You're totally right, but still, the safety squint is used more often than it should be, and too many times I've welded with my eyes closed because I couldn't be fricked to reach for the visor.
t. mechanic
The "blast shield" appears to be precisely that, a shield that can be folded down to protect your eyesight from the visual effects of bright lights such as plasma explosions or flying toward a sun while still providing a small amount of normal visibility.
The Radio Play describes it thusly:
Kenobi : Here, we'll start with you wearing this flight helmet. Now, lower its blast shield into place.
Luke : With its blast shield down like this, I can hardly see
As you can see from the images below, the markings on the helmet (and indeed the prop itself) match a pilot's helmet that was edited out of a later scene and used by a female x-wing pilot. In place of the smoked plasteen blast shield, she has a yellow anti-glare eye shield. This could be evidently be removed by sliding it up into the body of the helmet.
Rebel pilot wearing matching helmet
Since the helmet is of a modern design it seems more likely that the helmet belongs to Solo rather than Obi-Wan. That said, given that it was (according to the Junior Novelisation) being stored at the "Engineering station" and given the extensive weathering on it, it certainly seems possible that Solo and Chewie were also using it for welding rather than as a pilot helmet.
The authors of the Star Wars: The Essential Guide to Warfare apparently considered including an extensive description of the use (and misuse) of the helmet blast shield in their book:
A day before the third hop, they collected our helmets and brought them back with blast shields you could flip down over your face. I’d like to meet the glit-biter that put these things together — the shield was huge, and when I flipped it down the hinge practically pushed the bridge of my nose back into my skull. They told us to keep the blast shield up until it was time to fire the charges, snap it down, then pop it back up when the flash had dissipated. They said next hop they’d wire a HUD in there, but for now it was just plastoid.
whole sagas were written about the dude running through Cloud City with an ice cream maker (revealed to be a special container for valuable metal ingots such as beskar in Mando S1)
>it totally makes sense for a helmet to have a part that completely blocks your vision
in certain situations. yes. even many versions of real world astronaut helmets have such a feature
no one ever said being a jedi was easy or safe. best them younglings learn that fact early, and if some of them don't survive their training, well then that's just dead weight that wouldn't be able to hack it as a knight
no one ever said being a jedi was easy or safe. best them younglings learn that fact early, and if some of them don't survive their training, well then that's just dead weight that wouldn't be able to hack it as a knight
Consider that Qui-Gon and all the other dead jedi who became one with the Force did not return as Force ghosts to warn the Jedi Order about Sidious but remained silent, content to let them be wiped out and all the children too. They don't care, a child's life is not precious, they believe in accepting fate or some such thing. If a youngling dies in training, so be it.
>> 7 year olds waving deadly weapons around while standing close together
i learned to shoot at 4 years old and got my first air rifle for my 5th birthday. i also trained with bows and arrows, throwing axes, and crossbows while in tiger cubs(toddler version of cubscouts/boyscouts) no one shot anyone. and we didnt even have 'the force'.
>i learned to shoot at 4 years old
you weren't doing it with another 4 year old standing near the target though which is what the Jedi kids do
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>you weren't doing it with another 4 year old standing near the target though which is what the Jedi kids do
ya but im not force sensitive. and im a real person. and star wars is a fantasy story for children.
In one of the books they're training sabres, apparently lower powered versions that can't really cut as such.
Obi-wan had a fight with another Jedi student in that book and a robot saw them or something i honestly cant remember which one.
But they had training sabres.
it was a simple helmet with a blast shield.
akin to a welding helmet.
typical stuff to have on a ship.
Now, where did you get the idea that that was a specific Jedi helmet?
why did hand have a useless helmet that blocks your view
>Why do ESLs put a space before punctuation like periods or question marks? You can spot it anywhere if you pay attention
im not that anon and im not esl, but i just dont respect grammar and language in general and leave typos and mistakes in my post to troll people. the way you retarts think anyone who doesnt type/write in perfect engrish means they are ESL tells me more about you than the supposed ESL poster.
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>Spelling and grammar are crucial for clear and effective communication. They help ensure that the intended message is understood by the recipient, reduce misunderstandings, and create a professional image. In written communication, they are fundamental building blocks of literacy and comprehension.
well good thing this is Cinemaphile and not a professional setting and my intention isnt clear and effective communication, but lulz and shitposting.
Apparently zoomers do it on purpose. I’m not sure why but I was reading a thread about stuff zoomers do that gives away that they’re zoomers and a couple people said that.
it was a simple helmet with a blast shield.
akin to a welding helmet.
typical stuff to have on a ship.
Now, where did you get the idea that that was a specific Jedi helmet?
doesn't Han explicitly say he doesn't like the empire? kind of like a drug dealer saying they don't like the police. it's just someone they will never deal with willingly
"Yes, they're remarkable machines—faster and better armored than the old AT-RTs."
"What about firepower? That ball cannon looks mean."
"I've seen a single shot punch through medium vehicle plating. That mean enough for you?"
―Piers Roddance and Ames Bunkle
Why is Han putting up with a blindfolded hayseed waving around something that can cut through the hull is a better question. These deadbeats haven't even paid in full for the trip.
I still laugh they had to make up a bullshit excuse that it le 'actually pushes large space containers around' with those prongs on the front. All because George didn't really think about how it's a freighter with barely any space for cargo and would be really shit at its job
ya a simple box freighter design like the one in andor could carry three times as much cargo for some weight class of ship and way easier to load and unload
you could even use forklift droids as opposed to millennium falcon small box by box carried in to one of the various scattered small holds /
Allow me to play devil's advocate (moron apologist).
The Falcon isn't a normal freighter, it's a smuggling ship. The design is labyrinthine and moronic on purpose to make it harder to inspect and so you can stash more space drugs in it.
The big advantages the Millennium Falcon has are for longer distances (more space for crew) and more dangerous runs (more guns and better shields). The freighter in Andor nearly got shot down by three TIE Fighters, whereas the Millennium Falcon can actively eliminate them.
Most freighters in Star Wars are part gunship due to how extensive piracy is outside the Galactic Core, but that makes them less effective as freighters.
I know george makes a lot of shit up as he goes along, but the prongs plus the off center wienerpit actually make a reasonable anount of sense for a reverse space tug that's pushing cargo
It might be inspired by that shape but it still took work by prop designers and guys like McQuarrie to turn it into a functional ship design. It's not like George designed all this shit himself. The falcon wasn't even Han's ship originally, that was the blockade runner
George Lucas might be a talentless hack but this isn't a good example of that
How do these schemes work? Does it become some sort of a reference point that everyone else is using after the book is published? What if another book comes out and says that Millienum Falcon has a different layout?
The original Millennium Falcon had a long and cylindrical shape, the complete opposite to the flat and round ship the world now knows. The problem with it was that it looked a lot like the Eagle Transporter from the TV series Space: 1999, so Lucas requested a change, telling the designers to think of a “flying hamburger” that could “sail like a sunfish”. Modelmaker Joe Johnston only had four weeks to completely redesign the Falcon, and because he didn’t want to make a “basic flying saucer”, he created the offset wienerpit, forward cargo mandibles, and rear slot for the engines – though the design is said to be roughly based on a burger with an olive-on-the-side wienerpit. >flying hamburger >sail like a sunfish >a burger with an olive-on-the-side
Some people just can't comprehend true visionary genius
Star Wars' designs are iconic and recognizable because of how silly, moronic and obviously designed for how children believe things work they are. They look neat sure, and they throw a lot of gibberish on there to pretend they're feasible, but they're some of the most ridiculous to pretend could be real. Star Trek is just as bad though.
>Star Trek is just as bad though.
nah star trek is infinitely worse at bullshit ship designs than star wars is. at least star war's most outrageous designs still have the 'rule of cool'
are you a NASApunk homie or something?
you don't want a space opera to have cool looking ships?
what an unfunny homosexualard you must be.
spaceships need to be iconic and recognizable, so you can tell what aliens it belongs to.
go back to playing StarFaild lol
> one docking ring fails, gets depressurized and blows off > no backup > you are now fricked forever and condemned to die of dehydration floating in a space coffin
> one docking ring fails, gets depressurized and blows off > no backup > you are now fricked forever and condemned to die of dehydration floating in a space coffin
They don't show either in use anyway, just that weird topside tunnel you would have to crawl through
It's abstract art. Of the good kind. In my opinion some abstract art is very good. People tend to have a more limited negative view of it due to posers and well really what drives shitty pointless "art" is criminal enterprise. It's bullshit. And some ppl fall for it.
Take a look at her to to edges, her fitted plates. Blocky. Always blocky, rectangular, raised chunks, for added durability. This visual motif is repeated even in parts of Stormtrooper armor.
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EVERY time some new wokesloppification of an old IP comes out, there's threads that criticize some aspect of the old stuff. they don't mention the new shit.
I really want to think it's genuine.
Its a standard space ship helmet with blast visor . Not a jedi training helmet
>blast visor
why dont they just close their eyes?
Why don't you just go tell welders and mechanics to "just close their eyes" instead of wearing eye protection?
You're totally right, but still, the safety squint is used more often than it should be, and too many times I've welded with my eyes closed because I couldn't be fricked to reach for the visor.
t. mechanic
Because things are very bright some times in space
>implying moron shills know anything about space
I shiggity
>blast visor
it totally makes sense for a helmet to have a part that completely blocks your vision
The "blast shield" appears to be precisely that, a shield that can be folded down to protect your eyesight from the visual effects of bright lights such as plasma explosions or flying toward a sun while still providing a small amount of normal visibility.
The Radio Play describes it thusly:
Kenobi : Here, we'll start with you wearing this flight helmet. Now, lower its blast shield into place.
Luke : With its blast shield down like this, I can hardly see
As you can see from the images below, the markings on the helmet (and indeed the prop itself) match a pilot's helmet that was edited out of a later scene and used by a female x-wing pilot. In place of the smoked plasteen blast shield, she has a yellow anti-glare eye shield. This could be evidently be removed by sliding it up into the body of the helmet.
Rebel pilot wearing matching helmet
Since the helmet is of a modern design it seems more likely that the helmet belongs to Solo rather than Obi-Wan. That said, given that it was (according to the Junior Novelisation) being stored at the "Engineering station" and given the extensive weathering on it, it certainly seems possible that Solo and Chewie were also using it for welding rather than as a pilot helmet.
The authors of the Star Wars: The Essential Guide to Warfare apparently considered including an extensive description of the use (and misuse) of the helmet blast shield in their book:
A day before the third hop, they collected our helmets and brought them back with blast shields you could flip down over your face. I’d like to meet the glit-biter that put these things together — the shield was huge, and when I flipped it down the hinge practically pushed the bridge of my nose back into my skull. They told us to keep the blast shield up until it was time to fire the charges, snap it down, then pop it back up when the flash had dissipated. They said next hop they’d wire a HUD in there, but for now it was just plastoid.
there are books (not a single one book, books) about shit like this?
whole sagas were written about the dude running through Cloud City with an ice cream maker (revealed to be a special container for valuable metal ingots such as beskar in Mando S1)
dude there are thousands of dollars of books that are nothing but LITERAL apologetics for SW
its insane
This is the type of lore and Star Wars fan that Disney 100% hates, btw.
Autism isn't good writing.
It ifrn makes for good Worldbuilding, though. There's thr Chrischan autism and then There's this
Don't try to explain good writing to this troony. Pic related is more his speed.
You need help writing your Star Wars flicks? Here’s a series of 26 movies for inspiration.
ive seen all these, about 13 of them seem like the same film but they are all well done
>it totally makes sense for a helmet to have a part that completely blocks your vision
It's for welding in ....spaaaace!
>it totally makes sense for a helmet to have a part that completely blocks your vision
in certain situations. yes. even many versions of real world astronaut helmets have such a feature
Wait how do we know it aint got a visual targeting feed when it's wired into the Falcon
Maybe it's a VR/AR thing that simply wasn't powered on.
Except the prequels changed all that by making this helmet a standard part of jedi training for childlings.
And they were very good friends
Ya the prequels are moronic, go figure
Nope. Different helmet moron.
Then you can say Obi-Wan brought it from the same box of stuff where he pulled Luke's lightsaber.
>where he pulled Luke's lightsaber.
not even the same helmet
> 7 year olds waving deadly weapons around while standing close together
prequelgays will defend this lmao
Yaaaaaass qween slaaayy
no one ever said being a jedi was easy or safe. best them younglings learn that fact early, and if some of them don't survive their training, well then that's just dead weight that wouldn't be able to hack it as a knight
As Master Drago wisely said, ''If they die, they die''
There is no death, only the force.
>no one ever said being a jedi was easy or safe
or required basic common sense
They're weirdo cultists, no shit.
Consider that Qui-Gon and all the other dead jedi who became one with the Force did not return as Force ghosts to warn the Jedi Order about Sidious but remained silent, content to let them be wiped out and all the children too. They don't care, a child's life is not precious, they believe in accepting fate or some such thing. If a youngling dies in training, so be it.
I would devise training where the potentially lethal stuff doesn't happen till the younglings are much older but I'm not as wise as Qui-Gon 🙁
Only Qui-Gon could become a Force Ghost at the time. The others are gone forever.
>> 7 year olds waving deadly weapons around while standing close together
i learned to shoot at 4 years old and got my first air rifle for my 5th birthday. i also trained with bows and arrows, throwing axes, and crossbows while in tiger cubs(toddler version of cubscouts/boyscouts) no one shot anyone. and we didnt even have 'the force'.
>i learned to shoot at 4 years old
you weren't doing it with another 4 year old standing near the target though which is what the Jedi kids do
>you weren't doing it with another 4 year old standing near the target though which is what the Jedi kids do
ya but im not force sensitive. and im a real person. and star wars is a fantasy story for children.
AND their vision is blocked
In one of the books they're training sabres, apparently lower powered versions that can't really cut as such.
Obi-wan had a fight with another Jedi student in that book and a robot saw them or something i honestly cant remember which one.
But they had training sabres.
why did hand have a useless helmet that blocks your view
>standard helmet everyone uses
>you can't see anything with it on
incredible
Why do ESLs put a space before punctuation like periods or question marks? You can spot it anywhere if you pay attention
They're typing too quickly.
What I want to Know is Why they seem to Capitalize so many of their Words as if they thought they were Communicating with the Eighteenth Century.
Its Deutsch
you’re confusing ESLs with phoneposters, although there is significant overlap between the two
why do amuttians suck israelite and Black person dicks all day?
>ESLs
It's French people, I'm an ESL and we don't do it. Just a frog thing afaik
>Why do ESLs put a space before punctuation like periods or question marks? You can spot it anywhere if you pay attention
im not that anon and im not esl, but i just dont respect grammar and language in general and leave typos and mistakes in my post to troll people. the way you retarts think anyone who doesnt type/write in perfect engrish means they are ESL tells me more about you than the supposed ESL poster.
Spelling and grammar are crucial for clear and effective communication. They help ensure that the intended message is understood by the recipient, reduce misunderstandings, and create a professional image. In written communication, they are fundamental building blocks of literacy and comprehension.
>Spelling and grammar are crucial for clear and effective communication. They help ensure that the intended message is understood by the recipient, reduce misunderstandings, and create a professional image. In written communication, they are fundamental building blocks of literacy and comprehension.
well good thing this is Cinemaphile and not a professional setting and my intention isnt clear and effective communication, but lulz and shitposting.
Apparently zoomers do it on purpose. I’m not sure why but I was reading a thread about stuff zoomers do that gives away that they’re zoomers and a couple people said that.
No?
Just close your eyes, homie
>with an entirely opaque blast visor
it was a simple helmet with a blast shield.
akin to a welding helmet.
typical stuff to have on a ship.
Now, where did you get the idea that that was a specific Jedi helmet?
you just know
exactly, it's a helmet for gentlemen's alone time
Black person he's a scavenger
Han was a smuggler. Youre thinking of Rey Palaptine Skywalker. She was a scavenger
why did have the floating target/laser thing on his ship
It's like having a Dreamcast or something. Every ship has in-flight entertainment.
What was the bounty for a pair of jedis ?
Why did han not just hand them over to the empire?
doesn't Han explicitly say he doesn't like the empire? kind of like a drug dealer saying they don't like the police. it's just someone they will never deal with willingly
For me its the AT-DP
How many credits per hour ordinary wagie from Kuat Drive Yards could earn during imperial times?
zero, they used slave labor
THe empire outlawed slavery
Why is the Empire so anti-freedom?
rebel lies !
> outlaws slavery
> gets attacked by butthurt rebels
hmmm
bullshit
>DP
>one cannon
All Terrain Defense Pod (AT-DP)
"Yes, they're remarkable machines—faster and better armored than the old AT-RTs."
"What about firepower? That ball cannon looks mean."
"I've seen a single shot punch through medium vehicle plating. That mean enough for you?"
―Piers Roddance and Ames Bunkle
Why is Han putting up with a blindfolded hayseed waving around something that can cut through the hull is a better question. These deadbeats haven't even paid in full for the trip.
holy shit luke is absolutely malding and SEETHING hahahahaha
I still laugh they had to make up a bullshit excuse that it le 'actually pushes large space containers around' with those prongs on the front. All because George didn't really think about how it's a freighter with barely any space for cargo and would be really shit at its job
ya a simple box freighter design like the one in andor could carry three times as much cargo for some weight class of ship and way easier to load and unload
you could even use forklift droids as opposed to millennium falcon small box by box carried in to one of the various scattered small holds /
Allow me to play devil's advocate (moron apologist).
The Falcon isn't a normal freighter, it's a smuggling ship. The design is labyrinthine and moronic on purpose to make it harder to inspect and so you can stash more space drugs in it.
The big advantages the Millennium Falcon has are for longer distances (more space for crew) and more dangerous runs (more guns and better shields). The freighter in Andor nearly got shot down by three TIE Fighters, whereas the Millennium Falcon can actively eliminate them.
Most freighters in Star Wars are part gunship due to how extensive piracy is outside the Galactic Core, but that makes them less effective as freighters.
>any space for cargo and would be really shit at its job
maybe it's more of a ford van than a 18 wheeler
>freighter
Where was millennium falcon ever called a freighter in canon?
I know george makes a lot of shit up as he goes along, but the prongs plus the off center wienerpit actually make a reasonable anount of sense for a reverse space tug that's pushing cargo
the prong gap is a bite
the wienerpit is a pickle
the MF was based off a hamburger
It might be inspired by that shape but it still took work by prop designers and guys like McQuarrie to turn it into a functional ship design. It's not like George designed all this shit himself. The falcon wasn't even Han's ship originally, that was the blockade runner
George Lucas might be a talentless hack but this isn't a good example of that
How do these schemes work? Does it become some sort of a reference point that everyone else is using after the book is published? What if another book comes out and says that Millienum Falcon has a different layout?
The original Millennium Falcon had a long and cylindrical shape, the complete opposite to the flat and round ship the world now knows. The problem with it was that it looked a lot like the Eagle Transporter from the TV series Space: 1999, so Lucas requested a change, telling the designers to think of a “flying hamburger” that could “sail like a sunfish”. Modelmaker Joe Johnston only had four weeks to completely redesign the Falcon, and because he didn’t want to make a “basic flying saucer”, he created the offset wienerpit, forward cargo mandibles, and rear slot for the engines – though the design is said to be roughly based on a burger with an olive-on-the-side wienerpit.
>flying hamburger
>sail like a sunfish
>a burger with an olive-on-the-side
Some people just can't comprehend true visionary genius
that original design was just the most bland, boring shit ever.
say what you want, but the MF has an iconic and easily recognizable shape
Star Wars' designs are iconic and recognizable because of how silly, moronic and obviously designed for how children believe things work they are. They look neat sure, and they throw a lot of gibberish on there to pretend they're feasible, but they're some of the most ridiculous to pretend could be real. Star Trek is just as bad though.
Explain why they're bad.
>Star Trek is just as bad though.
nah star trek is infinitely worse at bullshit ship designs than star wars is. at least star war's most outrageous designs still have the 'rule of cool'
are you a NASApunk homie or something?
you don't want a space opera to have cool looking ships?
what an unfunny homosexualard you must be.
spaceships need to be iconic and recognizable, so you can tell what aliens it belongs to.
go back to playing StarFaild lol
Why does it have two docking rings, surely one is enough for such a small ship.
> one docking ring fails, gets depressurized and blows off
> no backup
> you are now fricked forever and condemned to die of dehydration floating in a space coffin
it was escape pods plus
two freight loading doors , A ramp and maintenance access and a ceiling hatch(assuming they have spacewalk gear )
Yeah but freight doors and a ramp probably wouldn't be rated to seal in an exo atmospheric environment thoughbeit
They don't show either in use anyway, just that weird topside tunnel you would have to crawl through
It's abstract art. Of the good kind. In my opinion some abstract art is very good. People tend to have a more limited negative view of it due to posers and well really what drives shitty pointless "art" is criminal enterprise. It's bullshit. And some ppl fall for it.
Take a look at her to to edges, her fitted plates. Blocky. Always blocky, rectangular, raised chunks, for added durability. This visual motif is repeated even in parts of Stormtrooper armor.
How do you know Ben didn't bring it?
did you see him bring any luggage along you nog?
He carried the helmet to Mos Eisley but kept it concealed from the audience with a mind-trick.
I hate these movies. Completely unrealistic
You will never be a woman.
he should have just met dex at the diner not have dex own the diner
>he should have just met dex at the diner not have dex own the diner
and this is why you are a nobody, and george lucas is a somebody.
my protocol droid is broken
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EVERY time some new wokesloppification of an old IP comes out, there's threads that criticize some aspect of the old stuff. they don't mention the new shit.
I really want to think it's genuine.
Because Disney Wars is still better than the prequels.
those helmets probably have an extensive wookiepedia page
>those helmets probably have an extensive wookiepedia page
so does your mom's blown out butthole:
https://starwars.fandom.com/wiki/Sarlacc
The real question is why did you feel the need to make a thread about in 2024.