Why did they think this would sell? By the time it was announced, Bendis had nuked his own reputation years prior.

Why did they think this would sell? By the time it was announced, Bendis had nuked his own reputation years prior.

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  1. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    BENDIS IS CUMMING!

  2. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    It was a reference to Jack Kirby, but Bendis sounds like Benis

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Why did they make something as lame as supermans pal jimmy olsen the first comic that jack Kirby would work on?

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        He used it to introduce Darkseid onto DC and spam cameos from other DC heroes like he did in Marvel

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Which really means he did his same old thing and invented yet another civilization of superpowered guys again like he did with Inhumans and Eternals.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Because Kirby didn't want to kick the Superman team off the book.

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Kirby was too fricking nice. It's funny and sad that he's a dude who could and would throw down in the street but time and again let himself get walked all over or didn't assert himself enough in an industry that was happy to chew him up and spit him out.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            He even give his originals to kids that went to his house to watch him draw. And even get in fights with Roz, his wife, because she asked back for the drawings to the kids.

            >No he didn’t. CW2 tanked.

            Yes and no. The book stayed above 100,000 orders (for comparison: Secret Empire actually went below 100,000 orders with issue #3, and it had a 1:50 J Scott Campbell variant for each issue. That's pretty fricking bad considering Campbell variants are usually in demand), but CW2's problem was that it underperformed compared to Hickman's Secret Wars and the the titles that tied-into civil war II actually lost sales.

            WE know Civil War II was a piece of dogshit, Hell, I have the theory the sales were so high because people wanted Kim Jung Gi's variants for it. But Bendis could go to DC point to the numbers on Comichron and say "My event still got retailers to order more than 100,000 copies each issue" and they'd believe it.

            Civil War lost a shitton of readesrs. Starting with 390k to 110K in its final number. A spectacular way to drop the ball.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Yeah, dunno why he just let people take advantage of him. It seems he wasn't really bothered with it anyways and just wanted to make comics he likes. He definitely deserves his top spot as the King.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Kirby specifically requested to be put on the lowest selling book. Either as a personal challenge for himself or as a way to be kind to the other writing teams

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Everybody is aware of this and OP didn’t at all ask why this was the catchphrase. You’re like one of those morons that enters EVERY captain marvel thread to talk about the rights legal history between fawcett and Warner’s.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        before anybody did that, the whiners who can't accept that DC has never owned any Captain Marvel rights at all and gets to publish Shazam only based on a very generous settlement agreement with Marvel, who DC sued over the very thing they had never owned, were all over those threads

        and frick those guys, they're morons

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      who frickin knows man they moved out of NYC for cost saving reasons but that wiped out a lot of their long-time staffers and left them with a small office on the WB Burbank lot, an office which has got smaller since they arrived even though WB's holdings in Burbank have expanded considerably since then

      see this is even more mystifying

      why would you refer to a deal in which Kirby famously immediately found out he'd been screwed, wouldn't get to do his pet project the way he'd been promised and deliberately took titles nobody else wanted so that he wouldn't be pushing out younger talent?

      He used it to introduce Darkseid onto DC and spam cameos from other DC heroes like he did in Marvel

      his Fourth World was supposed to be separate from the DC continuity, the cameos were at the insistence of editorial, which made him very unhappy

      Which really means he did his same old thing and invented yet another civilization of superpowered guys again like he did with Inhumans and Eternals.

      yeah he was obsessed with a dumbass book about ancient alients called Chariots of the Gods for some reason

      Kirby was too fricking nice. It's funny and sad that he's a dude who could and would throw down in the street but time and again let himself get walked all over or didn't assert himself enough in an industry that was happy to chew him up and spit him out.

      he'd probably decided to just wait out his contract by then, the way Fourth World got fricked over by editorial was pretty bad

  3. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    wait who is bendis coming onto

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Jessica jones while luke cage is nutting inside of her

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous
    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      All over Superman and his family.

  4. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >own reputation years prior
    All that mattered was that Bendis sold books and was the last major Marvel architect by the time DC poached him
    His on paper resume LOOKED good
    Apparently something similar happened when Marvel got John Byrne back
    But with that out of the way, yes Bendis on DC was the last straw that evaporated what was left of his good will

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >All that mattered was that Bendis sold books
      No he didn’t. CW2 tanked.

      >His on paper resume LOOKED good
      No it didn’t. He was universally reviled by then. By woke and non-woke, white black brown and Asian, man woman and child. Everybody already hated him. Everybody knew he’d destroy Superman.

      Saying anything else is completely revisionist.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >No he didn’t. CW2 tanked.

        Yes and no. The book stayed above 100,000 orders (for comparison: Secret Empire actually went below 100,000 orders with issue #3, and it had a 1:50 J Scott Campbell variant for each issue. That's pretty fricking bad considering Campbell variants are usually in demand), but CW2's problem was that it underperformed compared to Hickman's Secret Wars and the the titles that tied-into Civil War II actually lost sales.

        WE know Civil War II was a piece of dogshit, Hell, I have the theory the sales were so high because people wanted Kim Jung Gi's variants for it. But Bendis could go to DC point to the numbers on Comichron and say "My event still got retailers to order more than 100,000 copies each issue" and they'd believe it.

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >Hell, I have the theory the sales were so high because people wanted Kim Jung Gi's variants for it.
          Wasn't it around then that we learned about Marvel's practice of sending books stores didn't even want, but had to pay for the shipping anyway?

          Also reminder this was after the meeting with shop owners where they straight up told Marvel they were killing the business.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            I think it was around that time, and the complaints about it got louder in early 2017

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >No it didn’t. He was universally reviled by then. By woke and non-woke, white black brown and Asian, man woman and child. Everybody already hated him. Everybody knew he’d destroy Superman.
        Key words are on-paper
        You can write the shittiest fricking Star Wars novels and it'd still look good on your resume because nobody is gonna look at the actual fan reception, they're just gonna see that you wrote something for Star Wars

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Bendis already washed by the time of him jumping ship. Like many pointed out his last big event CWII tanked hard and he was slammed for the failure of his new pet character Riri Williams.

  5. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    post the penis is coming edit

  6. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous
  7. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    DiDio isn't very smart.
    Or smart at all.

  8. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >Why did they think this would sell?
    Because DC is out of touch with current comic fans. Or fans in general

  9. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Because in 2020 even comic book publishers caught into the Twitter based mindset of any complaint or really just anything less than total praise and adoration is clearly just angry contrarian screeching by an obviously biased, and likely bigoted incel.

    Bendis also liked to hide any complaints behind claiming anyone who did not love him were just angry that he invented a black girl character in whatever book.

  10. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Did he have any successes at DC?

    It looked like he tanked 3 books, and his original characters are totally forgotten. He even fell into obscurity now and has not worked on a major book in years.

  11. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous
  12. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    All publicity is good publicity.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      In comics?
      Not at all

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Yeah, look at those sales figures!

        What do you think is keeping them from being completely cancelled and gettng them the sales that they have? Trying every cheap tactic in the book, including making people talk about them in outrage.

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          You'd think publishing good material instead could help...
          Oh wait, it would! There was this interview where DilDio was upset because classic, good issues reprinted were selling better than the current drivel.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Yeah, look at those sales figures!

  13. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous
  14. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    gilmore girls dialogue

    rachel maddow dialogue

  15. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous
  16. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I went from buying a bunch of DC to not buying any DC at all after this.

    Superman probably had the best platform for ongoing stories he had had since the post CoIE reboot, and it took Bendis two months to destroy ALL of it.

    He kicked all the other writers off the super books and then immediately broke all the things they built.

    What a huge fricking butthole.

  17. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Now that Bendis is stuck trying to rebuild himself all by himself at his imprint at Dark Horse, it feels like there's an empty void in cape comics
    Sure we have Tom Taylor, Tini Howard, and the occasional flavor of hackish writing of the month but Bendis' levels of infamy were just that huge

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I dunno, Jason Aaron tried pretty hard
      Guess bendis just noticed Dark Horse was one publisher he hadn't crippled yet

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