Who the frick was this for?

Who the frick was this for?

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  1. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Me

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I love that movie

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        What is that movie though?

  2. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    For the nerds who are always complaining about plot convenance and plot armor.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      *Convenience

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Ruins is full of contriviances and conveniences though.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        yeah, but in the opposite direction. its anti-plot armor and anti-convenience. the worst thing happens all the time. its a world devoid of any joy where the worst things happen, perfect for self hating nerds who hate cape shit.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      That explains a lot of the accidental deaths. But it doesn't explain things like Cap being a cannibal or Professor X enslaving his own people and getting off on their suffering. That's not particularly realistic.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      IT'S SATIRE! HOW THE FRICK IS A BOARD DEDICATED TO READING *THIS* FRICKING ILLITERATE?

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        What's satirical about it? What's it satire of? Pointless edge?

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          its satire because it was from a time when edge was cool but it was more edgy to shit on people people who thought they where edgy

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          its satire because it was from a time when edge was cool but it was more edgy to shit on people people who thought they where edgy

          You're both moronic. This board is literally moronic.

          HOW IN THE FRICK DO YOU MISS THE PARALLELS TO MARVELS?

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Nobody reads comics here

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Everybody knows it's satire, Marvels was mentioned early in the thread, it's just a dogshit satire and most of it is not even satire but random stupid shit that has nothing with Marvel or the real world.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Satire is a form of humor and no humor is attempted in this comic, therefore it isn't satire, it's just a jab.

          >Ruins has zero humor or self-awareness

          How is it possible to be this obtuse?

          See above

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Sattire isnt a blank check to write shit. Amrville is also sattire.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >Amrville

          What? Also why can you not spell satire?

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Marville probably

  3. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >Who the frick was this for?

    For Warren Ellis the Groomer to jerk off over how much he hates superheroes.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Marvel and DC have an insane self-harming habit of repeatedly hiring edgy British writers who dislike superheroes and getting them to write superhero books.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Because british invasion writers(and later generation british writers) are the only writers with any talent and sucess that accept to be paid 0,01% of the profit and have nearly no rights on movies, toys and cartoons sales.

        Compared to them every single big 2 writer is an amateur. It's like having a best seller author to write something for your creepypasta site.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Frankly a lot of them are very overrated and are just IT'S GOOD BECAUSE IT'S EDGY or IT'S GOOD BECAUSE IT'S TEARING THE CHARACTERS DOWN AND MOCKING THEM, like hiring writers who bite the hand that feeds them is a good thing.

          I'd prefer reading superhero comics by people that don't dislike superheroes and don't consider the job and the readers to be beneath them but they really need the money.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        That's because the British writers bumped their sales. To them it was the opposite of self-harm.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >long-term harm to books and characters is worth it for short term sales bumps
          Sadly true for the way the industry works. But for most of those writers it's more "the critics like them" than them actually bumping sales that much. Since this thread is about one of his books, it needs to be said that Ellis was never the big draw the industry thought he was.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >it needs to be said that Ellis was never the big draw the industry thought he was.

            It's complicated because at the time he was big (late 90s/early 00s), to many he seemed the most foward-thinking of people in comics at the time. He set up a forum that allowed him to converse with fans, retailers, and other professionals which did have some benefits to him (Transmet sales went up some when he did) and in a time before digital comics was fully viable understood that bookstores were the way to go.

            Where it went wrong was that he wanted to control the discussion (that never works in the long-run), he and many of his acolytes tended to like or make stuff that was just as niche as superheroes, and people in the industry took some of the wrong lessons. And that's not even getting into Ellis using the forum for his own personal affairs.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Aside from Grant Morrison (and for a brief period in the mid-80s, Alan Moore), the British Writers did NOT "bump their sales". In fact, they mostly sold quite poorly. They were hired to be "prestige writers". In other words, "to garner critical acclaim for the publisher". They were never expected to sell well in the first place.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >Warren Ellis the Groomer
      You can't casually throw that kind of accusation around. Post proof or GTFO.

  4. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Is there a DC equivalent of this?

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Tales from the Dark Multiverse I guess

  5. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    For people from second- and third-world countries.

    I remember years ago on Russian Cinemaphile analogue there was a depressing comics thread and I brought up Ruins and got
    responses along the lines of
    >what is supposed to be depressing about this, a bunch of childish homosexual superheroes died, no adult would care about that shit

    The discrepancy between how easy Americas are to impress and how hard my people are to impress will always boggle my mind.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Western snowflakes, anon.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      That's because they're missing the cultural context. Also in Russia you can frick a man in the ass to prove you're straight.

      It's a shame that it's just so amateurish. The whole thing feels like someone trying to write an edgy book for edgy readers, but has no idea what that would, so you just end up with the nonsense we get in the book. It can't even keep to its concept properly. Like I can see how
      >everything that can go wrong will go wrong
      can lead to the X-Men being imprisoned and even mutilated to keep in check, or Banner and the FF each suffering horrible fates from overwhelming blasts of mutating radiation, but then what the frick is Johnny Blaze doing setting himself on fire for money, or the Silver Surfer just randomly going insane and tear his chest open--which somehow leads to Galactus being dead??

      The only two audiences I could see for this are:
      1) People like Garth Ennis who are just glad it exists, regardless of the quality, because they just want something that exists as "frick them heroes"
      2) People who just want to enjoy Terese Nielsen's art, regardless of what it is of

      Ruins is two or three genuinely good set pieces amid a sea of schlock. If it had stopped at one issue it would probably be held in higher regard because issue two is where it really falls off.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >in Russia you can frick a man in the ass to prove you're straight
        What's the problem?

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Yeah, only homosexuals frick girls.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous
    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Because american teenagers and young adults are forced to read Mark Twain while Russian teenagers and young adults are forced to read Fyodor Dostoevsky.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      It makes sense when you put it in context. Russia is a country where in the average household your soldier dad is dead from AIDS after being raped by his commanding officer, your mom is a drug-addled prostitute, you have a sore ass from being raped by the gopniki of your commieblock, said commieblock is a lifeless slab of concrete where the water is a brackish brown and the lights are on three days of the week, and if you ever insinuate things are less than utopically perfect the child-raping israelites openly ruling the country will send the police to shoot your entire family.

      TL;DR the Russians have a higher bar for what is considered depressing.

  6. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    BEST. WHAT IF. EVER.

  7. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    It's a shame that it's just so amateurish. The whole thing feels like someone trying to write an edgy book for edgy readers, but has no idea what that would, so you just end up with the nonsense we get in the book. It can't even keep to its concept properly. Like I can see how
    >everything that can go wrong will go wrong
    can lead to the X-Men being imprisoned and even mutilated to keep in check, or Banner and the FF each suffering horrible fates from overwhelming blasts of mutating radiation, but then what the frick is Johnny Blaze doing setting himself on fire for money, or the Silver Surfer just randomly going insane and tear his chest open--which somehow leads to Galactus being dead??

    The only two audiences I could see for this are:
    1) People like Garth Ennis who are just glad it exists, regardless of the quality, because they just want something that exists as "frick them heroes"
    2) People who just want to enjoy Terese Nielsen's art, regardless of what it is of

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >but then what the frick is Johnny Blaze doing setting himself on fire for money, or the Silver Surfer just randomly going insane and tear his chest open--which somehow leads to Galactus being dead??
      I think those make sense, problem is completely random shit like Jean Grey ending up a prostitute and being fricked by Nick Fury just to be killed by him shortly after or Captain America being a cannibal and how the avengers were mostly all the average 616 versions rather than villains or fricked up versions with terrible origins because the writer got tired of writing the story.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >It's a shame that it's just so amateurish

      It's basically a book that seems great when you're a edgy kid but doesn't hold up on reread for that reason. The ideas are there but it's like listening to an old man ramble. Like Ellis' newsletters.

      >but then what the frick is Johnny Blaze doing setting himself on fire for money, or the Silver Surfer just randomly going insane and tear his chest open--which somehow leads to Galactus being dead??
      I think those make sense, problem is completely random shit like Jean Grey ending up a prostitute and being fricked by Nick Fury just to be killed by him shortly after or Captain America being a cannibal and how the avengers were mostly all the average 616 versions rather than villains or fricked up versions with terrible origins because the writer got tired of writing the story.

      >because the writer got tired of writing the story.

      That's because they're missing the cultural context. Also in Russia you can frick a man in the ass to prove you're straight.

      [...]
      Ruins is two or three genuinely good set pieces amid a sea of schlock. If it had stopped at one issue it would probably be held in higher regard because issue two is where it really falls off.

      >If it had stopped at one issue it would probably be held in higher regard because issue two is where it really falls off.

      That was kind of the problem, Ellis said this was originally going to be just a What If issue, but then editorial thought it was good enough to stretch to two prestige-format issues with painted art. On top of that Ellis said that the original artists of the first issue were going through some nasty divorce.

      That said "tired of writing the story" kind of feels like it did happen even if Ellis didn't say so, because we've seen how there's times it feels like he loses interest when something goes wrong on a project.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >or the Silver Surfer just randomly going insane and tear his chest open--which somehow leads to Galactus being dead??
      That's easy to explain. The Silver Surfer wants to know what it feels like to breathe again, and Galactus starves to death because he doesn't have a Herald to lead him to the next planet to eat.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        He starved to death.

  8. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    bad end fetishist.

  9. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Magneto and Mystique deaths should have been implied to be secretly caused by President Xavier.
    Now that I think about it, why didn't President Xavier used his powers to make Captain America surrender?

  10. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    It was a warning of things to come for the comics industry.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Wait shouldn't Ruins be about women and minorities killing all the white superheroes and replacing them then? Because that's what happened not the "haha look how awful real superpowers would be" Shit in Ruins.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      That's not what it was at all.

  11. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Funny how Ben Grimm who was the freak of the regular Marvel Universe alongside Hulk, here ended up being the only one who has a normal life.

  12. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    The edgy capeshitters.

  13. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I liked it alot, i love grimdark edge

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Ins't the point of grimdark that the heroes are morally unbreakable and will fight to the end even if the villain is clearly invincible and a happy ending no longer possible?
      >The Galaxy burns...yet still we stand! the last bulwark against the terror, and while we draw breath we will fight! For in this new dark age...THERE IS ONLY WAR."

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Not always. Sometimes it is just that nothing you do matters.

  14. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Robot Chicken and MAD magazin fans.

  15. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    *shoots teenage hooker*, Frick you OP I’m clean. Captain America was killed in a Patriot missile strike a few hours ago *BANG*

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      is she a hooker or is she an agent of President X

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Both

  16. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Maybe it's just unique to capeshit, because the characters can never, ever go away, but comics seem to be the only medium where this kind of sadistic shit crops up with any kind if frequency.
    Marvel Zombies and Ultimatum spring to mind. Crossed, too. The Invisibles.
    At least the Japs tend to keep that stuff to their fetish doujinshi.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Crossed and Invisibles don't have anything to do with Marvel/DC superhero comics.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >but comics seem to be the only medium where this kind of sadistic shit crops up with any kind if frequency.
      Fanfiction?

  17. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    It's a real shame this comic gets discussed more here than the one it was spoofing.

  18. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Me, it was kino

  19. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Such a pointless, bizarre and narcissistic comic
    It's like he was jealous Busiek came along and showed you didn't have to be an edgy moron to tell a good story with superheroes
    Ellis' works always had the most self-absorbed fart-huffing sensibilities of any British Invasion writer

  20. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    It sucks that It was a great idea and it started extremely well, then the author decided to turn the second half into a shitpost where rather than being a combination of creative tragic what if is just end up a lot of random shock value scenes, everybody would be talking about it as a classic to this day if it was simply consistent to the end.

  21. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I saw someone's description of it and it made me wanna check it out because they made it sound like I'm the person it was for. I should probably get around to that and then report back in once I have.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      What was their description? Because it's one giant piss-take. It's basically "What If Everything Went As Wrong As It Possibly Could?"

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        I'm obsessed with a particular atmosphere/tone/vibe/feeling that only very specific select works seem to possess, with the emotion I link to it the most being despair. Things are terrible and things will not get better, but everyone's just going through the motions and trying to survive, lying to themselves and pretending they believe that things will get better, but they don't believe it one bit- they're just trying to trick themselves into believing it with the desperate hope it will make things better...even though they will only get worse. They're trying to survive but there's nothing left to survive for and they know it.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          In simpler terms, "trying to survive but knowing there's nothing worth surviving for anymore" and "nothing you do matters. nothing anyone else does will matter either."

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Apocalyptic is the word you're looking for.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Might as well storytime too if you're gonna go to all that trouble

  22. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    The garth ennis audience

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I like Ennis comics, but I dislike Ruins.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        It's simple, Ruins has zero humor or self-awareness whatsoever unlike Ennis

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >Ruins has zero humor or self-awareness

          How is it possible to be this obtuse?

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Not even close.

  23. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >reads this thread
    I feel like I'm having deja vu. Like the exact words happened before.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Because every thread about this comic is the same. Cinemaphile is literally moronic.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous
  24. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    For you.

  25. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    The same kind of idiots who will think that Planetary is actually good.

  26. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Me

  27. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    It was literally just the opposite of marvels.

  28. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I feel like they could have gotten more creative with it, especially with Peter.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I was expecting Cap to be something like an acromegalic bloatmaxxer whose heart exploded from the stress of mainlining a dumptruck full of irradiated steroids instead of implied regular Cap except also a cannibal because why not?

  29. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Just seemed more mean spirited rather than funny. For all the hate it gets, Robot Chicken tends to do super hero mishaps with a bit more care and humor.

  30. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Ellis and no one else.

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