Why did Jigsaw leave Adam to die in the room?
His game was literally just “do not die before this time” and he didn’t die before that time
In fact, he went above and beyond by killing Zepp and saving Dr Gordon after being shot
Why did Jigsaw leave Adam to die in the room?
I just made this same face on the toilet because it clogged with about a foot of poop still in the bowl.
Based, leave it in there for the next person to see
Based, I clogged the shitter in trump tower
The explanation is that the key to his keychain was in the bathtub but it flushed when Adam woke up and then Kramer left him there for no reason other than to have LE COOL ending to the first movie. Then the writers realized that this shit makes no fricking sense, so Kramer sends Amanda to free Adam but she kills him for no reason.
>The explanation is that the key to his keychain was in the bathtub but it flushed when Adam woke up and then Kramer left him there for no reason other than to have LE COOL ending to the first movie. Then the writers realized that this shit makes no fricking sense, so Kramer sends Amanda to free Adam but she kills him for no reason.
she was a junkie jealous c**t that didn't want other apprentices, dr. Gordon got revenge for Adam in the 3 or 4th movie. Dr. Gordon asked John to let Adam live, like I said Amanda was a jealous junkie
I thought Amanda mercy-killed him of her own accord so he didn't have to slowly starve to death?
He was a deadbeat paparazzi type dude
HE TOOK PICTURES OF PEOPLE WITHOUT PERMISSION
HE DESERVES TO DIE
Jigsaw = JigC
Baker = MC
Afraid of Jigsaw? No, I enjoy MC content.
If he killed this dude for taking pictures which is a legitimate job then he should be killing ticket cops, DMV workers, and tow truck drivers too.
>Hello Steve, I imagine you're pretty confused
>Two months ago I parked in the CVS parking lot and walked across the street to Five Guys to get something to eat
>When I returned you had my car halfway onto your truck
>When I stated that I was going into CVS you simply ignored me I ended up having to pay a $260 fee
>That is why your legs are currently chained to two different cars...
Kino
>he should be killing ticket cops, DMV workers, and tow truck drivers too.
Yeah
These three species should all be killed either way.
They don’t explain it well in the film but the writing was definitely there.
Jigsaw didn’t pick Adam because of his job. Be picked him because he was wasting his life, speaking about him being a voyeur was just a metaphor for him taking pictures of people living their lives while he did nothing he personally valued. Adams character is meant to be the waster type who does the minimum and doesn’t try, compared to Gordon who focused entirely on his work and himself to the point of neglecting his family
Saw 1 was a pretty choppy amateur production so this isn’t portrayed perfectly.
There’s even this deleted scene from Saw 3 showing Adam bumping into Amanda.
Just to reinforce him not really living. Just takes Amanda’s picture knowing she isn’t gonna come to his friends band. He isn’t even doing something for him or particularly believes in what he’s doing for his friend.
Since only Gordon was the essential part of the bathroom trap. My guess is Amanda picked him from this interaction
Just realised this scene is actually JUST BEFORE the scene where Adam is captured for the Saw 1 test. He’s even wearing the same clothes
Which means Amanda there is specifically there to get him. She’s about to dress up as pig face and hide in his apartment
>hello, you may be wondering why you are here
>well you see you're just not living life enough
>because of this you will now endure an extreme torture method that will either kill you or leave you traumatized for the rest of your life
>let the games begin
What did jigsaw mean by this?
the irony is that the guy playing adam is leigh whannel, who went from being the sweaty film dork on a saturday morning stoner show to directing medium budget kino in Hollywood like Upgrade or that new remake of the invisible man.
He's basically me if I wasn't a completely useless piece of shit.
>He's basically me if I wasn't a completely useless piece of shit.
He's you if you were born into a Satanic sect and predetermined from by Hollywood Satanists to make Saw, Upgrade and Invisible Man, it's cute you're naive enough to think film productions are genuine and that every actor and director's rise to fame is genuine and not a fictional story in itself.
>Hello Anon.
>On Saturday the 18th, you decided against getting the buffalo hot sauce for your wings.
>For this reason I have surgically grafted two sticks of dynamite to your testicles...
This life lesson doesn’t feel very good at all. It’s like an invitation to take life more seriously but it’s just stupid and violent, very irritating
It’s almost as if Jigsaw is meant to be insane and with a world view that’s not correct.
Hell. Even in the shittier movies they’re pretty clear he was wrong
>both Amanda and Hoffman as apprentices are failures. Just deliberately kill people with no way to win
>there’s a jigsaw survivors group where they all meet up and it’s clear none of them are “better off” from it
>dr Gordon is now this creepy killer too
I guess it’s just good horror writing that it’s so unsettling, because I do feel accused of not living my life to the fullest
If you were in his game and survived. I guess you’d either
>be depressed because you’re missing a foot now plus your old problems
>break and become a jigsaw apprentice because he makes sense kind of
The ONLY person I remember claiming it legit helped them who wasn’t an apprentice was that guy who FAKED being a jigsaw victim. He wasn’t even tested. He faked it so he could make money to write a book and speak about it. Thus why Hoffman feared him and his wife and associates who knew
Anon...
John Jigsaw Kramer's idea of teaching people to value life is putting them in near inescapable death traps where they have to mutilate themselves and/or others. It's not supposed to make sense because he's a psycho.
Jigsaw was written as much more of an evil, insane pscyhopath in the first film, targetting innocent people for minor flaws and misdemeanors
It was only in the sequels where he started to be portrayed as more of an anti-hero, giving him an over the top sympathetic backstory and having almost all his victims be genuinely bad people
He had a hand in Bobby's game where his innocent wife was cooked alive in front of him while he survived.
Hoffman did it and he just liked killing people. So for all we know Jigsaw planned to just scare him into thinking it was real
Same thing with Jeff daughter in 3. She was planned to be rescued regardless. Or Eric’s son in 2. He was safe the whole time
Are we sure Bobby made it out?
This is true.
>you slit your wrists, either die or cut yourself again
>you did drugs, now have your head ripped open or cut the key of that guy
>you said you were sick and claimed worker’s compensation, but you look healthy to me, now find the cure to your poison in this safe by walking on broken glass before you’re set on fire
Also this guy wasn’t even in a test. He was a practice dummy for a real test. Jigsaw was just testing him to see if the contraption worked
Not to mention Jigsaw straight up cutting one detectives throat, killing the other with a shotgun trap. These kinds of things are never brought up again because it doesn’t make sense with the character jigsaw is developed into later
>Not to mention Jigsaw straight up cutting one detectives throat, killing the other with a shotgun trap.
Don't know if that was Jigsaw or Hoffman.
That was Jigsaw.
>Don't know if that was Jigsaw or Hoffman
Hoffman didn't even exist until he was retconned into existence 2 movies later
And even then, he was never retconned to somehow be behind thise vents.
homie did it sound like Hoffman
>Adam, you haven't lived life to it's fullest
>Die
Thought that was Ezra Miller at first.
zoom zoom
>Remember when you starved to death in a bathroom, and Jigsaw ended up walking free the next day due to having not killed anyone directly?
>It was me Barry. I was the judge who gave him the lightest sentence possible.
thought I was the only one
no wonder he's one of the series' most popular character
Just watched Saw 1 for the first time last night and thought it was Ezra until like 40 minutes in.
How old do you think Ezra is?
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it's leigh whannel nerds
i love these threads, i love saw, shit is so stupid it hurts yet so entertaining
Which one was it where the guy was superglued to the car seat? These movies are pure sleazekino.
Chester Bennington in Saw 7 where he played a white supremacist thug
Fricking Christ, I forgot that was Chester. RIP.
K I N O
A Thousand Suns is criminally underrated.
I thought that was Ezra Miller. If I’m honest, I still think that
What trap would jigsaw put you in for wasting your time on Cinemaphile dot org
h-how would he know I'm on Cinemaphile?
Make you post with the old reCaptcha and get you endless slowly fading fire hydrants.
Don't remind me. The bikes, the crosswalks, the busses, ...
You have to reply to 100 threads in an hour but the keys on your keyboard have been replaced by razor sharp little metal spikes.
Just type with your nails
The captcha turns into an Omegle session of only the cutest girls.
>Hello anon, I would like to play a game.
>You wasted your youth an a Korean spin-art image board.
>I have poisoned you with a deadly toxin, no doctor will be able to determine the poison and give you an antidote in time to save your life. I have brought you to this resort hotel during spring break. All you have to do is talk to and get the phone number of a non-obese woman.
>You have 4 hours.
Make your choice
Live or die.
>non-obese woman
Nope, Jigsaw is high test.
Probably do somethinf to burn out your eyes
You have to make a thread on every board and it has to reach bump limit or else your entire post history will be leaked to the entire world
>You spend your days calling people newbies and telling them to go back to red dit
>You may noticed you're chained to this desk in front of a computer with dial up connection
>If you cannot get new gayer Cinemaphile to complete a Black person tower the hydraulic press between your legs will push your genitals out your ass hole into the ups box behind you.
>They will then be sent to Israel for harvesting
>Let the games begin
>N
>”Hello anon, Ive put you infront of a class of giggling stacys at the first day of school and you have to tell something about yourself”
I'd just wait for the chain to rip my jaw off or whatever.
You are being livestreamed in some contraption. Anonymous internet users vote whether you live or die and you have to persuade them to let you live
>Hello, anon. I want to play a game.
>In spite of coming from a comfortable background, you spent your youth on an internet imageboard, arguing with strangers about women and minorities, instead of doing something constructive. In fact, just last week alone, I counted that you typed 32,136 words into one such imageboard.
>I want to know if you stand by what you said. You have two hours to retype every hateful word you've said on this special keyboard I've set up just for you. Every key is covered by a poison that's absorbed by the skin and that should make you feel as ill as your words caused others to feel. Any mistake, and you'll have to start over again. If the timer runs out, let's just say you'll be getting the banhammer for good. Live or die, make your choice.
>Why did Jigsaw leave Adam to die in the room?
What are you talking about? I thought you gays said that Jiggy was guilty of nothing? What a shit franchise KEK
First film didn't portray Jigsaw as a sympathetic, well intentioned killer. He scary and a ruthless villain with no pity or remorse. Saw 1 Jigsaw wouldn't give a shit about Adam being stuck there. If he really wants out he'll find a way out as far as Jigsaw is concerned.
because he didnt suck Jigsaw's dick before the time ran out and because he lost the last additional piece of puzzle he didnt know he had
I wonder of jigsaw was ever tempted to put random people who did rude things to him in a trap.
>Steven, earlier this week you merged into the road when I was driving in your direction and had the right of way and was pretty close, causing me to have to slow down a good bit but not stop entirely.
>Right now, there is a tube superglued to your anus connected to a fully loaded industrial cement mixer.
I fricking would. Bad drivers deserve to be tortured to death. I had some butthole driving behind me the other night in some shitbox honda who refused to get out of my ass, so I had to brake check him. He got pissed off so I did it 2 more times, then slowed way down to force him to either pass me or die. When he finally passed me, I swerved towards him on purpose like I was going to pit him, then pulled away as he went careening into the shoulder trying to avoid it.
Fun as it was to terrify him and ruin his night, it would be far better if a state-enforced death squad had simply killed him for sucking at driving.
based
Thank you. I drive for a living, so once I'm in my personal vehicle and headed home, my response to bad driving is "get the frick away from me, or I'll kill us both."
>His game was literally just “do not die before this time” and he didn’t die before that time
He lied
Are any of these movies worth watching past the first
The second is worth watching, and at a push so is the third
I also think the sixth is pretty good but you have to sit through 4 and 5 first
Series should have ended at 3 with the original concept they had where Jigsaw would have a change of heart due to the brain surgery alleviating the tumor on his brain. He'd try to undo the traps the free the victims only to be caught and killed in it himself.
Would be tragic kino
>oh wait. The tumor just made me crazy. I’m sane now
>OH SHI-
>*dies*
>nobody even alive to know you changed your mind
Dr. Gordon was also originally supposed to be the test subject in 3 wasn't he? Would've been a nice way to tie up loose ends
I don't recall that, but could have been.
It's been a while, but I'm pretty sure they were trying to bring him back in every film until his return but he had some contract dispute with the producers that kept delaying it
Yeah, something like that. I really hate though that they made him an apprentice when they did bring him back. Would have been better if he never became an apprentice and even assisted the police in trying to find Adam and stop Jigsaw. Only before Jigsaw dies he has a package sent to Gordon with the information he needs to take down Hoffman.
Gordon was supposed to be the doctor in the shotgun collar (which is why she's a boring gender swapped doppelganger of the Gordon character) and then the other story would've been Jigsaw leaving clues for Gordon's wife to try and find him. Getting both Monica Potter and Elwes back was probably a pipedream so we got what we got instead.
I'm interested in the storyline but I really hate torture porn. My brother forced me to watch these movies when I was a kid and I really couldn't handle sitting through it again.
The soap opera-esque ongoing storyline is the best part of the films
I think it is melodramatic, dumb shit.
It was fine up until Hoffman got away with way too much stupid shit
>Hoffman smart enough to get out of like 20 almost gets caught moments
>super smart detective
>uses Strahms dead hand to plant his finger prints at crime scenes
>somehow DOESN’T realise dead hands don’t leave the same kind of finger prints, and it’s easy for forensics to figure out he wasn’t alive when they were made
How did Hoffman make such a mistake? He’s a goddamn homicide detective
Forgetting the best part: Hoffman gets out of being caught leaving a dead man's fingerprints... by killing everyone and then leaving more of those dead man's fingerprints
Can’t get arrested if all the detectives are dead and you burned literally everything to the ground
Smart thinking Strahm
Also, he put the bear trap on Jill IN THE MIDDLE OF A POLICE STATION. I think she was in the evidence room
No cops were in that whole place to hear her scream?
they were all dead.
Just the second
What if Jigsaw’s name was Jigger and he was black instead?
Remember how John took Zep and made him have to hold Gordon's family hostage and kill them if Gordon didn't finish in time to get an antidote or a slow poison would kill him? And Zep was a nice guy who liked John?
It wasn’t mentioned on screen but Zep was a pedo
This was implied by how he tied up Gordon’s daughter and hid in her closet and sod “good night little girl” as he creepily watched her
Also Zep wasn’t even poisoned. He lied
>Also Zep wasn’t even poisoned. He lied
Then why was he coughing?
COVID. Saw was set in the near future when it premiered
Schizo homie made his own backstory
>In 0.5 seconds. I will cut your throat Detective
>Live or die. Make your choice
He chose to live. How did he do it?
>hello anon, I want to play a game
>you don’t know me, but I know you. You have spent your life posting sexist and racist memes on an incel forum known as Cinemaphile
>well, today, you may atone for your crimes
>before you is a television set, on which you will find an endless loop of interracial cuckold porn, courtesy of BLACKED.com
>attached to your ass is a device that will frick you to death with a barbed 20 inch dildo, if you haven’t filled this cup with your own semen in the next 10 minutes
>let the games begin
Just piss in the cup.
I’m surprised to hear there’s real Saw lore, I watched the first three movies and didn’t even consider I was supposed to be paying attention. Something about the movies doesn’t ask you to give a frick
I was peak time for this shit. I was a teen when the saw movies came out and they came out every year every Halloween. Devoured the lore
Pretty kino stuff. I remember message board discussions on whether dr Gordon was Alice as jigsaws apprentice and it was true
Also they had this saw prequel origins comic between movie 1 and 2. They scrapped 90% of it. But kept key pieces which weirdly still appeared whole movies later.
In this comic Jigsaw is some nobody office worker who feels he wasted his life
In the movies he’s actually quite wealthy, owns a lot of abandoned properties he planned to turn into affordable housing before his spiralled etc. He was a big dude. Makes more sense for how resourceful he was in the movies
He just had some ex relationship with a woman called Jill in the comic. Notice how different it is in the final film releases. Where his ex wife Jill and them losing the baby due to that junkie starts his path to being jigsaw
>hello anon wanna play a little game?
>for 16 hours a day you post on an obscure website, repeating the same drivel over and over
>you are currently 30 000 feet in the air on a plane about to run out fuel
>watch the following video without laughing and I will release you with a parachute
>i expect to see you in the wreckage
diabolical
>lose at the play button
FRICK
>"Mr.Steve1989MRE for the sin of gluttony you must consume your way through this 1000lbs container of rotten food that was left behind during the Vietnam war. You have six hours until the toxin in your veins star-"
>"Nice hiss!"
He tried to shoot John.
What trap would jigsaw put a chud in?
>have sex or die, make your choice
>Have sex with a 5/10 Roastie or die, make your choice
"—ACK!"
>Chud, you spend all your days harassing bicpocs and lgbt online, calling them welfare queens and groomers yet you yourself have never had a job and your hard drive is full of terrabytes of anime e-girl pornography. You've wasted your life putting down others, so let's see if you can learn to appreciate the gift of life by putting yourself in the shoes of the people you despise.
>As you no down noticed by now you have been restrained and a flamethrower is pointed directly towards your face. Inside of your pelvis, I have placed the keys to your restraints.The only way to retrieve it is to give yourself a vaginoplasty with the scalpel and estrogen I have provided for you. If you aren't able to retrieve the key in 30 minutes, the flamethrower will ignite and you'll get a the last blackface treatment of your pathetic life. Beome a woman, or black. Make your choice.
I can't believe he got Chester, bros...
His involvement in that movie is the direct cause of his suicide.
Saw is basically a western anime with how moronicly contrived yet fascinating storyline it has
I've never seen the Japanese dub to the Saw movies, but I feel like Dio Brando's voice actor would be the perfect fit for Jigsaw.
It's because Adam tried to shoot him instead of thanking him for the fun game and politely explaining the situation. Despite winning, he lost the part where he's not allowed to be immediately mad about it.
>Adam, I hired you to take some photos, and you did.
>For this reason, you are chained to a bathtub.
>I told the other guy in the room to kill you.
>Live or die. Make your choice.
>I hired you to take some photos,
Tapp hired him.
he was distancing himself from the crime scene so he cant be charged
I could fix her
he was originally just so supposed to be an insane serial killer not a symbol or anarchist or whatever. that's why he killed that one cop and left adam to die in the first film.
He cute. I want to rape him. Can I rape him please?