When your movie's plot is the slapped-together remains of half a dozen different scripts, inevitably you're gonna wander into one of the scripts that isn't sci fi anymore.
They turned one of those scripts into a comic book. While the space commies and virus that turns people into aliens was cool, the plot was forgettable. This prison stuff might've been the best outta the bunch.
>This prison stuff might've been the best outta the bunch.
Yeah but they'd already built sets for the "wooden planet with monks" version of the script for Vincent Ward, and then one day Ward turns up only to find out it's now a prison colony at which point he bailed
Especially when the producers demand rewrites every night so everyday Fincher would go to work and find out that the script was completely different from the one he had yesterday and the scenes he was going to shoot that day didn't exist anymore. Honestly the fact that it's somewhat coherent despite EVERYTHING is a testament to how good Fincher is
>I'm a murderer and rapist of women
For all that its accused of throwing away from the previous installments, Alien iii is a pretty good title... cause it alienates the audience threefold!
>We're all gonna die, the only question is when. This is as good a place as any to take your first steps to heaven. The only question is how you check out. Do you wanna go on your feet? Or on your fricking knees, begging? I ain't much for begging! Nobody ever gave me nothin!
ok but why did you become a religious cult leader and get all your followers to take vows of celibacy which they then ignore the moment they actually see a woman?
I don't mind Alien 3 being shit that much. What do I mind is it poisoning the Alien franchise forever. Every single piece of Alien media (save for Resurrection) that came out after Alien 3 has been nothing but nihilist dreck. So much so, that at this point people think that nothing mattering is part of the Alien identity.
You ever read how Ridley Scott wanted to end the first Alien movie?
The alien bites Ripley's head off, calmly sits down in the ship's pilot seat, and sends out a message (IN RIPLEY'S VOICE) that its setting a course for Earth.
Yes and people stopped him from pulling through with that moronic idea and it was a good thing. He should have more people stop him from doing moronic things these days.
Except that that doesn't matter. Ridley is not the end all, be all, God of the alien universe. The primary reason Alien is remembered and has carried on so long is directly due to Aliens. Everyone loved Aliens and wanted more. More comics, toys, games, etc. So the two movies that were actually created, not the dumbass deleted scenes or shit ideas that weren't implemented, had decently pleasant endings where the humans triumphed over the alien and continued living fine. So no, nothing is lovecraftian cosmic horror that needs to be endlessly miserable and rugpull the audience at the beginning of ever next film by saying "You thought they survived? GOTCHA! They died horribly right after the credits!" That's just idiocy to justify the nonsense of Alien 3 and act like it could never have been anything else, when yes, Alien 3 could have been an awesome third movie that spawned multiple follow-on also awesome movies.
Reminder she turns her fricking head and no one has ever explained it
3 months ago
Anonymous
what do you mean? i dont remember that
3 months ago
Anonymous
It's like the secret Mass Effect 3 ending where you see Shepard take a breath. It doesn't mean anything except for "we know this is shit but we might make more!"
3 months ago
Anonymous
I think he means when she's on the mourge slab and her head is turned to the side away from the camera instead of facing forward. Of course that's just to hide the fact that it's a fricking dummy.
Can't post a screenshot because I don't want to get banned for topless dickyposting.
3 months ago
Anonymous
ah gotcha, lol they way the guys were looking at ripley when she was doing that
>That's just idiocy to justify the nonsense of Alien 3
Nobody cares about an annoying kid character. The only characters that matter are Ripley and the xenomorph.
No, that was just Ridley's idiotic idea. It's not something that was part of Alien at all, nor Aliens.
You do realise Ridley Scott didn't write Alien? He was just a director for hire.
It's kinda nuts that they had enough footage to create a fairly coherent film all things considered. Almost everyone at the studio put their hands on it and wanted different things.
When your movie's plot is the slapped-together remains of half a dozen different scripts, inevitably you're gonna wander into one of the scripts that isn't sci fi anymore.
They turned one of those scripts into a comic book. While the space commies and virus that turns people into aliens was cool, the plot was forgettable. This prison stuff might've been the best outta the bunch.
>This prison stuff might've been the best outta the bunch.
Yeah but they'd already built sets for the "wooden planet with monks" version of the script for Vincent Ward, and then one day Ward turns up only to find out it's now a prison colony at which point he bailed
Especially when the producers demand rewrites every night so everyday Fincher would go to work and find out that the script was completely different from the one he had yesterday and the scenes he was going to shoot that day didn't exist anymore. Honestly the fact that it's somewhat coherent despite EVERYTHING is a testament to how good Fincher is
>I'm a murderer and rapist of women
For all that its accused of throwing away from the previous installments, Alien iii is a pretty good title... cause it alienates the audience threefold!
>I'm a murderer and rapist of women
We know that isn't true because he doesn't have his own pair of rape goggles.
I love how it starts playing fricking techno when he puts those on. It's like a fricking Prodigy music video lmao
this and "i'll do the fingering" are my favorite quotes of the alien franchise
because it wanted to be more, it wanted to be kino
>We're all gonna die, the only question is when. This is as good a place as any to take your first steps to heaven. The only question is how you check out. Do you wanna go on your feet? Or on your fricking knees, begging? I ain't much for begging! Nobody ever gave me nothin!
ok but why did you become a religious cult leader and get all your followers to take vows of celibacy which they then ignore the moment they actually see a woman?
I don't mind Alien 3 being shit that much. What do I mind is it poisoning the Alien franchise forever. Every single piece of Alien media (save for Resurrection) that came out after Alien 3 has been nothing but nihilist dreck. So much so, that at this point people think that nothing mattering is part of the Alien identity.
You ever read how Ridley Scott wanted to end the first Alien movie?
The alien bites Ripley's head off, calmly sits down in the ship's pilot seat, and sends out a message (IN RIPLEY'S VOICE) that its setting a course for Earth.
Yes and people stopped him from pulling through with that moronic idea and it was a good thing. He should have more people stop him from doing moronic things these days.
Indeed. But it shows that this franchise has been embracing the "no hope, Lovecraftian cosmic horror" thing since day one.
Except that that doesn't matter. Ridley is not the end all, be all, God of the alien universe. The primary reason Alien is remembered and has carried on so long is directly due to Aliens. Everyone loved Aliens and wanted more. More comics, toys, games, etc. So the two movies that were actually created, not the dumbass deleted scenes or shit ideas that weren't implemented, had decently pleasant endings where the humans triumphed over the alien and continued living fine. So no, nothing is lovecraftian cosmic horror that needs to be endlessly miserable and rugpull the audience at the beginning of ever next film by saying "You thought they survived? GOTCHA! They died horribly right after the credits!" That's just idiocy to justify the nonsense of Alien 3 and act like it could never have been anything else, when yes, Alien 3 could have been an awesome third movie that spawned multiple follow-on also awesome movies.
>You thought they survived? GOTCHA!
Still mad.
Reminder she turns her fricking head and no one has ever explained it
what do you mean? i dont remember that
It's like the secret Mass Effect 3 ending where you see Shepard take a breath. It doesn't mean anything except for "we know this is shit but we might make more!"
I think he means when she's on the mourge slab and her head is turned to the side away from the camera instead of facing forward. Of course that's just to hide the fact that it's a fricking dummy.
Can't post a screenshot because I don't want to get banned for topless dickyposting.
ah gotcha, lol they way the guys were looking at ripley when she was doing that
See
In the making of video it shows the long shot of the Newt dummy and it fricking moves just before the shot cuts. Someone already posted it above
>That's just idiocy to justify the nonsense of Alien 3
Nobody cares about an annoying kid character. The only characters that matter are Ripley and the xenomorph.
No, that was just Ridley's idiotic idea. It's not something that was part of Alien at all, nor Aliens.
You do realise Ridley Scott didn't write Alien? He was just a director for hire.
>that was just Ridley's idiotic idea
Not gonna lie, sounds cool.
>Nihilistic dreck
Crazy, it's like they think Alien is a horror series with rape overtones and not an action adventure romp
>What do I mind is it poisoning the Alien franchise forever
When did Alien 3 turn into Aliens?
It's kinda nuts that they had enough footage to create a fairly coherent film all things considered. Almost everyone at the studio put their hands on it and wanted different things.
>sigourney will only do it if you kill ripley and there can't be any guns
They just shouldn't have made it
They should have killed Ripley in the opeing credits and had Newt and Hicks be the new protags.
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>4:06
Has Alien Isolation been the only good thing to happen in the franchise since Aliens?
AVP2 multiplayer was sick.
this shot and the part where the black guys says "im a murderer and a rapist of women" are the only things i liked about this movie
If you think about it Alien was babby's first horror movie for Star Wars (1977) boomers and they didn't know what to do about its success