Why did the Buu Saga filter so many people?

Why did the Buu Saga filter so many people?

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  1. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Why didn't Goku just use a Spirit Bomb the first time he fought Buu?

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      because shut up

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      Because there was no one to protect him while he gathered the energy.

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      There's so many points where the story could have ended easily but Toriyama needlessly expanded it.

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      Goku is the equivalent of a guy who buys ammo for a civil war hoping he’ll get to use it. The only chance he gets to use his toys is when there’s an existential threat to others, because it often correlates with him getting stronger and making progress.

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      AKSHUALLY he could have took out fat buu when he went SS3 but he wanted the younger generation to be stronger so they could take on threats to earth when he wasn't there, so he made two 8 year olds fight instead.

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      Kid Buu is weaker hence why he was able to fight him at all. Kid Buu is dangerous because he's a completely mindless psychopath who would destroy the universe for no reason at the drop of a hat.

      • 1 week ago
        Anonymous

        >Kid Buu is weaker hence why he was able to fight him at all.
        No, he is stronger. Kid Buu lacks the South Supreme Kai's powers which were actually nerfing his strength.

        • 1 week ago
          Anonymous

          Incorrect. Buuhan is the strongest form of Buu in the Entire Fight. When Fat Buu splits and gets absorbed by Evil Buu, the child like nature that nerfed him goes out the window. Now he is all Power. He actually takes a nerf going from Buutenks to Buuiccolo, but then gets a buff as Buuhan. Buuhan is Peak Buu.

          • 1 week ago
            Anonymous

            i'm baffled by how many people think kid buu is stronger than buuhan. he is more DANGEROUS because he lacks and defies logic and only has destruction on his mind, whereas super buu and all of his absorption forms have human intellect. that doesn't make kid buu stronger however, just more dangerous in the sense that he destroys galaxies on a whim without second thought. both buutenks and buuhan would wipe the floor with him and the fact that buutenks absolutely slaughtered mystic gohan, the undisputed strongest after vegito, should be evidence enough. but somehow people still argue that kid buu is stronger somehow, fricking 30 years later.

            • 1 week ago
              Anonymous

              Vegeta even confirms it when he asks Goku why didn't he grab Gohan when Kid Buu destroyed Earth, as Gohan would have easily killed Kid Buu.

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      he sensed the inherent goodness in buu, hence why he wanted to wish him back after the fight was over

      • 1 week ago
        Anonymous

        This is the actual reason. Reminder that Krillin of all people could hold the bomb without issue. It's lethality is proportional to how evil the target is.

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      Buu Saga is hopelessly padded because Toriyama realized the initial saga plan he made up was tanking halfway through its execution, and basically made the rest of it up on the fly.

      • 1 week ago
        Anonymous

        Interesting rumor, usually when people make that shit up they explicitly claim it was supposed to end at Frieza or Cell, nothing about only getting halfway to his intended ending and never reaching it.

        • 1 week ago
          Anonymous

          >rumor
          There's an interview with Toriyama from back in the day you can easily look up where he says Gohan wasn't working out as main protag

          • 1 week ago
            Anonymous

            >I intended to put Gohan into the leading role. It didn’t work out. I felt that compared to Goku, he was ultimately not suited for the part.
            Nothing about fans or sales or editors, Toriyama felt that Gohan wasn't suited for the leading role, that's it.

            • 1 week ago
              Anonymous

              ya

            • 1 week ago
              Anonymous

              He was right. Gohan would turn Dragon Ball into a Western superhero comic. Gohan would work as a scholar and he'd only fight if a villain showed up then he'd go back to being a scholar. I'm not shitting on Western superheros, it's just not what Dragon Ball is. Dragon Ball is a show where the characters give full restores to the villain for fun. Gohan is too much of a normal person.

      • 1 week ago
        Anonymous

        >Toriyama
        >planning

      • 1 week ago
        Anonymous

        Add in the fatigue he was having and not wanting to do the series anymore. The Buu Saga was Toriyama crawling to the finish line, both in his art and his ideas

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      He thought he could beat him without it.

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      Because he's supposed to be in the afterlife. Gohan is supposed to be in charge of defending Earth. If daddy cleans up every mess then the Earth does not deserve to exist.

  2. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    The story is unironically awful but since there is so much shit that is going on it's the most fun to rewatch or reread

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Which part is awful? People say it’s bad but will never elaborate. It’s pretty fricking kino in my opinion

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >Buu as an antagonist
        >Z fighters being sidelined worse than ever before
        >Gootenks learning SSJ3
        >Bejita returning after his sacrifice
        >Gohan vs Buu, and Gohan dropping the potara
        >the potara and fusion dance being asspulls (all of DB is asspulls but these were too convenient)
        I haven't watched DB in over a decade now so this is all that I can remember being bad. It has plenty of good parts as well, but it is easily the most flawed arc and is wildly inconsistent.

        • 1 week ago
          Anonymous

          We get it, you were filtered. No need to blog post about it

          • 1 week ago
            Anonymous

            He literally asked. I also said I liked it.
            Why are you an illiterate Black person?

      • 1 week ago
        Anonymous

        Every single aspect. You are just defending that shit because is dragon ball. It was a filler forced by the publisher to keep the series going. Atrocious attempt of next generation with the "next protagonist", "oh lol! they can reach ss status being kids and without special training!" and, of course, the villain is just an alien thing who appeared... because a new enemy was needed.

      • 1 week ago
        Anonymous

        It's so goddamn long.
        The villain starts out kind of interesting then gets less and less so as he turns into Shitty Knockoff Cell and then Angry Midget moron.
        Old Kai fricking sucked. Mystic Gohan fricking sucked.
        Videl is built up then drops out of the story and never matters again.
        Trunks is an idiot and this is made worse through the unavoidable comparison to Future Trunks who is actually likeable. Goten is just Even Dumber Kid Goku.
        There's some good bits here and there but it's swimming in a sea of slop.

  3. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    If you were 12 when you started watching in the US, you would be 15-16 when Buu saga came out. People did used to grow out of watching cartoons and playing games. Serialized animation wasn’t really a thing in the US until anime.

  4. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    its funny how the only anime black people and latinx like are shows i watched when i was 12 year old boy.
    yikes sweaty that says a lot

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >latinx
      No gays allowed in this thread. Frick off

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        cry latinx boy, ill keep using that term as a microagression for your ugly race

        • 1 week ago
          Anonymous

          >The moeshitting over Dragon Ball is a BleachSISSY
          Kekaroo, your anime was NEVER part of the Top 3 even in it's "peak", let alone comparable to Dragon Ball.

          • 1 week ago
            Anonymous

            I'm torn reading your debate because DBZ & Bleach were my 2 favorite anime as a kid, never liked One Piece tried watching it and it was trash. I love Pirate settings too which is a shame.

            • 1 week ago
              Anonymous

              One Piece is shit.

        • 1 week ago
          Anonymous

          its funny how the only anime black people and latinx like are shows i watched when i was 12 year old boy.
          yikes sweaty that says a lot

          Latinx thread
          Latinx broad
          Be a homosexual somewhere else

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      It's the only tolerable kind of anime.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        whats life like with an iq of 80 ? i bet you drink coke zero with a well done steak

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >whats life like with an iq of 80 ?
          dunno, I don't watch moeSHIT
          > i bet you drink coke zero with a well done steak
          actually it's cherry coke but good assumption

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            youre an adult watching little kid shows. embarrassing my man. its time to grow up

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              >it's time to grow u-AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa *plop*

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                owh damn youre actually a teen? why so offended then

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous
              • 1 week ago
                Anonymous

                i accept your defeat kiddo

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      DBZ is like anime for people who exercise and have sex.

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      >posts the blandest looking moeshit I've ever seen

      • 1 week ago
        Anonymous

        Go away Gohangay, you're bad enough in /dbs/. No need to poison these halls as well

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      Latinos like chainsaw man, snk and demon slayer.

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      They get all their media a decade after the civilized world. Also DBZ reminds them of their mexican wrestling dramas.

      • 1 week ago
        Anonymous

        >a decade after
        I am pretty sure DBZ was broadcasted everywhere back on the early 90s.
        >reminds them of their mexican wrestling dramas.
        Come on dude, you could have cracked a way better joke such as 'mexicans sure do love watching monkeys scream and fight around' something between those lines.

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      it's mikami, ranma 1/2, virtua fighter, caballeros del zodiaco, zenki.

      • 1 week ago
        Anonymous

        Before the satanic panic that some dummies on talkshows Mexico played awesome anime.

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      mexican poker cards from the flea market of dbz and ranma got me through puberty.

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      CHADGON CHAD is the only thing you need.

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      Call me a latinx in person and see how it goes buddy. You'd be safer calling me a beaner.

  5. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Secondaries don't want to admit dragonball started as a gag manga, and returned to its roots. They also don't want to confront that the true theme of Dragonball Z is teamwork. Every victory over a villain since Raditz comes from everyone working together, the earth spirit bomb is the culmination of that with literally everyone contributing to the win.

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      Goku explicitly states he doesn't like having to work with others to win because it cheapens his victory. Nappa gets obliterated by Goku alone, as do the Ginyu Force and Frieza. Gohan effectively singlehandedly beat Cell, it's left ambiguous whether Goku actually helped that final kamehameha or if Gohan was just imagining it.
      Yajirobe chopping off Vegeta's tail basically just resets the fight to where it was before he went Great Ape, which really was only there because Toriyama wanted to show a prime Great Ape fight without it really contributing to the story.

      To be fair vegeta being a moron was still completely in character at the time, as far as he knew he was the strongest character and cell poked at his ego (which Cell would do, having parts of vegita and all)
      it's only after this collosal frick up does his attitude start changing

      Except it goes against the character he's established to have during the Namek Saga. That of a conniving scheming bastard plenty willing to sneak around and take cheap shots and cut deals when it is advantageous to him. The fighting autist is Goku, but the Cell Saga makes everyone into one. Namek saga Vegeta would've bodied Cell for getting in his way and then started personally hunting down 17 and 18 for revenge.

      AKSHUALLY he could have took out fat buu when he went SS3 but he wanted the younger generation to be stronger so they could take on threats to earth when he wasn't there, so he made two 8 year olds fight instead.

      If Gohan hadn't've jobbed he wouldn't have had to rely on Gotenks

      • 1 week ago
        Anonymous

        >Except it goes against the character he's established to have during the Namek Saga
        Sure, but that's because he changed during the Namek Saga. He went from absolutely fricking stomping Goku (literally) on Earth to being hopelessly outclassed by him mere weeks/months later which re-awoke his drive to become better, something that Freiza had completely inhibited but Goku had been free to follow. Finding out Goku became the Super Saiyan drove him even harder - his goal was no longer "win at any cost", it was "become stronger at any cost"

        And it works - when Vegeta is fighting Fat Clowndroid, Piccolo notices that Vegeta is now stronger than Goku - and he's not talking about "goku's fricking dying of a heart virus so even Roshi is stronger than him now" - he's comparing Goku at his best to Vegeta against the fat clown, and Vegeta is on top - he did this by pushing himself through truly gruelling training (not unlike Goku did in the gravity spaceship)

        Vegeta letting the androids come into existence, then wanting to fight 17/18, then wanting to fight Perfect Cell are all perfectly in-character after his changes on Namek. He will get stronger at ANY cost, even if it means letting an actual threat to him emerge so that he can push himself harder. It's moronic and backfires horribly, but it's not out of character for this saga's Vegeta. He's not pre-Namek or even during-Namek Vegeta anymore.

        • 1 week ago
          Anonymous

          The thing is, "getting stronger at any cost" doesn't mean dropping 20IQ points. Which he absolutely does by letting Cell reach his perfect stage. Vegeta is a petty and spiteful individual, that's core to his character from beginning to end. It just does not make sense that he would let Cell absorb the androids that humiliated him as badly as they had during his first fight with 18. He would've wanted nothing more than to pay 18 back tenfold for the loss he suffered, both as vengeance and to affirm his new strength. A far more in-character move would've been that Vegeta learns Cell is after 18 (and 17) and he moves in hard and hot to destroy Cell before he can reach the androids because he wants his vengeance. Toriyama had Vegeta fight imperfect Cell simply because he wanted to show how strong Vegeta had gotten in the interim so as to establish how strong Perfect Cell is when he kerb-stomps Vegeta, it's a common theme in his writing to have characters bounce between no-selling enemy attacks and having enemies no-sell their attacks over and over to establish how strong they are after each powerup.

          >Big Green noticed Vegeta had gotten stronger than Goku
          He was comparing Namek-era Goku to Vegeta, he hadn't seen how strong Goku had become since then because he had been off-world prior to the Androids saga and by the time the Androids showed up the heart virus was holding him back.

          • 1 week ago
            Anonymous

            Goku had been around Piccolo for 3 years before the Androids showed up. While Goku had been offworld in the beginning of the arc, he returned when Frieza arrived (only to get beaten by Trunks). After that he had 3 years of training on Earth; plenty of time for Piccolo to figure out exactly how strong he had become. And the disease only started to affect him a bit before the Androids arrived at best. Reminder that the medication was for when symptoms started showing up.

        • 1 week ago
          Anonymous

          "Stronger" isn't what matters here, and the Future Trunks vs Perfect Cell fight should have encapsulated that for you.

          Trunks as a SSJ2.5 far outclassed Cell, but it didn't matter. With all of his brute strength, with all of his forceful power, he couldn't keep up with Cell. Couldn't fly for shit, couldn't maneuver, couldn't dodge. Being big and bulky and strong and capable of launching Ki nukes with his eyebrows matters very little when the opponent just hops around laughing at you.

  6. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    The Buu saga is the closest Z arc to the classic DB tone and is therefore the best. Only real problem is Gotenks should've actually beat Super Buu so Goku could stay dead.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      This except Gohan. I don’t even like the lil homie, I’m a Future Trunks guy aka want to make love to his dick and even I can admit he got cucked. Imagine what a chad ending it would be to have the little dork turn Mystic and call Buu a moron then thrash him into death, rather than being chloroformed and hentai’d.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        The ending of the Buu Saga is absolute perfection. You don’t get Goku vs Kid Buu , Vegeta’s speech, Hercule’s heroism, and the Spirit Bomb with that cuckold Gohan.

      • 1 week ago
        Anonymous

        Gohan is a homosexual jobber and always will be, it's time to grow up

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      giga ultra based except Goku needed to be the key factor because he is the main character and always will be

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      tbh i don't feel this way. Buu wasn't like DB because there was that constant global destruction threat hanging over all of it. It was DBZ but with moronic filler wank maximized and dragged out after Buu came back. In fact the Buu arc was pretty good up until that point with the tournaments and stuff. Frieza was really the logical end of DBZ, after you're casually blowing up planets power creep has already gotten to the point where none of this shit matters.

  7. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Why do you persist in posting your anime shit on the wrong board?

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Why do you persist in being a summerchild schoolage homosexual who doesn’t realize that
      A.) Anime site
      B.) DBZ premiered on live, schedule tv for decades
      C.) The rest of the catalog is just waifu, baskin, and other shitposting gays
      D.) ur gay

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      1. the best anime is better than the majority of animated television out there, as far as action goes theres no western comparison
      2.this is a tv board, anime board is very manga focused, many of us watched DBZ on TV when we were kids thus its a Cinemaphile experience to share

  8. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Because Toriyama was literally pulling shit out of his ass as it went along more so than he did in the Cell Saga. Everything is meaningless because it has to revolve around Goku.

  9. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    What's up with these daily Boo threads?

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      It’s the only arc that matters. Simple as

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      its like star wars ep 6 both touted as the best and worst of a trilogy, buu saga has the weirdest villain, the most surprising characters used to fight buu, the whole eating everyone thing, the disposition of buu as a child and maniac and moron being a huge switch up from the previous 2 cell and frieza which seem basic in comparison, it stuck with me the most and if I was gonna rewatch any arc rn it'd probably be buu saga

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      It’s airing in Mexico right now

  10. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    This little b***h has NEVER won a fight.

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      He didn’t lose to Buuhan my boy.

      • 1 week ago
        Anonymous

        He didn't win either THOUGH.

  11. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    because some people have standards while others will praise any ol' slop dumped in the trough

  12. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    >It trivializes the Super Saiyan transformation by having two toddlers be capable of it without requiring training or a traumatic event as a trigger
    >It fails to follow through with the setup of establishing Gohan as the new main hero and walks it all the way back
    >Buu is just not as cool or intimidating as Frieza or Cell. Fat Buu obviously looks and acts moronic, but even Super Buu still has the childish personality and tantrums despite looking badass
    >They gave Krillin hair,

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      >It trivializes the Super Saiyan transformation by having two toddlers be capable of it without requiring training or a traumatic event as a trigger

      Toriyama seemed antagonistic towards his own work sometimes. The man didn't re-read his own manga for decades after finishing it. It was just a job to him for cigs and he'd amuse himself while drawing it as best he could, often by shitting on the characters because it was funny to him. Toei tried to damage control a lot of it, like them making Goku into a much more heroic character, but Toriyama would always come clean about his actual intentions for the characters

  13. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    It's amazing how moronic everyone is to advance the Cell plot:
    >we can't kill dr gero now, we have to wait 3 years until the androids are activated
    >we can't even just find his lab and just destroy his androids, nope we have to wait
    >trunks forgets to give them a description of the androids so they think the fat mime and the old guy are the main threat until trunks gets back
    >yajirobe delivers senzu beans, then goku forgets them literally 2 seconds later when they go into town to search for the androids so they have to go back to get them when yamcha gets wounded
    >goku hasn't taken the heart medicine yet (this itself is not moronic because trunks said to take it only after the symptoms start) but he also hasn't told anyone that he hasn't taken it yet
    >16, 17, and 18 taking the long way to goku's house because it's more fun
    >vegeta needs 3 years to become super saiyan then surpasses it in 1 day in the time chamber
    >gohan does not become super saiyan in 3 years of training for the androids, then becomes super saiyan in less than 1 day in the time chamber, surpassing goku, vegeta, and trunks
    >vegeta stomping cell's shit but deciding to let him absorb 18
    >krillin destroying the remote to deactivate 18
    >16 repeatedly telling 18 to run away and she does nothing
    >18 still not running away when vegeta is keeping cell busy

    Compared to Buu:
    >shin underestimates the saiyans and says not to destroy the spaceship because it might awaken buu at a fraction of his power
    >vegeta becomes evil to fight goku
    >shin tells gohan not to even try to talk no jutsu buu (later mr satan is able to do this successfully)
    >gohan misses the earring toss

    Buu > Cell.

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      To be fair vegeta being a moron was still completely in character at the time, as far as he knew he was the strongest character and cell poked at his ego (which Cell would do, having parts of vegita and all)
      it's only after this collosal frick up does his attitude start changing

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      needs 3 years to become super saiyan then surpasses it in 1 day in the time chamber
      does not become super saiyan in 3 years of training for the androids, then becomes super saiyan in less than 1 day in the time chamber,
      Except 1 day in the chamber is 1 day in real time, plus the environment is much more intense compared to training on Earth. The show spells this out multiple times, how you missed it I have no clue. I guess you are just a dumb frick mexican.

  14. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    because it just meanders from twist to twist, with nothing having any weight to it outside a few kino moments like Vegeta's sacrifice and some Mr Satan bits, and some of the wacky fighting towards the end.

    Goku's first transformation into SSJ3 is the perfect encapsulation. It's such a cool concept, but then you remember it was all in favor of Trunks trying to find a remote in Bulma's sock drawer. SSJ3 was basically just dangling shiny keys in front of the viewers face while the story did nothing. Hell, from there we get SSJ3 Gotenks, and that's basically remembered for Piccolo taking forever to walk up a flight of stairs. The fight with SSJ3 Gotenks also went no where. And the fight with Gohan went no where. After all the build up for the sword and 'mystic' Gohan, and it still meant nothing. The fusion that was supposed to be permanant, but nah~ it gets undone a few episodes later because... idk Buu's stomach is weird. And the list goes on.

    So many cool ideas but they're all wasted with no story to back them up or give them weight.

  15. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    I dropped DBZ as a kid because of Buu. Meandering arc. I vaguely remember they hyped Gohan up and then nothing happens and Goku finally kills him?

  16. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    It was amazing fanservice but very messy. Goten/Trunks getting super saiyan randomly is stupid. Gohan getting mystic boost for nothing is stupid. The Earth and humanity get wiped out like it's just another day on the job. There's better ways they could have gone about it all.

  17. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    Kinotenks

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      Base form looks better.

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      Can't wait to use him and Kefla in Sparking Zero. I keep watching the trailer because those two going at it is a dream match for me.

  18. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    Frieza Saga before Goku arrives > Saiyan Saga > Frieza Saga after Goku arrives > Buu Saga > Cell Saga

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      Based. Saiyan Saga and the early part of the Frieza arc is peak Dragonball.

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      Are you me?

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      oh great, the morons are posting again!

      KEKKYPOOOOOO my fellow Bejita Bro

  19. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    because Videl was criminally underutilized

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      Correct

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      Yes.

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      She should naver cut her hair long hair Videl was top tier Waifu

      • 1 week ago
        Anonymous

        Short hair is cute too

        • 1 week ago
          Anonymous

          Someone post the troony beating the shit out of her lol

      • 1 week ago
        Anonymous

        She didn't do anything, she's not real

        • 1 week ago
          Anonymous

          Prove it.

  20. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    Everyone not named Goku jobs to Buu. SSJ 3 Goku being able to kill Fat Buu (but not doing so) is fricking stupid.

  21. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    >Why didn't Goku or Vegeta immediately kill Dabura?
    >Why didn't Goku use SS3 to immediately put down Vegeta?
    >Why didn't Piccolo find Goku after Vegeta sucker punched him?
    >Why didn't Goku destroy Buu when he went SS3?
    >Why didn't Gotenks destroy Buu when he went SS3?
    >Why didn't Gohan immediately destroy Buu?
    >Why didn't Vegito immediately put down Buu when he easily could have?
    >Why didn't Goku use the spirit bomb immediately on Buu at the Kais planet?

    Reminder that it was evident early on that the Buu level threat was a level beyond what they'd dealt with before and should have tried to end it ASAP.

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      >>Why didn't Goku or Vegeta immediately kill Dabura?
      Because they wanted Gohan to handle it.
      >>Why didn't Goku use SS3 to immediately put down Vegeta?
      Goku is not trying to run down his time much more than necessary and he doesn't want to break Vegeta either.
      >>Why didn't Piccolo find Goku after Vegeta sucker punched him?
      I guess he wasn't aware of Goku's condition at all, all he knows is Vegeta is trying to beat Buu and he's got to do something about the boys.
      >>Why didn't Goku destroy Buu when he went SS3?
      Because he never could. It was Goku's headcanon that he could. He tried the SS3 plan against Kid Buu and failed.
      >>Why didn't Gotenks destroy Buu when he went SS3?
      I think you're overrating SS3 a little bit. Buu was always swimming around that level, in any case SS3 isn't enough to murder Buu, even if it could it runs out of energy before Buu is weak enough for a killing blow.
      >>Why didn't Gohan immediately destroy Buu?
      I don't think there's a whole lot capable of "immediately" destroying Buu. Buu can even regenerate from smoke.
      >>Why didn't Vegito immediately put down Buu when he easily could have?
      He wanted to save the people Buu absorbed first.
      >>Why didn't Goku use the spirit bomb immediately on Buu at the Kais planet?
      Because he thought he can kill Buu with SS3 but underestimated the energy problems SS3 would give him.

      • 1 week ago
        Anonymous

        >and he doesn't want to break Vegeta either
        Why not

        • 1 week ago
          Anonymous

          Because he's useful. If Goku just instantly stomped him with Super Saiyajin 3 it would have shattered his spirit and he'd not be able to perform in future fights.

          • 1 week ago
            Anonymous

            this. Vegeta had been left in the dust power wise at that point, but he was in the running for the most combat experience out of the group.

      • 1 week ago
        Anonymous

        >wanted to save the people Buu absorbed first.
        This is borderline moronic when you remember the namek draganballs

        • 1 week ago
          Anonymous

          I think their real fear was they don't know what happens to someone if they've been absorbed for too long. For example, if Buu was actually killed, would they be able to resurrect Gohan, Piccolo, Trunks, and Goten separately? In the worst case scenario, they would have to bring back Buu in order to bring back the others as well since they've all merged into one.

          • 1 week ago
            Anonymous

            That’s actually a good point. Did they mention that ever? Or was it simply implied?

            • 1 week ago
              Anonymous

              Goku thinks the people Buu absorbed will suffer inside him forever, that's how he convinces Vegeta to fuse. They've also had complications with the DBs before like needing to transport Krillin's soul/body whatever it was to Earth before resurrecting him because he was still in space where Frieza killed him, I'm guessing they just want to stay on the safe side.

              • 1 week ago
                Anonymous

                Thank you for clarifying it’s been a minute.

      • 1 week ago
        Anonymous

        >Why didn't Goku or Vegeta immediately kill Dabura?
        >Why didn't Goku use SS3 to immediately put down Vegeta?
        >Why didn't Piccolo find Goku after Vegeta sucker punched him?
        >Why didn't Goku destroy Buu when he went SS3?
        >Why didn't Gotenks destroy Buu when he went SS3?
        >Why didn't Gohan immediately destroy Buu?
        >Why didn't Vegito immediately put down Buu when he easily could have?
        >Why didn't Goku use the spirit bomb immediately on Buu at the Kais planet?

        Reminder that it was evident early on that the Buu level threat was a level beyond what they'd dealt with before and should have tried to end it ASAP.

        >Why didn't Goku use SS3 to immediately put down Vegeta?
        He'd use up all of his time on Earth instantly and the power surge might wake up Buu.

        >Why didn't Goku destroy Buu when he went SS3?
        He knows that he won't always be there and wanted the kids to inherit the role of protectors of Earth. He wanted them to fight and defeat Buu.
        At this point Goku didn't know about Buu's absorption abilities to the degree they were used later on. That was fat Buu, Goku didn't expect Super Buu.

        >Why didn't Gotenks destroy Buu when he went SS3?
        They're morons.

        >Why didn't Gohan immediately destroy Buu?
        Bad characterization. Some might say it's within his character because of what happened with Cell but precisely because of that Gohan shouldn't make the same mistake twice.

        >Why didn't Vegito immediately put down Buu when he easily could have?
        He wanted to save everyone that Buu absorbed first by getting them out.

        Everything boils down to "Toriyama used plot armour to drag out the story"

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      >Why didn't Goku use SS3 to immediately put down Vegeta?
      He'd use up all of his time on Earth instantly and the power surge might wake up Buu.

      >Why didn't Goku destroy Buu when he went SS3?
      He knows that he won't always be there and wanted the kids to inherit the role of protectors of Earth. He wanted them to fight and defeat Buu.
      At this point Goku didn't know about Buu's absorption abilities to the degree they were used later on. That was fat Buu, Goku didn't expect Super Buu.

      >Why didn't Gotenks destroy Buu when he went SS3?
      They're morons.

      >Why didn't Gohan immediately destroy Buu?
      Bad characterization. Some might say it's within his character because of what happened with Cell but precisely because of that Gohan shouldn't make the same mistake twice.

      >Why didn't Vegito immediately put down Buu when he easily could have?
      He wanted to save everyone that Buu absorbed first by getting them out.

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      1. it was gohan's turn. saiyans like to fight. they like a challenge. dabura wasn't strong enough for them to take it that seriously. goku even says he's about as strong as cell - so, should be well within their abilities to handle alone.

      2. didn't want to humiliate him, would have eaten up all his time, didn't have much practice, wanted to fight vegeta fairly, wanted the challenge.

      3. why would he? how would he?

      4. he says this. he wanted to give the kids something to do.

      5. because they are children. goten is 7 and trunks is 8. they are children. the fusion also made them even wienerier than normal. truth be told, they probably couldn't - they were able to use their ghosts to reduce him to a gas and he still reformed.

      6. he was working on it and then it went wrong. it's probably not as easy as just killing somebody. probably you have to wear them down, make sure they don't regenerate/recharge, and then land the killing blow. also, probably wanted to make him suffer and test out his new powers. he did this with cell too.

      7. he says this. he even deliberately allows himself to get absorbed with the part of boo's head that he tore off. which he did for this purpose. he did this so that he could rescue the people who were inside boo before killing him. this would ensure that the dragonballs would still be around and everyone could be wished back.

      8. the earth was destroyed. there wasn't enough energy without it to beat him (consider: all the saiyans, piccolo, gohan, etc). also, goku enjoys fighting and a challenge. he wants to fight boo. additionally, they stated that boo was losing power when he reverted to his kid state, so they thought they could take him. even during/at the end of the fight, he remarks that it was the best fight of his life... to the point where he makes a plea for him to come back as a good person so he can fight him again.

      a lot of these answers are probably unsatisfying. but all you have to do is pay attention.

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      >>Why didn't Goku or Vegeta immediately kill Dabura?
      He wasn't Buu. The lads wanted to take turns fighting.
      >>Why didn't Goku use SS3 to immediately put down Vegeta?
      Toriyama hadn't come up with it yet. Goku didn't want to dab on Bejita too hard.
      >>Why didn't Piccolo find Goku after Vegeta sucker punched him?
      Wasn't he petrified until after Bejita killed himself?
      >>Why didn't Goku destroy Buu when he went SS3?
      Muh new generation
      >>Why didn't Gotenks destroy Buu when he went SS3?
      Fusions are pranksters.
      >>Why didn't Gohan immediately destroy Buu?
      He's a moron.
      >>Why didn't Vegito immediately put down Buu when he easily could have?
      *Vegetto
      >>Why didn't Goku use the spirit bomb immediately on Buu at the Kais planet?
      Wouldn't do shit without Satan. Also the Genkidama had a 0% success rate by this time.

      • 1 week ago
        Anonymous

        >Wasn't he petrified until after Bejita killed himself?
        No, they even had a chat. Vegeta asked Piccolo if he'll get to meet Goku in the afterlife but Piccolo told him that because he's evil his soul will be purified and reincarnate. Piccolo took Trunks and Goten and flew away from Vegeta's Final Explosion.

  22. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    Because it's just the Cell saga rinsed and repeated, but with a pink demon. I just didn't quite understand the point except to show off more power levels for the MCs

  23. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    I really liked the Buu saga before Fat Buu got jobbed. After that it kind of got weird and moronic.

  24. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    1st half of the Buu Saga is legitmatley great. It becomes awful with Gotenks and doesn't get good again until Kid Buu.

  25. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    >another Cinemaphile thread

    It's Dragon Ball so I'll allow it but you gotta stop.

  26. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    I truly don't think I've ever finished the Buu Saga even after all these years, but I never found a reason to watch DBZ after it that's for sure.
    I fanatically followed Raditz, Vegeta, Frieza, and Cell as a kid though. It's like I stopped somewhere during Buu because I can't remember the end of it, and just never went back.

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      Buu arc is just a slog. That's why. There's cool stuff in it but it's dragged down by the bait n switches, subversions and discarded ideas. I've rewatched DBZ a few times in the last decade and I always seem to lose interest and stop watching around Gotenks - Mystic Gohan.

      • 1 week ago
        Anonymous

        the anime (even Kai) drags it out a lot more and fricks up the pacing. Buu was great in the manga

  27. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    GT filter redditors more

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      Frick off GTgay. It’s gay and so are you.

      • 1 week ago
        Anonymous

        Baby Saga is better than all Super

        • 1 week ago
          Anonymous

          all of GT is better than 99% of super

          • 1 week ago
            Anonymous

            Correct

          • 1 week ago
            Anonymous

            I can admit that Baby is better than most of Super, but if you think Super 17 is also better than ANY of Super, including RoF, then your IQ must be in the negatives.

            • 1 week ago
              Anonymous

              As as design, Super 17 mogs everyone except nu-Broli. As an arc, yeah, it's not great but that's the story of GT as a whole. Amazing designs but overall a missed potential in its story. The ideas were solid, taking it back to its roots with Black Star arc but in a galactic scale, Baby arc was great in my opinion, and the idea behind the overuse of the Dragon Balls having repercussions was also really interesting. At the end of the day, I'll take those stories over multiverse-timeline slop.

            • 1 week ago
              Anonymous

              When people talk about GT they're talking about Pan.

        • 1 week ago
          Anonymous

          Cat piss soup is better than Super.

  28. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    Fatphobia.

  29. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    It was just too high IQ for me. I couldn't understand it you know?

  30. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    DBZ in general is a gigantic midwit filter.

  31. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    Because they're Dragon Ball fans when they should be Toriyama fans. The last two arcs were serious with barely any jokes, so when this arc became a moronic bubblegum monster with a dopey face going on a rampage by turning people into candy, a lot of the edgy American fans are gonna hate on it.

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      People are stupid. A scary monster doesn’t automatically have to be rotting zombie creature like a xenomorph or Cell, Buu was just a magical deity god thing, it shouldn’t have to fit what you’d imagine something horrifying might be. I’m sure Buu would make you shit your pants IRL with those black eyes and glowing red pupils.

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      Americans watched it in record numbers moron

  32. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    For me, as a lad I hated that Goku was wearing earrings and it turned me off from watching.

  33. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    Not enough of Babidi brutally torturing Cuckoshin.

  34. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    The Frieza Saga filtered me. That shit was terrible.

  35. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    >Why did the Buu Saga filter so many people?
    Because it was good

  36. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    retads who never watched DB and started with Z, onky here forbthe action. Buu saga had too much humor, character and fun for the I WANT MORE VEGETA AND GOKU PUNCHING crowd

  37. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    I don't know why because the Buu Saga was pure kino. In fact, it's my most favourite Saga in all of Dragonball Z. Also:

    >Posting from your IP range has been blocked due to abuse.

    What 'abuse'? I have to phonepost to get around this genuinely unjust bullshit.

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      Janny hates majin Buu

  38. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    ENTER Shartku

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      mods ban this man, you did it to me last time I posted this!

  39. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    too much moronic shit (even for dbz), cell saga will always be the official end of Dragon Ball for me

  40. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    Simple really: the ugliest and most annoying villain.

  41. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    I wonder if Buu was inspired by the T-1000

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      I was inspired by the T-1000, to learn to run really fast.

      • 1 week ago
        Anonymous

        Post top speed.

  42. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    ranma with the risque scenarios and the insinuandos was a complete miracle that it was allowed.

  43. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    Majin Vegeta killed himself to blow Majin Buu up. Majin Buu regenerates. SSJ3 Goku two Kamehameha's at Kid Buu and blew him up TWICE, A single punch from SSJ3 Goku would've floored Vegeta. I don't know how people can entertain the notion that Majin Vegeta would somehow be able to "hold his own" or that Goku wouldn't be able to end the fight instantly.
    >B-but Fat Buu wasn't killed immediately!
    Goku admits flat out that he could've killed Buu but that it wasn't his place.

  44. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    >Goku's entire motivation in the Buu saga is to allow the younger generation to beat Buu so they can protect the earth now he is dead
    >this culminates with him defeating Buu by himself, coming back to life and abandoning his friends and family to go hang out with a little Indian kid
    The entire saga was a mess

  45. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    It's kinda messy, but it is still fun. I don't think people realise that it's basically toriyama parodying himself, that's why there's like 20 powerups that all do nothing and they save the day by relying on the gag character.

  46. 1 week ago
    Anonymous
    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      This is extremely confusing to follow. The panel groups go left to right but you read them right to left?

      • 1 week ago
        Anonymous

        It's all right to left.

        • 1 week ago
          Anonymous

          It's not

  47. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    I don't see how it's good except for some hype moments that in the end carry exaclty zero weight.
    It seems to me the Buu saga is chock-full of plot contrivances just for the sake of extending its lenght.

    Probably all of that could be avoided if Buu was actually a charachter instead of a force of nature that's basically mute.
    Honestly I think a longer and deeper heel turn for Vegeta would have been so much better. Like, imagine if he counquered the world House of M style after defeating Goku and Z warriors have to dethrone him. Maybe he redeems himself at the end. I dunno I think it would have been kino

  48. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    Buu Saga is top tier for the first half but becomes a mess as soon as Vegeta blows himself up.

    Too many editors getting Toriyama to change the story on the fly
    >Introduce a new super saiyan power up!
    >Fans think Fat Buu is stupid, introduce a more serious version of Buu
    >Make Gotenks the new hero!
    >Actually no bring back Gohan
    >Actually no fans want Goku and Vegeta back
    >Vegito stomping Super Buu has made fans bored of him, introduce a new Buu!

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      All of that was Toriyama.

  49. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    everything that happens in DBZ happens in YYH. every time I watch YYH I notice another instance, last time it was Trunks vs Goku when Trunks first appears. they spar and Goku stops the blade with his fingers, in YYH they spar and Yusuke stops Hiei's blade with his fingers.

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      'Catching swords barehanded' has been a thing in kung fu movies since the 70s

      • 1 week ago
        Anonymous

        it's just a similar scene, protagonist and ally sparring, protagonist is shown to have gotten stronger, catches the blade easily with their bare hand, krillin/kuwabara says UOOH

  50. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    What's the best edited version of Dragonball/Z to watch?

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      This is the only original DB recut I'm aware of: https://archive.org/details/dragon-ball-recut
      DBZ Kai edits DBZ down to just the manga chapters and if you just want the story as Toriyama wrote it that's what to watch. But honestly, the anime-exclusive filler is often better than the manga because it makes the other Z fighters not so useless. Did you know through the entire manga, Goku does not have a single conversation with Chiaotsu? I don't think he ever even says his name. The anime adds scenes like the Ginyu Force having to fight Yamcha/Tien/Chiaotsu on King Kai's planet, and the Garlic Jr saga specifically to help showcase what Krillin and Gohan can do when they're not sitting on the sidelines cheering for Goku to do all the work.

  51. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    Gotenks fricking sucks.

  52. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    Buu Saga issue is that the whole saga builds up to passing of the torch only for Gotenks and Gohan to fail and have no meaningful impact on the final battle. Makes their training/struggles pointless. Goten and Trunks learn fusion and don't end up doing anything. Gotenks gets SSJ3 and it doesn't mean anything. Gohan unlocks his full potential and it doesn't mean anything. They should have went to fight Kid Buu alongside Vegeta/Goku. people say SSJ3 as a whole is useless but it works as a sign of Goku's superiority over Vegeta which he acknowledges ending his character arc. It still has some awesome moments.

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    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      >doesn’t mean anything
      it makes buu stronger when he absorbs them

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      >people say SSJ3 as a whole is useless but it works as a sign of Goku's superiority over Vegeta
      They could have just used super saiyan 2 for that. Instead of making both Goku and Vegeta reach that level off screen, they could have just implied it was (apparently) exclusive to Gohan only to reveal later that Goku could achieve it too, but never used it against Vegeta for the same reason he never used Ss3. Ss3 kind of solidified a lot of the power scaling bullshit.

      • 1 week ago
        Anonymous

        There should have never been an SSJ3. The only good thing about it was the funimation theme.
        Goku should have struggled against Buu in SSJ2 to buy time for Trunks, but "won" the fight by convincing Buu to turn on Babidi, which is what happened in the end anyway besides Goku using Buu as a punching bag which turned him into a non threatening villain pretty quickly.

        The fight would have been way more intense with Goku getting beat up like Vegeta and thinking his only way out was trying to reason with Buu. Mr.Satan comes out with the same idea also, since Buu is a big child you can reason with him unlike Frieza/Cell.

        • 1 week ago
          Anonymous

          Yeah, everything would have worked a lot better without ss3. If they REALLY wanted to add it they could have made it a fusion exclusive form. That could have worked since ss3 looks like a caricature of a super saiyan, so the multiplication effect of fusing could have multiplied the intensity of a super saiyan transformation or something.

          • 1 week ago
            Anonymous

            Super did a lot wrong. Almost everything, really. But the one thing I like is that it consigned SS3 to the dustbin. Of all the transformations including the myriad ones with neon highlighter hair it is by far the ugliest.

            • 1 week ago
              Anonymous

              Its like Toriyamas realised how moronic it was and retroactively deleted it.

  53. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    I unironically like the Buu saga more than the shit Cell saga. Cell is cool but I couldn't stand watching Gohan whine every fricking time.

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      My favorite part was when vegeta gets b***h slapped and 1 shot by cell and is crumpled on the ground and gohan has to save him

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      Gohan did jackshit the entire saga and had no connection to Cell until out of nowhere he gets placed in the main character spot

      • 1 week ago
        Anonymous

        Exactly, which is I fricking hate it besides the constant whining.

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      Cell saga gets a lot of slack because it followed up Frieza saga which is where DBZ really got popular in the US, and the brunt of merchandising for DBZ over here largely uses the Cell saga looks. It's basically the iconic Dragon Ball Z, down to how the US OPs used the last segment from the android/cell sagas. So we KNEW SS Goku, Future trunks, Vegeta as an ally were all coming, we just had to wait for it
      DBZ in the US is an interesting case study for how marketing can completely change the perception of a product; they took a nearly 10 year old show for Japanese 7-12 year olds and with edgy music and marketing focusing on cool, sharp and serious looking fighters, made it something that felt like it was a show for teen and even adults that was just edited for kids. The movies got reedited with nu-metal songs added. Outside of somethings like Goku getting a hole in him or Trunks vomiting blood when he's killed, it's not THAT graphic, but slapping an "uncensored" on the home media releases made it seem more extreme and adult than it was.

      • 1 week ago
        Anonymous

        it's bizarre to me that this is the same character designer as Dragon Ball Super

        what the FRICK happened to yamamuro?

        • 1 week ago
          Anonymous

          Toriyama. Later in life he started seriously slimming down his art style, and forced his understudies to do the same. All the noodly DYELs in Super are because Toriyama explicitly told the artists to draw them that way.

          • 1 week ago
            Anonymous

            the character designer of the Broly movie made modern Dragon Ball look good, I'm sure Yamamuro could have made it work if he cared to

            • 1 week ago
              Anonymous

              The art director for DBS Broly very deliberately was trying to copy the look of the Piccolo Jr/Saiyan sagas. Which just so happens to have the best art style, perfect mix of the rounded and soft look of the original series and the masculine aggressive look of Z. Man, if all of Super looked like that...

  54. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    was there a difference between buu turning them into candy and eating them vs absorbing them? Because when fat buu gets eaten it makes evil buu get all his power. But super buu eats a bunch of people and it doesn’t seem like he gets anything out of it

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      Buu was a special chocolate, the human chocolates are just chocolates.

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      I think absorbing has to be deliberate. He would only absorb people that gives a good powerboost or more intelligence in Piccolo's case.

  55. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    >MUH EDITORS!
    Will you guys shut the frick up already? Do you spam every Harry Potter thread you see with “UM DUMBLEDORE WAS GAY CHUD” because Rowling said it in an interview? Goku was always the main character and was always going to be.

  56. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    Early DBZ > Dragonball > Late DBZ > ToP Super > GT > Rest of Super

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      Real Dragonball(Z) >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> dogshit >>>>>>>>>>>> GT >>>>>>>> troony necro bile >>> Super

  57. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    SS3 has yet to be topped. Everyone’s jaws dropped when Goku started powering up. All the reactions from the characters mirrored the audience reaction.

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      Ss1 and 2 were both better and actually won their fights.

  58. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    Because they never watched DragonBall (the prequel).
    So the edgelords got confused when toriyama went back to some silly shit.

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      their powers barely make any sense if you don watch the thing from the start

      • 1 week ago
        Anonymous

        >powers
        Not really, it was just a cartoon all they did was beat each other and have beam struggles till someone won. It's not outrageous to be like oh they are aliens and they have beams and train relentlessly.

  59. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    I wonder what mexicans and non-taste havers would be yapping about if CN never aired dragon ball z.

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      Saint seiya

      • 1 week ago
        Anonymous

        And Ranma

  60. 1 week ago
    Anonymous
  61. 1 week ago
    Anonymous
  62. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    Gogeta > Vegito

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      Vegetto hasn't won a single fight while Gogeta stomped Janemba, Syn Shenron and Broly.

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous
      • 1 week ago
        Anonymous

        I didn't like that it was just a regular Kamehameha. Vegetto got to use his Final Kamehameha vs Zamasu so I wanted to see Gogeta's Big Bang Kamehameha.

        • 1 week ago
          Anonymous

          Not worth bringing it out just for Broly.

          • 1 week ago
            Anonymous

            He did at least used his Stardust Breaker which was pretty cool to see.

      • 1 week ago
        Anonymous

        the filler of this movie was enjoyable
        but boy when the fight starts holy shit dude

      • 1 week ago
        Anonymous

        >Super overkill beam
        >Broly can't even stand up anymore

        Why was Gogeta such an butthole? Then Goku goes to find Broly later and says "Hey, can we be friends now? Then we can spar!" right after he just tried to fricking murder him

  63. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    >Buu saga begins being all about Gohan and his high school adventures
    >Ends with Gohan dying
    >Also ends with him having to help his father get the job done by giving him his power because he himself couldn't
    >Toriyama didn't even want to use Gohan in Dragon Ball: Super Hero and only did so because some Toei suit kept nagging him about it and he finally relented

    Gohan really got the wiener from Toriyama

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      He does end the Saga as the most powerful non-fused character at least.

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      didn't even want to use Gohan in Dragon Ball: Super Hero
      The entire story is about Gohan and the main villain is Gohan's main Villain. Was it just going to be a movie about Piccolo and no Cell? Everything from Pan being 'napped, the confusion from the 2 androids about who the good guys vs bad guys are, the parralels to the Cell games, everything is about Gohan, even the form which was just Toriyamas original Super Saiyan design before the anime got the colours wrong, it's all.omly.works because Gohan is the main character.

  64. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    Waku waku

  65. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    The only good thing of Kid Buu saga is Vegita Redemption

  66. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    I think Buu saga being bad is an internet take. The biggest hype (in germany) for DBZ was during Buu saga.

  67. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    What happened?

  68. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    A lot of South Americans itt

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      Everyone loves DBZ, stop being a troony and enjoy life

  69. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    Buu Saga was style over substance, but the style was so good you end up enjoying it, the designs are all great, the comedy is solid, everyone can be wished back so frick it have Buu just wreck everything, kill everyone then bring them back.

    The irony of people mocking powerups is no one gets stronger during it, Goku is already SSJ3, Vegeta has SSJ2, Gohan spend a day with the old kai to get the power he would have had if he didn't stop training. Buu gets strong for a while then losing it in less than an hour due to fusions running out.

    The whole thing takes place in like a day.

  70. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    >Why did the Buu Saga filter so many people?

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    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      They mentioned this in the Super Hero movie. Gohan wears glasses because of his bad vision and without them fails to catch a Senzu Bean from Piccolo. He mentions that when he turns to a Super Saiyajin it actually fixes his eyesight but he doesn't get that in his Potential Unleashed "form".

  71. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    >gohan and super buu individually are stronger than goku and vegeta
    >goku + vegeta > super buu + gohan
    ???
    Defend this

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      Fusion multiplies the collective power level many times over. Gotenks was also really fricking strong despite Goten and Trunks only being Super Saiyan's.

  72. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    Goku and Bejita getting fusion was bullshit. It should have been a Kid Trunks and Goten exclusive. The earrings were even more stupid

  73. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    buu saga dropped it's load real early... we got the hilarity of vegeta being possessed... his meaningless sacrifice... bibidi henchmen stuff...

    what followed was bru-tal right from the filler scenes of majin buu going to towns

  74. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    Wrong board

  75. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    Gohan moonlighting as Saiyaman while fending off girls and breaking the 4th wall to tell us about Krillin growing his hair out is my favorite stretch of DBZ episodes ever. I would have liked more of his high school life.

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      It needed more time. I just got to where Vegeta gets possessed and it was pretty great up to this point. Gohan as the main protag definitely could've worked for a bit longer. It would've made sense too since we get all of 7-8 episodes before the tournament starts to come up. The jump from Gohan and Videl being super heroes to her getting the beating of a lifetime and Bejita blowing up a shit ton of people is pretty quick really.

      • 1 week ago
        Anonymous

        Yeah. Up until Buu's first transformation into I feel like the pacing is pretty damb great, close to perfect. But it loses steam and gets a little more erratic as soon as Vegeta kills himself. Still love the whole show though.

        • 1 week ago
          Anonymous

          Yeah that's what I remember too, it getting slower and weird after Vegeta dies. Seeing Hercule & Buu was alright but it started to drag on, then Piccolo trying to train the boys wasn't nearly as good as him training Gohan. They should've just had the Fusion Reborn movie be cannon and then have like 3-4 episodes showing everyone getting fricked on Earth and needing Goku and bejita. Then they go back and just do the fusion dance again, instead of potara, and kill Buu. I love the ending we have, but that would've cut down on a lot of bullshit.

  76. 1 week ago
    Anonymous
    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      The Venn Diagram of Vegeta fanboys and Shadow the Hedgehog fanboys is a single circle

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      I'm fricking dying holy shit

  77. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    Buuhan should have been stronger than Vegito

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      qualify that?

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      I doubt even Toriyama understood who should be stronger than who when he was writing that. All the Japanese guides try to make sense of it and can't. They asked Toriyama what he thought and he didn't even remember what the frick he wrote anymore and didn't care

  78. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    >Decade later
    >Beerus still not defeated by Goku

    What's the point of Goku being about growth and surpassing hurdles if the hurdle keeps moving away from him? Putting an absolute into the series that cannot be overcome was a mistake. To make matters worse, there's also Whis, Grand Kai, Jiren, Hit who Goku still never actually defeated, Broly who bodied Goku and he needed to run to Bejita for help for, plus all the other characters who could have wiped Goku out, like Super Light Speed Dyspo, Kale, etc

    There's so many characters who could serve Goku his own ass at this point, or already have, with no rematches and no conclusions.

  79. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    Go back to Cinemaphile

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