jackie was the pixie dream girl for marco, and remember this the fanfic where nefcy's husband chose her over much better options.
I find funny how cumbrains actually thinks this is a fact
Nefcy has excellent taste in women (hence Jackie)
Unfortunately Nefcy has the white person flaw of being too trusting of minorities and allowed Cotugno to make Jackie a lesbian, whose lesbian partner is absolutely fricking disgusting.
Im convinced nefcy didnt expect jackie being that popular, so they make her a lesbian not only to kill starco but also as a shield ''you dont like this? you are homophobic'' because at other case she could be paired with any guy like tom or the guy who star had a crush on season 1
I'm a bit skeptical about the 3rd argument , but I'd say it fits in with
Nefcy has excellent taste in women (hence Jackie)
Unfortunately Nefcy has the white person flaw of being too trusting of minorities and allowed Cotugno to make Jackie a lesbian, whose lesbian partner is absolutely fricking disgusting.
Nefcy has excellent taste in women (hence Jackie)
Unfortunately Nefcy has the white person flaw of being too trusting of minorities and allowed Cotugno to make Jackie a lesbian, whose lesbian partner is absolutely fricking disgusting.
To be fair. Starco was never intended to be the endgame for the series as Marco preferred Jackie over Star. The moment Cotugno took over, she demolished the series entirely with her shitty political agenda and shipping drama that was never that much necessarily for a episodic show.
>MUST get together, but only at the end of the show.
yeah at fact I knew jarco was doomed when ironically they started dating in the middle of the series and not in the ending
I understood that she wanted to display how these teenage relationships can be messy and how feelings can change. The issue is that with basically everything in the show, it gets shoved into a closet until they go "oh shit we gotta do this story thing" and so it gets thrown into the spotlight for a single episode and then shoved back in the closet again.
Jackie and Marco breaking up would've been fine if over the course of season 3 or earlier, we see him get more conflicted over his relationship and how he feels about Star. But because this plot point gets brought up and resolved in a single episode, it feels too jarring. Marco all of sudden gets super obsessed with Mewni and Star, with Jackie exiting the show on a sudden break up, all within the span of 11 minutes. There's no pace, no sense of it existing within the greater story, it just exists and is obliterated within a short timeframe.
The thesis of the break-up episode is not that he wants a different girl more but that he is addicted to "adventure" and can't live a normal life anymore, despite him doing that stuff since season 1 and not being much of an adventure-seeker once he goes to Mewni permenantly.
They did a basic-ass break-up episode but refused to take responsibility for it.
Yes, that is known to be a trope, but at the same time during S1 and starts of S2 the talk was against it, the few times Daron was asked about she tried to make it clear that star was not that kind of girl, she even went as far as to say that she hated the repetitive "girl meet guy and they are destined", funny enough she did exactly that, which is probably something forced by c**tugno during S3 and 4
Even Sheer (star's voice) tried to make it clear that the whole idea of Marco and Star was to depict a boy and a girl that were friends and nothing else.
>she even went as far as to say that she hated the repetitive "girl meet guy and they are destined"
Then what's the blood moon about? Also there was her very transparent way of trying to show Jackie's not the right one (Marco not having the exact same musical tastes as her and being unable to "read" her mind).
>there was her very transparent way of trying to show Jackie's not the right one (Marco not having the exact same musical tastes as her and being unable to "read" her mind).
That does seem to be what that stuff was aiming at but at the same time it was shallow and moronic.
1 week ago
Anonymous
Personally I think Daron was all about that destined love shit, but had to hold it back when she found herself surrounded by armchair activists. After all starco did become endgame, and I'm sure if it was left to Cotugno's designs, Star would have ended the show as a full on dyke.
Yeah the bloodmoon is a really weird thing, because if you actually watch/read the interviews at the time, she never said "yeah this means they are lovers" or any shit like that, but at the same time it was used to imply they had a connection.
The issue is that Daron being the one person who in theory knew all that needed to be known for being the creator, she evaded too many important things and left them to watcher,s interpretation.
And about Jackie and Marco not sharing things, on the same page we have Daron herself promoting both the spellbook and guide through dimensions, if I remember correctly in the guide you can find Star "interviewing" Jackie and the revelation is that they are closer to the whole "true love" thing that in theory Daron talked as more realistic, she liked Marco but also used that guy from skatecamp as an excuse while she waited for Marco to reach her, pretty much Jackie realizes that she loved Marco long before and even thanks Star for helping her realize it.
Oh an about the whole "can't read mind" as someone else said, it was moronic, because if we take it in another angle, we see Jackie being capable of removing worries from Marco's shoulders without punching him or hurting him like star does, which is a trend at that time, Jackie also manages to help Marco do his first skate "ride" with her (full innuendos) without forcing him or hurting him with magic attacks
1 week ago
Anonymous
I knew Starco was the endgame from the beginning, so it was obvious to me that Jarco would not last. But man, I at least hoped that their inevitable breakup would be much more emotional.
My original headcanon for that was that Marco obviously wouldn't abandon Star to fight the ongoing war against monsters alone, and Jackie would want to support him however she could. Then the constant danger he puts himself into (and Jackie puts herself into, not wanting to leave him alone) would create a strain in their relationship, which would end with Marco realizing that she couldn't abandon Star to her fate, not even for Jackie. Jackie herself would realize that she was growing resentful of Star for being Marco's priority no matter what, and she would hate herself for it (after all she was Star's friend too). Thus with Marco not being able to properly work on their relationship, and Jackie not liking just how jealous and resentful she was becoming, they put and end it and go their separate ways. Tears all around ensue.
Frick me, I guess.
1 week ago
Anonymous
I expected them to not break up, honestly I didn't feel that they just breaking up for nothing made any sense
1 week ago
Anonymous
>it was obvious to me that Jarco would not last
Why? Marco responds negatively to Star's confession. He wishes she hadn't done it and things were back to the way they were before.
1 week ago
Anonymous
This, Marco in no moment shows interest in Star, he even says he never held a girl'd hand and that includes star, that would mean he doesn't consider star a girl, which funny enough connects with other instances where he is shown to treat her like a younger autistic sis.
Example: when Mina is playing on dirt and Star joins, he clearly acts as if star was a baby he is forced to deal with.
1 week ago
Anonymous
Star doesn't show interest in Marco either, at least not until he's taken. Later they did a reversal of that, with Marco not realizing he likes Star until she goes back to Tom.
1 week ago
Anonymous
May I point out that the whole "yo dude you didn't realize? You like star, you have to trust me, I'm a homosexual wig who makes his gf (kelly) life a pain, you have believe my opinion" was a really ridiculous idea? I understand they wanted to make Marco think about it, but why tad? That butthole was clearly the last person in the world anyone would believe to take any advice in love field. Just who the frick was the imbecile who believe that was a good idea?
1 week ago
Anonymous
>Why?
A few reasons. For starters: >both are MCs, aren't related and spend a lot of time together
Granted, that alone doesn't mean anything, but when romance's on the table you don't hook up your MCs with random NPCs. So either they end up together or with characters that at least have *some* importance to the plot (or a fair amount of screentime). Jackie, bless her heart, doesn't have much importance to the overall plot other than finally forcing Star to confront her own feelings, doesn't have a lot of screentime, has no ties to Mewni, isn't strong enough to kick all sorts of monster ass and never develops beyond being a generally nice, chill gal. Tom has a stronger base to work with, but he comes with his own set of problems. >romantic red herrings
We had those from the very beginning with what's-his-face, whom Star develops a shallow crush on (I genuinelly don't remember his name) and was very obviously not meant to be. Jackie, like I said before, was just too unimportant and was introduced a bit too late to be a serious contender. Tom was less of one but his and Star's failed relationship, combined with Star's shallow school crush, seemed to me like symbols of Star's impulsiveness and irresponsibility that she needed to grow past if she was to become a good queen. Janna has a strong base too but she never takes advantage of it, prefering to just joke around and act like a creep, which made Marco not want to pursue anything with her either. So with those main suspects set up as just distractions, I just asked myself who would they be distracting the audience from. And the answer was obvious. >star (heh) crossed lovers
I already mentioned in a previous post about Nefcy's use of the blood moon and Jackie's "incompatibility" with Marco a transparent atempt of showing she's not the right one for him. She can say she doesn't believe in that stuff on Twitter and whatnot, but given that she ruined her own show to *make* Starco happen, I doubt she doesn't.
1 week ago
Anonymous
Star DIDN'T become a good queen. She burned it all down. For dick.
1 week ago
Anonymous
For dick she'd probably never even feel cuz they won't last a week
1 week ago
Anonymous
Because from S3 onwards the writers were hellbent on destroying everything previously built for the sake of subverting expectations. That's around the time they decided to go balls deep on the "monsters as minorities" shit, so there' some relation there.
1 week ago
Anonymous
and I'd argue that's when they decided to ditch Jackie and not before.
1 week ago
Anonymous
If you truly believe a character lacking both depth and purpose, whose only connection to the main plot being dating the MC, was supposed to be endgame then I don't know what else to say to you.
If anything, her ending up with Marco would be a bigger subversion of expectations, as having the main m/f couple end up together used to be seen as the bog standard.
1 week ago
Anonymous
Jackie didn't show up much, or for long at a stretch, because Marco's whole problem was lacking the courage to approach her. This problem is finally resolved towards the end of season 2. Jackie now starts appearing more; this is when "depth and purpose" can be brought in but they discard the character instead.
>If anything, her ending up with Marco would be a bigger subversion of expectations, as having the main m/f couple end up together used to be seen as the bog standard.
Obviously.
1 week ago
Anonymous
It's painful to know people out there really lack the brain-mass to realize that Jackie grew in the few episodes she was a larger part of.
Bon bon was an episode that clarified details about her knowing about Marco's crush, as well as showing that she wanted something a lot better than a simple "hey let's dance, oh no, things are not ok here, I'm so superficial I think you suck now" on the contrary they even had the nice scene of her going all "I should have just asked out instead" and then have them be in the middle of little "wink wink" moments during their date.
1 week ago
Anonymous
>the "monsters as minorities" shit
The annoying part is that started out, in non-cancerous form, before the show went to shit. Star encountering the younger generation of monsters who think she's cool or Buff Frog "betraying" Star out of respect for Moon's motherhood were interesting things that seemed like they should lead somewhere...Star becoming the Queen who would bring peace between Mewman and Monster, for instance (instead of the racial punishment authoritarian fantasy we got)
1 week ago
Anonymous
>too unimportant
t. Redditgay
Sorry, but seriously you sound like the kind of homosexual that only watched and never read a thing about the show or even tried to hear anything in the interviews or just tumblr replies.
Back in season 2 we found out through aaron's tumblr that running with scissors was an episode planned for season 1, it was going to be named something different and was going to be an episode where star was barely going to participate, but then they decided to make Mewberty, and the idea was not scrapped, rather changed a little bit to be in season 2.
That little thing explains why when star finds Adult Marco she casually "forgets" to mention Jackie, I'd not be surprised that due to how big S2 was with so many episodes they barely had time to check that detail.
Just like that, there were instances were episodes were scrapped and they were meant to give not only Jackie but also Janna and Marco's two male friends something more, but most of the time ideas were scrapped or changed.
I remember Daron even sharing a pic of Jackie being all green-skinned and the little info she gave was that there were going something like zombies for a Halloween episode.
1 week ago
Anonymous
That's all well and good, but I was talking about the show as it was and still is, not as it could have been. Yes they could and maybe wanted to develop the secondary characters, but that didn't happen so we're left with the show as it is: a mismanaged mess.
In the end, the Starco pairing was all that mattered to Nefcy and she didn't hesitated to destroy characters to delay it (because she wanted to save it for the end) and destroy them even further to actually make it happen.
>Starco was never intended to be the endgame >Star and Marco were based on herself and her (at the time) husband (don't know if they're still together)
>Dangerously cheesy >curves
Careful what you wish for...
Remember when they killed off best girl Janna banana?
But before they killed her, she got friendzoned.
And then Star and Marco fricked. Right then and there, on top of her corpse. Which I personally thought was in poor taste, even by Disney standards. I did appreciate that they were willing to show full penetration though.
Terrace reeks of STDs. I bet she's got more than figners and toes together. So Nefcy. She may have the horse teeth, but at least she's paired with a very ugly guy, so she's got a better chance of being clean. And you don't risk getting your dick cut off, because she's not a misandrist like the other.
Jackie only became a lesbian as a side-effect of the Blood Moon Curse and Starco won't last (confirmed by Nefcy). Jackie and Marco can go back together
Unfortunately the damage is done. Janna, who sidestepped the Blood Moon Curse by not presenting herself as genuine competition to Starco until after the curse was broken at the very end, will win by default. She's basically implied that she's waiting for Marco to blow his other options. The curse was just a happy accident that expedited the process. Manna is postgame.
Jackie only became a lesbian as a side-effect of the Blood Moon Curse and Starco won't last (confirmed by Nefcy). Jackie and Marco can go back together
Reminder that Star and Marco are still together and now Janna is with Tom (confirmed by Nefcy)
Unfortunately the damage is done. Janna, who sidestepped the Blood Moon Curse by not presenting herself as genuine competition to Starco until after the curse was broken at the very end, will win by default. She's basically implied that she's waiting for Marco to blow his other options. The curse was just a happy accident that expedited the process. Manna is postgame.
>self inserters marcocucks are really this delusional
LMAO
Yeah, Marco was out of his league and probably subconsciously self-sabotaged because of it. I'm just surprised it was a French girl that ended up getting her and not some college guy. I could see Marco turning a woman off men though.
i always got the vibe that she was some kind of magical water/mermaid person because of the shell necklace & other shell decorations, but was just pretending to be a normal human and the revelation would happen when Marco started to get close (relationship-wise) to her.
Also her personality, or lack thereof according to some, seems almost unhuman. Nothing can faze her, she never loses her cool.
That probably was going to be a thing before things changed behind the scenes
>Never forget what they took from you
To this I can add that it cleverly changes Jackie's good looks from incidental to meaningful; mermaids are always beautiful.
You need to understand the absolute fricking wasted potential that this show was. Mewmans are lost humans (which Owl House partially ripped off), but they have magical genetic mutations, and in the case of their women experience mewberty and develop bug-like features. Star was supposed to be a Lucifer/Satan/Beelzebub analog for a majority of the show, including her "Star" name, and how she's "fallen" from Mewni by being forced to live on Earth, why her pride is her greatest weakness (and why she's her own antagonist), and apart from the bug-motif, her envy over Marco's and Jackie's blossoming relationship (Beelzebub represents envy).
Marco was supposed to develop into a god of war (Marco=Mars), which is why he's introduced with karate, but then the writers gave him the Heckapoo episode so he could rapidly build his martial arts (while totally missing the full consequences of what that episode entails). He was achieving a demigod status like Heracles, with the Heckapoo episode being analogous to Heracles' trials.
Since Star is technically an evolved human (a fallen angel) and Marco is becoming more than human (a rising beast), their relationship was supposed to be catastrophic until they found the good between their differences. Where they meet in the middle was supposed to be how they overcome their own weaknesses. We see that with how Star helps Marco stop being "safety kid", and we also saw that with Star when she started admitting her faults, ESPECIALLY with Battle for Mewni, but Cotugno has no fricking concept of ideas, themes, and motifs.
Objectively false, anon. You link Marco to Mars, but until the last minute Marco Diaz was actually Sol Diaz. You can't link Sol to Mars or the god of war since he would be Helios and not Ares.
Your show was fricking garbage from beginning to end. There was no alternative superior part that was discarded.
NTA but there are disconnected bits and pieces that hint at a possible interesting story. Marco starts as the "safe kid" who finds Star infuriating (and some episodes like "Fairytopia" imply this was could have lasted longer than just part of the first episode) but gradually starts to break down his staid, moronic persona, especially when he goes to the evil boarding school and initially admires its ordirliness only to be tortured and become the rebel himself. Star is the best thing to ever happen to him but ironically is also the cause of a threat to his life in the first season finale.
Then in the second season, Marco's growth is largely complete and he just has to use that to get through to Jackie and win her over. Star realizes too late that she's fallen in love wih him and for the first time in her life doesn't get what she wants (her having evaded the punishment aspect of being semi-banished to Earth). At the same time her father, whom she adores, feels he's getting old and can't be his daughter's invincible daddy anymore and Toffee's threat to magic means that Star is being pushed towards her mother (as monarch, heir, and wand need to be protected), whom she is more distant with. She loses the magic book and has to start it over from scratch. After her wild and crazy personality seemed like just the thing for the first season, the second season is finally forcing her to face growing up.
I didn't invent any of this; it's all there in the show as it is. It's just not collated into a coherant story.
1 week ago
Anonymous
I see what you mean anon, and I think I know why things changed and were forgotten.
After season 2 they did not renew the contracts for the male writers and directors such as Volpe who also worked in ATLA, and instead they hired female ones to replace the males.
So I assume that any plot points like the ones you think were going to happen, were taken down along with the patriarchy, and instead we got shit episodes like the one where Star spends the entire episode talking to Roiland's broom.
1 week ago
Anonymous
Then they brought in Cotugno out of all people as she took over and sabotaged the show into an insufferable mess.
So you can understand why Marco is into her at a glance. If he was into someone like Starfan, they'd either have to spend time developing it or play it as a joke.
Is there any board with lower standards for female characters than Cinemaphile? I swear, even a brick with a pink bow would be called a bombshell here.
>be thicc white girl with freckles >con coming up >decide to cosplay Jackie >cut my hair like hers and apply blue streak >go to con >shorts >shirt >sneakers >skateboard >shell >Jackie is finished >walk around con >not really expecting many people to notice who I am except serious SvtFoE fans >a few people notice I'm Jackie >see more Star/Marco cosplay duos than I thought I would >almost EVERY Marco comes up to me and talks to me at some point >one actually starts flirting with me and gives me his number >see the Star he was with out of the corner of my eye >she looked pissed >leave
I could barely contain my laughter when I got back to my room."
If Jackie is that thick as an active sporty team she’s going to absolutely blow up when either her metabolism crashes or she stops being so active.
Star eats like crap and is miss twiggy, when her metabolism crashes she’ll be pleasantly thick at worst and if she lays off the sugar still petite.
This.
Not that Jackie eats super great, but fried food and cheese doesn’t get you fat like sugar does. And Star is a bit hyper, but she’s not actively a fitness girl like Jackie.
Star would just fill out if she lost her metabolism, maybe get a bit chubby at worst, but if she cut out the sugar she’d probably stay thin.
Meanwhile Jackie is very thick for her age despite being more active and eating way less sugar. The second she loses her metabolism she’s straight to “pound a day keeps the cute boys away”.
In hindsight maybe that’s why she grabbed a lesbian. They don’t have many options, by the time Slipping Jackie is the size of a barn they’ll be locked in to the relationship. Meanwhile Marco could just leave
1 week ago
Anonymous
No that's how it works at all.
1 week ago
Anonymous
>fried food and cheese doesn’t get you fat like sugar does
Calorie balance gets you fat. Or thin.
1 week ago
Anonymous
> Star would just maybe get a bit chubby at worst
I like that for star butterfly
Not that Jackie eats super great, but fried food and cheese doesn’t get you fat like sugar does. And Star is a bit hyper, but she’s not actively a fitness girl like Jackie.
Star would just fill out if she lost her metabolism, maybe get a bit chubby at worst, but if she cut out the sugar she’d probably stay thin.
Meanwhile Jackie is very thick for her age despite being more active and eating way less sugar. The second she loses her metabolism she’s straight to “pound a day keeps the cute boys away”.
In hindsight maybe that’s why she grabbed a lesbian. They don’t have many options, by the time Slipping Jackie is the size of a barn they’ll be locked in to the relationship. Meanwhile Marco could just leave
>nooooom the character that I use for self insertion was supposed to be god tier! creator and writers were just jealous of him REEEEEE!!!!!!
self inserters always surprise me
Thanks. I was looking at the follow up to the Halloween one and i can't for the life of me remember what I was going to have Janna dressed as. Hekapoo is going to be in Mrs Incredible skin paint.
>pulled this move with 2 girls i know >one started crying, the other one finished the joke before me
im really glad i dont have a small dick so i cant be a victim of a similar joke
This pic just reinforces my ideas of how shit and awful the Diaz and Marco are. Like, fricking Cacti and a palm? Really? Do they not know there's other kinds of plants in México? GOD, i fricking hate chicano shit... Cute stuff, btw, i also enjoy giving Jackie a ton of curves in the right spots
Have Jackie pose like in the photo except she is wearing black dolphin shorts, have a gothic look, and looking at the view (no anon) with a wink kiss with black lipstick. as for the top, be it topless but wearing a fishnet shirt. The shoes remain the same while her hat is a fedora.
1 week ago
Billy
Sorry, i thought i had posted them yesterday
https://files.catbox.moe/k3dcnh.jpg
If you're cool with two, then a pair of drawings of Star getting mogged by Jackie. First a frontal of Star getting tit mogged, and a rear of her getting ass mogged. Jackie should be nude for both and I'll leave it up to you if Stars nude or not
https://files.catbox.moe/97u7if.jpg
could I request Jackie chugging a bottle of water? only if you want to though
https://files.catbox.moe/1c60wi.jpg
1 week ago
Anonymous
it's amazing thank you so much!
1 week ago
Anonymous
>https://files.catbox.moe/97u7if.jpg
Nice. Are you also planning on doing the ass mogging too?
1 week ago
Anonymous
If you're cool with two, then a pair of drawings of Star getting mogged by Jackie. First a frontal of Star getting tit mogged, and a rear of her getting ass mogged. Jackie should be nude for both and I'll leave it up to you if Stars nude or not
1 week ago
Anonymous
If you're cool with two, then a pair of drawings of Star getting mogged by Jackie. First a frontal of Star getting tit mogged, and a rear of her getting ass mogged. Jackie should be nude for both and I'll leave it up to you if Stars nude or not
(Cont)
Also Jackie should be completely casual/oblivious to what she's doing to Star
1 week ago
Anonymous
you should do commissions if you're jumping through all those hoops.
1 week ago
Anonymous
could I request Jackie chugging a bottle of water? only if you want to though
>Do they not know there's other kinds of plants in México?
It's located in Echo Creek Los Angeles, a fictional version of Echo Park, LA. LA is known more for palms, but a lot of people use cacti in their gardening. There are multiple local cactus nurseries.
Jackie is deliberately designed to be attractive because it's important to her role. Hekapoo is attractive just because. There was no actual reason to give her and Marco palpable sexual tension, it's just what they wanted to do.
Star is built like a preteen and meant to be cute but not in an overtly sexual way. Not that that would stop the viewers. Janna is the designated gremlin character and your attraction to her is purely accidental.
Eh, maybe. I don't see much Goku smut, and with Star a lot of it actually has her witnessing the cucking or unaware of it. I've never seen Chi-Chi being sad about being cucked. If anything, I've seen more porn of her fricking Gohan and Goten.
the weirdest thing is that an outfit like this shouldn't be seen as unusual or deviant for a show like star vs. the whole thing is more about the romantic entanglements of the various characters, and they're all teens in high school.
Coombait
jackie was the pixie dream girl for marco, and remember this the fanfic where nefcy's husband chose her over much better options.
I find funny how cumbrains actually thinks this is a fact
Im convinced nefcy didnt expect jackie being that popular, so they make her a lesbian not only to kill starco but also as a shield ''you dont like this? you are homophobic'' because at other case she could be paired with any guy like tom or the guy who star had a crush on season 1
I'm a bit skeptical about the 3rd argument , but I'd say it fits in with
to a degree of indiscreet complicity...
Have you seen Nefcy's husband though lol.
He is like the Hispanic version of Quasimodo.
>He is like the Hispanic version of Quasimodo.
just like marco
Delicious
What else?
>Coombait
>Each girl would suck BBC dick
Nefcy has excellent taste in women (hence Jackie)
Unfortunately Nefcy has the white person flaw of being too trusting of minorities and allowed Cotugno to make Jackie a lesbian, whose lesbian partner is absolutely fricking disgusting.
To be fair. Starco was never intended to be the endgame for the series as Marco preferred Jackie over Star. The moment Cotugno took over, she demolished the series entirely with her shitty political agenda and shipping drama that was never that much necessarily for a episodic show.
Maybe she satisfied her cuck fetish with the concert episode and didn't have any story ideas for Star dealing with her disapointment.
Should've ended with that before the show went to shit.
Nefcy
Starco was supposed to be the endgame since they are the protagonists.
This, it's cartoon law that the male and female protagonists MUST get together, but only at the end of the show.
>MUST get together, but only at the end of the show.
yeah at fact I knew jarco was doomed when ironically they started dating in the middle of the series and not in the ending
Sorry pal, I don't make the rules.
I understood that she wanted to display how these teenage relationships can be messy and how feelings can change. The issue is that with basically everything in the show, it gets shoved into a closet until they go "oh shit we gotta do this story thing" and so it gets thrown into the spotlight for a single episode and then shoved back in the closet again.
Jackie and Marco breaking up would've been fine if over the course of season 3 or earlier, we see him get more conflicted over his relationship and how he feels about Star. But because this plot point gets brought up and resolved in a single episode, it feels too jarring. Marco all of sudden gets super obsessed with Mewni and Star, with Jackie exiting the show on a sudden break up, all within the span of 11 minutes. There's no pace, no sense of it existing within the greater story, it just exists and is obliterated within a short timeframe.
The thesis of the break-up episode is not that he wants a different girl more but that he is addicted to "adventure" and can't live a normal life anymore, despite him doing that stuff since season 1 and not being much of an adventure-seeker once he goes to Mewni permenantly.
They did a basic-ass break-up episode but refused to take responsibility for it.
Yes, that is known to be a trope, but at the same time during S1 and starts of S2 the talk was against it, the few times Daron was asked about she tried to make it clear that star was not that kind of girl, she even went as far as to say that she hated the repetitive "girl meet guy and they are destined", funny enough she did exactly that, which is probably something forced by c**tugno during S3 and 4
Even Sheer (star's voice) tried to make it clear that the whole idea of Marco and Star was to depict a boy and a girl that were friends and nothing else.
>she even went as far as to say that she hated the repetitive "girl meet guy and they are destined"
Then what's the blood moon about? Also there was her very transparent way of trying to show Jackie's not the right one (Marco not having the exact same musical tastes as her and being unable to "read" her mind).
>there was her very transparent way of trying to show Jackie's not the right one (Marco not having the exact same musical tastes as her and being unable to "read" her mind).
That does seem to be what that stuff was aiming at but at the same time it was shallow and moronic.
Personally I think Daron was all about that destined love shit, but had to hold it back when she found herself surrounded by armchair activists. After all starco did become endgame, and I'm sure if it was left to Cotugno's designs, Star would have ended the show as a full on dyke.
Yeah the bloodmoon is a really weird thing, because if you actually watch/read the interviews at the time, she never said "yeah this means they are lovers" or any shit like that, but at the same time it was used to imply they had a connection.
The issue is that Daron being the one person who in theory knew all that needed to be known for being the creator, she evaded too many important things and left them to watcher,s interpretation.
And about Jackie and Marco not sharing things, on the same page we have Daron herself promoting both the spellbook and guide through dimensions, if I remember correctly in the guide you can find Star "interviewing" Jackie and the revelation is that they are closer to the whole "true love" thing that in theory Daron talked as more realistic, she liked Marco but also used that guy from skatecamp as an excuse while she waited for Marco to reach her, pretty much Jackie realizes that she loved Marco long before and even thanks Star for helping her realize it.
Oh an about the whole "can't read mind" as someone else said, it was moronic, because if we take it in another angle, we see Jackie being capable of removing worries from Marco's shoulders without punching him or hurting him like star does, which is a trend at that time, Jackie also manages to help Marco do his first skate "ride" with her (full innuendos) without forcing him or hurting him with magic attacks
I knew Starco was the endgame from the beginning, so it was obvious to me that Jarco would not last. But man, I at least hoped that their inevitable breakup would be much more emotional.
My original headcanon for that was that Marco obviously wouldn't abandon Star to fight the ongoing war against monsters alone, and Jackie would want to support him however she could. Then the constant danger he puts himself into (and Jackie puts herself into, not wanting to leave him alone) would create a strain in their relationship, which would end with Marco realizing that she couldn't abandon Star to her fate, not even for Jackie. Jackie herself would realize that she was growing resentful of Star for being Marco's priority no matter what, and she would hate herself for it (after all she was Star's friend too). Thus with Marco not being able to properly work on their relationship, and Jackie not liking just how jealous and resentful she was becoming, they put and end it and go their separate ways. Tears all around ensue.
Frick me, I guess.
I expected them to not break up, honestly I didn't feel that they just breaking up for nothing made any sense
>it was obvious to me that Jarco would not last
Why? Marco responds negatively to Star's confession. He wishes she hadn't done it and things were back to the way they were before.
This, Marco in no moment shows interest in Star, he even says he never held a girl'd hand and that includes star, that would mean he doesn't consider star a girl, which funny enough connects with other instances where he is shown to treat her like a younger autistic sis.
Example: when Mina is playing on dirt and Star joins, he clearly acts as if star was a baby he is forced to deal with.
Star doesn't show interest in Marco either, at least not until he's taken. Later they did a reversal of that, with Marco not realizing he likes Star until she goes back to Tom.
May I point out that the whole "yo dude you didn't realize? You like star, you have to trust me, I'm a homosexual wig who makes his gf (kelly) life a pain, you have believe my opinion" was a really ridiculous idea? I understand they wanted to make Marco think about it, but why tad? That butthole was clearly the last person in the world anyone would believe to take any advice in love field. Just who the frick was the imbecile who believe that was a good idea?
>Why?
A few reasons. For starters:
>both are MCs, aren't related and spend a lot of time together
Granted, that alone doesn't mean anything, but when romance's on the table you don't hook up your MCs with random NPCs. So either they end up together or with characters that at least have *some* importance to the plot (or a fair amount of screentime). Jackie, bless her heart, doesn't have much importance to the overall plot other than finally forcing Star to confront her own feelings, doesn't have a lot of screentime, has no ties to Mewni, isn't strong enough to kick all sorts of monster ass and never develops beyond being a generally nice, chill gal. Tom has a stronger base to work with, but he comes with his own set of problems.
>romantic red herrings
We had those from the very beginning with what's-his-face, whom Star develops a shallow crush on (I genuinelly don't remember his name) and was very obviously not meant to be. Jackie, like I said before, was just too unimportant and was introduced a bit too late to be a serious contender. Tom was less of one but his and Star's failed relationship, combined with Star's shallow school crush, seemed to me like symbols of Star's impulsiveness and irresponsibility that she needed to grow past if she was to become a good queen. Janna has a strong base too but she never takes advantage of it, prefering to just joke around and act like a creep, which made Marco not want to pursue anything with her either. So with those main suspects set up as just distractions, I just asked myself who would they be distracting the audience from. And the answer was obvious.
>star (heh) crossed lovers
I already mentioned in a previous post about Nefcy's use of the blood moon and Jackie's "incompatibility" with Marco a transparent atempt of showing she's not the right one for him. She can say she doesn't believe in that stuff on Twitter and whatnot, but given that she ruined her own show to *make* Starco happen, I doubt she doesn't.
Star DIDN'T become a good queen. She burned it all down. For dick.
For dick she'd probably never even feel cuz they won't last a week
Because from S3 onwards the writers were hellbent on destroying everything previously built for the sake of subverting expectations. That's around the time they decided to go balls deep on the "monsters as minorities" shit, so there' some relation there.
and I'd argue that's when they decided to ditch Jackie and not before.
If you truly believe a character lacking both depth and purpose, whose only connection to the main plot being dating the MC, was supposed to be endgame then I don't know what else to say to you.
If anything, her ending up with Marco would be a bigger subversion of expectations, as having the main m/f couple end up together used to be seen as the bog standard.
Jackie didn't show up much, or for long at a stretch, because Marco's whole problem was lacking the courage to approach her. This problem is finally resolved towards the end of season 2. Jackie now starts appearing more; this is when "depth and purpose" can be brought in but they discard the character instead.
>If anything, her ending up with Marco would be a bigger subversion of expectations, as having the main m/f couple end up together used to be seen as the bog standard.
Obviously.
It's painful to know people out there really lack the brain-mass to realize that Jackie grew in the few episodes she was a larger part of.
Bon bon was an episode that clarified details about her knowing about Marco's crush, as well as showing that she wanted something a lot better than a simple "hey let's dance, oh no, things are not ok here, I'm so superficial I think you suck now" on the contrary they even had the nice scene of her going all "I should have just asked out instead" and then have them be in the middle of little "wink wink" moments during their date.
>the "monsters as minorities" shit
The annoying part is that started out, in non-cancerous form, before the show went to shit. Star encountering the younger generation of monsters who think she's cool or Buff Frog "betraying" Star out of respect for Moon's motherhood were interesting things that seemed like they should lead somewhere...Star becoming the Queen who would bring peace between Mewman and Monster, for instance (instead of the racial punishment authoritarian fantasy we got)
>too unimportant
t. Redditgay
Sorry, but seriously you sound like the kind of homosexual that only watched and never read a thing about the show or even tried to hear anything in the interviews or just tumblr replies.
Back in season 2 we found out through aaron's tumblr that running with scissors was an episode planned for season 1, it was going to be named something different and was going to be an episode where star was barely going to participate, but then they decided to make Mewberty, and the idea was not scrapped, rather changed a little bit to be in season 2.
That little thing explains why when star finds Adult Marco she casually "forgets" to mention Jackie, I'd not be surprised that due to how big S2 was with so many episodes they barely had time to check that detail.
Just like that, there were instances were episodes were scrapped and they were meant to give not only Jackie but also Janna and Marco's two male friends something more, but most of the time ideas were scrapped or changed.
I remember Daron even sharing a pic of Jackie being all green-skinned and the little info she gave was that there were going something like zombies for a Halloween episode.
That's all well and good, but I was talking about the show as it was and still is, not as it could have been. Yes they could and maybe wanted to develop the secondary characters, but that didn't happen so we're left with the show as it is: a mismanaged mess.
In the end, the Starco pairing was all that mattered to Nefcy and she didn't hesitated to destroy characters to delay it (because she wanted to save it for the end) and destroy them even further to actually make it happen.
>Starco was never intended to be the endgame
>Star and Marco were based on herself and her (at the time) husband (don't know if they're still together)
and by herself, I mean Nefcy the creator of the show, not to confuse anyone
sounds like cope
>t.
Calorie balance gets you fat. Or thin.
Stargay hands typed this
Why didn't she get any butt or adult jokes or fan service? Brittney had the booty shake and suprising pant shot
because she is so bland to make humor with her?
True but if they could do this then they could’ve done it more and with a hotter character
Each girl would suck BBC dick
I like Jackie. Shes great.
>Still need to draw her in Star's battle armor.
Ahh... dude, it's a cartoon character. You might have a problem.
whats the problem there
Shes the bestus
Sex sells. But who's buyin?
For me, it’s Hekapoo and Eclipsa.
A man of taste here.
Dangerously cheesy
>Dangerously cheesy
>curves
Careful what you wish for...
And then Star and Marco fricked. Right then and there, on top of her corpse. Which I personally thought was in poor taste, even by Disney standards. I did appreciate that they were willing to show full penetration though.
She based her off of childhood friend that was the busty one that dressed as Sailor Venus
Who would you guys rather frick, daron nefcy or dana terrace?
Terrace reeks of STDs. I bet she's got more than figners and toes together. So Nefcy. She may have the horse teeth, but at least she's paired with a very ugly guy, so she's got a better chance of being clean. And you don't risk getting your dick cut off, because she's not a misandrist like the other.
Who are these ladies?
Wait!!!
These are little girls!
Out of 10!
To make it obvious on an instantly-understandable level why Marco wanted her, to be suplemented with more nuanced stuff later.
Marco gradually stepping up to impress and win over Jackie is the only good piece of long-form storytelling in the show. And they just threw it away.
I bet Marco misses her and her body now that he’s tied to the annoying flat-chested psycho.
Won't Star eventually have an ass just like her Mom?
Considering that her diet is mostly Mexican food it’ll probably be even bigger.
Jackie only became a lesbian as a side-effect of the Blood Moon Curse and Starco won't last (confirmed by Nefcy). Jackie and Marco can go back together
Unfortunately the damage is done. Janna, who sidestepped the Blood Moon Curse by not presenting herself as genuine competition to Starco until after the curse was broken at the very end, will win by default. She's basically implied that she's waiting for Marco to blow his other options. The curse was just a happy accident that expedited the process. Manna is postgame.
Reminder that Star and Marco are still together and now Janna is with Tom (confirmed by Nefcy)
I hate Jantom so much but girls love it
>self inserters marcocucks are really this delusional
LMAO
They don’t even need to cope this hard, at least their self insert has a girlfriend unlike many other cartoon boys.
>at least their self insert has a girlfriend unlike many other cartoon boys.
Star isn't even the better one.
They need to bring it back.
Are Jackie's shorts suppoed to be denim or cotton?
Definitely cotton booty shorty, like the type you'd get from Pink.
Denim is made of cotton.
Fine, non-denim cotton cloth.
Jackie looks so fertile...she should become pregnant as soon as possible!
Unf
>Marco lost this over a blanket
How can he live with himself?
he can't he killed himself a week after the finale when he saw stars formless body for the first time, he puked for about 8 hours before that tho.
He lost Hekapoo. He's dead inside.
actually hekapoo is the dead one
Yeah, Marco was out of his league and probably subconsciously self-sabotaged because of it. I'm just surprised it was a French girl that ended up getting her and not some college guy. I could see Marco turning a woman off men though.
it was a phase. She'll come back for some good dick when she's had enough of taco.
Any attraction went out the window when I saw that fricking ear of hers.
Teens around that age can vary a lot in terms of development
There was a picture i saw ages ago, that had Jackie in a leather jacket and an AK47, smoking a cigarette. Anyone else remember that?
Here you go.
I love this picture. I don't know why, I do. Mmm. I need to draw her. I keep putting her off.
i always got the vibe that she was some kind of magical water/mermaid person because of the shell necklace & other shell decorations, but was just pretending to be a normal human and the revelation would happen when Marco started to get close (relationship-wise) to her.
but i was way off.
We should've gotten mermaid Jackie
Also her personality, or lack thereof according to some, seems almost unhuman. Nothing can faze her, she never loses her cool.
There are actually people with low neuroticism.
That probably was going to be a thing before things changed behind the scenes
>Never forget what they took from you
To this I can add that it cleverly changes Jackie's good looks from incidental to meaningful; mermaids are always beautiful.
Also that when Jackie showed up in her dress Star exclaimed that she "look(s) like the ocean"
I don't know if mermaid Jackie was truly a thing but there's some pretty compelling evidence. I feel like we were robbed.
You need to understand the absolute fricking wasted potential that this show was. Mewmans are lost humans (which Owl House partially ripped off), but they have magical genetic mutations, and in the case of their women experience mewberty and develop bug-like features. Star was supposed to be a Lucifer/Satan/Beelzebub analog for a majority of the show, including her "Star" name, and how she's "fallen" from Mewni by being forced to live on Earth, why her pride is her greatest weakness (and why she's her own antagonist), and apart from the bug-motif, her envy over Marco's and Jackie's blossoming relationship (Beelzebub represents envy).
Marco was supposed to develop into a god of war (Marco=Mars), which is why he's introduced with karate, but then the writers gave him the Heckapoo episode so he could rapidly build his martial arts (while totally missing the full consequences of what that episode entails). He was achieving a demigod status like Heracles, with the Heckapoo episode being analogous to Heracles' trials.
Since Star is technically an evolved human (a fallen angel) and Marco is becoming more than human (a rising beast), their relationship was supposed to be catastrophic until they found the good between their differences. Where they meet in the middle was supposed to be how they overcome their own weaknesses. We see that with how Star helps Marco stop being "safety kid", and we also saw that with Star when she started admitting her faults, ESPECIALLY with Battle for Mewni, but Cotugno has no fricking concept of ideas, themes, and motifs.
>Marco was supposed to develop into a god of war (Marco=Mars)
jejeje
Objectively false, anon. You link Marco to Mars, but until the last minute Marco Diaz was actually Sol Diaz. You can't link Sol to Mars or the god of war since he would be Helios and not Ares.
Your show was fricking garbage from beginning to end. There was no alternative superior part that was discarded.
NTA but there are disconnected bits and pieces that hint at a possible interesting story. Marco starts as the "safe kid" who finds Star infuriating (and some episodes like "Fairytopia" imply this was could have lasted longer than just part of the first episode) but gradually starts to break down his staid, moronic persona, especially when he goes to the evil boarding school and initially admires its ordirliness only to be tortured and become the rebel himself. Star is the best thing to ever happen to him but ironically is also the cause of a threat to his life in the first season finale.
Then in the second season, Marco's growth is largely complete and he just has to use that to get through to Jackie and win her over. Star realizes too late that she's fallen in love wih him and for the first time in her life doesn't get what she wants (her having evaded the punishment aspect of being semi-banished to Earth). At the same time her father, whom she adores, feels he's getting old and can't be his daughter's invincible daddy anymore and Toffee's threat to magic means that Star is being pushed towards her mother (as monarch, heir, and wand need to be protected), whom she is more distant with. She loses the magic book and has to start it over from scratch. After her wild and crazy personality seemed like just the thing for the first season, the second season is finally forcing her to face growing up.
I didn't invent any of this; it's all there in the show as it is. It's just not collated into a coherant story.
I see what you mean anon, and I think I know why things changed and were forgotten.
After season 2 they did not renew the contracts for the male writers and directors such as Volpe who also worked in ATLA, and instead they hired female ones to replace the males.
So I assume that any plot points like the ones you think were going to happen, were taken down along with the patriarchy, and instead we got shit episodes like the one where Star spends the entire episode talking to Roiland's broom.
Then they brought in Cotugno out of all people as she took over and sabotaged the show into an insufferable mess.
Nice fanfic, but what does that have to do with the show?
>Jackie's blue hair streak is natural
Unfortunately, the shots of Jackie from the past don't show the streak.
Mewberty happens in adolescence.
So you can understand why Marco is into her at a glance. If he was into someone like Starfan, they'd either have to spend time developing it or play it as a joke.
Is there any board with lower standards for female characters than Cinemaphile? I swear, even a brick with a pink bow would be called a bombshell here.
Wrong thread?
There's the orbfricker stuff over on /trash/ sometimes.
I love this picture. I don’t know why I do. Mmmm.
Mmmmm.
Freckly buns
Jackie should really rock the 'no clothes' look more often
It suits her
Can you draw hekapoo getting aroused watching jackie do yoga?
not the artist, just reposting
https://files.catbox.moe/gm24k6.png
yeah, that would be me haha
oh sweet! Nice stuff
Is this one a brief appearance or are you cool with taking some requests?
I need a source. Immediately.
I'm running out of spoons you illiterate frickwit
bump
How does anyone like her better than Star? Terrible taste.
This chef has good taste in cutting boards, I bet you make the toastiest grilled cheese.
Star is more and more of a c**t as the series goes by.
The lack of genocide helps.
>that one greentext of the Jackie cosplayer cucking Star cosplayers
Found it, and will repost it
"I shit you not.
>be thicc white girl with freckles
>con coming up
>decide to cosplay Jackie
>cut my hair like hers and apply blue streak
>go to con
>shorts
>shirt
>sneakers
>skateboard
>shell
>Jackie is finished
>walk around con
>not really expecting many people to notice who I am except serious SvtFoE fans
>a few people notice I'm Jackie
>see more Star/Marco cosplay duos than I thought I would
>almost EVERY Marco comes up to me and talks to me at some point
>one actually starts flirting with me and gives me his number
>see the Star he was with out of the corner of my eye
>she looked pissed
>leave
I could barely contain my laughter when I got back to my room."
Pics?
there were none on the thread, sadly
and one more for good measure!
And yet Marco threw all that away for a sticc
>Threw away Jackie and Hekapoo for Kelly and Star
Based sticc enyojer
bump
If Jackie is that thick as an active sporty team she’s going to absolutely blow up when either her metabolism crashes or she stops being so active.
Star eats like crap and is miss twiggy, when her metabolism crashes she’ll be pleasantly thick at worst and if she lays off the sugar still petite.
(teen not team, had sports on the brain)
This.
Not that Jackie eats super great, but fried food and cheese doesn’t get you fat like sugar does. And Star is a bit hyper, but she’s not actively a fitness girl like Jackie.
Star would just fill out if she lost her metabolism, maybe get a bit chubby at worst, but if she cut out the sugar she’d probably stay thin.
Meanwhile Jackie is very thick for her age despite being more active and eating way less sugar. The second she loses her metabolism she’s straight to “pound a day keeps the cute boys away”.
In hindsight maybe that’s why she grabbed a lesbian. They don’t have many options, by the time Slipping Jackie is the size of a barn they’ll be locked in to the relationship. Meanwhile Marco could just leave
No that's how it works at all.
>fried food and cheese doesn’t get you fat like sugar does
Calorie balance gets you fat. Or thin.
> Star would just maybe get a bit chubby at worst
I like that for star butterfly
MILF
All I'm seeing here is cope
He is The Chicano homosexual
Of course his shrimp couldn't handle all that thickness.
Hollywood lets you draw cute girls so long as they are paired with non-white men or women.
I wonder on what happened to the star bully threads that anons used to make?
marcocucks realized those threads were pointless, it doesnt matter how much they cope with that meme, star cucked literally everybody in the show
>nooooom the character that I use for self insertion was supposed to be god tier! creator and writers were just jealous of him REEEEEE!!!!!!
self inserters always surprise me
Funny to see that she had the same body as Star while being younger
bump
The only thing that makes her attractive are the hip curves
also the green eyes and the light blonde hair
And her chill attitude.
14 is first-year high school IN AMERICA
Well really it's the 8th grade/9th grade split.
There's many things
Made for adult wiener
It's been a while since I've been around. Nice to see a jackie threads are still a thing. I always enjoyed making art of her.
I really love your style
Thanks. I was looking at the follow up to the Halloween one and i can't for the life of me remember what I was going to have Janna dressed as. Hekapoo is going to be in Mrs Incredible skin paint.
I THINK I was going to have Janna wearing the same thing Jackie is. So star is getting double mogged by ghosts.
Just have Janna wear Pasties or a string Bikini and then Hekapoo can just show up naked. Then it'll be "THAT" kind of party.
>pulled this move with 2 girls i know
>one started crying, the other one finished the joke before me
im really glad i dont have a small dick so i cant be a victim of a similar joke
I have a follow up to this roughed out. Maybe I'll actually finish it this year.
This pic just reinforces my ideas of how shit and awful the Diaz and Marco are. Like, fricking Cacti and a palm? Really? Do they not know there's other kinds of plants in México? GOD, i fricking hate chicano shit... Cute stuff, btw, i also enjoy giving Jackie a ton of curves in the right spots
please, share with us these curves you speak of
Did these a few days ago, but i'm not sure i can post one of them
Eh, frick it
Feel like drawing or not in mood today?
Sure
Have Jackie pose like in the photo except she is wearing black dolphin shorts, have a gothic look, and looking at the view (no anon) with a wink kiss with black lipstick. as for the top, be it topless but wearing a fishnet shirt. The shoes remain the same while her hat is a fedora.
Sorry, i thought i had posted them yesterday
https://files.catbox.moe/k3dcnh.jpg
https://files.catbox.moe/97u7if.jpg
https://files.catbox.moe/1c60wi.jpg
it's amazing thank you so much!
>https://files.catbox.moe/97u7if.jpg
Nice. Are you also planning on doing the ass mogging too?
If you're cool with two, then a pair of drawings of Star getting mogged by Jackie. First a frontal of Star getting tit mogged, and a rear of her getting ass mogged. Jackie should be nude for both and I'll leave it up to you if Stars nude or not
(Cont)
Also Jackie should be completely casual/oblivious to what she's doing to Star
you should do commissions if you're jumping through all those hoops.
could I request Jackie chugging a bottle of water? only if you want to though
Make her extra sweaty too
The bottle or Jackie?
Jackie
Requesting Jackie going streaking
Ironically Marco being there ruins a perfectly good Jackie drawing.
That’s not ironic
It's unfortunate because I love the idea of Jackie being a little homewrecker.
>Do they not know there's other kinds of plants in México?
It's located in Echo Creek Los Angeles, a fictional version of Echo Park, LA. LA is known more for palms, but a lot of people use cacti in their gardening. There are multiple local cactus nurseries.
Love the direct implication of Marco ignoring star's ship for superior, thicc woman
that's like, your opinion.
whatever happened to jackiegay
someone probably finally got him to take his meds.... that or he ended himself
Sex with Jackie!
What's Nefcy even doing these days? I haven't heard anything since the show ended.
apparently she made something for we the people, a gay show produced by obama (yeah that obama). but apparently she mostly being a housewife
*Sucks on it*
At least Star has better posture.
Star actually looks like she's curving her back forward actually. Jackie is standing up straight.
She has less weighing her down.
That's not Hekapoo.
no reason for them to compete
Never post your terrible art again
Cry, also, i didn't post it
Jackie is deliberately designed to be attractive because it's important to her role. Hekapoo is attractive just because. There was no actual reason to give her and Marco palpable sexual tension, it's just what they wanted to do.
And where does this leaves Janna and Star in?
Star is built like a preteen and meant to be cute but not in an overtly sexual way. Not that that would stop the viewers. Janna is the designated gremlin character and your attraction to her is purely accidental.
You guys sure like to project your unfulfilling sex lives onto everything you watch huh?
She's not a giant insect with four legs
H-Hello *Gets scared*
I feel like if they went down the Jackie a mermaid route she would look like this.
Typo fricking ruins it
And at least one of them still taste like Marco.
Remember when they killed off best girl Janna banana?
But before they killed her, she got friendzoned.
ok I have energy to do one jackie request. keep it simple.
Draw her showering
seconding, but (assuming you'd like too or) a rear shot with her ass visible
coloring it now. standby
>and
ffuuuuck I can't speell.
The fact there are basically no Star Vs The Forces weight gain story.
There’s Cookie Cravings and Light my Fire, that’s it both meh
Y’all remember her?
Good shit, but I wish I was faster for the butt view
frick it. I got one more in me before it's gaming time.
Sweet
Sweeeeeeet!
Nice ass
thanks!
Nice job.
good shit
Hey that is pretty good!
10/10
Would watch her shower
threads still up huh. I'm gonna do some chores and then get ready to draw. I'll take a request for a warm up.
A rear/butt shot of Jackie riding her skateboard naked, ala The Simpsons movie, but way more confident
More Janna
supposedly at some point there was an idea nefcy had of Jackie getting possessed.
Star just can't compete
mogged
I’ll never tire of Jackie and Hekapoo absolutely mogging Star.
It is kinda funny
im surprised jackie still gets more art
So they can pair her with a mystery meat they/them when a relationship with the MC doesn't (never) works out.
I loved this idea, the 3 pics that were done were amazing.
Jackie being a bit of a yandere and taking good care of her Marco.
Forgot pic
Source.
Now.
Kaze. The pictures are almost 10 years old.
They wanted boys to watch.
Is there a female character with as much cuck art as Star?
depends if you count pigs, then you might have some competition. But only about half of those would apply anyway.
What? WTF are you talking about?
wut
No idea who you're referring to.
chi chi from dragon ball.
Eh, maybe. I don't see much Goku smut, and with Star a lot of it actually has her witnessing the cucking or unaware of it. I've never seen Chi-Chi being sad about being cucked. If anything, I've seen more porn of her fricking Gohan and Goten.
Drew a visual representation of Star struggling with her relationship with Marco.
Epic
Why does not the larger of the two females simply eat the other?
Nice anon.
the weirdest thing is that an outfit like this shouldn't be seen as unusual or deviant for a show like star vs. the whole thing is more about the romantic entanglements of the various characters, and they're all teens in high school.
She needs to be overweight
why?
she's perfect as is
Jackie is American and must be a fatty
Nudist
Jackie deserves to have her smelly feet worshipped after a long, hot day of skating.
Only a matter of time before they busted in and ruined the thread
Why is Jackie built like sex?
Cuz she is sex
Anyone got that pic of Star dreaming that she is blasting people?
Post more Jackies!
no, you post them.
I don't have any on me atm
Why else would I ask?
Does anyone know of the name of the fic where marco comes back from hekapoos dimension with ptsd and shit? I read it years ago and now I cant find it.
Because she’s suppose to be the manic pixie dream girl.
That's literally Star though.