Why did I like this movie so much?

Why did I like this movie so much?

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  1. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    Because you have shitty taste in movies

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      /Thread

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        /reddit

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous
  2. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    it's science fiction with good writing.

  3. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    why didnt the aliens just learn english? Then they could have just written on the wall in english "hey there is a bomb over there", and then abbott would not be death process?

    What would they even need our help with? They seem pretty big and have those rocks they fly around in, they seem to have everything pretty in hand. And how is she even meant to memoirse chinese mans number in like 2 seconds?

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      self fulfilling prophecy

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      >And how is she even meant to memoirse chinese mans number in like 2 seconds?
      i assume it's because the memory is ever present in her mind. i imagine it works by slaughterhouse-five rules

      Because you have shitty taste in movies

      That's why i'm posting here

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        giant alien feet lmao
        Imagine seeing a chicken for the first time and thinking its face was its feet

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          >And how is she even meant to memoirse chinese mans number in like 2 seconds?
          i assume it's because the memory is ever present in her mind. i imagine it works by slaughterhouse-five rules
          [...]
          That's why i'm posting here

          >The entire film was about humanities burgeoning alien foot fetish

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        Hang, they were feet the entire time?

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          it shows their true form in the last 15 minutes of the movie. they spent about 2 hours talking to and obsessing over alien feet

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        >oi, is that a 1.5 metre cloaca I see there? looks like it could use a good probin'. he'll really be pissed off neyow.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      >why didnt the aliens just learn english?
      Their way of interaction is entirely intentional so humans have to work together to solve what's happening. That’s why there are 12 spaceships across the globe instead of one, if they just came to Amy Adams house with a simple instructional word file then there would be no one to help them in 3000 years like they wanted to.
      >What would they even need our help with?
      They need help in 3000 years, not right then.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      >why didnt the aliens just learn english?
      The only way you could possibly ask this question is if you didn't watch the film or paid literally zero attention.
      The entire point was to bring humanity together

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      Humans become smarter than the aliens in 4000 years in this movie. Humans always think they are at the top, which is why their gods are so similar to them.

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        If the 'humanity frick yeah' stories on /tg/ are to believed, once there is some sort of galactic government the other species will regard humanity with fear as we naturally produce one of the most controlled substances, adrenaline.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      >why didnt the aliens just learn english
      because that wouldnt help them later

  4. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    aliens that feel truly alien- "heptapod" means 7 limbs and those aren't a thing on Earth. plus their entire system of language.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      There's some schizoid harvard linguistics professor IRL who keeps talking about how vibrations within some part of the brain can partially change how we perceive our surroundings and some other shit about "shadow biomes" that exist on earth. wish i could remember the dudes name but I absolutely love shit like this

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        Isn't that the guy who thinks the tic tacs are living creatures that have emerged from the shadow biome?

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        Stanford, not Harvard.. immunologist and microbiologist. Garry Nolan.

        He briefly hinted that in a podcast, he didnt specify shadow biosphere, just said that the research was very interesting from the group doing it, and that they are doing papers on proving it, they could measure something there.

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          Could you expand?
          You sound kinda schizo yourself here. What's the claim that he's actually making? And what does the evidence say?

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            Maybe if you’re not interested in the topic of UAP. The guy is literally nobel prize nominated, you should listen to some interviews with him.

            ?t=2511
            This is the reference video, like i said this is something only he can elborate on, reseach is ongoing currently as far as i understand from this.

            • 1 year ago
              Anonymous

              Linked the wrong video, here is the one, dont have a direct timestamp, but here is a clip from reddit of it.

              https://libreddit.spike.codes/r/UFOs/comments/11dxm3h/garry_nolan_on_the_extraordinary_ongoing_research/

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous
  5. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    The melancholic style that Villeneuve always uses in his drama movies

  6. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    small scale, character drive plot with big implications for the rest of the world, so actions feel compelling.

    amy adams' got robbed of her oscar with this performance because Hollywood wanted to suck its own dick with la la land

    good writing, dialogue, and central theme. ultimately, a good representation of what love (and ensuring that china won't nuke everyone) will push you to do regardless circumstances

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      This lost to lalaland?

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        >people think La La Land won the Best Picture to this day

        Get wrecked, gay Blacks

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      Lala land was better

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        >Lala land was better

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        This

        >Lala land was better

        [...]
        [...]
        i dont even know what people see in la la land, it was mid af

        Lalaland was better. Hating on Lalaland is a truly midwit take.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      This lost to lalaland?

      Lala land was better

      i dont even know what people see in la la land, it was mid af

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      Lala land was better

      I actually love La La Land and I think it's underrated (everyone says it's overrated, it seems like only the academy actually rates it highly though).
      But Arrival is in a completely different league.

  7. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    probably because it's the first thing that made you actually considered a language taking a different form than your own and this made you think you're intelligent because you understood what they were trying to do with the concept but, in truth, the language form they demonstrated in the movie was fricking moronic and wouldn't really work in real life and that almost certainly every alien language would actually look something akin to ours

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      I didn't really think about the "mechanics" of any of the scifi stuff because it's a hollywood movie. I'm already well aware that the language one uses effects their thought patterns. Why do you think everyone on Cinemaphile talks the way they do Black person?

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      >that almost certainly every alien language would actually look something akin to ours
      >ours
      WE dont even have "one language" you can call "ours"

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        >WE dont even have "one language" you can call "ours"
        Yes, we do. The general aesthetics, structures, and rules to all languages are essentially the same. Just as in math, these things are universals they just haven't been given the same respect and strictures that scientists have placed behind mathematics, yet. Phonology, Morphology, Syntax, Semantics, Pragmatics. Grammar. Rhetoric. Logic. Et cetera. It's all an evolution of standards around language. Hell even Tolkien's Phonoaesthetics. Phonetics. Poetics. Articulation. Pronunciation. Just because we have different words or sounds doesn't mean the rules of language in general are different.

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          You seem to know what you're talking about so let me ask you some questions. Doesn't Latin have a completely different syntax from most modern languages? Do you consider that they are more alike than different because they both have syntax? Don't African click languages fall outside of a lot of the standards that you're talking about?

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            >Doesn't Latin have a completely different syntax from most modern languages? Do you consider that they are more alike than different because they both have syntax?
            Yes and no, but your second question does generally allude to what I mean. English is more principled and ordered but they’re more alike than different to me.
            >Don't African click languages fall outside of a lot of the standards that you're talking about?
            I would say even click languages are phonetic and can be written grammatically with the best analogy to something akin to Morse code, etc.

            Don't chinks use what is essentially hieroglyphics for their written language?

            >Don't chinks use what is essentially hieroglyphics for their written language?
            Yes but the formal (pictographs) we’re from a much older time when technologically they had to keep things short. Writings on signs, bamboo, etc. Informal mandarin is much closer to our modern development.

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          Don't chinks use what is essentially hieroglyphics for their written language?

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            The written languages in asia are completely different because they use (as you said) hieroglyphic-type words where a symbol represents an idea/object instead of a sound.
            But that doesn't mean that what he said is necessarily wrong. I thought he was really wrong, but basic google translate tells me that the language is still formed of the same general components. You can test this by translating a sentence and then changing a couple of the words and seeing how much that impacts the translated sentence. A language that was formed in an entirely different way would wholly change when translated because the translation would be attempting to describe the meaning rather than the words (since the words wouldn't have 1:1 counterparts)

            • 1 year ago
              Anonymous

              You have a part of your brain dedicated to doing language. If it's destroyed you can't talk anymore. If it's damaged you can talk but extremely poorly, even if you're able to "think" as well as before, you can't articulate your thoughts. Children pick up languages automatically, but if you try to learn one part the age of 14 you will forever sound wrong to a native speaker. Children will also spontaneously create new grammars if you leave them alone, and they will even fix the grammar of broken languages. E.g., if you have two immigrant populations living on top of and mingling with and intermarrying each other, they will develop a "creole" language, which is a mix of the two populations' native languages. But this creole language will be simplistic and awkward. That is, *until* those people have children and teach their children their mixed language, at which point the children will spontaneously correct all the grammatical flaws of the language and fill in missing words with new ones of their own.

              I could go on, but anyway, the evidence is basically unambiguous that humans are born with an innate understanding of language, and varied words and grammars are just symbols filling in pre-existing structures. (Probably, also, the reason there are so many different languages isn't because language is e.g., too complicated for people to share the same one, but because different populations deliberately create their own languages for the purpose of social exclusion).

              But... this doesn't suggest that language is universal, just that all humans share the same language instinct. A different species might well have a different one. Apparently this is a controversial subject in linguistics (I'm not a linguist, I just read books for laymen).

              The premise of the movie is still moronic though.

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                >also, the reason there are so many different languages isn't because language is e.g., too complicated for people to share the same one, but because different populations deliberately create their own languages for the purpose of social exclusion
                That's genuinely fascinating. And it makes so much sense when you have have languages on the verge of dying out and get people autistically clinging to them for no practical reason other than "muh culture" (gaelic springs to mind).
                >The premise of the movie is still moronic though.
                In what way? You must be very familiar with the way that language changes the way people think about things, beyond just reading the sapir-whorf wiki page. So why does a sci-fi take on that seem moronic to you?

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                >and varied words and grammars are just symbols filling in pre-existing structures.
                based plato continues to be correct. i had to get interviewed by a glowie psychiatrist because i answered one of their forms with wrongthink stating that a human being is incapable of truly discovering anything new because it already exists in our mind's physical structure

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                >spends and entire post gushing about why humans are biologically hardwired to crack languages
                >thinks the premise of arrival is moronic
                you got like 99% of a good post and analysis but fell on your face at the end

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          >essentially the same
          "essentially" is doing an Atlas level of heavy lifting here

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            Sure. You’re welcome to disagree.

  8. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    you didn't

  9. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    Because it's an absolute masterpiece and probably the best sci fi film of the 21st century.

  10. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    It was unique. I still enjoyed the short story more and wish the aliens were more like it described them.

  11. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    The ending makes me cry like a little b***h every time. I never cry at movies, but it's so fricking tragic.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      This. You can nitpick about little shit all you want but the message and themes of the movie are sound, the acting is well done, it's unique, but the ending kills it.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      Little b***h.

  12. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    And to think there's people who say that women don't visit Cinemaphile.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      I'm a man but I have been described by several ex-girlfriends as "womanly" and "too feminine" before.

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        It's over

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          And Yet I Frick

  13. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    post of a webm of the dream scare

  14. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    it's pretty well-written sci-fi as long as you don't mind the premise.
    it's also the only Denis Villeneuve movie he doesn't have a writing credit for, yet is also the commercial success he was able to ride to making multiple mega-budget borefests.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      further proof that books > movies

  15. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    I just wish they spent more time on explaining how they translated the language
    They basically smash cut from "oh they make cool symbols" to "okay we can translate these 20 words already"
    I suppose the writers would have had no fricking idea how to get that first step

  16. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    the movie was shit

  17. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    Because you're reddit

  18. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    Because even though it goes a bit christopher nolan/makoto shinkai at the end - it's a great movie, and there is vanishingly few good scifi movies at all these days.

  19. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    cause youre a redditor

  20. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    It wasn't a great a movie but it had some really cool aspects. There's something really neat about being curious and attempting to communicate with some giant scary aliens that are actually docile.
    Was Abbott able to foresee the future if it went beyond his lifespan or was he just trusting Costello's insight?

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      Abbott would know his own death is necessary for the greater good. He would know he would sacrifice himself to save the woman from the moment he understood language. He cannot see past that, but knows it must happen from talking to others of his species.

  21. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    Because it's actually very good.

  22. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    >You know what the incredible thing about all this was? It wasn't communicating with aliens on their spacecraft, it was meeting you.
    Bracvo Villenolan. 10/10 writing.

  23. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    Am I the only one who likes the anticipation of meeting the aliens for the first time in these types of movies? Like where you see the military jets flying and the government setting up camp around the ships? For some reason I find a lot of enjoyment from that type of hype.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      Same. Taking all of the precautions possible and then giving them a chance by sending in some madmen to take a leap of faith to see what happens.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      same

  24. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    I liked this movie but when I really try to think about it I realize I'm a brainlet.

  25. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    If this were an episode of Outer Limits, it would've been fricking amazing. But for a feature length movie, it's got some intensely weak execution. The not-Alex-Jones army guys are cartoon characters, and the rest of it's leaning so heavily on you giving a shit about her and her kid that it forgets to actually build that need to care.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      >The not-Alex-Jones army guys are cartoon characters
      I thought it was handled very well. I don't need multiple scenes of him and some other grunts yelling about Aliens making the frogs gay. Just having sprinkled in a silent scene of this one guy consuming propaganda content and you know, without him saying anything, that he is planning to do something.

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        >handled very well
        Yes, allowing uncontrolled outside comms during the biggest event in military history was handled very well.

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          >uncontrolled outside comms
          From what I recall, it was uncontrolled input, but outgoing comms were tightly controlled.

  26. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    I wanted to like it but the language/time travel twist was too fricking stupid. Would have preferred almost anything else

  27. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    Why are none of these new Oscarcore movies as memorable as old ones? It feels like these movies are called masterpieces then a year later no one even remembers they exist. That didn't seem to be the case with the best movies coming out between 1970 and 2010

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      People are literally talking about Arrival in this thread, what are you on about?

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        I think he's comparing stuff like Green Mile and Godfather to the run of the mill Oscar bait like La La land, moonlight and hidden figures.

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