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Why did she dress like this while everyone else dressed in normal military gear
Main character syndrome, every anime I've seen does it
>every anime I've seen does it
What is this image supposed to mean?
This is cherry-picking. In any anime or live action show/movie there are common, frequently repeating camera angles.
>shows over 100 different clips from different anime of them looking extremely similar to one another
>"this is cherrypicking"
Yes, cherrypicking. Those are very common, generic camera angles that you can find anywhere, and not just in anime.
>generic camera angles that you can find anywhere
false
the entire webm consists of shots whose ubiquity is unique to anime
It's not false. Those ARE generic camera angles commonly found in both anime and live action. The video absolutely is cherry-picking and misrepresenting things.
>the entire webm consists of shots whose ubiquity is unique to anime
Have you seen live action in your life? As for your screenshot, that's the Obari pose. It's a tradition and homage. This is just more proof of dishonest cherry-picking.
>Those ARE generic camera angles commonly found in both anime and live action.
Disingenuous
>The video absolutely is cherry-picking and misrepresenting things.
False
>Have you seen live action in your life? As for your screenshot, that's the Obari pose. It's a tradition and homage. This is just more proof of dishonest cherry-picking.
False
do you understand what the word "ubiquity" means?
It isn't disingenuous, it's the truth. Those are common, generic camera angles.
>False
It's picking common, generic camera angles and using them to construct the false narrative that anime is extremely, exceptionally repetitive in its camera work.
>False
No. That is called the Obari pose and has been a long-standing tradition in anime.
We are talking about camera work.
No we aren't, YOU are talk specifically about camera work when that webm shows more than just that.
Now tell me, where in live action do you see characters doing pic related all the time with their faces?
That video itself is about camera work. That's what we are talking about. Don't try to change the subject.
No, you're the one who's making it about camera work when there was an entire segment dedicated to showing how overused this facial expression is. Now answer my question.
The video is about camera work, and as for the few gags shown at the end, what about them?
>The video is about camera work
it really isn't and you just wanna say it is because it makes defending your position easier.
The truth is you have nothing to say in response to my comment, so you're just gonna keep repeating yourself in hopes that what you say magical becomes true.
It has a few visual gags in the end but the vast majority of it is about camera work.
>The truth is you have nothing to say in response to my comment
What are you even talking about?
>Now you're just sperging out.
No I'm not, but you are.
>No meaningful refutations of the webm itself
A complete lie, the classic Cinemaphile "uuhh akshually you didn't make any arguments in this thread."
Hey remember what I said about your poser accusation? You failed the test. You concede the argument and admit that I'm right. You cannot argue against this, no matter what you say. You accepted the terms and conditions.
>no u
Like I said, sperging out
Do you have ANYTHING at all that refutes the webm or the arguments induced from it?
Anything? Because all you've done is try to discredit it with false accusations (that are proven false by the webm itself) and whataboutery
You're a clown.
I win.
I mean the whole franchise is mecha-adjacent; the movie might be less so, the show might be more so. Anyone who enjoys mecha animation will enjoy Ghost In The Shell. Same with some like Casshan or Cybercity Oedo.
You could only argue that it is "post-cyberpunk" on the grounds that the Major, going from the 1996 film to Innocence, becomes a fully-fledged post-human, and on the grounds that it depicts trans-robotic heroes in the Tachikomas.
Otherwise, it's just regular cyberpunk.
Sorry but you conceded the argument. You had the opportunity to avoid this situation and an opportunity to prove your accusation or retract it, but you chose to concede. No refunds.
You've conceded by not refuting the evidence presented.
I win.
>It isn't disingenuous, it's the truth. Those are common, generic camera angles.
>It's picking common, generic camera angles and using them to construct the false narrative that anime is extremely, exceptionally repetitive in its camera work.
Disingenuous, no live action show works with those exact same angles. If you created a webm of every major live action show in the past 5 years, you would be hard pressed to find many that line up 1-to-1, much less any that are identical, as has been shown in the webm.
The webm proves, quite soundly, that anime is exceptionally repetitive in the use of ubiquitous camera angles and visual cliches/gags.
>No. That is called the Obari pose and has been a long-standing tradition in anime.
False, it is called the Brave Stance.
Name your favorite Obari work right now or be called a poser.
False, the video is about more than camera work.
Those are common, generic camera angles. Characters facing each other as the camera looks on. Closeups as the characters are talking or showing an emotion. This is standard stuff.
>The webm proves, quite soundly, that anime is exceptionally repetitive in the use of ubiquitous camera angles and visual cliches/gags.
This is projection by seething Cinemaphile users.
>False, it is called the Brave Stance.
It has different names including the Obari pose, which is the name I've learned it as.
>Name your favorite Obari work right now or be called a poser.
It's completely irrelevant what, if anything, is my favorite Obari pose. I am simply telling you the fact that it's the Obari pose.
>False, the video is about more than camera work.
No it isn't.
>Those are common, generic camera angles. Characters facing each other as the camera looks on. Closeups as the characters are talking or showing an emotion. This is standard stuff.
Disingenous, the fact that they are identical is the focus of the webm.
>This is projection by seething Cinemaphile users.
Fallacious argument, doesn't refute or even address the argument. The only way to actually address the argument would be to put together a collage, or montage, of various different camera angles depicting the same situation, and a means by which to refute the ubiquity of those same visual gags/cliches as are depicted in the webm.
>It has different names including the Obari pose, which is the name I've learned it as.
>It's completely irrelevant what, if anything, is my favorite Obari pose. I am simply telling you the fact that it's the Obari pose.
You're a poser
>No it isn't.
It is, it includes visual cliches and gags that are also ubiquitous to such anime as are the subject of the webm.
They are identical because they are common, generic shots that you can see all the time.
>Fallacious argument, doesn't refute or even address the argument.
The fact is that some Cinemaphile user made that webm because it made him seethe that anime has much, much richer camera work than his American shows, which have notoriously repetitive camera work.
>You're a poser
I never claimed to be an Obari fan. I never claimed to have special knowledge of him. I only told you the truth that it's the Obari pose. What exactly are you trying to do here?
>It is, it includes visual cliches and gags that are also ubiquitous to such anime as are the subject of the webm.
Oh I guess there are some gags at the very end, but that's a whole other topic.
>They are identical because they are common, generic shots that you can see all the time.
That is not what identical means. At most you could argue they are symmetric. Yet, as you can clearly see, they are congruent.
>The fact is that some Cinemaphile user made that webm because it made him seethe that anime has much, much richer camera work than his American shows, which have notoriously repetitive camera work.
That is irrelevant to the argument, it is whataboutery.
How do you know this btw? very sus
>I never claimed to be an Obari fan. I never claimed to have special knowledge of him. I only told you the truth that it's the Obari pose. What exactly are you trying to do here?
Poser lol
>Oh I guess there are some gags at the very end, but that's a whole other topic.
No it isn't. The subject of contention is the webm.
>The video is about camera work
false
They are generic, common shots. There are thousands and thousands of anime that use all kinds of camera angles/shots, and inevitably you will find these simple shots all the time. They are not going to make every single shot some weird angle just to be different.
>That is irrelevant to the argument, it is whataboutery.
No, it's me explaining what this whole thing is really about.
>Poser lol
Show me where I said that I'm an Obari fan or that I possess special knowledge of him, or something like that. All I did was say that it's the Obari pose--what evidence do you have to the contrary?
>No it isn't. The subject of contention is the webm.
Yes it is. Gags and camera angles are not the same thing.
>false
No.
>They are generic, common shots. There are thousands and thousands of anime that use all kinds of camera angles/shots, and inevitably you will find these simple shots all the time. They are not going to make every single shot some weird angle just to be different.
Fallacy by assertion
>No, it's me explaining what this whole thing is really about.
It is whataboutery and not relevant to what is being controverted
>Show me where I said that I'm an Obari fan or that I possess special knowledge of him, or something like that. All I did was say that it's the Obari pose--what evidence do you have to the contrary?
keep posing
>Yes it is. Gags and camera angles are not the same thing.
Yet those are both within the webm, and you are controverting whether the webm is representative of the anime which is depicted therein.
You have made too many fallacious statements for me to consider you to be arguing in good faith. In fact, I would say, at this point? You are arguing in bad faith, making assertion fallacies because you know that my argument is irrefutably correct.
Ergo, I have won.
There is nothing false about what I said.
>It is whataboutery and not relevant to what is being controverted
It's not "whataboutery." Some butthurt Cinemaphile user made the video, which uses dishonest cherry-picking and misrepresentation, to project American animation's failures on anime.
>keep posing
If your next post does not make a serious, good faith attempt at proving your claim that I'm a poser, or does not retract the claim, you immediately concede the argument regardless of anything else you say.
>Yet those are both within the webm, and you are controverting whether the webm is representative of the anime which is depicted therein.
Of course it isn't representative of the anime in the video, it just picks single shots from each other.
>You have made too many fallacious statements for me to consider you to be arguing in good faith.
>You are arguing in bad faith, making assertion fallacies because you know that my argument is irrefutably correct.
Ridiculous projection.
>Ergo, I have won.
No you haven't.
I have seen far more of them than you ever will, so don't think that you will be able to trick me.
*from each of them
Now you're just sperging out.
No meaningful refutations of the webm itself, just assertions left and right.
I win
>I have seen far more of them than you ever will, so don't think that you will be able to trick me.
Then you are either blind or willfully ignorant. And if the end effects of tranime is becoming a mass replying, reddit spacing gay like you then it's probably for the best people stay away from it.
I am neither blind or ignorant, unlike you.
>tranime
Oh look it's yet another /lgbt/ troon here to shit up the board and argue in bad faith. Feels like most of the users here are from /lgbt/ now.
>much richer camera work than his American shows, which have notoriously repetitive camera work.
You have never seen an anime made past 2015 have you?
I have never heard of a live action show where the main character develops emoticon like facial expressions whenever they're reacting to something. This is entirely an anime thing.
Then you must not have seen a lot of anime.
The world doesn't revolve around weebs.
Then so is everything else.
>Then so is everything else.
that doesn't logically follow
it follows from everything else being just as bad
That's not a logical statement either
>there isn't any reason why the same wouldn't apply to everything else too.
That doesn't logically follow
If I make the statement that all ticks are parasitic arachnids does that mean every living organism is a parasitic arachnid?
Sure it does. If all anime is declared juvenile trash then there isn't any reason why the same wouldn't apply to everything else too.
WEEBS BE LIKE
>THE MC TELLS HIS BACKSTORY FOR 5 MIN WHILE DOING KARATE SHIT
>wow this is so deep, this is high art, i´m impressed!!!!
Show me where I said something like that.
BUT THE ANIME PUSSY THO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Show me where I said something like that.
UUUUUOOOOHHHH!!!!!!
Are you having a psychotic episode?
you have to be this oldgay to post here
What are you talking about?
Sophisticated Cinemaphile poster
Reddit be like
>Reddit be like
With mods, every game I play also does it.
to disguise as a sex bot and infiltrate and/or assassinate
glowies will absolutely make them
Dude, it's cyberpunk. Anything goes.
the major in the show's appearance was a total downgrade from movie major, who also dressed scantily but somehow had more class about it. also the purple hair sucked
absolutely no soul in this comment. dead already
>who also dressed scantily
She gets naked a bunch, but her civilian clothes in the movie don't count as dressed scantily imo.
For horny weebs to jerk off to while insisting its totally real art and super deep and thought provoking.
>watch SAC
>the chief is explaining some complex political stuff
>the majors ass fills half the shot
It's just the best way to keep the full audience invested in the scene tbh
Maybe if audience is full of 13 year olds
gay
The stand alone complex seasons are the best cyberpunk ever made, though.
The primary purpose of tranime is to sell merch to otaku.
She's a cyborg (99.9% machine at that). Anyone objecting to her dress code can bite her shiny metal arse.
she's also one of the first and has been one since childhood. she just doesn't think like a human.
She's not even a cyborg anymore, she's just a copy of a mind transferred to a machine... "Ghost in a Shell"
Anon, I think you misunderstood what the “ghost” is.
Why not.
isn't that technically a skin tight Thermoptic camouflage suit?
Her skin is the camo suit.
well yes and no. in the iconic scene of her jumping off the building it is assumed to be built in but in this scene you can see she is wearing some form of exterior device that appears to be either doing all the work or simply assisting.
?t=313
also at 7:09 you can see a seam on her neck indicating some form of skin tight suit.
She's canonically a prostitute.
Only in Oshii's movies
>nudity
Enjoy your ban!
Fricking braindead mutt-bred moronic frickface.
No, she isn't naked during this beautifully animated sequence. She's a wearing a fricking THERMOPTIC CAMOUFLAGE SUIT that just happens to be flesh colored, idiot. It's a skin-tight uniform which requires you to wear nothing underneath & blends environmental colors with light defraction in order for her to turn fricking invisible. I'm sick to shit of you fricking butthorn cum-wasted homosexualS who don't understand this scene. Frick you all, seriously.
Teacher! Anon has his Gameboy in his backpack!
would have been a lot easier and safer to just shoot the guy from one of the adjacent buildings
not as cool though
yeh but thats not very cool
Don't be silly that would be boring
The only way to be sure a terrorist is dead is to put your fist through his skull and grab his brain and crush it.
Everything else is guessing because you evac'd after you took the shot. People survive being shot.
she doesnt have any connection with the "human" body and has been like 95% cyberised since she was a kid, also it allows her to have the highest range of motion in her limbs.
It’s why the manga is the best form, it makes it clear she likes to show off her body and look hot, most of the adaptations make her all depressing.
>it makes it clear she likes to show off her body and look hot,
yes, and she's also the best of the best so i mean are you really going to tell her no?
The major's body is the major's clothes, we never see the major nude because whoever, whatever the major is, it isn't the shell. The loose attire is no more indicative of a moral failing to the major than putting kick ass murals on a van and this is a reminder to the audience that the people we are seeing are produced by a culture that has a different value of the human form.
You fricking Black person
Why are there so many anime threads
Summergays
Someone had the idea that since anime is technically Cinemaphile, they could just post it here instead of the board FOR anime
Because Cinemaphile is sick off goyslop like capeshit and the boys.
there is a chance motoko is male.
the most obvious point would be that she only bangs female looking cyborgs.
than she is in a job and position mostly attended by males.
it could be like if you're starting a game and choose a female character so you could see a sexy avatar insted of a male bloke.
in the ghost in the shell world there would be no disadvantage in intelligence or strength just because you use a famle body. so maybe he just want to see a sexy woman evertytime he looks in the mirror?
im pretty sure this is disproven in sac and arise or whatever its called.
>i chose to be a female robot to look at a girl's ass in the mirror
Wasn't her choice. As a child was the sole survivor of an airplane crash left with a totally mangled body to the point the kid couldn't even be identified, and they decided to use her as a guinea pig for full body replacement cybernetics.
>airplane crash
i thought it was a car crash?
IIRC that's correct as of SAC:2nd GIG.
me every single game I play
The only kind of troony I approve of.
So you approve of nearly every single one?
No. I'm okay with males in female bodies. Trannies are males in mutilated male bodies.
Other characters encourage her to switch to a male prosthetic body for increased performance. She turns down the idea saying that a female body has its own advantages. Then she proceeds to seduce information out of someone or something.
She is weaponizing her sexuality. A man might be less likely to shoot an attractive woman. That's a combat advantage.
>the most obvious point would be that she only bangs female looking cyborgs.
She has a boyfriend at some point in the manga.
Educate yourself you ignorant frick.
also lesbians are pretty common even in our current society.
>there is a chance motoko is male.
there's a chance she's a marshmallow
She makes jokes about the noise in her brain being from "that time of the month"; a left over from when she was human. The reason they try to convince her to switch to a male chassis is that it's physically bigger, and thus has more room for mechanics, which makes it stronger.
>a left over from when she was human
she was put in a full cybernetic body before puberty tho right?
>Motoko becomes a cyborg when her brain is put into a robotic body in order to save her life after a childhood accident that nearly killed her at age nine.
i doubt she would have memory of her period
there is zero chance motoko is male, she gets periods and in SAC she is explicitly shown to be a girl in the flashbacks
kys troony
Wrong, this is her and Kuze before they both got wrecked. She even has a similar haircut.
>Wrong, this is her and Kuze before they both got wrecked. She even has a similar haircut.
While she was stated to be a girl in that episode, that is not necessarily what they looked like before the accident.
Those were their first prosthetic bodies they received after the accident.
Either way, Kuze would be the only one who saw her before their accident. Considering their emotionally distressed sexual tension I highly doubt Kuze is into troons.
The Major's cyborg body is a generic model that anyone on the market can buy. It has no resemblance to her previous self
>it could be like if you're starting a game and choose a female character so you could see a sexy avatar insted of a male bloke.
Literally every time I've heard someone make this fallacy they end up becoming trans or are clearly closeted with dysmorphia.
You're moronic.
Nah mate, I'm not coping with
>It's actually more straight to imagine myself as a hot lesbian girl
>Haha in a game all about immersion and self-insertion as your avatar to the point that people know you more as your character than as the actual player (Unless playing with friends IRL) I exclusively choose to play as a female character and that makes me even more straight than you.
Yeah you're fine. If it's literally there's no option (Tomb Raider) or the option is intensely tied to actual content and gameplay (Jill/Claire or 2B) then that's normal. If you play as a female character once and awhile in an RPG that's fine too. If your alter ego in every RPG/MMO you play is always a female character then it's a little suspicious but short of any additional info you're fine.
If your alter ego in every RPG/MMO you play is female and you rationalize it with the aforementioned fallacies then yeah you're a ticking time bomb.
You're moronic.
To be fair when I play resident evil 1 I always play as jill because she’s the easy mode
In every adaptation, she's shown to have an interest in men ONLY. The literal reason why she fricks women in the manga is because rhe mangaka said he didnt feel like drawing male asses.
>>In every adaptation, she's shown to have an interest in men ONLY.
/thread
If you are so offended by this thread then go somewhere else.
She is bisexual. Was a girl who survived a plain crash. One of the firs full body cyborgs. As far as far as i know she is a grandma by now maybe older. Even Batou teases her, why don't she have a male cyborg body.
In the second season, we get to see her as a human e-girl, prior to her getting a new body.
You know now that you mention it she does kinda look like Suzi Hunter from a certain point of view. Probably the bangs. I’ll give you that.
She looked so much better in the original movie
Wrong.
She dresses like that less and less as the series goes on and they got more confident in retaining an audience without the crutch of shameless cheesecake.
Maybe it made her feel sexy
Is the manga even good? Anime is probably better because it's Oshii, but is the manga at least worth reading?
The author is a huge BBC obsessed cuck.
>Is the manga even good?
I liked it, but it has a very different tone.
Has a lot of comedy and even more fan service and fetish stuff.
In depth technical details about how everything works.
You will recognize some of the plots that were used by the various anime.
Its better than the shit spoonfeeding movie.
No. The art is nice, but Shirow copypast blocks of text from his research and adds le quirky character interjections. It's pretty terrible. His art is nice even if he crowds the frick out of his pages.
The manga spoonfeeds as well.
>rewatching 2nd Gig
>The Individual Eleven are all incels
lmfao
>2045
>everyone loses and gets stuck in the Matrix
>real Purin is dead and Batou is left with an android counterfeit
what did they mean by this?
huh?
the Major doesn't pull the plug and she gets stuck in the Matrix too. Purinbot is reconstructed from diaries and does not have a ghost.
which media is this in, i never read the manga.
CGI netflix SAC sequel.
I was just thinking about this shit ending the other night. Please stop
I don't listen to jannies and I sure as hell am not going to listen to a backseat janny.
>replying to shills
EVERY shitpost deserves a reply
>complaining about anime on an indonesian pottery glazing website
Anime is reddit.
>Why did she dress like this while everyone else dressed in normal military gear
anime is juvenile trash
Because original Motoko is a giant bawd and a functioning alcoholic. Oshii's movie while great is unironically a loosely related fanfic.
>loosely related fanfic.
isn't that most adaptations of gits?
Yes. The original manga was much funnier. The movies and anime decided to delve into the post-humanism more than the comedy.
>more than the comedy.
there are a ton of goofy moments in the anime?
The anime does have some comedy, but it still leans pretty heavy on the "am I still human?" themes.
Good. Japanese "comedy" is fricking cringe
Correct, but at least SAC has their og personalities more or less intact, even if toned down. PS1 game is still the most faithful adaptation of GITS to date. And yes, picrelated is really what the Major is supposed to be, she was never an autistic robot in the manga.
is the full manga series easily available in english?
Yes
for thermo camo stuff. cant spend 10 minutes unbuckling gear. she wore military dress for formal occasions.
that motoko is the hottest one too
She was drawn by hentai artist
all this is wrong btw
she's a bawd and makes herself look like a bawd because she's a bawd
Bato knows
because she’s detached from normal human dogma like “appropriate dress”. When you’re in a robot and have been trading bodies up since childhood, I’d imagine you don’t get socialized sexually the way others do.
it's section 9 protocol. the sexy cyborg has to show off the goods
Have you read the manga? Major likes her body and knows perfectly well that it's a hot as frick pleasure model, using it to her advantage. The whole "my shell is just a piece of metal" existential autism came with Oshii's movies.
I cri every tiem
>I cri every tiem
same
It was done because she's the main female of the show, they need her to be sexy and hot but It comes off as weird because she works as a police.
But you don't see this happening in other shows. It's not some custom for female MCs.
It does logically follow. Since it isn't true that all anime is juvenile trash, there isn't any reason why the statement can't be applied to all things.
>It does logically follow. Since it isn't true that all anime is juvenile trash, there isn't any reason why the statement can't be applied to all things.
I just showed you why it can't be applied to all things, you're making an assertion fallacy.
I win
It's logically irrefutable that the statement can be applied to all things. There isn't any reason why it couldn't.
What the hell are you talking about?
I logically refuted it already
another assertion fallacy from you
I keep winning
Show me where you think you logically refuted it (because you didn't).
You can try rereading the thread
the thread I won
/thread
>What the hell are you talking about?
What he's getting at is that the Major is entirely dissociated from her physical form. She sees herself as the data contained within the cyberbrain, the body that she rides might as well be a sex doll as far as she is concerned. Zero care or respect for what it looks like, because it isn't her.
She's a covert government agent and she puts on proper clothes from season two onwards.
Yes it is a refusal. You claimed you had the proof, I asked where, you refused to answer. Even now you are just dancing around instead of giving the proof you claim to have.
>I win so many times
Based on what? You have no evidence. You have refused to give evidence.
>she puts on proper clothes from season two onwards.
Only because they made her
She also wears a combat suit/outfit when necessary in the first season, or puts on normal civilian clothes, and probably wore her military/official uniform in the first season. There just isn't any deep reason for why she goes around in her underwear most of the time.
>Based on what? You have no evidence. You have refused to give evidence.
False
I have evidence
I have shown you where it is
you just can't read
I keep winning
Where did you show me?
>I keep winning
Not until you show me the evidence (and it is actual evidence).
It is in this thread
>(and it is actual evidence)
lol no true scotsman shifting the goalposts
I win again
If I tell you that I have completely forgotten what you two are arguing about or what side you have taken, will you stop posting?
Because I have.
Nope
>What? Obviously the evidence needs to prove your position before it allows you to win the argument.
disingenuous, feigning ignorance
>not until you produce the evidence.
I have
therefor I win
How am I disingenuous? How am I feigning ignorance?
>I have
Where?
>therefor I win
Not until you show me the evidence.
>Where?
Multiple times I have reiterated, the evidence is in this very thread
Reread the post chain
I win
Where in this thread? Link to the post or quote the evidence.
>lol no true scotsman shifting the goalposts
What? Obviously the evidence needs to prove your position before it allows you to win the argument.
>I win again
Again, not until you produce the evidence.
Which anyone with even casual interest in the character knows is obviously wrong. She goes out of her way to deliberately look a specific way and responds very aggressively to anyone who doesn't like that.
Which should be obvious literally just by looking at her for two seconds. She's a battlefield unit who looks like a moronic prostitute. Obviously she doesn't do that because it's practical. And she gets away with it because she's a mary sue. Okay, I'm being flip, but she's insanely overpowered in all the adaptations (dunno about the manga). She *is* section 9. Without her it doesn't exist. If the entire rest of the unit had to fight her she'd probably win. So they get her run around in her prostitute model. She's worth it.
The manga is literally just softcore porn
Using a human body is moronic. A crab/spider shaped robot with a turret would be more effective for combat. Use two humanlike arms in it instead of a turret if you really want that human interfacing capability instead. But human shaped robots are fricking dumb. Ghost in the Shell is more overrated than Serial Experiments Lain.
GITS is not Doom. They don't just go around shooting at things all the time. They are government public security agents. They have actual spider tanks for when they need the firepower.
>They have actual spider tanks for when they need the firepower.
one of my main connections to gits is watching tachikoma's get annihilated by superior firepower
?t=24
?t=202
what kind of a civie life could she have as a fricking crab tank, and they DO have thinking crab tanks - but they aren't(probably) human like the major(hopefully) is.
Human in non-human body would get fricked up pretty quickly psychologically.
bot?
Yes, I've seen it in other threads.
Randomly reposts over and over like
Technically autismos are human
anime website
ok you convinced me, i must start hrt asap
Because this show is supposed to MAKE FRICKING MONEY
people are supposed to SPEND THAT GREEN ON IT
how are you gonna go and GET SOME CASH if you're not willing to put in work to get it
So you can't show me? Ok, concession accepted.
I already won bro, it's nice of you to concede.
Thanks for finally giving up.
See
You said you had refuted me. I asked you to show where. You refused. How is that not a concession?
You already read it. It's in the thread, you know where it is.
>You refused
False
I always win
It's not false. I asked you to show me, and you didn't. You concede.
> I asked you to show me, and you didn't.
Not a refusal, I win
purposefully ignoring evidence on your part too,
I win so many times
Is there any recommended anime from not so long ao with adult protagonists like the Major? I'm 30, can't relate much to high school teenage protagonists with their emotional angst and ridiculous "problems", they just get on my nerves these days.
Haibane renemei has children, but touches on more adult themes and is uniquely comfy. Kino's journey has an older female protagonist as well.
theres another work from the same author
appleseed
if u enjoy gits u will most likely enjoy it
I was a teen at the time but the episode where they tried to frick that one cop in court because he used a revolver instead of some standard issue gun really fricked my head up.
I think that's when I realized the world was not good. We've been with him the whole show and he's been nothing but a great human and they try to frick everything up in court because they're evil pieces of shit.
She's an actual bawd who's body is literally copied from a prostitute model. Also she's willing to frick little boys.
>bawd who's body is literally copied from a prostitute model
I am going to do this in the cyberpunk future.
Yes, that's what I posted. So how was it not a concession? Are you going to concede a second time by not answering this question?
Anime website. Also you will NEVER be a woman.
By the way, guys?
This thread?
Full of LOSERS. LOOOOOOOSERS! HAHAHA! FRICKIN LOSERS RIGHT HERE! MOTHERFRICKERS! LOOOOOL
FRICK ANIME
Yes I'd frick anime
What would anime look like a s a person,
Yes, i want to frick Motoko.
I fricking hate ss shit so much, why do normalgays love it?
>ass shit
we like the ass, not the shit
it's not normalgays, it's sissies afraid of taking the male role, instead forcing the woman to do so
>sissies afraid of taking the male role
It would be pretty difficult to "out-man" the Major, tho.
>burgeoning teen entering the world of sexuality for the first time.
>An experienced older woman is their first partner, showing them the ropes
>Both parties are getting what they want instead of two virgins learning together
Hot
>i consent
>i consent
>anon: Reeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
>I think I'll pass
Was he gay?
No, just a scared virgin.
>Motoko: Care to find out?
>Boy: *Looks at her up and down in bed then screen fades to black*
The local brothel offered sex dolls, once. The offer disappeared after a week or so. I guess no one was interested.
Maaan this reminded me just how variable the animation in that series was. When it was good, it was good, but when it sucked, boy did it suck
seethe
lol at no one stating the plain truth that the major is an exhibitionist pervert
oh wait i missed this guy
>same 2 schizos every thread.
shame.
>tranime
>western tv: filled with actual trannies, Black folk, and homosexuals
>anime: filled with whatever the creators fetish was
Hmm
She's a prostitute.
The manga is incredibly horny and not nearly as serious as film and show adaptations.
But aside from that, it's an unspoken rule of being cyborg.
Things that matter for organic beings, like practical clothing that protects your body or helps with different environmental conditions ceases to matter.
Her body is durable, her remaining organic bits are under climate control. She basically can wear anything, anywhere and be fine. I imagine that in the progress of cybernetics in the GitS universe this lack of care was a gradual thing.
I mean it's legal to have a cybernetic body look like anything at that point and that's one of the conflicts of the show. You stop caring about shit you would care about as a normal human and this is the kind of shit that spooks even the Major. It's why Batou jogs and works out despite his cybernetic body permanently working at peak performance.
She still looks like a human and has to blend in in the same social spaces as anyone else. Her colleagues also don't make bizarre fashion decisions.
I am giving you one last chance: where is the evidence you claim to have? Unless your next post is a serious, good faith attempt at producing the evidence, you concede the argument. No buts, no ifs, no excuses. You claim to have the evidence, so you must present it. Do anything else and you concede the argument. Go.
I am not obligated to produce you a link when you can just click up the post chain
doubling down on your feigned ignorance only means you are an actual dumdum
therefor I win
You concede the argument. Try to make better decisions next time.
I always get the last laugh. You have refused to acknowledge the evidence presented and thus have conceded to me.
As always, I win.
You didn't present the evidence, despite me asking many, many times for you to do so.
I don't know how I always end up getting tangled up with the worst schizophrenics on the site.
>still giving me you's
>still claiming I didn't refute his argument in post number 170860987, exactly when he started pretending that no evidence was presented
>pretends he can't read a comment chain
>continues to feign ignorance
>after I mogg him one last time he gives up with one final ad hominem fallacy
Win
>still giving me you's
Oh, so you're admitting to being a troll. That means that everything you've said so far can be discarded. None of it was serious or meant anything, it was all just something you made up to get replies.
not an admission to being a troll
that's another disingenuous fallacy from you
also
>not acknowledging the evidence even after your entire plan to feign ignorance in the hopes that your opponent gives up forcing you to look the thread in its face fails and you get embarrassed
I win
thanks for admitting to being a loser
You did admit to being a troll, and you can't take it back now. And now I'm not going to respond to you any further, which means that *I* win. The fail condition for a troll is to be exposed as a troll and stop getting replies. You idiot.
>You did admit to being a troll, and you can't take it back now
Admitting that you're still replying to me after I won the argument in the hopes I'll pretend I didn't is not admitting to being a troll
The fact that you've given up responding to me means that your original plan of avoiding the evidence has failed, and thus I've gotten the last word, after having presented the evidence on my own terms, evidence that invalidates your entire argument.
*I* Win
as always
the narrative premise of Innocence is about gynoids, go watch that.
These arguments avoid the most important point of that episode. First of all those two bodies are both old cyborg bodies for children; that's why they are there.
More importantly, the narrator EXPLICITLY states that before they were cyberized, ONE was a girl, and ONE was a boy. So, unless KUZE was a girl, which there is no evidence of, Motoko MUST be the girl from that crash.
Remember that one president of some cybernetic corporations that's literally inside of a mini spider tank? He jokes about his wife b***hing about it.
He can legally go around and live day to day as tiny little spider robot.
I mean you can't legally hook your cyber brain into a fricking tank like that one early episode of SAC but if you want to go robot spider you can.
Makoto & co are government agents and they have AI tanks that they can summon when needed.
I was talking about how that one guy was using a tiny little yellow robot as a body, just because he could.
I can hear the music and sound effects even without sound.
i get that when i dont take my meds
Oh cool its the first mission from eye divine cybermancy
Even late-stage 2D with digital colouring has so much more soul than the best 3DCG, how do we make new hand-drawn animation kino happen? It had such a short-lived golden age, there's no way we can leave it at that when there's so much untapped potential for sci-fi, fantasy, and historical epics in the only visual medium to be able to blend realistic and fantastical elements together truly seamlessly in the same frame.
Kuze and Kusanagi are a split ghost, only one child was critically injured in the plane crash, one is automatically a troon
Uhh Kuze was less damaged than Motoko and was paralyzed everywhere but his left arm. Your theory makes zero sense.
I like spider tanks.
Why are you gay ? In the anime she knows , let's keep it that way.
Does GiTS ever get into the social ramification of sex bots? You see automated prostitutes frequently throughout the series. Not cyborgs, 100% artificial bawds that only want to frick.
Yet biological women still exist and have to out compete them, which is probably hard since the synthetic women are going to universally better.
So what do they do? Get synthetic bodies and create babies artificially in a tube?
>Does GiTS ever get into the social ramification of sex bots?
I don't think so.
A little, although no in the way you describe.
There is an episode where a bunch of wealthy men get together and show off their sexbots and they discuss the fetish of bots over real women.
An episode where sex bots start self destructing although I don't remember why.
The 2nd movie is about a company using kidnapped girls as a short-cut to Ai development for sexbots. The plot is in the Manga as well.
Togusa has a wife and kids, but they don't imply anything odd about it, instead Togusa is treated as the normal one compared to the rest of section 9.
Sexo. Me like.
Me also like manga, 1995 movie, Innocence, SAC and SSS movie. The rest I ignore.
I guess when you’re the best you can dress however you want. The creators seemed to realize it was stupid since they gave her actual pants in season 2.
Are the operators anatomically correct
Pretty sure Gynoids are all equipped with the basics. It's probably all standardized. You buy a body, then you buy a brain.
They were successfully used in the episode centering on rich sexbot fetishists, so probably.
Didn’t bother reading the thread but if I remember correctly, it’s because she doesn’t think of her body “as her own” so to speak, so she doesn’t respect it.
That show is so unintentionally hilarious. Except when it's trying to be funny - with the jar jar binks robots that act "cute" and bump into walls and go "woopsy xDD" , then it's just awful.
My other fave moment is when someone is trying to sneak into a heavily guarded compound. There are robot dogs patrolling the grounds. A robot dog tries to sneak up behind the intruder, but accidentally gives away its position because someone programmed it to make loud dog noises like barking and growling. Frick i haven't laughed that hard in a long time.
The komas aren't supposed to be funny, you're supposed to want to frick them.
The reveal of her not wearing any pants in that scene is like something out of a Naked Gun movie, it's fricking hysterical. But they didn't do it on purpose, it was a complete accident - the creators are not that clever.
it's a coomer's agp fantasy
She doesnt give a frick, she sees her body as a tool...so frick it, she does her job well an that it was matters to her.
Because she can. I would too if I was allowed to.
Live action when
They did one. With Scarlett Johansson.
We have live action at home.
ok and?
I am having an argument with my friend so I want input from other people who have seen GITS.
Is Ghost in the Shell mecha series?
No
No, it's post-cyberpunk.
The frick's post about it?
Lest dystopic than cyberpunk. Of course not a utopia like Star Trek, but somewhere in between.
The protagonists are part of the MIC instead of opposing it.
The future in Ghost in the Shell is pretty fricking bleak, I'd say the only characteristic that actually might be considered post-cyberpunk is lack of cliched anti-consumerism tripe. Just because protagonists are part of MIC doesn't mean anything, that's like saying Blade Runner is post-cyberpunk because Deckard is a cop.
I'd argue it is mecha-adjacent
it's regular cyberpunk
one of the few works that is actual cyberpunk too
The way I see it is that it's mecha tbh. My friend's claim is that it's not mecha because main characters aren't piloting any robots, but mechs, mecha-like things and such are very strongly prevalent throughout the series in all of its forms. So, the way I see it, is that Hideo Kojima has Metal Gear Solid and Zone of the Enders, and latter no one would argue is a mecha game, but in former you don't even get to pilot Metal Gear, the whole point of each game is its destruction, but just because mechas aren't being piloted by main characters, does it really mean that it's not mecha? I don't think so. And same logic is for GITS, although Motoko never pilots the spider-tank at the climax of the movie, big part of the movie is taking it down, it is a prevalent element in the entire movie and one of the most iconic fights in anime history. It's definitely mecha I think.
Are you really going to recommend GITS to someone looking for mecha anime, i.e. anime like Gundam, Patlabor and NGE, just because of one fight against a spider tank at the end of the movie?
Yes, because I am person who was recommended to watch Gits by my friend who is into Gundam with me.
Who let the paragraph typing homosexual loose and why is he here?
Same reason the Major goes for deep swims in water. She's deeply alienated by her own existence as a cyborg, which is the entire personal plot-level of the movie, her ghost is trapped inside her machine, thats why she merges with the puppet master in the end.
We went through this several times in the thread. This just doesn't hold water.
where
She wears other outfits during the series.
Its not about the series. The movie is distinctly different in its tone and interpretation of the base material. The show stays closer to the tone of the manga, whereas the film centered on certain elements (the political and existencial dimension). The Major is shown as a person who seeks out danger without regard for her personal safety, in essence lives on the edge, her outfit and the initial nudity stres this and i think its likely that the decision on the design of her appearance followed a similiar discussion.
We are talking about SAC, and in the movie she doesn't dress weird.
No, you didn't. I specifically asked you more than once to prove it, and you refused. Even at the last moment you refused. And it's too late now. You conceded. That was your choice that you freely made.
>No, you didn't. I specifically asked you more than once to prove it, and you refused
It is easy for you to reread the thread, and see how I have proven my accusation.
I've won.
Ok, I will permit you another chance for the sake of comedy. Show me this evidence. Remember: serious, good faith replies only. Anything else and you double concede. No bullshit like "uuuhh just read the thread."
>"uuuhh just read the thread."
Read the thread. You were proven to be a poser in the very infancy of the comment chain.
And there it is: another concession. I graciously granted you another chance and once again warned you of the consequences, and once again you couldn't help yourself. You really are unbelievably inept and stupid.
>You really are unbelievably inept and stupid.
Ironic coming from someone who can't read.
I win, as always.
How are you winning after conceding twice? I genuinely don't understand your thought process.
I never conceded. You admitted through your ignorance that you don't have any reading comprehension. That, or you're ESL.
I've won.
You made a nonsensical accusation you didnt't explain. I several times asked you to explain it, and ultimately told you that it's your last chance before conceding. You refused. I then gave you another chance later with the same conditions, and once again you refused and conceded. How does this result in you winning?
>You made a nonsensical accusation you didnt't explain.
You shouldn't need this explained to you unless you're under 4 years old.
You're a moron having a spergout.
I told you that the poses were called the Obari pose. You then started insisting that I must tell you my favorite Obari pose or I'm a poser. You didn't explain the logic behind this at all (what does it matter what, if anything, is my favorite? What's the relevance?). Now, somehow, you have "won." Huh?
*my favorite Obari work
>spelled it out and didn't understand it
autism, gotta be
Spelled out what? You didn't explain anything. I'm a poser because I know what the Obari pose is? Huh?
Lol
you can feign ignorance as much as you want; you clearly get it
I've won
What ignorance? You didn't explain anything. Nothing. Even when I asked you many times. The frick?
I like the episode where the tanks start to become sentient.
Because Ghost in the Shell is hentai that is made by hentai artist.
Stand Alone Complex was made by different people, loosely based on the original manga. It isn't a hentai. And hentai characters usually wear normal clothes anyway.
You conceded by refusing to honestly either prove your accusation or retract it. You had every opportunity to avoid this outcome. No refunds.
>You conceded by refusing to honestly either prove your accusation or retract it. You had every opportunity to avoid this outcome. No refunds.
I've already proven my accusation.
I win
>And hentai characters usually wear normal clothes anyway
They do, and you'd know that if you had any experience with hentai other than memes about hentai.
Attractive women know they can get their way easier by acting and dressing loose. Pretty simple.
t. friends are bawds