Archer, though. She takes over when he is injured very early on in the series.
Does ENT even have a first officer? I thought Reed had the title of first officer, but T’Misc always assumes command, and Trip outranks Reed.
Trip is the second highest ranking Starfleet officer on the ship after Archer. My headcanon as to why T'Misc seems to serve as the FO is
>Trip is most valuable in Engineering, so he stays there instead of being on the Bridge
>T'Misc is the most experienced officer on the ship, as she's much older than any of the other members of the crew and has served on Vulcan ships throughout her career.
So Archer trusts her with command and let's Trip do his job in engineering
Kira the space Karen was as shit as chipotle
i reckon janeway would be willing to do some absolute cracker mummy son roleplay in the sack.
Bruh 1/10
Akoocheemoya. You are far from the bones of your ancestors. He's one of the best characters imo
I think he was underutilized and underdeveloped, and basically became a joke with the hokey generic indigenous stuff. S4E4 "Nemesis" was his best episode, and probably one of the better VOY episodes in general IMO.
I legit can't remember a single episode about him. I think one episode him and seven get stranded on a primitive planet. But I can't remember any just about him.
There was the tattoo episode in season 2. He found the sign of the ancient rubber people (sky spirits). He also had that episode with Janeway on New Earth when they were infected by something so Voyager left them behind. That episode also had a monkey.
>But I can't remember any just about him.
Not even the vision quests?
>I think one episode him and seven get stranded on a primitive planet.
That was Janeway and they get turned into giant newts.
He pretty much was flanderized to being "vision quest guy". Early in the show he had a lot of potential as being the Maquis leader on the ship that could butt heads with Janeway, and the whole side arc of him knocking up that Cardassian woman. He ended up just being a brown Riker stand-in.
He also knocked up Janeway a few times
>That was Janeway and they get turned into giant newts.
nah, that was when Paris kidnaps Janeway
>Kills cadets in Starfleet Academy
>Joins a terrorist cell
>Rapes the captain
>Quotes crime statistics
>Gets away with it all
How did he do it?
Paris didn't kill cadets at the academy, you're thinking of Locarno. Paris graduated the academy and his accident involved getting officers killed. Same actor and similar backstories makes it confusing
I know they're supposed to be different characters for legal reasons, but I always just ignored differences and treated them as the same character since they wanted to use Locarno.
Your head canon must be really boring. Paris bring Locarno Is just the tip of the iceberg for me.
*Being
What else is in your head canon?
Trelane being a Q.
they were supposed to be the same character but then they'd owe money to the guy who wrote the Locarno episode $$$ so they just renamed him and made a new backstory but kept the actor and character the same
Wake up anon
breasts do not make a character. Also Jeri Ryan has the acting range of an empty pizza box.
I am now going to jerk off to 7 of 9.
How come
Big
>acting range of an empty pizza box.
What size pizza?
homosexual
It was akoochemoya hazard
What were they tasting?
Chokotay's hoochie-oyah
neelix's butthole
his faeces is very similar to guacamole
If I was a cast member on Voyager, I would make sure they would write constant episodes like this for my character with 7 of 9. I'm bringing donuts to the writer's room every day. I'm insisting that I don't take a pay raise to pay the writers more. I'm bringing in pizza whenever they have a long day. I'd tell them I love their scripts, even the lizard babies episode.
Remember in the first few episodes of season 1 where Mulgrew pronounces his name as Shakotay?
I think you meant discount-Kirk, I meant Paris.
> It's a Chakotay b***hslaps a crew member for looking at him wrong episode.
> It's a Chakotay hunts down and confronts a creepy alien dream rapist episode.
Why am I meant to hate him again? Oh right, because of that one Deep Slop Nine fanboi simping for Ben "Facial Paralysis Black" Sisko with his daily five post threads. There's a reason Voyager is among the three good Treks.
VOY is the worst trek outside of nuTrek. Everyone thinks this except for you, because you're dumb.
>t. Deep Slop Nine fanboi simp
> I am everybody.
I think you will find that is not an accurate assessment.
Threshold is better than several DSN episodes such as
>Profit and Lace
>The Reckoning
>The Muse
>Let He Who Is Without Sin
>Prodigal Daughter
>Meridian
>Time’s Orphan
At least Threshold at least attempted to be science-fiction.
>who is the boringest butthole of all the boring buttholes on Voyager and why is it Commander Chipotle?
CherokeeonDicks was a c**t with a moron face tattoo.
But the biggest c**t of all was Crapscum Insanegrey, the old roastie moron was so smug, so stupid, so boring, so obnoxious.
I think the better POLL is to aim at the question, which Voyager crew member did you hate the most? And have a ranking option.
HATED MOST
Janeway
Neelix
Tuvok
Doctor
Chakotay
The forgettable Baj-moron prostitute girl.
Seven of Boring
The fast aging Pixy Lesbian
Harry Kim
Ranked in the order of what I barely remember the whole c**tshow cast was. Let's talk about intensity of hate. Janeway, I'd bash her head in with a shovel until it was a wet stain and feel zero guilt. Neelix, I'd throw dog poop at. Tuvok, I'd throw paint at. The Doctor, I'd fart in an elevator to watch him squirm.
Decades later and I still INTENSELY hate Janeway, after not seeing a Voyager episode since 2005. God I hate that c**t.
So you like Tom Paris and B'Elanna Torres?
>So you like Tom Paris and B'Elanna Torres?
Totally forgot Tom Paris existed.
B'Elanna Torres is listed as "The forgettable Baj-moron prostitute girl".
Blech Terrible should've been her screen name.
I guess I should've listed it as HATED MOST to simply HATED.
So you like Seska and the Kazon?
>So you like Seska and the Kazon?
To tell you the truth, most of the Voyager series was horrible crap.
I gave up on trying to watch it after Janeway and I think it was Chakotay got turned into lizards with the troonywarp Drive. I would occasionally watch an episode to verify to see if the show became less crap. It never became less crap.
I'd rank Voyager to be generally worse than Star Trek Discovery, and I've only watched a 3 minute clip where "Michael" Burnout was awoken by a BLACK ALERT and I laughed because it was too late, the ship was already infested with worthless morons. Beyond that, I've only seen cynical reviews of Star Trek Discovery and that was as close as I ever wanted to get near that shit show.
Oh wait, there was the parody scene by Redletter Media of them mocking the baby babble moronation of the Discovery bridge crew and the mega cringe dialog. I watched a clip verifying that the genuine scene was even stupider than the parody.
Star Trek Discovery Season 2 In a Nutshell
And Voyager for, dear God, I think it was 7 years?!? Was worse shit cringe than Star Trek Discovery.
Try watching it while thinking about Neelix. Think about his thoughts and feelings and how the journey is really about him
>Try watching it while thinking about Neelix. Think about his thoughts and feelings and how the journey is really about him
Not everyone is into SHRIMP-MAXXING.
Such crustacean • Many feelers • So Chitin
bullshit, nothing is worse than discovery. There's nothing redeemable about that show even aesthetically.
>B’elanna
As if Klingons have zoomigger baby names
> It's another Worf gets humiliated by a roastie episode.
Good one, cuckboi.
>with a moron face tattoo
Why the frick would they give him a tattoo like that anyway, he's not Māori
Ever heard of cartel tattoos? That was the inspiration
Also stretches out across skull
I thought that was some A.I bullshit
The OP image is, but he does have a dumb fricking nonsense tattoo on his face in the series.
That tattoo is quite popular though
That's clearly drawn on with eyeliner or something. And I'm sure it is, people are dumb.
It's happening
Janeway was far too easy to hate. Every one else was too boring to invoke any level of emotional response. All the enjoyment went to the Doctor and all the shit fell on Janeway.
At least Paris and Not-K’Ehleyr had SOME chemistry… not much, but some.
Is it
T. Pole
Or
T’Paul
T/pol/
Is it reverse trolling Voy haters by acting like a moron? Star Trek: Inception
>jake shoots ghost lasers episode
>quark goes troony episode
>bashir becomes data 2.0 arc
>odo goons in his room saga
>flanderized dukat humiliation ritual
>sisko abandons his kid ending
Deeply Tasteless Nine
>starts talking about nutrek
lel every time
the agenda is too obvious
Emergency Command Hologram, at your service.
>I love this part!
Let’s fly!
I kind of like Chakote, while being poorly written he was still an interesting counter balance to Janeway. Harry Kim HOWEVER was a tad boring, even more than Tuvok.
That would be Tom Paris.
Guy brings absolutely nothing to the table.
Tuvok's nice because a Vulkan being the best friend of a captain, with his pure moral compass and logic, lets the captain character shine through better. Same with Spock and Kirk.
The only issue is that Tuvok has a comically huge gorilla-like nose and it's laughable every time he's on screen.
Also no Vulkan-buddy for a captain in DS9 was one of it's many failures. But that show isn't even Trek, just some weird gritty fan-fiction.
Tuvok is just Spock with no personality or good writing.
Yeah, well, the original trio was so good Trek as a franchise exists thanks to them. Most of VOY's characters are way worse than Tuvok. Pretty much every non-Janeway episode is a snoozefest.
>Pretty much every non-Janeway episode is a snoozefest.
Janeway episodes are the absolute worst.
I can't even sit through that awful holodeck village shit.
Spirit Folk, those village episodes are comfy. Also Barclay's episode was great, I'd love to sleep in the holodeck on Voyager.
I love 7 of 9's plots and backstory
What made Spock interesting was the conflict between his human emotions and dedication to Vulcan autism.
Any pure blooded Vulcan is automatically going to be less interesting.
Vulcans have emotions too, they're just better predisposed to repressing them.
They also have weird psychic powers that, under the right circumstances, can project those intensely repressed emotions onto other. I’m a little jelly
Compared to betazoid though.. Why was Suder so different to Troi. Troi is always like "I feel something bad" but Suder never says anything
Because suder was a based Chad and troi was a pickmeesha
Troi was only hapa betazoid and Suter was a straight up psycho. For me it was always Tam
Because Troi is a useless idiot
That really wasn't the case in TOS. Vulcans were described as simply not having emotions because they abandoned them thousands of years before. The idea was that Spock had to make a real effort to "suppress" them because he was half-human. The general Star Trek trope of Vulcans using great effort to suppress their emotions, and sometimes failing to do so for the plot, didn't start until TNG.
Vulcan telepathy was always a messy thing that was inconsistent through out the entire series. All of it is kind of stupid IMO. In TOS, a Vulcan mind meld isn't a big deal. Spock does it all the time. Other episodes, like when Picard mind melded with Sarek, it was implied that it alters both participants' personalities permanently. In VOY, temporarily. In ENT, a Vulcan mind meld was a quasi-sexual act.
How do those Vulcan abilities compare to Chakotay's abilities (animal guide summoning etc)?
When did he ever actually summon a spirit animal? I think his spirit bag just had some peyote in it or something
He said he did it with Banana who tried to kill her one, also he did it with Janeway and we saw it was like a lizard
I’d forgotten about that. What a shitty spirit guide
He said he consults with his animal guide often in season 1. But then I think it's never mentioned again.
Yeah, because after season 1 he ran out of weed and mescaline and there wasn't a way to re-up in the Delta Quadrant.
Couldn't he have just replicated some more?
I'd think there'd be restrictions on psychoactive compounds. The replicators in TNG would only replicate synthehol which didn't even get you drunk.
Nah, you can ask the replicators to make you real alcohol. Fed pussies just prefer synthehol and that's what the replicators makes as default.
Yeah I’m sticking with my peyote theory
It's not peyote, but some weird device that simulates a psychedelic experience. Who knows how often Chipolte is taking hits off this thing tripping balls in his quarters.
I don’t believe you. In my headcannon it’ll always be him spiking other people’s drinks
He guided Neelix on a spirit quest to find his spirit animal. Turned out, his spirit animal was his dead sister and wanted Neelix to teleport himself into space lol
Vulcan lady in enterprise came around and started adopting human traits (basically being less autistic on things).
To be fair the only interesting episodes were when Tuvok gets to not be Vulcan
>gets brain damage after zapped by invisible aliens and turns into a kid who just wants to have fun with Neelix
>mind meld with Chucky turning Tuvok evil
Yeah, but part of being Captain is being able to inspire and rally the crew, even against seemingly unbeatable odds -- Vulcans are good at that.
>captain, we only have a 12% probability of success
>damn your logic, full speed ahead!
Voyager is a case of having all the ingredients to make a 5 star meal and then throwing them into a toilet full of diarrhea.
>Now look here, mister!
>Voyager was a damn fine show, I tell ya. Damn fine!
Reminder that if you shitpost Voyager that you’ll find yourself in the company of the AI slop nutrek spammer. Welcome to the Pakled side, padawan.
I just paused season 2 ep 26. Im pissed off. Fricking bunch of naive leftwing morons. Boarded by the kazon that are so dumb, a nasty cardassian prostitute leads them around.
All the writers need their asses kicked.
I want Seska to spit in my mouth
That's great, anon. Really raising the level of discussion with that one.
I rather enjoyed his insight. Truly wonderful the mind of a coomer is.
She belongs to the maje
why?
Michael Eddington. Husband. Hero. Buck breaker.
>Michael Eddington
Most based man in Star trekt
The evil/malevolent Chakotay clones/hologram characters were the best, because it showed a Maquis commander willing to stand his ground and it was great. He was the best character in those scenes.
Why didn't the new shows chatch on?
what's your guess?
Voyager is a celebration of White Competence
Mayweather had several traits. One being affability.
My beard is not an affectation!
>hints at Chakotay x Janeway through the entire series
>Seven x Harry Kim too
>suddenly pair Chakotay with Seven of Nine in the finale
>have those two ever spoke to each other before?
See
Chakotay was the best Trek character since Spock. Fight me bros. Akoocheemoya.
Thread reeks of VF pretending to be multiple people
>VF
VF?
He doesn't like voyager so naturally everyone who DOES like it is actually just one person samegayging.
That other anon must have been right about you being VF if you’re resorting to such blatant reversal deflection
Well done
If Chipotle was an butthole, he’d be significantly less boring than he was.
Harry Wong and Tuvok were much more boring than Chipotle. The only time Tuvok was interesting was when the ship executed Tweelix because of their collective inability to accept “new life”
What's the best voyager novels? I saw some really old ones written when it was still airing, looks pretty interesting
I highly recommend:
Judgement Day by Kaleidolon, published 2003 to 2009
Q's side lost the Civil War in the Continuum. The winners promptly condemned all of humanity to live in Earth's solar system, quarantined away from the rest of the galaxy. Instability sweeps over the Alpha Quadrant as the Federation loses its backbone species, and chaos and violence reigns on Earth as humanity struggles to survive massive overpopulation. On Earth, two groups of humans and a single Q survivor of the losing side each devise strategies to break the blockade of Earth, while out in the galaxy, disgruntled Powers, Federation citizens, the only other Q survivor, and a lone human hero all work in their own ways to get revenge on the Continuum or to save humanity.
https://archiveofourown.org/series/714
>humanity is so important a race of gods gives a shit
So in the 24th century we’re still wildly up our own collective ass, huh?
It's Star Trek canon that Humans Are Special though.
So you’re saying the federation is speciesist? That’s a bold assertion
The headquarters of the Federation is on Earth (in USA I think), and Federation beat Klingon, Cardassia, and Romulan, held the borg at bay. Oh, all Federation ships are capable of being war ships, they build everything to be extra durable, with backups, etc. It'll be like if all the transport trucks were all secretly tanks underneath.
It’s just most practical to have the cast be majority human/humanoid. Doctor Who follows similar logic.
>Doctor, is it true you can visit any planet at any time in history
>Yes!
>So why do you spend so much time in 20th and 21st century London?
>I just really like humans from that time period!
>Doctor Who
Nobody likes doctor homosexual
The Judgement Day series is really really good, because unlike how it played in canon, a war or even potential war between god-like aliens is no joke at all:
Dead Letter:
>But if you haven't checked in with Kathy you don't know what I'm talking about. Sorry. There's a war on. The Continuum is burning. Q has turned on Q and you cannot begin to imagine the psychic devastation, the utter violence of the soul, not to mention the repercussions to the rest of the galaxy, when immortal, omnipotent beings figure out a way to kill each other and then start doing it. Those supernovas? Sorry about that. You ever see that movie where they say every time a bell rings, an angel gets his wings? Well, every time you've been seeing a spontaneous supernova the past few years, a Q has been blown to bits. The universe is our battleground and I'm afraid the collateral damage is all over the place. We've littered your dimension with our gravestones.
>And it's about to get worse.
https://archiveofourown.org/works/14172
I realise another thing I love about the Judgement Day series is that even though Picard is the human captain that Q has the most dealing with, the one he trust to fix the mess is Captain James T Kirk!
Is there a story that continues Janeway's holonovel?
I don't even remember her holonovel, most the B movie holoprograms: https://archiveofourown.org/works/search?work_search%5Bquery%5D=Janeway%27s+holonovel
You can tell it’s xim because he keeps saying boring
okay vee
I want to motorboat Tasha’s sister
>Data, have I told you about my childhood on my home planet, avoiding rape gangs?
Like, was Tarsha Yar from Planet India?
She was from Turkana, a failed Federation colony. Originally the colony was supposed to have been formed after the devastation of WW3 but I don't believe that's canon. Some "cadres" (gangs) formed on the planet.. Isha and Tasha were from the Coalition who were against another cadre called the Alliance. There were other cadres as well but after the government called in the Coalition and Alliance, those two became the biggest and even overthrew the government itself. The last we hear about them is Isha saying to Data that it's the first time she made a friend or some shit. She probably helped change the cadres politically in my head canon
It just seem so weird that the utopic Federation would have a gang rape planet, this isn't Firefly.
Roddenberry was a strange man
I feel they were originally going to elaborate more on that but Tasha left so they mostly abandoned her storyline. They were cooking something in season one with all the references to her past.
I think season one is just whack because they had a planet africa episode!
Janeway and Paris actually had children they left behind on that planet.
I always think she's Linda Hamilton whenever I watch this episode
Yes, it's like T'pol being Angelina Jolie
I didn't hate him. I legitimately thought he was better than Riker in every way possible. The only thing I didn't like was the stupid 7 of 9 shit.
>Commander Chipotle
He's such a squandered character. He's a freedom fighter/terrorist captain who hates the Federation and yet by the second episode he's already a complete pussy cat who just rolls over and does whatever Janeway tells him to.
Voyager is filled with interesting ideas that got scrapped because they wanted to make the series more comfy like TNG and because they didn't have the guts to have anyone questionoing mommy Janeway's decisions.
Seven of Nine was what Chakotay should have been from the start the foil who actually pushes back against Janeway's naive Federation bullshit.
Most Maquis had Federation values though and many former Starfleet members. The Maquis were also irrelevant in the Delta Quadrant. I agree it could have been explored better, but Chakotay's single punch in season 1 finale wraps it up nicely too.
Tbf he was kinda fricked. I mean any Maquis crew were completely outnumbered and Tuvok had infiltrated their cell anyway. He was not a clever man, and he knew it
What was this episode? It's like the producers/writers brought her back for the sole purpose of character assassinating Kes and giving Jennifer Lien a middle finger. This should have been a medical episode about Kes' hospice and she could have had some final bonding moments with the Doctor and Neelix. Some really petty, spiteful shit
This is my least favorite episode of the entire show.
I have mixed feelings about this one. To me it was just too much to cram into 40 minutes
Nope, it's still "Fury" for me.
Just a bad script. Not nearly as shitty as pure spitefulness
The salamander episode is at least enjoyable for its silliness and how ridiculous its ending is. Its the Spock's Brain of Voyager.
I think it was supposed to be symbolic of the actress' real life problems.
Which other Treks had an episode where it felt like the producers deliberately shitting on an actor?
Broccoli’s first episode, even though he wound up the hero
Barclay was supposed to be making fun of Trekkies who wrote self-insert fanfiction where they were the Gigachad of the story. Doesn’t he cuck Riker in the Holodeck as his first action?
He cucks the entire bridge crew, Geordi, Troi, the Dr., everybody. Watch it, it’s awesome. They laid the pathos on him so thick you need a phaser to cut through it