Why did they sideline the boys as the seasons went on to focus almost exclusively on OSI and Guild bureaucracy? Did they just get bored?
Why did they sideline the boys as the seasons went on to focus almost exclusively on OSI and Guild bureaucracy?
Why did they sideline the boys as the seasons went on to focus almost exclusively on OSI and Guild bureaucracy? Did they just get bored?
What're you talking about? The show alwaysed focused on the Venture brothers.
The New York seasons definitely sidelined them a bit
The joke is that Doc and The Monarch are Venture brothers.
Also implied that Billy is a Venture bastard
When was that implied?
Never he’s talking out of his ass, unless his logic is Billy has red hair and Billy’s mom knew Doctor Venture.
Billy's mom had red hair so that bit's meaningless.
I'm not saying that anon isn't talking out of his ass but I think any beautiful woman who's a casual acquaintance of Jonas' is at high risk of being impregnated with his bastard.
It was never implied but the groundwork is definitely there if they wanted to go that direction.
You know, the last season kinda focused on the other Venture Brothers.
the "ooo dr. Venture and The Monarch are secretly brothers ooooooo" thing they were hinting it is such a shite "plot twist" that i can only image it was only born out of people noticing how much alike they look and memeing it into existance
more like it was obvious since the start so they have to reveal it in a careful way, if at all
Dean and Hank were literally the worst part of the show until Season 4.
Killing off all the clones was the best decision the show ever made as they were then forced to make the characters develop.
Dean getting rejected by Triana was also a good choice
But she owed him sex.
Serena was most likely a better lay.
Most likely?
DEFINITELY.
Why’d she cheat on Hank bros?
He's Hank. Just look at him. Literally indistinguishable from his S1 version.
Season 1 Hank was based, Dean has eternally been a wuss
Isn't that from Season 2?
Yeah, from Victor Echo November
I love that episode
Same dude.
But hands down my favorite episode is Viva Los Muertos.
It makes me laugh harder than any other episode.
same, coincidently it was the first VB episode i ever watched and i was hooked immediately. in retrospect i always thought it was kinda funny that my favorite ep was the only one doc and jackson didn't write.
Ehh Season 1, Season 2, same diff.
Go Team Venture!
Probably because, while Hank is immensely charming to talk to and go on a date with, he also has difficulty focusing and understanding the world around him. He'd be great to hang with, but it's difficult trying to imagine him comprehending or tending to the emotional needs of others.
Dean, meanwhile, can at least empathize with the frustration of living underneath the shadow of superscience and all the weirdness it brings, and the desire to be rid of or distant from it. There's a human connection to forge there, and one probably exacerbated by university mandating they spend more time together and as a result her more time away from Hank.
As for why either of them did it, they're stupid teens raised by assholes and crazy people.
I think that implies that Sirena chose Dean over Hank but in reality I think it's just they fucked because they were mutually attracted and now trapped in a snowstorm. Ontop of Hank just not really fitting into her life.
Bitches be shoppin
very real possibility that she - the mischievous daughter of an actual super villain - did it as an act of villainy.
idk, to me it would be very on-brand for the show.
I also always felt like it was very intentional on Sirena's part. Way too convenient that she was the only other student in Dean's botany class. And the way her smile immediately dropped as she was walking away from Dean was kinda weird.
Dean inherited Jonas' dick size while Hank is a premature ejaculator
Hank really does take after Rusty more than Dean does
The display of him brushing a villain away with money checked too many boxes in the female psyche at once
They're late into their teens (Is Sirena 19 or in her early 20's?) and have impulsive urges with racing hormones. Their upbringing and living in a crazy super-science life style has caused them to not have the best judgement. Dean is definitely sexually frustrated/repressed and wanted to bone Sirena after being complimented and touched by her. Sirena became less attracted to Hank the more they hang out and his child-at-heart personality kept shining through (also they could never bone because he premature'd leaving her a little frustrated), compared to Dean's manly "take charge" attitude he was demonstrating over the season including telling off The Monarch.
Compile all that and then lock them in a room together with a bed and the desire for impulsive pleasure takes over.
>spend an entire season of Hank trying to get with her
>in the finale he finally does
>next season she spends like 3 mins with Dean
>cheats on Hank with him
Did the writers want us to hate her?
Honestly, more people were mad at Dean.
Yes
She wasn’t compatible with Dean, get over it
He's a whiny white boy of apparently slightly above average intelligent, how am I...I mean is Dean incompatible?
Just watched this whole show this week and now I fully understand why people get so autistic about the Monarch and his wife in that that shall not be named. They are great.
I agree. Hank and Dean were just annoying and uninteresting until they started going their seperate ways.
The show made it pretty easy to tell in the first episode.
>Hank and Dean were just annoying and uninteresting until they started going their seperate ways.
Am I wrong?
They were *less* interesting, I'll give you that much.
I love thank’s hair during this era
I always associated that look with edgy Hank, so it’s not really a favorite of mine. The buzzcut is charming in its own ways that I feel suits him more
>Did they just get bored?
Probably, which is a shame since I'm a sucker for coming-of-age stories and was fascinated by how Venture Bros. allowed its young protagonists to actually grow and develop, both in personality and in appearance.
I'd argue Dean & Hank we’re still given plenty of focus in the NYC seasons, but it just might not feel that way because at the same time, we did start spending more and more time on the Guild (which I personally grew tired of).
the scope expanded and people became more interested in the setting/background story than the boys. they were never going to do an adventure episode or somethinglike escape to the house of mummies again
I'd say you have it backwards. Up until maybe season 5, the Venture Bros themselves were dumb, one-note gag characters. It wasn't until very late in the show they actually got focus and character development.
because the various other characters are more interesting
24, Orpheus and Shore Leave are the best characters
You got Orpheus right, but you misspelled Hunter Gathers and Helper, bud.
i could see how helper is compelling, but the joke is that he's treated like trash by rusty because he's expendable
hunter gathers is hilarious, but not compelling
Wild how Shore Leave is both a shameless flaming gay stereotype and one of the most charming and beloved characters on the show.
the real Venture Bros was inside us all along.
still go hard
This was a lifetime ago. It's been so long that I don't even want to go back anymore. Huh.
It's so crazy how this song took up 1/8 of the second season's budget but many years later they were able to license "Scary Monsters" for its last season. VB came so far.
>many years later they were able to license "Scary Monsters" for its last season
Bowie being dead probably made things a lot easier for them.
He's not dead, he was just doppleganged by a shapeshifter and got accidentally shot
The Iggy Pop cameo was cool as fuck
>He's not dead, he was just doppleganged by a shapeshifter and got accidentally shot
Not sure if joking or not, but I was talking about the real life Bowie, not VB Bowie/Sovereign.
Alright why the fuck did Quizboy pull out a porn mag at the end of The Diving Bell Vs. The Butter-Glider? What did he mean by that?
cum
I get the glove and lube, Pete can reach in there and get them out. But why the porn? Tell me this instant.
They were in Rusty's urethra (that or his prostate, don't remember). Either way the easiest way to get them out was for Rusty to jack off.
Rusty's still unconscious (They were in his prostate by the way) and laying face down on the slab. Its not for him. So what is it for!!!!
For him to use after he wakes up.
From his prostate?
Yes, to help him jack off in less-than-ideal conditions that would require masturbatory aids.
The prostate produces cum. Although you can feel it through the ass, that isnt actually located.
other anons are wrong. it's so white(?) can project a hot girl onto rusty and doesn't feel as grossed out by having to put a finger up his ass.
This is the first answer that fits with the facts thank you
>The Diving Bell Vs. The Butter-Glider?
shrank vehicle endup in Rusties testies. to release the boys he would have to ejaculate
Hot.
The show never definitely said which pair is THE venture bros. It almost always focused on at least one of them.
It's not a pair anyway, it's 2 trios.
Rusty, Malcolm, and JJ.
Dean, Hank, and… ?
Dermott.
Lol oh yeah, Rusty’s bastard pedo rape child
Hey he didn't know that, she told him she was 20 so that he wouldn't turn her down
It's only rape when someone doesn't consent. Nikki was the one who seduced Rusty and wanted it and Rusty did not object. Rusty was just too sexually desperate to recognize she was underaged.
Try that one out in court, see how far it gets you
Don't need to. I understand the grounds for what qualifies as statutory rape. However we're not talking about the rules of law and how the courts interpret them. We're talking about fictional cartoon characters. How the courts see him is irrelevant. And as such, Rusty's technically not a rapist because he didn't rape anyone.
Weird semantics, I mean yeah he's not a rapist because he doesn't exist, but in the universe of VB he's a confirmed rapist. Obviously he didn't go out of his way to sleep with a minor, but the fact of the matter is he did (in-universe). The acne and juvenile personality probably should have clued retard Rusty in to be fair
I wonder how courts treat such cases. Do they let you off if the girl in question could undeniably pass for legal?
>wonder how courts treat such cases.
Depends on the state, if you can prove she lied about her age and that you had reason to believe that she was an adult, like you met in a bar or club, then you have a chance of being let off the hook
Other states don't give a shit at all and it's jail time and the sex offenders list for you
Well, statutory rape under false pretenses.
I mean, boning the president of your fan club is super skeevy regardless of how old she is but he tried doing the right thing afterwards, so even as a complete jackass he's a massive improvement over his father.
Dermott
that fat kid that people at first thought was brock's kid turned out to be Rusty's actual biological kid. he joined the OCS in later seasons.
Dermott was fat but you could only tell later when he had his shirt off. He doesn't look fat at all with his army jacket on.
found the fatty
Because the boys ran their course and the expended lore was infinitely more interesting. I'd take 10 episodes of guild pencil pushing for 1 episode of dean college drama
>I'd take 10 episodes of guild pencil pushing for 1 episode of dean college drama
You shut your mouth.
Dean especially gets his most screentime and character development in the later seasons, what are you talking about?
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Is this show worth watching?
yes
Most people say the first season is a bit rough and that it gets a lot better with the second season onward
Although it was cancelled which left a lot of plot threads dangling, so now we're waiting for the movie to release to give it more closure, but it still doesn't have a release date
Rusty's VA supposedly said on Twitter that the movie's coming out next year. When, I don't know. My guess is late 2023.
the movie got canceled you chuds
No it didn’t. YOU’RE the chud!
it's really cool how far the production quality went as the show progressed. Season 1 has some seriously weak background work...like holy fuck it's primitive at times, granted the roughest spots are usually contained to very brief shots they still look jarring.
This. The growing level of polish over the years is a thing of wonder. Venture Bros. truly is/was a labor of love from all those involved.
No moron is still dev hell.
I’d argue *some* morons are still in development hell.
how the fuck can something like this happen? VB is insanely popular. wish they could just crowdfund a trilogy of movies / nother season
Contract renegotiation as the series went on would make their already shoestring budget even tighter. They probably aren't at Family Guy/Simpsons levels of having to pay VAs millions of dollars each per episode to continue making it but it's easy to see how shows will outlive their "cheap" production life and get killed for it even if they are still popular and in demand.
>VB is insanely popular
Is it? Rick and Morty is popular, VB just feels like it has a dedicated cult following.
Rick and Morty is Venture Brothers if Venture Brothers had the balls to say "order 100 episodes or fuck off".
People seem to forget that Robot Chicken used to be Adult Swim's most popular show before Rick & Morty came out.
It might be true but I'll never truly believe it. I never met anyone who liked that show irl or online.
I'm almost certain that like VB, Robot Chicken was kept on because of Lazzo. He even voiced himself for the first 2 or so seasons. He was replaced after.
Not really. VB has a strong cult following like a lot of AS shows. Plus one of the major strengths and weaknesses of the show is how much of the work is all done by Doc and Jackson, so everything is made at a much slower pace than other shows
no, only if you like the genre they're parodying
yeah i think so
It's been a part of our lives for so long that we wouldn't even know how to say no. It very much is, though.
It's more or less Cinemaphile the show
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Did they VR?
We need a re-print of the book.
lol nah, you snooze you lose
I didn’t get into the show till 2018. So yeah I did snooze and I fucking lost hard because of it.
damn vro you missed out on soo many t shirts
Lmao, don’t forget the sick bedsheets
Damn thanks anon, I’ll check it out. I’ll find a copy eventually.
i passed on those bedsheets so many times when they'd sell them on asseenonas. funny that they only had twin size. i guess they knew their audience lol
I know it's not the same thing but the book is on readcomiconline if all you care about are its contents.
Go Team Venture? Is it out of print?
that'll be $250 plus tax plus tip please
Didn't realize it was out of print.
Got a copy for a friend the year it came out.
>tfw you got one of the last copies off amazon for a ridiculously cheap price
And I only became a fan last year too
I got my copy last year around this time because someone on Cinemaphile mentioned it was on sale at amazon. I'm so happy I got it because it's ridiculous what scalpers are trying to get out of it kek
You lucked out, man. I hope you enjoy that book.
>gary is cute
Very.
Same, same with all
No. Let the price rise so I can sell it and become rich! RICH! RIIIIIICH!!!
>tfw bought mine with my 40% bookstore discount
onw to Barnes & Noble
fuck i was gonna get it, missed my chance i guess
>not buying it when it was less than $30
You should know better by now.
what will Doc and Jackson work on next?
Read the art book. They explain the thought process that went into every single episode. But yeah a lot of the Venture Bros is just Doc Hammer and Jackson Publick spitballing stuff off of each other.
For me, it's Debbie.
I agree actually, I love dumpy plain housewives with huge hips
Did VB have any more of those besides Dr. Quymn? Asking for a friend haha
Myra is the only prominent one that really comes to mind
OH Wandering Widow and White Bride or whatever Rusty's hookup was. Though they're more straight up older bombshells.
Auntie Matter and Mommy Long Legs are decent background chracters.
Ah, yes. Novia.
This show is so old it might as well be called The Denture Brothers at this point.
Were you sitting on that for a while, anon?
He's very proud I'm sure
Hah.
lmfao
It was a show about Vebture Bros.
Hank and Dean.
Rusty and JJ.
Rusty and Monarch.
seasons got shorter and they couldn't cram everyone in as hard as they tried
Sex with Sheila.
they were never the real focus
>Watching the entire show was one of the last things my ex gf and I did together...
Childhood memories ruined.
How'd you fuck it up?
I just want Orpheus to find new love compared to her bitch exwife
His SEXY bitch ex-wife!
>her bitch exwife
ESL spotted
I really disliked how they changed Brock's character from S1
In S1 he obviously had a screw loose and barely kept his bloodlust in check. Showed far less emotion. Didn't appear to give much shit about the boys personally, just mostly stuck to doing his job.
Later seasons just turned him into a dedicated dudebro character with a soft spot for his adopted family.
I understand that original was harder to work with and not as sustainable, but I preferred the deus ex machina killer brock tbqhwy.
You are completely alone in feeling that way.
Venture Bros evolved from a somewhat mean parody of the old adventure shows for kids to what it is now, so character changes were inevitable.
From an in-universe standpoint, he grew out of it. The episode with Venturestein basically forced him to confront the consequences of his actions and look inward. Brock always had shades of being a father figure anyway, so it's not a huge leap in logic.
A big arc back in seasons 2 and 3 was Brock going from a murder machine to a more professional secret agent.
dawg it's called a character arc
most unpopular opinion itt
I'll do you one better. 24 > 21
Gonna be honest, I agreed with you up until his death. Sadly that really gave 21 an edge over him.
IGNORE ME!!
Because the show was never about Hank and Dean, it was always going to be about the family and their wacky world in general, and how although your life can turn out to be a failure, it's how you deal with it that makes it worth living.
The show tries to portray as pathetic, but he's kind of a chad. He has ventured through many holes.
>his former bodyguard
>the president of his fanclub
>a mutated fly lady
>despite how much she tries to deny it, probably Sheila at some point with how she is
>almost had sex with Dr. Quymn until it's revealed she's epileptic (gross)
>didn't have sex with her, but Sally Impossible was all over him
>Novia seemed interested in him before he passed out
>almost had sex with Dr. Quymn until it's revealed she's epileptic (gross)
That killed me on the first watch. Rusty you dummy (or genius)
>possible siblings
I could see it with how much Jonas got around. By the time the movie comes out, the Venture family tree will be looking like an Overflow game.
And Uncle Gentleman being gay
Notice the angle of the chins. Them and Malcolm.
oh dear god
Venture Bros shows us that you can get all the pussy in the world and still be a loser.
Nicky must've been super fucking developed for Doc not to notice she was 15. Of all the shit you can say about Rusty, he's not a pervert that seeks out teenagers.
I wish I liked Venture Bros. as much as Cinemaphile does. It's a good show, I like it, I just feel like I'm missing something.
What do you think you might be missing? Just watching a few episodes of Johnny Quest or similar shows can help give you the context for what they're making fun of early on. Find a digital copy of the art book they did, the commentary in it is really interesting.
>Johnny Quest
You are now realizing that "Venture" = "Quest"
PLEASE tell me I'm not the only one who's this slow.
I just got that myself, so
Nice, so I’m not alone
Walking eye episode
Rusty """invents""" a walking eye but fed up with all the villains there for Orpheus and not him and proceeds to wash the thing outside in a seductive fashion and all the villains eyeing him up and falling out of the line.
You now realize there was a walking eye in the Jonny Quest intro that never showed up in the show.
There was an entire episode dedicated to the walking eye in Jonny Quest but it looked different from the one in the intro.
The walking eye showed up in the episode the robot spy.
I was disappointed it meant less Dr. Orpheus but they were trying to fix that in Season 7 only for the show to get canceled shortly after. I wish we got to see more of Dean in college though I understand the ideas would be limited. Other than that, yeah it was a good move as it meant Rusty was going to have to start trying. Seeing Rusty, Pete, and Billy being a genuine team and Rusty actually trying to sell his inventions was fun.
Race Bannon shows up in an episode, anons.
Can you imagine how fucking boring 7 seasons of this show would have been if every episode was entirely or even primarily about the boys?
They're fun characters, but ultimately there's only so much you can do with the same two characters, when you have this big, developed world with a shitzillion characters you'd be an idiot to not expand the scope of the show.
yet another example of an adult swim shoes that started strong but got lost in its own minutae
i remember watching an episode and there were SO MANY fucking callbacks to previous episodes I started feeling second hand embarrassment
How is this a bad thing? It's not like it's just for nostalgia. They use it to expand the world and continuity.
On KC Greens old podcast Cartoon Bookclub they have a similar opinion, that the show is “jacking off” with their characters. Never understood the issue, would people prefer a show with less developed characters and continuity? Its what makes VB so unique.
It depends o how its done, I can see it being an issue if it's convoluted for the sake of seeming complex but I don't think Venture Bros does it.
Would you guys say the Season 6 setting change was a good move? I would, it definetly breathed new life into the show. You can tell that the writers were running out of things to do with the Venture Compound by season 4.
No, it was where the show jumped the shark imo and I think the move showed that the writers were running out of things to do with the show period except for the dangling plot threads that will hopefully get wrapped up with the movie.