Why are older movies so much more grand, majestic, and elegant?

Why are older movies so much more grand, majestic, and elegant? The 50's-early 60s is a whole other league from anything that came after.

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  1. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    Well, there's the old Hollywood, and there's the international co-productions of the 60s and 70s. Epics since have been rare and were replaced by commercial cinema and superhero movies you see today.

  2. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    Because back then with set design, you had to go balls out to make a scene look grand but now computers do everything .

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      You will rarely films made like this now.

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        I bet like 20 Russians died just making that overhead spiral calvary shot at the end. That is commitment

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          The death of one man is a tragedy. The death of a million is an Oscar nomination.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      ?t=852

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        Underrated ridley scott kino.

  3. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    The awe of the people making it surely. Everyone is desensitized especially the staff. I pity them

  4. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    this is my favorite version
    in answer to your question, the WORLD was like that. Or at least, it had been like that in living memory.
    Suppose for a moment that anticolonial people are correct and the world is a zero sum game of resources, where some take and some are deprived. Even using that cynical model, it's easy to see that European civilization reached a pinnacle of glory and refinement, while the rest of the world was primitive by comparison. Naturally, "recombining" the two worlds will drag down the wealthy one while elevating the lesser, as we see today. That's assuming you believe in the exploitation theory of history. If not, then the changes we've made may well have terrible consequences in the long run.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      If zero sum was true, we’d still be hunter gathers. Of course we all gain, as seen through the thousands of years of progress we made.

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        Exactly. Although people are fairly similar, culture is unique, irreplaceable. We are more than capable of falling from grace without an actual zeitgeist worth the neurons it's printed on.

  5. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    >50s-60s
    dressing and speaking well was still considered desirable then.
    now people dress like Spiderman Homecoming.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      Could you elaborate on that "people dress like Spiderman homecoming" statement, or post some examples of what you mean, I agree that fashion trends are shit these days but I cannot understand what dressing like Spiderman homecoming means

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        I think hat he means is that people dress like they are going to a cosplay convention as opposed to dressing your best.

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        I think hat he means is that people dress like they are going to a cosplay convention as opposed to dressing your best.

        I wear this exact model of watch and also I am the lord in which all women worship me as God.

  6. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    Communists hadn’t taken over Hollywood yet. The studios policed themselves through the Hayes Code to make movies with nationalist and traditional values.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      I would unironically love a purge of hollywood, and I hate censorship and big government

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      You didn't understand the OP.

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        I think he understood it perfectly well, subversion is the death of art.

  7. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    I just watched this the other week while in the middle of my Brando deep dive. This, The Wild One, and Sayonara are among my favorites so far. On the Waterfront is disgustingly overrated though. I had expected much more than what i got.

  8. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    I'm about to watch the 1935 version with Clark Gable. I'll be back to say if it's good.

  9. 1 year ago
    https://boards.4channel.org/mlp/

    It's the shift away from "fantasy" and towards "realistic". Used to be you saw a movie because you wanted to be swept up in a grand story and adventure. Everything is exaggerated and unrealistic, "grand", "elegant" etc, it's how people imagine life can be in these scenarios rather than how it actually is.

    Nowadays audiences have turned against that style of cinema, they want realistic dialogue, recognizable settings, and for even their greatest of heroes to have relatable flaws and weaknesses. Compare Craig's Bond to Connery's, earlier in the series would you have gotten a whole scene talking about how old and weak the hero is, or how bitter and traumatized by his past he's become? No, he's just a charismatic hero who can do no wrong, even when he makes mistakes he fixes them right away, and is always the "good guy".

  10. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    Watch civilization from 1970, a BBC documentary-series by Kenneth Clarke. The conclusion is: culture. Western Society has encouraged lazyness and masswide hedonism, let it loose. Knowledge, honesty, bravery, discipline, solidarity have are more or less frown upon in favour for individual excellence, the carpe diem/yolo-ideology. The loneliness among the people today is the evidence of the failure of that line of thought.

    • 1 year ago
      https://boards.4channel.org/mlp/

      >Western Society has encouraged lazyness and masswide hedonism
      Couldn't be more incorrect, western society is capitalist and encourages working and grinding and earning until increasingly older ages, with free time and pleasure permitted conditionally and reluctantly. Counter-culture is often in favor of freedom and pleasure, but counter-culture is by definition the opposite of mainstream society.

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        Counter-culture is by definition part of mainstream society, being controlled opposition i.e. the safe sanitized way to "rebel".

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          Before it was a psyop it was just degenerate weirdos that couldn't live in society. Now counterculture doesn't even exist but the values of the hippies are predominant.

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          you have internet in supermax, Ted?

  11. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    >fricking teenaged pacific islanders is...LE BAD

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      >"Mutany On The Bounty"
      Was this a book? It's always been in my headspace because as a kid I remember singing,
      >"Mutiny on the bounty and a bottle of rum ho, ho, ho!"
      Could that be from Garfield Halloween Special? Maybe Cabin Boy?

      From the poster, it looks like Brando led an uprising on a ship cause he and his deviant friends wanted to stay on an island forever and frick all the locals. So they rebelled against their Captain.
      Am I close?

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        >From the poster, it looks like Brando led an uprising on a ship cause he and his deviant friends wanted to stay on an island forever and frick all the locals. So they rebelled against their Captain.
        >Am I close?
        Spot on. The mutiny on the Bounty is an actual historical occurance, so it is not strange that you should have been aware of it as a boy. Captain Bligh is portrayed as a sadistic, cruel and incompetent captain in the film, which is not the case historically. In fact, he wasnt even a captain! He was only a lieutenant at the time. He later ended up as governor of Australia, by the way.

        For extra laughs, the mutineers made their way to the uninhabitated Pitcairn Island, and ALL of the current day inhabitants of that island are descendants of the mutineers and their polynesian prostitutes/brides. Also, there are rumors that the inhabitants of Pitcairn practice systematic pedophilia.

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          Interesting thanks. I'm about to watch here in a few.

          I also remembered that it's a Beastie Boys song (Ryhmin & Stealin). They actually rap about the historical event. Also, in their Sabotage video, I learned not to trust cops named "Vic". Prepared me for "The Shield" tv series.

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          >He later ended up as governor of Australia, by the way.
          You left out the funniest part: he was deposed by the colonial marine corps in Australia's first and only military coup. If you read into it a little though it seems he was actually a pretty fair governor and was deposed simply for pissing off some kinda shady rich guys in the early days of the colony. He was later exonerated by the courts. Dude seems to have gotten an unfairly bad rap by history.

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            I forgot about that part, thanks anon. Yea he was also cleared of all charges by the court martial when he returned to the UK after losing the Bounty.
            My guess is that he had somewhat of an abrasive personality and had a tough time making friends, while at the same time being ambitious. That's why people seem to be so quick to put blame on his shoulders

            • 1 year ago
              Anonymous

              He also served under Nelson at Copenhagen and was spoken highly of by him.
              Screw the Bounty novies, Bligh needs a full biopic.

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                He really does, he's been treated very poorly by the entertainment industry. He navigated 6500 km in an open launch boat to safety after the mutiny. That's some pretty damn good seamanship right there. And keeping the spirit up with the men, amazing leadership.

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          >there are rumors
          homie they had enough court cases that involved all the men on the island that the government had to step in and ban kids from the island. They're a bit beyond rumours.

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            Fair enough, I hadn't read into it for a bunch of years. Good to hear they have banned kids from visiting, but not so good for the children still living there...

            • 1 year ago
              Anonymous

              Last thing I read made it seem like there wasn't actually any kids left. There's like 40 people living there and they're all middle-aged at this point and bemoaning the fact that younger people "abandoned their history/culture" and moved to the mainland where there's actual jobs and things to do beyond fricking each other's kids. I think they all have their internet monitored as well, so they can't get their fix online.

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                Lol so effectively it's a prison colony
                KEK
                imagine this being your legacy. Fletcher Christian, you suck monkey dick in hell.

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                wtf why isn't DEY CULCHAH celebrated

  12. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    they had some respect for the customer and didn't realize the power of shilling

  13. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    Never saw the Marlon Brando version but just wanted to say the 80's version is gigakino

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      It's more historically accurate as well in how it treats Bligh.

  14. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    reminder this got brutally mogged by the vastly superior Lawrence of Arabia
    all those guys had to put up with Marlon Brando's bullshit and it was all for nothing

  15. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    Friendly reminder that the descendants of the mutineers are all pedos and children aren't even allowed to visit the island any more, without special written permission from the British government. That's what you get when you mutiny against your captain... A pedo island.

  16. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    In the 1935 version Bligh is portrayed as sadistic, but brilliant captain. But yeah, the mutineers are the good guys.

    The biggest problem today is overuse of CGI. Everyone got really lazy, so everything is done on a green screen with CGI. I'm afraid that the magic of old Hollywood is gone forever.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      Master and Commander was truly the last Hurrah for proper naval Kino.

  17. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    Because of how society were back then

  18. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    >In 2004, charges were laid against seven men living on Pitcairn and six living abroad. This accounted for nearly a third of the male population, and half of the island's adult males. After extensive trials, most of the men were convicted, some with multiple counts of sexual encounters with children.[32] On 25 October 2004, six men were convicted, including Steve Christian, the island's mayor at the time.[33][34][35]
    >In 2016, Mike Warren, Pitcairn mayor from 2008 to 2013, was convicted and sentenced to 20 months imprisonment for possession of child pornography.[40][41]
    lol

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      straight up bizarre that that place exists
      earth is seriously kino sometimes

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      They use their mayor like a sacrifice to the pedo gods, taking the blame for their shared computer every time they end up downloading CP from a honeypot. He gets to boss people around and get paid for doing nothing but he always knows that next time it's his turn to go to jail.

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        >their shared computer
        >shared
        They have ONE computer there with internet access? And they have to share it?
        LOL
        LMAO even
        my fricking sides

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          I guarantee you they all watch child porn together. This is their mayor btw

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            I envision it like in Gilmore Girls where they have a "cinema" that's just run out in a regular home and people bring popcorn and snacks from home and sit around on regular couches and chairs. Except they're all naked.

            • 1 year ago
              Anonymous

              They're fricking weirdos, I lived with some of them off the Island. They're old, gossiping, nosy, selfish, entitled people. I couldn't imagine the hell of being stuck on an island with them all.

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                Are they white or more like polynesian?

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                They're more like Maoris. Imagine Maoris crossed with perverts.

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                ew

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            Whoa, I didn't expect him to be so white.

            • 1 year ago
              Anonymous

              Yeah, I thought they all looked like Polynesian-white mutts, but this guy looks pretty white.

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                They’re descended from an Irish sailor who was literally cannibalized after raping a kid fyi

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                >descended from an Irish sailor
                Well, him and his polynesian prostitute/bride/slave, yes. And presumably, not very many white women would want to move there, so I'm guessing they kept kidnapping polynesians whenever they needed women.

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                The Polynesians literally cannibalized the dude because he was a child molester.

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                It seems that particular trait had already been firmly established in the bloodline by the time they ate him, since like 100% of the men living on the island today are kiddie diddlers and pedophiles.

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            >And when I haver, hey I know I'm gonna be
            >I'm gonna be the man who's havering to you

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      It would be a badass tv show idea if all the Pitcairn inhabitants were dropped nude on North Sentinel Island and they hosted a battle to the death.

  19. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    >There is one government-sponsored satellite Internet connection, with networking provided to the inhabitants of the island. Pitcairn's country code top-level domain is .pn. Residents pay NZ$50 (about £26) for 25 GB of data per month.[114] In 2012, a single 1 Mbit/s link installed provided the islanders with an Internet connection, the 1 Mbit/s was shared across all families on the island. By December 2017, the British Government implemented a 4G LTE mobile network in Adamstown with shared speeds of 5 Mbit/s across all islanders.[115]

  20. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    No CGI, everything had to be real.

  21. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    Equality, and democracy for that matter, tends to pull the quality of things down.
    For that reason we can already see how most media has peaked. 19th century for literature. Movies and music in the 1960s. Video games in the 2000’s. We’re headed towards the nadir of Western civilization.

  22. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    fricking 1914 movies had better set design than cringy capeshit nonsense

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