Why are all dragons in modern media actually wyverns? Why can't we have real dragons for once?

Why are all dragons in modern media actually wyverns? Why can't we have real dragons for once? It's like asking for a unicorn and getting a rhino

  1. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    Sick of wing cucks. Wrym chads rise up.

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      Drakes are where it's at

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      Where my Glaurung chads at?

      • 1 week ago
        Anonymous

        I love wyrms that cause accidental incest

  2. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    Animating those extra legs is too expensive for the poo in loo interns they hire.

  3. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    what's the difference between dragons and wyverns, again? 4 feet vs 2?

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      dragons have four legs and two wings
      wyverns have two legs and two wing-legs

      • 1 week ago
        Anonymous

        what would it be called if it had no legs, 2 wings?

        • 1 week ago
          Anonymous

          Lieutenant Dan

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      Dragons are insects.
      Wyverns are mammals.

      • 1 week ago
        Anonymous

        both are reptiles, retard

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      Nothing really, it's dependant on the setting. Autists are just really fixated on British heraldry rules from centuries ago for some reason, probably because it offers them lots of opportunities to go "ACKHTUALLY"

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      This is an important question and worth knowing when one of either come swooping down from high and starts eating people.

      >Its a fucking Dragon!!
      >No its not its an.. ACK

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      Dragons breathe fire (or sometimes other 'elemental' attributes)

      Wyverns are venomous, have no 'Dragonbreath'.

  4. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    It's the movie reign of fire that changed dragon design in the west

  5. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    Well, what defines a dragon as an actual "dragon," lads?

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      what would it be called if it had no legs, 2 wings?

      • 1 week ago
        Anonymous

        wow, noice. saved

      • 1 week ago
        Anonymous

        https://i.imgur.com/Sf37N4d.jpg

        Why are all dragons in modern media actually wyverns? Why can't we have real dragons for once? It's like asking for a unicorn and getting a rhino

        dragons look fucking lame dawg

      • 1 week ago
        Anonymous

        So, it would appear the Dragonheart movies got it right.

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      Aside from the leg thing you mean?
      >high intellect (much higher than humans due to nigh endless lifespan)
      >capacity for human speech
      >ability to shapeshift into a human
      >can use powerful magic in human form with ease leading some to live double lives as a great sorcerer
      >breath can be attuned to different elements not just fire
      >hoard gold and other valuables
      Those are all the ones I can name off the top of my head.

      • 1 week ago
        Anonymous

        None of those outside of the last are widespread

        • 1 week ago
          Anonymous

          shapeshifting dragons is very medieval, not really seen in fantasy these days. good thing to remember is the dragon is also a metaphor for the devil i.e ultimate evil not just some monster, its also why the dragon is seen as the ultimate/highest monster

  6. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    one looks like a bat, the other like a dog.
    meh, I love both of them because I. a dragonfag

  7. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    Somebody didn't watch Pete's dragon.

  8. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    "Real" dragons makes no fucking sense, evolution wise.

  9. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    >fictionally accurate dragons
    >scientifically accurate dinosaurs
    >biblically accurate angels
    >historically accurate neanderthals

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      accurate angels
      ftfy. None of those retards seems to have ever read the bible

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      >biblically accurate tanks

      • 1 week ago
        Anonymous

        You got the money grabber saved as well?

        • 1 week ago
          Anonymous

          Nope. Only the lightsaber armor, the bone goblin one, and the frog raider.

          • 1 week ago
            Anonymous
  10. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    >mogs your dragon
    nothen personnel, kid

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      >still no news besides the announcement
      please capcom I'm dying

      • 1 week ago
        Anonymous

        any day now

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      Like all Capcom games, DD is written like crap, yet somehow, everything involving Grigori is beyond excellent.
      His gravitas, vocabulary and presentation are all phenomenal.
      He's really mogs all dragons, and basically all villains that are supposed to be great beasts

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      based

      • 1 week ago
        Anonymous

        Was kinda of a disappointment
        Granted I only fought him for curiosity, but he's just so thoroughly mogged by Daemon and Bitterback as end game content

  11. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    All these kinds of arguments just remind me of that guy on here a few years ago who would pop up in It threads and insist that It was a drider and not just a regular giant spider.

  12. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    all wyverns are dragons
    not all dragons are wyverns

  13. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    >noooooo these dragons aren't realistic

  14. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    Wyverns make more sense from a humanoid perspective and easier to animate.

  15. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    I see it as a question about if they're just wild animals or if they're fully fledged higher-class magical beings
    To me Wyverns can be both, but work best as animals like in ASOIAF because it feels more realistic to how a dragon would function in a more down to earth setting, while actual Dragons work best as these impossible magical beings with ancient knowledge
    idk, might be saying something retarded tho

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      urrite
      wyverns are like birds in their anatomy, which is more realistic
      there's no animal on earth like a dragon

  16. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    Based autist has strong feelings on how many legs a dragon has

    Dinosaurs with feathers really pisses you off doesn't it

  17. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    dragonfags are the most annoying retards on internet

  18. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    "Real" dragon makes no sense anatomy wise, there's no way he could realistically flap those wings and fly

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      you have no imagination and are retarded

      • 1 week ago
        Anonymous

        They'd need different back anatomy to function, dummy, so they wouldn't be pictured like you want them to -- flying horses.

        • 1 week ago
          Anonymous

          so you admit that they could work?
          I accept your concession

          • 1 week ago
            Anonymous

            Anything can work if you give them a supporting structure, but then they aren't pictured like so:

            [...]

            • 1 week ago
              Anonymous

              that wasn't the argument though now was it? why are you so desperately trying to change the argument to protect your fragile ego? you lost, you got btfo in fact, accept it and move on with your life, maybe grow as a person
              acting childish and throwing a temper tantrum is embarrassing

          • 1 week ago
            Anonymous

            not without magic, your first problem is that wings on vertebrates are just limbs, and no large vertebrate has six limbs, secondly the wings are too small, as weight increases the necessary square footage of the wings increase exponentially, Quetzalcoatlus is probably the largest animal to ever fly and estimates for it's weight max out around 550lbs. And finally there's no set of muscles on a Dragon's frame that could work the wings, on a bat/bird/pterosaur build the chest muscles that would normally control the arms power them, but a Dragon somehow has to have musculature for both

            • 1 week ago
              Anonymous

              see

              [...]
              why not? dragons are completely fine with the correct internal structure
              give them ballast tanks of hydrogen for lift, then the wings serve mainly for steering, then some metal catalyst in their mouth for turning oxygen+hydrogen into napalm for breathing fire
              it's pretty simple really, you guys are just creatively bankrupt drooling retards with no inner monologue

            • 1 week ago
              Anonymous

              >Quetzalcoatlus is probably the largest animal to ever fly and estimates for it's weight max out around 550lbs.
              If he's the largest animal to fly, why is he so bummed bros?

            • 1 week ago
              Anonymous

              Some old cartoon explained that dragons are able to fly and breathe fire because they're filled with gas that's lighter than air. Or you can just accept that magic shit is magic and don't think about it so hard.

              • 1 week ago
                Anonymous

                The flight of dragons

            • 1 week ago
              Anonymous

              I like to imagine that 100 million years in the future these lizards became capable of self powered flight and they invented some time travel technology and when they traveled back in time they became the dragons of legend.

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      Realistically, a dragon as most people want it would not function no matter how many limbs it has.

      • 1 week ago
        Anonymous

        Realistically a dragon would just be a large bird that breaths fire. It wouldn't weigh multiple tons like dragons in media usually do.

        • 1 week ago
          Anonymous

          Exactly. Which, of course makes the pursuit of true realism with a fantastical creature like a dragon a false ideal to strive for. Make it as cool as possible and disregard everything else.

      • 1 week ago
        Anonymous

        Realistically a dragon would just be a large bird that breaths fire. It wouldn't weigh multiple tons like dragons in media usually do.

        why not? dragons are completely fine with the correct internal structure
        give them ballast tanks of hydrogen for lift, then the wings serve mainly for steering, then some metal catalyst in their mouth for turning oxygen+hydrogen into napalm for breathing fire
        it's pretty simple really, you guys are just creatively bankrupt drooling retards with no inner monologue

        • 1 week ago
          Anonymous

          hydrogen ballast tanks in their lungs for extra lift
          gg ez no re

          It takes 1000 cubic feet of Hydrogen to lift 68lbs. Nice try but unless these sacs are the size of blimps they aren't doing fucking anything

          • 1 week ago
            Anonymous

            at sea level, what if they live in the mountains?
            you keep getting btfo and proving you have literally no imagination, just give up lol

            • 1 week ago
              Anonymous

              A mile above sea level 1000 cubic feet of hydrogen can lift about double that, 136 pounds. So a mile above sea level you can have flying dragons approximately the weight of a human child. Congrats?

              • 1 week ago
                Anonymous

                >136 pounds
                >weight of a human child
                amerimutt moment

              • 1 week ago
                Anonymous

                That's a big fucking child

              • 1 week ago
                Anonymous

                I was more referring to like teenager, i remember being around 140 when i entered high school, that's why i went with that.

  19. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    >this standard for a fictional creature is more authoritative than THIS standard

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      >super mario 1564

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      English White vs Welsh Red dragons, 15th century

      • 1 week ago
        Anonymous

        almost like there's no real standard and artists have been drawing dragons however they want for centuries

        • 1 week ago
          Anonymous

          this was fixed in 1977 with the publication of the cannon
          2 legged dragons after this come from normies sloppy strip mining of something they don't understand or care about

      • 1 week ago
        Anonymous

        English White dragon on shield from the Bayeux Tapestry, 11th century

        • 1 week ago
          Anonymous

          almost like there's no real standard and artists have been drawing dragons however they want for centuries

          yeah it jumps back and forth between 2 and 4 legs, iirc its form the saxons as they moved into Britain it merged from a worm with wings into 2 legs and later 4 legs, with 4 being the most common later on due to the Welsh flag being standardized starting around the end of the war of the Roeses

          • 1 week ago
            Anonymous

            >on due to the Welsh flag being standardized starting around the end of the war of the Roeses
            banner from the Battle of Bosworth Field 1495

  20. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    Shut up nerd. It's the same fucking thing.

  21. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    Reminder that the meme of pedantry over dragons vs. wyverns doesn't come from people who actually read a lot of fantasy lit. If you did you'd be in the habit of resetting your understanding of what these made up creatures are with every world. Sometimes even the same author will be inconsistent. Fantasy isn't about rigid rules or categorizations.

    This comes 100% from people whose main exposure to fantasy is autistically min-maxxing in videogames. Calling the dragon a wyvern or vice versa triggers them because they think it's very very important for the genre that when a sword deals +20% damage to "wyverns" it doesn't deal extra damage to "dragons" because that'd be overpowered and would lead to a stale meta.

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      The whole point of the naming was to distinguish the visual design, nothing more nothing less.

  22. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    Hollywood is filled with hacks

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      >they ask for Asian dragon
      >they get Asian dragon
      >"why no GoT?"
      some people, man

  23. 1 week ago
    Anonymous
  24. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    >Why are all dragons in modern media actually wyverns?
    In what setting? Cause if I'm calling the giant gila monster that was Galurung a dragon I can call any fucking lizard that breaths fire a dragon if I damn well please. They aren't wyverns, they're dragons. If some moron gay obscure setting no one gives a fuck about makes the distinction then they are irrelevant.

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      Morgoth
      >has roughly 1000 years in total to breed monsters
      >manages to make dragons and later absurdly large winged dragons that nearly overcome the gods themselves
      Sauron
      >has 6000 years to breed monsters
      >finally manages to make trolls that don't turn to stone in sunlight

      • 1 week ago
        Anonymous

        Sharon is good at other things

      • 1 week ago
        Anonymous

        >1000
        He actually had roughly 50k years, anon.
        From the moment he landed in Arda to his demise approximately 50k years had passed.
        The years of the trees and before that aren't counted in human years, but in Valinor years, which are longer.

  25. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    wyverns actually look like a real animal. 6 limbed "dragons" look like floating lizards with wings in the background while in flight

  26. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    >craps all over your gay nomenclature
    Nothing personal kid

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      >blocks your path

  27. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    >Its reptillian
    >Has a tail
    >Lizard/dinosaur face filled with sharp teeth
    >Has wings
    Its a fucking dragon, gtfo with your gay wyvern shit

  28. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    Vertebrates, apart from fish, generally have four limbs, so it would stand to reason that a dragon would also have four limbs. But then why aren't we talking about why every dragon, even the so called "realistic" wyvern based ones have wings that are too small to lift their body? Remember that little thing called the square-cube law? Lift comes from wing area, and must overcome weight. Double a flying animal's size and its wings get four times as big, but its weight increases to eight times as heavy. So the wings must get disproportionally larger to lift it. This is why that reasoning is retarded, they only even halfass their excuse. The fact is a creature like a dragon, whether it has 4 limbs or six could not exist, and that isn't even bringing up the ability to breathe fire or tank damage while having the build needed to fly. A realistic dragon would be small, dumb, and frail.

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      hydrogen ballast tanks in their lungs for extra lift
      gg ez no re

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      they are magic. that's why 6 limbs are important. to show they aren't natural. 4 limbed dragons are cringe.

      • 1 week ago
        Anonymous

        This really depends on the setting. There are setting in which Dragons aren't natural, and settings in which they are more natural than you

      • 1 week ago
        Anonymous

        This, return to greatness.

        • 1 week ago
          Anonymous

          beautiful pic

      • 1 week ago
        Anonymous

        Its gonna look like a man in a suit

  29. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    >wyverns
    >no giant poison spike on their tail
    So you dont know what a dragon OR a wyvern is?

  30. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    The only acceptable answer to "why four-limbed dragons" is aesthetic preference. As soon as you try to drag real world biology into it, you've gone full retard.

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      >As soon as you try to drag real world biology into it, you've gone full retard.
      wait til you find out about Dinosaurs

  31. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    >real dragons have four legs
    According to who? I'm pretty sure stories of dragons predate these autistic rpg definitions.

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      It's not even from RPGs. Even in DnD True Dragons are more characterized by being sapient being of great intelligence and having innate magic more than by the number of arts.

  32. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    Because Dragonheart was funded by a bunch of crazy Italians and they wanted a true medieval dragon.

    They're mostly wyverns because Dragonslayer (1981) had one and because the design was so good that's usually what people would go to for inspiration (including Dragonheart even though it is not a wyvern).

  33. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    Skyrim and GoT ruined the way people see dragons.

  34. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    Dragons look dumb, like a dog with wings, that's why.

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      What the fuck is wrong with that, have you ever seen what a comodo dragon looks like?

      • 1 week ago
        Anonymous

        goofy and floppy

  35. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    Would you guys fuck a dragon?

  36. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    the lizardmen who rule our society fear the mighty dragon and thus subvert our memory of it by filling televison and film with degenerated wyverns. when our subconscious minds call out in the dreamscape to be saved by our glorious dragon ancestors, the dragon spirit can not hear us because we dream of the hated wyvern.

    t. Cinemaphile

  37. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    Not quite on topic but very cute: https://www.dragonandme.com

  38. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    Well unicorns are believed to actually be one horned rhinos in the myths.

    source: The secret teachings of all ages by Manly P. Hall.

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