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Kat Dennings does a great job in the Audio book, could have gone with her.
death is flat
Margaret Qualley maybe?
Death is also white. They obviously don't care about being authentic with her look.
Yeah, but she's like literally white. It's the Endless. They aren't from any race because they have existed for all of eternity
Okay, but what does that have to do with her booba?
death is also flat
That would have been kino
kys
Fricking nobody. Netflix should stop trying to make shit.
99’ Fairuza Balk
I like the cut of your jib
Terrible she's disgusting. Looks like a slimy c**t
At least someone close to the source material.
Who?
that's a man, sweety
emiru
My sister
no one knows because no one read the manga or was even alive when it came out. People here just like to whine
*comic uhg frick manga
An Asian
A latina
A native American
A Muslim
Anyone LIGHT skinned. To do the make up in the eye
felicity jones
how about someone with straight hair, for one?
You know, the real problem is that they fricked the story up, fricked every character up, completely missed anything and everything that made the comic so great. Death just being black isn't really an issue, though, since the Endless more or less reflect he society around them when they show up on Earth. Cinemaphile is just mad because they can't jack off to the actress that they cast. That's all this comes down to. You guys wanted to coom to le goth gf and instead you got DEY HEA, that's okay, just admit that it's because you're racist coomers and you would hate this even if they actually adapted it well.
Adapting it well and black wash stunt casting are diametrically opposed concepts.
There's absolutely nothing about Death's character that requires her to be white. The Endless appear black in the Africa storyline, hence pic related from my last post. This is literally just because you guys wanted to waifu it up over Death's character, but can't because she's a fugly nog. There are a zillion pictures of attractive white women cosplaying as Death. If you really need to scratch that itch you can. Death being race-swapped is honestly more sensible than Despair not being a hideous old woman, but just some fat, bland looking office woman, since they can't have the stunt-casted fat woman be TOO ugly, or it would be "body shaming" or some gay shit.
Point is, the story could still be told if they were ALL black but they fricked the story up.
wow that totally disregards her iconic appearance
>m-m-muh iconic appearance
NOBODY on the show looks like they are supposed to. Nobody's b***hing about Lucien being race AND gender AND ageswapped. But none of you wanted to coom to Lucien, did you?
>Most popular character is most popular
D'you think Dark Tower fans objected to Idris because they wanted to coom to Roland the Gunslinger?
Yes, because Stephen King fans are all gay
that bit where the chick gets fricked by a ghost made me coom tho, no cap fr fr
I accept your concession.
Kek what is it about white makeup and black hair that tricks so many morons into thinking that a woman is attractive? This is literally the same trick that fat women have been pulling since the 1980s as an excuse to put even more makeup on that normal ugly women.
The real answer is that Dark Tower fans wanted to self-insert as Roland, and couldn't do that with a black guy. It's why BLACKED porn sucks so much
>The real answer is that
No it isn't. It's because he's a well described character. I also want the Hulk to have a particular look, which isn't because I think I'm like the Hulk. Are you 8 years old?
Look at this degenerate coomer, defending BLACKED porn like that
I watched BLACKED to self insert as the woman
>But none of you wanted to coom to Lucien, did you?
You're beginning to understand the medium. Just take it a little further anon.
no one cares about any comic book/cartoon/manga/ video game character outside their design
everything else comes after that fact.
Just more proof that comic book readers are mentally still children.
>There are a zillion pictures of attractive white women cosplaying as Death
There are also a zillion white actresses who could've been cast.
>This is literally just because you guys wanted to waifu it up over Death's character,
Because that's the actual point of the character.
Nobody, not even Neil, really cares about anything else.
>There's absolutely nothing about Death's character that requires her to be white.
Except from her design which is literally 99% of the character
Don't waste your time, these neet no lifers think companies cater to them. This website is manly for schizoid posting about a dream world.
Who should they be catering to? Nerds who watch TV seems like a reasonable choice for this.
I will say.
Death in the comic appeared as young.
If anything the Rose actress needed to be death
The woman they picked for Death is way too fricking old. She's 35. Death always felt like a teen almost.
Is not that she's black. She's too old!
You could have had a real goth looking black girl
But Netflix and neil gaiman picked the worst actress they could
That's a man
because israelites like Gaiman want to demoralize you. They want to parade the grotesque and ugly and treat it as beautiful, because their goal is the inversion of every value you might have held, to get you to either accept the grotesque as beautiful or be too demoralized to fight back.
But why did he made Death so beautiful in the comic?
Because in 1989 he was a young coomer who let lust control his pen. Funny how that is somehow preferable to the bizarre state cult we now have
>Gaiman's family is of Polish-israeli and other Eastern European israeli origins
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neil_Gaiman#Early_life
Huh, I always thought he was Welsh
I concede
Your nose for the nose is not very keen.
Gaimen didnt draw it
no, but he told the artist what to draw.
I think gaiman just cashed his check and didn't care. called everyone who called it bad casting racist but I doubt he actually had complete control over every cast member. There's a mandate and diversity quota for netflix shows so there's not much he could do and he'd be called racist if he said it was a bad choice
Do you, somehow, think that death in the comics was NOT coom material for gayman?
Get down of your horse the comic is not that fricking profound
Why was she so beautiful
>You guys wanted to coom to le goth gf and instead you got DEY HEA
More like we got the same black female raceswap in every adapation, and it's becoming tiresome. I can count the number of pale goth girls in modern medias with one hand, but we have to change it for a boring raceswap that we have seen dozens of time.
It's really Black person fatigue at this point.
>I can count the number of pale goth girls in modern medias with one hand
>And that hand is usually in my pants
>And that hand is usually in my pants
Well yes but I have also a deep jungle fever so it doesn't change much about what I said.
Now explain me how this raceswap improves the material ? We change a character archetype that we don't see that much for a one that we see in every serie
This. I'm sick of looking at them.
They're unironically trying to convince people that ugly black people are actually attractive and it's just because people have been conditioned to view beauty a certain way that whites don't want to frick them.
They believe that beauty is a social construct instead of largely an objective reality.
It's no different to thinking that a turd is as beautiful as a diamond.
I wonder if the creators of these shows are aware that they are in the business of producing more racists. I mean, no racist will ever watch shows like this after seeing enough black people they'll one day be less racist. Meanwhile there are millions of normies who aren't racist, who always thought of themselves as fairly liberal and color blind, but these shows are slowly chipping away at their sanity until one day the fatigue gets too strong and they break and admit that something is wrong here, that these casting choices aren't what they were supposed to be.
>I wonder if the creators of these shows are aware that they are in the business of producing more racists
Honestly, I have been wondering for a while now if that is not the true intention of the events of the past decade, to push blacks in everyone's faces to make them the main target of people's ire, a misdirection you might say.
you must think in generations. New generations growing on this will feel like it's normal than every story ever coinceived MUST have divesity and minorities or it's just wrong.
You must be a zoomer. Literally every cast of characters for a number of years through the 2000s featured a pale white goth. The thing you're complaining about never seeing has already been done and ran into the fricking ground before you learned how to take a shit on your own.
Yes in the 2000s, something like 12 to 22 years ago. I don't care that it was your youth, I'm talking about the present. There is not a lot of these characters in current media and on the other side, you can't count the number of raceswap that replace the original characters with the "dreads middle aged black lady" like some anon pointed out.
>You guys wanted to coom to le goth gf
Frick off, moron. The pale skin and dark hair is death symbolism. If she is black, she has black hair because all blacks have black hair and her ankh means "we wuz kangs."
If she is Caucausian then she has the pale skin of death, her hair is black for symbolic reasons and the ankh is an ironic reference to the ancient Egyptian symbol of life.
Okay, why are the rest of the Endless pale with white skin?
Destiny, Delirium, and Destruction aren't.
What's your point?
Don't have one, just making a correction.
Also Death's casting is just a drama stunt and anyone that thinks otherwise is just huffing their own farts.
Grim reaper would be black now because of modern crime
Cope trannie
>waah waah waah everyone who posts something I don't like is a troony!
I'm a chud, you moronic, autistic homosexual
>I'm a chud
Ok gay
mannish estrogenated hands typed this post
My hands are manly because I live off of duck eggs and elk meat and work out all the time. I'm not sure if either contain that much estrogen.
post them
No because then you'll just make fun of me for being black
fair enough
>Death just being black isn't really an issue
>Spawn can be white, it isn't really an issue
>Blade can be white, it isn't really an issue
We can play this game too troony.
As amusing as these little thought experiments can be you have to understand you aren't having a discussion with people that operate on any sort of functioning logic and unironically believe its okay when they do it because they're on the right side of history.
No the Endless take on alternate appearances whenever the artists wanna do something different for a few pages and just to play around some. Its wildly inconsistent and should be taken with an oversized grain of salt.
>should be taken with an oversized grain of salt
>oversized
You have no idea where that saying comes from, do you? Should be a very, very small grain of salt.
It was simply a point of exaggeration to be extremely skeptical of using that train of thought as any real proof or basis for anything. It could be a neat scene here and there for flavor but that's about it, and its definitely not a reasonable basis for stunt casting Death as a black woman by any stretch.
the endless do change based on setting but have a set baseline appearance, it'd be okay based on this if death was black for a scene..a short scene
Oh yeah I'd be entirely fine if they played around a ton with the whole idea of them looking different to different people based on their ideologies and the like. But they couldn't just do that could they? They had to down the whole cake and tell everyone else to eat dick instead.
>We can play this game too
Too bad it's never happening except in your dreams and gay fanart lolololol
The endless take the appearance that whoever encounters them fantasizes about. Since this show is American, it fully makes sense that the hot one would be black (and not particularly attractive)
Adapting it well would mean not casting an ugly pie face negress though. Doing so entirely misses the artistic conceptualization of death.
Death in Sandman is supposed to be a juxtaposition of the standard interpretation of the Grim Reaper. Which is why Death is portrayed as Young, Attractive, and Loving.
And while some people find some Black women attractive, meaning they could've at least cast some Mulatto Halle Berry type that didn't have huge nostrils, it would still subconsciously run up against the idea of Death being Loving. And nobody thinks of Black women as Loving, not even the majority of Black people. No in fact the first thought that comes to mind for the vast majority of people (of any race) is selfish b***hes that always cause drama and have explosive emotional outbursts over the most trifling matters. Unless they're 60yrs old, then they can be kind Loving Mamys, but that Old Age once again goes against the original concept for Death in the comics.
So no. There is no way to do Death right other than sticking to how it was done in the comic.
And sure, 30 years ago Sandman had some Progressive ideas in it, FOR THE TIME, but the problem is the Hollywood hack writers who only read this in the Wiki think this gives them a green light to apply their "Progressive" values from 2022 to this fictional adaptation, which as we see with Death, causes them to totally frick it while missing the underlying reasoning that made the work compelling in the first place.
They could've picked other spots to ideologically splooge on without fricking up what made the original good, but that would require them to respect the source material and have the good judgement to not overly indulge in their spastic, baser instincts.
With dyed hair.
Das a homie!
unironically a good choice for Desire tho
Death is 100% not 41%
a Black person
Racial slurs are not permitted outside of /b/
It's ok, I'm a Black person
Kys trannie israelite
Honestly Margaret Qualley
She's like 40 years old...and also ugly
try again.
jane? more like plane
Crashed with no survivors?
>pale white skin
>black hair
>netflix: got it. Cast Black person.
What the frick did they mean by this?
>N took this from you
Surely her account was not banned haha
>5'2"
Sarah Gadon
go frick yourself
Keep seething.
No u
Kys moron
jump off a bridge and bloat
Any extremely cute white girl with milk white skin and dark black hair. Netflix has no fricking taste, keep the qt black girls in there own shows so I can appreciate them but give my goth white girls when I want to see them
Is that so much to ask for, you bastards?
See? SEE? That's my point, you guys don't give a frick about the portrayal (which was bad), the story (which they fricked up), or any of the other characters that were race and/or gender swapped.
You just wanted to COOM to a qt white goth girl. You're just a bunch of coomers, you don't give a frick about art. Death being black is the LEAST offensive aspect of the shit they messed up
Frick off, I wanted to see my waifu adapted faithfully
Look at Sarah Gadon guy, waifugay. Is that really what you want to be? You have been gifted something as complicated and beautiful as the conscious human mind, and given the best invention for communication that we as a race have come up with since the fricking alphabet. And that's what you're going to do with it? Shit all over your Dasein with coomerposting on a Philipino origami forum because you got baited by Netflix?
Dude I used to jack off to Shampoo from Ranma 1/2 when I was like 12 but when I became a man I set aside childish things.
>Dasein
I see what you're doing now. You're nazi recruiting these chuds. Try using less german. Then your bait will be 5/10.
4.8/10
I'm actually a Duginist, and reading Heidegger doesn't automatically make you a nazi. I do not care for political reactions to modernism, since they don't apply to the postmodern world we live in.
Stoya
>Stoya
She is a old crack prostitute now. (Hot Pearl) is the new shit.
Okay, are you homosexuals happy now? Here you go, here's your comic-accurate Death
no
Dude that is just some ho. There are hundreds of thousands of them just a click away.
If it were just some camprostitute I wouldn't have posted
>make her white and make her do an aheago face the whole time! Y-yeah
OMG CUUUUUUTTTTEE. THANK U DDY NETFLIX FOR THIS FAITHFUL ADAPTATIO-OOOOOooooOOOOOOOooooohhhh I'm cumming! oooooaaaaaaaAAAAAHHHHHHHH
Yes, I would be super happy with that.
The girl from better things? Unironically great casting.
Can someone with Photoshop make her look like she is wearing white makeup?
For comparison's sake
she cute, love her voice too.
High contrast desaturation is the best I can do
this took an unreasonable amount of time to make
Now do Angry
Please
some retouches
I wouldn't care if they picked this actress and done this to her
Took me like ten seconds, amateur
Does she not even have the eye tattoo? How fricking lazy.
Blackest gorilla Black person imaginable
Absolutely seething lmao.
I see your seethe and I raise you to cope, dilate, take your meds, buy a dog, lawyer up, delete your facebook, duct tape your windows, and for the love of God, HAVE SEX
Instructions unclear, so I frick the dog? No thanks!
>1 number off
go expose your nail beds dumb c**t
all too easy
Great pick
But no way they'd pay as much as she would ask
she was right here all along
Too old and plastic
Nah, it would need to be someone who can actually act instead of stand there like a plastic doll. Dumbass.
she's done acting and is good enough for a netflix show
those monke ears tho
Neil Gaiman is a israelite. He was taught from birth to hate White people. Why are homosexuals seething that some israelite character was turned into a Black person? You are slaves
He's Welsh
Not much of a difference but I'd like to point it out
Frick off back to containment incel.
Ok joomer
Taylor Swift.
Not a darkie that's for sure
god she was cute
itself into the fires of Mt Doom
I chuckled
There are thousands and thousands of actors and the idea that you just can't find one that can act and look the part is insane nonsense. Fricking insane.
Emma Dumont
my wife
You are one lucky bastard if true.
Gaiman? More like Gayman. What a fricking hack fraud he sure turned out to be.
He’s divorced, so I guess he needs the money.
Does Cinemaphile really think casting based on looks solves anything? How old are you guys?
My queen
>Does Cinemaphile really think casting based on looks solves anything?
Are you aware that film is a visual medium? What the frick is wrong with you? Seriously? The way things look on the screen is very, very important. What is your malfunction?
No, we think you can EASILY have both ability and the look.
The woman casted was too old and acts horrible.
Death is like a teen. They picked a middle age black lady.
There's even young girls that fit better like Zendaya
Jess Bush could have done it. And was in the realistic range of available actors considered.
This frog looking thing gives Emma Stone a run for her money.
She looks cuter in motion. She has cute expressions.
Pls don't bully my nursefu
I honestly hate the blond hair and dark eyebrows thing more than I hate neon hair at this point
You don't want to know what it looks like when they dye their eyebrows to match, anon. It's ghoulish.
Blondes naturally have darker eyebrows, arm pit hair, and pubic hair most of the time.
Natural blondes do not have dark brown eyebrows you absolute moron
Not all, but many do
no more ayylmao actresses, please. and no more meme eyebrows. both of these memes need to die
>ayylmao actresses
I like this one, because at least she was honestly cast as 'alien girl'
Looks nice with a tan.
Lindsay Ellis
If they were dead set on Death being black then Zoe was the answer, only she would have been too expensive.
Or this girl from hunger games
>this girl
Um, YIKES. She's nonbinary now, chud.
I see 2 binaries in her chest
>Hairy armpits
Haha what if you licked them while they were sweaty haha
But really though, her or young Zoe Saldana would have been way fricking better yes. It's not ideal, but at least a youthful girl who actually looks good would be miles better.
Even if they really didn't want to go with a white woman you could have gotten what's her face from Prey or Mikey Madison with goth makeup.
imo though peak choice would have been young MEW
I've never read this comic, but after seeing this pic and looking up who they cast I understand why people are pissed lol.
>Who was Netflix supposed to cast?
A white or Asian woman. You know someone with pale skin and straight hair. There's basically one race you can't cast and they did it.
I know who you -really- wanted.
I don't get it
you wouldn't would you
>Idris Elba as Dream
>Lance Reddick as Death
Even though Death is based on some actual chick Gayman knew I always see a combo of Christina Applegate + Jeneane Garofalo + Susana Hoffs when I look at the art of her.
pretty sure he mentioned that death was based on some goth waitress at a diner he saw while he was pitching the comic
Does it really matter which goth girl he based it on? They all literally look the same, they're like the RC cola or In-N-Out of pussy.
Thanks for your opinion, mutt. I grew up with actual blondes, and no, they do not. Meme eyebrows are not natural. Hollywood decided that it looked "striking", but Hollywood is run by gay israelites who aren't really interested in women unless they're 14 and have nice feet
The blondes you grew up with did not. Many do.
There's also a lot of Joan Jett and that one goth 90s singer that's not Alanis Morisette who I can't remember.
oh the torn chick? I can see that
>that one goth 90s singer that's not Alanis Morisette who I can't remember
That's definitely Linda Perry.
She died btw. rip
Neither Linda Perry or Alanis Morisette were goth.
Siouxsie Sioux could wear all-yellow and still be goth, because Siouxsie and the Banshees were a goth band (hell, Robert Smith was even a member at one point). Linda and Alanis didn't make anything even close to goth music.
Proof.
Wearing a bunch of black doesn't make you a goth.
Nah, just makes her(?) look like a whacko troony.
>arguing about goth
>doesn't know who the frick siouxsie and the banshees is
you dumb mother fricker
Alanis I will accept as new age or grunge.
Linda was goth.
Alanis wasn't new age, you twit. Would an Alanis song fit in on a Pure Moods compilation?
She wasn't grunge either. She was "alt-rock". Not quite grunge (not enough metal influence), not quite indie (not enough punk influence).
Linda Perry was in 4 Non Blondes. She is also "alt-rock". She looked like she should be hanging out with Prince or something.
You're confusing music and fashion. And making silly genre divisions like some kind of Cinemaphile queer.
I say good day to you sir.
Prince was pretty goth sometimes (a lot of the time)
Goth fashion came directly from goth music. Bands like The Cure and Siouxsie defined the look. Zoom along now, zoom-zoom
Nobody cares about any of that shit.
How dare I bring a little context in to culture. Oh, that's right, nothing before 2010 existed. Fricking dumb zoomer b***h
Holy shit what a moron.
I’m assuming the original poster meant Shirley Manson anyways and I wouldn’t call her goth either but closer than those two
>Would an Alanis song fit in on a Pure Moods compilation?
Some of them would. She's not always angry.
That's like calling Mazzy Star "new age".
NO SHE DIDNT DIE LIAR
Could have sworn she died.
But aren't goths supposed to be the living dead anyway?
>Christina Applegate
speaking of b***hes with ms, selma blair could've fit the role when she was younger, at least aesthetically
An Asian in white body paint.
Wow, we're really hitting it out of the park with this thread. We have chinkposters, we have the Hunter troony spammer, we got BLACKED aficionados, we got the Sarah Gadon guy.
How has nobody suggested Anya yet?
Are there really no pasty goth chicks left in the current year?
>Fake goth
Disgusting
Death is a fake goth too
She's an ironic goth, ahead of her time really.
But she's not real
this is the first time the b***h has been in the sun in the last decade
She seems too tall and regal for Death.
Death is a little cutie.
How old is she now?
Too tall, too pale.
too gay
an actress that isn’t an ugly fricking ape
Great another Elliot page
The girl they cast but cover her in white makeup
whats up with her waist?
>her
that's a man
hot
Black people can be goth
They were outcasts in the late 2000's scene girl fad. The guys who noticed them and married them were wearing torn up Vans and cutoffs too and probably very happy these days.
Oh man they were great. I used to frick a big tiddy black goth back at my majority-white high school in the early 2000s. Really pissed my racist mom off
I'm watching the first episode and I'm more annoyed by the Netflix production values than anything. How can you put so much money into something and it still looks like a CW 2000's tv show?
goth chel
I WILL LICK EVERY SINGLE INCH OF HER ENTIRE VODY
i'd be okay with this bc it fits the character.
See, we can have nice things. I don't mind that the actresses is black, what I do mind is just... how out of place she looks. Honestly compared to the art direction in the comic, the Netflix series does nothing for me visually. Everything just looks incredibly cheap, especially the backgrounds.
maybe an unknown or an up and coming indie singer with the right vibe
easy
I don't mind casting different types of people for characters, but even as a big progressive lefty I have noticed that certain media companies ideas of 'diversity' mean picking bald middle aged black lady or dreads middle aged black lady. They won't ever consider Asian actors, non standard white actors, younger or older actors, and they can only picture black actors as those two specific caricatures. Even the left recognise his bullshit corpos during pride month are, but not as many realise this is just the same shit
Obviously that fatass gorilla from Precious
>Bad religion
>Goth
she doesn't even listen to them, bought it because she liked the shirt
.
the casting was fine but they should've painted her in whiteface
I'm surprised you're all not making a bigger deal about Lyta Hall getting
B L A C K E D
Yeah there's like a million other things wrong with the show but Cinemaphile has a wild hair up their ass about Death because this board is full of coomers
Your dad was a coomer. Be grateful
Dude looks biracial, not so bad.
A nog's a nog
literally load up tiktok and pick any random "alt" prostitute and it would be an improvement
>"b-but they can't act"
and you think this Black person can?
Not a black chick. Gayman’s sand will get canceled faster than bepop
Eugenia Cooney
whomst?
Should have got Alice from Twilight
Too old and bogged now.
Ashley green ( the twilight girl) is 35
The black lady they hired as Death, is 35......
Literally equal age ..
I'm trying to enjoy this show but I'm genuinely offended by the tokenization for woke points. It's distracting and offensive.
>all the comments in the video praising this shit
Yuck
Now please make her hair straight goth.
You complaining about homies in fantasy OP???
Nathalie Emmanuel, Zoe Kravitz, Annalise Basso
I've been putting off reading Sandman for a little over a decade now because I wanted to be ready for it and really enjoy it, but I think I'll read it now. After doing a cursory search of the differences between the comic and the Netflix adaption I can tell the comic will be way better.
The show was pretty good, though.
eva green
They should have found a clone of Shannyn Sossamon
God damn it, it's so simple an upgrade for a team of makeup artists with the budget they have and they couldn't even be arsed to do this. And of course the moron consoomers are eating it up like no tomorrow.
This lmao, Black Americans hate their women like no other. It's crazy
this is netflix we're talking about. they wouldn't do something as problematic as imply that a black actress doesn't have fair skin
I actually love this. I really love this. I know they could never paint her skin white.
But even the hair and eye make up makes me love this
of course not anon, that would be racist
I used to feel fairly indifferent about Netflix blunders and even enjoyed laughing about them on Cinemaphile, but recently I'm starting to feel a bit annoyed. Like, all this wasted potential is starting to get to me. I would have genuinely enjoyed a good show based on the Sandman comics. It didn't even have to be great, just watchable quality like what Netflix used to make during their decline years with stuff like A Series of Unfortunate Events, Jessica Jones, Luke Cage, later ST seasons etc. Clearly inferior to their golden years, but still decent enough quality and watchable.
I'm mad at the waste of money
I'm mad that good non black actors don't get these parts
I'm mad. I'm really mad that Netflix and these people get the rights and no oner company can do it.
Yes
It's beyond black castings. Their writers are awful. Their stories are shit
They could've just used Jenna and I doubt anyone would have complained too much othet than her being a bit too old now
Anons, how do I into Sandman?
Just read the original comic?
or listen to mettallica
I chuckled sensibly.
Heh, not bad anon not bad
Not just a Black person, but a really UGLY Black person too.
That's the thing. The image here
photoshopped her mouth smaller and it made a huge difference.
If she was just slightly more attractive, her race wouldn't have mattered as much.
The left side of her face having a tattoo also made it more oval and softened it up, which helped.
Yeah, I was wondering, what's up with that?
She's not absolutely disgusting, but clearly below the level of attractiveness required to be a lead in a big Hollywood production. I'm sure a white woman couldn't look like that.
Is this just attractive to black people and that's why I don't get it?
younger actress version of picrel