Why did 2009-2015 movies have such an optimistic vibe while 2016-2023 has such a depressing fricked up moronic vibe?
Why did 2009-2015 movies have such an optimistic vibe while 2016-2023 has such a depressing fricked up retarded vibe?
Why did 2009-2015 movies have such an optimistic vibe while 2016-2023 has such a depressing fricked up moronic vibe?
They didn't. You were just younger. /thread
>THINGS WERE ALWAYS BAD, CHUD
>EVERYBODY WAS ALWAYS DEPRESSED AND MISERABLE 24/7
>THERE WAS NEVER A GOOD TIME TO BE ALIVE IN ALL OF HUMAN HISTORY
Why do shills force this narrative? I'm not a zoomer. I actually lived and experienced what things were like in the late 2000s and early 2010s. It was objectively better compared to how things are now.
>grew up in the late 2000s and early 2010s
>not a zoomer
He's probably millennial, since this generation grew up quiet differently from others
The zoomer generation begins in like 1997. They don't remember shit about the 2000s, and they don't really understand what life was like in the early 2010s either cause most of them were still pre-teens then.
>The zoomer generation begins in like 1997
Exactly, which means 2002 onwards is the zoomer era since that's when their childhoods would have started.
>they don't really understand what life was like in the early 2010s either cause most of them were still pre-teens then
>implying preteens aren't already buying music and going to the movies on their own
Lmao, millennials must have been moronic when they were preteens. Sorry you never got to party rock as a teen.
>They don't remember shit about the 2000s
99 zillennials grew up in that decade, my man.
Based. Millennials and zoomers will never understand coming home from school and playing some Pokemon Emerald while sipping on a cold one.
No, when someone says "growing up" it refers to the decade between age 10 and age 20. You were literally shitting your pants in the early 2000's, it's not your decade and never will be.
I didn't claim to grow up in the very early 2000s. I grew up in 2003-2012. That was my era. Shit was cash. Zoomies will never understand.
It's not your era, 2003 is millennial territory 100%. We were becoming teenagers and learning formative lifelong lessons.
2003 is definitely millennial territory in terms of adolescence, but my earliest memories are from when I was 4, and I was watching Finding Nemo in the theaters, so I have some claim to the children's stuff that came out then. My elementary school era was the mid-late 00s and my tween era was the late 00s-early 10s. In any case, I'm a 2000s/early 2010s kid.
Finding Nemo was more of a young adult movie than a children's movie, ages 9-13. You were a literal baby then.
It's a fricking Pixar movie about talking fish. No one's gonna split hairs about what exact age a child should watch it. As far as most people are concerned, it's for babies, which is probably why my parents took me to see it. Also 4 years old isn't a baby, it's not even a toddler anymore, it's the earliest year most people's childhoods start, as that is the first year most people have memories.
You'll have maybe two vivid memories from when you were 4 if you're lucky and only if you never did alcohol or weed. I got to experience Finding Nemo as a fully sentient teenager, my memories of that era are more relevant and detailed than yours.
>You'll have maybe two vivid memories from when you were 4 if you're lucky
Cannot confirm. I remember a good deal of being 4. Not as much as the rest of my childhood obviously but definitely more than "two vivid memories."
Most people are watching kid's movies when they're 4. Hell, this guy
https://archive.4plebs.org/tv/thread/181939270/#q181939428
says he watched ROBOCOP when he was 4 and that's as far from a kid's movie as you can get. It's not unusual for 4 year olds to watch animated Pixar movies.
Not that guy but how much memories you have from childhood really varies on a person. I've drunk plenty of alcohol and i have a pretty straightforward timeline of memories since i was 3 years old, while some struggle to remember anything since they were 10. Humans can be quite different sometimes.
>Longer and variable internet engagement
>Shut in society
>Mass food changes
>Distorted life perspectives due to social engineering through media in early age, purposeful or not
it’s called literal gaslighting
like your parents telling you you weren’t happy with your last school or friends and that you need to stop being spoiled
Sometimes I think they might be literal trigger bots
Like, no one sane can actually think that wanting a better life for everyone is anything but natural
>It was objectively better compared to how things are now.
you are stupid. some people had terrible lives back then.
every human ever is inevitably with limited senses.
>you are stupid. some people had terrible lives back then.
I'm not talking on an individual level. Of course every time in history will be shitty for somebody, somewhere. You could be living in a historic golden age but if you're unlucky enough to become homeless or get raped or some shit, of course you'll remember it as a bad time.
But I'm talking about societal factors. Culturally, economically, psychologically, spiritually, we were better off in EVERY way in the 2000s/early 2010s compared to now.
the reddit cope
This. Times are better than ever, you’re just being nostalgic. The reason things even seem miserable to you is actually a good thing because it means things are going so well for you that you actually have the time and energy to be analytical about the world around you. This would not have been a luxury you would have had years ago in a more conservative, business oriented, oppressive America.
>This. Times are better than ever
How?
List me actual, concrete, identifiable reasons why life is better in 2023 than it was in, say, 2013.
List specific things that you think are better now than they were a decade+ ago.
Cancer detection and treatment, computer technology and technology in general, less global terrorism, better handling of pandemics and other global disease outbreaks, better access to education, more entertainment available than anyone can handle, and on and on. You should seek medical help if you think things are bad right now. We just dodged a 2008 style global financial crisis because we were more prepared than ever for it. The mentally ill doomers are actually shocked and disappointed jowly smoothly the crisis was averted. You’re spoiled by how good things are. Your paper cuts of 2023 would have been lost limbs a decade ago.
Shalom. I’ll stop noticing.
>Cancer detection and treatment
I don't know enough about this sort of thing so I'll take your word for it.
>computer technology and technology in general
Nope. Computers and the internet were better in functionality terms 10 years ago. All that's changed is shit has become more accessible to normalgays, to the detriment of those of us who were already using all this shit pre-2012.
>less global terrorism
All that's happened is all the Islamist goons that were active a few years ago and in the 2000s have fizzled out. But we've still got moronic amounts of mass shootings, urban crime, and general breakdowns in law and order, for various reasons.
>better handling of pandemics and other global disease outbreaks
2020 and 2021 were actual fricking hell to live through. If forced lockdowns and mask mandates are "better handling of pandemics" then I'd rather go back to how we did things in the 2000s.
>more entertainment available than anyone can handle
Yeah and 90% of it is utter fricking dogshit. TV, movies, video games, music, sports, literally all of it is in an utterly dire state now compared to how things were even just 10 or 15 years ago. Most of the time when people talk about entertainment being accessible they're just talking about streaming services having a bunch of old shit from the 2000s and earlier available to watch/listen to. And even then, a lot of it is still dogshit because they'll end up censoring or removing certain episodes because it was deemed that somehow a joke that was perfectly acceptable in 2009 is now "offensive" in 2023.
i just want a normal family and community dude
>more entertainment available than anyone can handle
Muh entertainment
you literally copied this from reddit and it wasn’t even upvoted that much
I seriously cannot imagine being this delusional. How old are you?
20 and wiser beyond years
this is the liberal gaslighting i’m talking about
no timmy you wouldn’t have liked doing music in school, you probably wouldn’t make any friends anyway. now get back under the cupboard harry potter it’s time to give Black folk free money for raping babies
What in the actual frick are you talking about? You’re telling me that people in the 50s lived worse lives than now? You’re a mongoloid.
Yeah dude, everyone loves being priced out of home ownership and seeing the cost of living rise by 10% every year while their paycheck only increases by 4-5%. Things have never been better
The times literally aren't better. Billie Eilish and her popularity is a fricking joke compared to Lady Gaga, Katy Perry or early 00's pop stars. If you go to a club, they are still playing the same songs as they did in 2013 because nobody is creating actually good new music. Times are objectively worse.
Billie Eilish is just as bad as Katy Perry. Did you seriously try to put Katy Perry above her? She was fricking terrible! I lost faith in the music industry in 2009 when that god-awful song Tik Tok came out.
he’s saying mainstream popularity isn’t really a real thing anymore
replying to you to tell you youre full of shit lib gaslight gay
You're just ignorant. Homes were more affordable back then. Consumer products were of better quality. Nowadays, most people are priced out of homes and quality of everything has dropped noticeably.
>Homes were more affordable back then
yes, because we had the biggest housing market crash in the history of humans.
you fricking moron.
Capitalism bad
Very true. The people who are disagreeing are moronic young people.
>things were always bad
>that is why movies are just being remade
>fashion is just morons wanting to dress like people 30 years ago
Unironically haven’t been sober since 9/11
Then why does every millennial and gen-x'er say those times were better? Rose-tinted glasses perhaps?
No. The world post 2013 is really an endless cascade of shit that gets gradually worse each following year. I wish I could hook my brain up to a supercomputer that would simulate the 90's and 2000's and let me live through those years as a teenager and young adult, and when the calendars show 2014, the simulation would go back to 1995.
Boomers say the 60s we're better too. Not because they necessarily were, but because they were young then.
trump happened
>If you're a Gen-Xer the world ended in 2001
>if you're a millenial the world ended in 2008
>if you're a zennial the world ended in 2016
>if you're gen Z the world ended in 2020
2001 and 2020 are pretty reasonable the rest feel arbitrary
2008
>iPhone ends the 00's (which themselves were just an extension of the 90's until 9/11) and creates a totally diferrent phone society
>global recession
>MEMEbola
>obamer inderectly raises racial tensions
>reccesion leads to occupy w-ACK being hijacked by the artificial identity politics "movement"
and most important of all for us
>our home the internet is soon to be irreversibly changed beyond recognition by iphone babbys
Ebola was 2015 you moron. Swine flu was 2008/09
i dont know
all the meme diseases that only exist for a couple convinient months for politicians blend together for me
You're kind of a moron so that's not surpring
gulp
The 2008 GFC was a world changing event. We never really recovered. Much more so than 9/11 or the pandemic
>9/11 killed morale
>social media/smart phones killed humanity
>08 crash destroyed any financial wealth
>>9/11 killed morale
No, it was the opposite. The early/mid 2000s was the last time it was mainstream to be extremely patriotic, or nationalist even. 9/11 resulted in a "rally around the flag" effect. Morale didn't die until later in the decade when it was proven the War on Terror was a sham, was built on lies, and that it didn't even fricking work in the end anyway.
Even then though, it wasn't until the late 2010s that patriotism became completely demonised and ridiculed and started to be treated as something only "far-right" people believed in, rather than being normal.
>Morale is wanting to travel 5000 miles away to shoot brown kids for no free health care at home
Nobody viewed it like that at the time. Only insufferable commie freaks were against the Afghan war when it first started. All the normal people felt enraged by 9/11 and wanted to go frick up the terrorists.
It wasn't until Iraq that people really started to question wtf was going on and how we were benefitting from it. And even then, it took a few years for the malaise to really set in.
Just look at Bush's approval ratings to see this effect play out in real time. He went from having record high approval in late 2001/early 2002 as everyone wanted to support America and the president. To then having historic low approval ratings by the time his second term was finishing in 2007/2008.
Very vaccinated post
>Even then though, it wasn't until the late 2010s that patriotism became completely demonised and ridiculed
The surge happened in 2007-2008 bro.
America already had to relax standards and offer crazy bonuses in order to get people to join the military. I would know
The War on Terror was souring in fricking 2003 during Iraq. Most of the "gas prices rising" jokes started here
The boondocks episode mocking the war on terror released in '05.
>>9/11 killed morale
eat shit.
you could try
9/11, financial crash and prevalence of social media/smart phones, Trump election and clown world no more etiquette, Covid
Each of those dates are in fact the world falling apart more and more. If you’re too young to have experienced the world before each event than they each seem like the moment “it all got worse” but no one is wrong here, each of those events were infact when things got worse than they were before.
The biggest one for me is smart phones and social media. People kinda lived in blissful ignorance before that
CHADenial here. World ended in 2007. Nothing good has been made after 2007, it was the downfall of the internet, Cinemaphile getting fricked in the ass and ruined forever, just a complete death of society. If 2007 wasn't bad enough 2012 raped the dead corpse of the world. troony shit was the nail in the coffin.
It's over.
people talk about smartphones and social media for the 07 date but the writers guild strike was just as bad, once they saw how low people's standards really were for media none of it ever recovered
not even going to go into ows
2001, 2008, and 2020 had life changing events that fricked up people's lives.
I'm millennial and my fricking world ended in 2019. 2020 to now has been shit
DRUMPF
also pic related happened and the whole world became mind broken
We've unironically had plauges, pandemics, schools teaching gay sex, and the Taliban took back Afghanistan.
All we're missing is WW3
are we?
We're already in ww3. It's not like ww3 is going to be officially declared. It's going to be after the fact that we name in that and put a start and end date on it.
it's almost like you got the joke
Literally all of these things in pic related happened.
and the gays are barely even getting married
It was never about actually getting married. These people are too smart to be happy and will always chase that next thing that will make themselves surely happy, kind like /misc/ with their trad society.
Gay Marriage Legalized
This, wich open the door to the troony lunacy, also Obama justifying trayvon martin
1009-2015 movies were still overwhelmingly made by genXers and boomers chosen mostly on the basis of their work and talent. Afterwards, inept millennial and zoomers tryhards, often diversity hires, started making movies and it's been downhill since.
best post itt
How many of these fricking threads do we need?
>one two three fooour five six aaaand seven
Explain to me how things are better in the 2020s compared to the early 2010s or 2000s, then. What has improved? Name specific things.
As a teen in the early 2010's it didn't feel very optimistic to me, it felt pretty aimless and like young people didn't really have anything to believe in, so it became a lot of "Frick it man life's a party let's get fricked up".
>it felt pretty aimless and like young people didn't really have anything to believe in, so it became a lot of "Frick it man life's a party let's get fricked up".
Even the way you describe it is superior to how things are in the 2020s.
In the 2020s young people now believe everything is hopeless, society is collapsing, and we're all going to die in 10-20 years from climate change anyway so there's no point doing anything. On top of that we have a lot of moral puritans these days who lecture everybody on why you shouldn't be allowed to do X or Y because "it's problematic". None of this was the case 10 years ago.
I think 10 years ago people were sort of anticipating this, hence 'let's party the future is going to suck.'
Which was totally reasonable since the trajectory has been headed this way for much longer than 10 years.
The "young people were thinking that everything is going to shit" is a complete revision made by alt-righters who can't see past their current political ideology. Shit was fricking awesome in 2007-2014, new cool shit was coming out all the time thanks to internet really starting to mix things up while a lot of old stuff was being perfected. Young people partied because it was more exciting than ever thanks to internet spreading and amplifying the party culture. Early 00's, now that was an aimless era in youth culture with people just trying to throw shit at wall and see what stuck. 2007-2014 had way more a of certain "path".
I've been thinking about this since that was my heyday
The one thing I can say for sure is that is when 'irony' really kicked into gear. Even normies were getting into 'irony' and 'awkwardness' then. It definitely wasn't a 'this is the best of times' type vibe
Well yeah it was also the time nerd culture was becoming mainstream, that's part of the great mixing that happened in early internet era.
Original poster of this picture here, this must be the first meme i'm creating on Cinemaphile kek. First time also that i can't post the pic because of someone else already posted it. But yeah 2007-2014 was the objective peak of human culture. The type of positivity never seen before or after. Every year new things were created. Then after 2015 we have been in hell and absolutely nothing new or interesting has been created since.
2009-2015-coming out of a recession
2016-2023-going into a recession
I also miss hipsters.
I remember like 2012 me hoping I could go back to 2005 or so when I was 12 years old. I'm 30 now and wish I could go back to 2012 to fix everything
This was a trend in music as well. Like someone else in this thread said 2009-2014 was coming out of recession, lots of songs about partying and living it up and being grateful for what you have. The song that really changed all that was royals by lorde. Now you even have a trend in movies today of trying to be more socially conscious and depict more pessimistic themes like income inequality and class struggle.
Because everything ended after 2007
Everything’s been the same since 2016 too. Same tech, same stupidity from other people and everything
Everything Everywhere All At Once (2023) was super optimistic you should give the one a try.
Internet was better too. Now it’s hard to find anything about what is posted here alot
>DOOOOOOOOOOOOOOD we are living in much better times than in the recent past
>why?
>because... uh... THE GREEN LINE WENT UP, a-and there are more products to CONSOOOM
basically its the generation of people who hated everything from before 2012 or having graduated college and landed jobs with movie studios. combined with their lack of education regarding classical literature or movies that makes for pretty bleak programming. Of their brain and our screens.
these people unironically hate stories like the odyseey. they hate the hero's journey on principle. They would rather get on their soapbox and debate the misogyny at play in "I dream of jeannie" instead of noting the jokes in that show. Whether its gone with the wind or I'm singing with the rain, these people have genuine, heartfelt contempt for these movies. Even more contemporary movies like gladiator are despised by these same people because of the berkeley infused brainwashing they underwent.
So they seek to replace the stories of old with their own. But since they can't take any cues from those evil classics they seek to destroy we're left with the solemn retelling of stories that dont offend anybody and thus dont excite anybody.
True answer: Occupy Wall Street shifting everything around to deflect blame from bankers
Galaxy-brain IQ answer: Gamergate
I think the vibe has been fixed this last year since covid ended