Agreed and checked, I actually like the concept, its different and adds a unique depth to his species
2 years ago
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but it's a completely pointless embellishment because the audience will never know that shit unless they read the script
2 years ago
Anonymous
at the end of day, this... if it's not in the movie, it might as well be fanfiction. All we know is the motherfricker got angry when he was told "look what I created!", and it was a robot. That tells you he's dissapointed in us.
The small facehugger was so much scarier and more interesting than this. It could hide anywhere, in any small crevice, and was so fast and nimble that it'd be on you before you could react and if you didn't have anyone to help, you'd faceraped.
You have a point, I remember the scene where Ripley and get Newt get locked in with the facehuggers was my favourite scene because of how tense it is. A general idea in Hollywood with monsters and creatures is that bigger=more scary which is funny because they never manage to utilize size for greater horror. Just being chased through a forest by something massive that knows you're there would be a good concept for a horror scene.
The jesus thing is just a dumb move. It comes off as cliche and stupid to an atheist, and offensive to a christian or any other religious person. It serves only to cause hate
They cut it because it's unnecessary. The engineer smashed Weyland because Weyland was a hubristic dickhead demanding immortality when the Engineers don't even give immortality to themselves. Death, renewal, the cycle of life, fathers handing the torch to their children, etc. are constantly recurring themes with the Engineers and the human characters as well. Weyland standing there with all his life-extending gadgets attached to him, and using a fake lifeform to translate his demands for more life, was an outrageously one-the-nose confirmation that humanity had gone down a path that's offensive to the Engineers' values. You can easily infer all this from the context provided throughout the movie leading up to this point. Charlize Theron even gives that little "A king has his reign" speech to Weyland just in case audiences needed it spelled out. The whole Jesus thing just isn't necessary to get this across and muddles the message to boot, which is doubtless why they scrapped it.
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any idea why this happened, why did they cut it if it was so important?
The problem is the film builds up Shaw as a christian seeking to find a scientific basis for her faith.
Without giving us enough of a connection to go with, the audience just assumes its just a quirk of her character when in all actuality it's important to the context of the film.
The christian connection is otherwise non existent. It's saturated in the background. You have to literally read online shit to find out about the Jesus allegory xenomorph the Engineer mentions as "our lord".
well that's why they were so over the top with beating it into our heads that >BILLY CRUDUP IS A CHRISTIAN GUY >HE'S ALL ABOUT CHRIST >HEY LOOK AT THE WAY THIS XENOMORPH POSES
it was hhhhhaaaaammmmmfisted
>they were so over the top with beating it into our heads
They weren't on the nose enough because they were worried about offending morons like yourself.
It does sound like scientology. Why are so many movies introducing us this crap of us being created by Aliens? A lot of people even consider this the most likely origin of the human race
They cut it because it's unnecessary. The engineer smashed Weyland because Weyland was a hubristic dickhead demanding immortality when the Engineers don't even give immortality to themselves. Death, renewal, the cycle of life, fathers handing the torch to their children, etc. are constantly recurring themes with the Engineers and the human characters as well. Weyland standing there with all his life-extending gadgets attached to him, and using a fake lifeform to translate his demands for more life, was an outrageously one-the-nose confirmation that humanity had gone down a path that's offensive to the Engineers' values. You can easily infer all this from the context provided throughout the movie leading up to this point. Charlize Theron even gives that little "A king has his reign" speech to Weyland just in case audiences needed it spelled out. The whole Jesus thing just isn't necessary to get this across and muddles the message to boot, which is doubtless why they scrapped it.
The jesus thing is just a dumb move. It comes off as cliche and stupid to an atheist, and offensive to a christian or any other religious person. It serves only to cause hate
Its a metaphor for the nazis and the holocaust. Which really happened and if we forget it israelites might lose their grip over western culture and society.
I'm never gonna be able to find the old pasta about space 16 foot elephant men forcing humans to have gay sex to make babies. Saw it spammed for a year at least before the trailer released
The Engineers appeared 2000 years ago and were seen by the people of the time as Jesus and the apostles, and the Engineer we know as Jesus was killed by the selfish humans, so in order to enact the book of Revelation, the Engineer planning to wipe out humanity took on the role of the angel of death to cleanse humanity for its sins, to bring forth judgement day and as punishment for killing Jesus, who was the innocent alien child depicted on the mural. When humans finally arrive at their planet, they appear no better in their wantonness, asking for the secret to immortality, mimicking immortal life with a crude automaton, had they learned nothing? No, despite their capacity for interstellar travel, they were still but mindless savages. They had crucified their savior once, and they would surely crucify again.
Shut up christcuck or I'll barbarically kill you just like we allegedly did to jesus even though he probably never existed and was a combination of several different figures
They disturbed his nap
Ask your microwave to tell your absentee father you'd like to be immortal. See what he does.
My microwave can't talk 🙁
Because they brought Jesus to their world, taught him about God and how to save Humanity's soul, and upon return, the Humans crucified him
there's more to this but basically
the engineer had his lines transcripted on screen, then they took them out
He said a lot of stuff that was removed
Lol you’re trying to say that broken English garbage is real?
It's from the Prometheus script that's easily available for download online
>if it’s online it must be real!
you can get a real version of it if you want and it'll say the same thing, you turbo dork
This would have been one of the most legendary conversations in the history of cinema if it had been released in its original format.
The Jesus thing would have the internet fighting each other to this day
> Speaking can take away centuries of their lives
It's kino.
Agreed and checked, I actually like the concept, its different and adds a unique depth to his species
but it's a completely pointless embellishment because the audience will never know that shit unless they read the script
at the end of day, this... if it's not in the movie, it might as well be fanfiction. All we know is the motherfricker got angry when he was told "look what I created!", and it was a robot. That tells you he's dissapointed in us.
i think the real context using imagery from the movie without headcanons
>he was runing away from the serpent bio-creatures
>humans open up his crypt and now he knows he is fricked
>which really happen a few scenes later
these humans are the least of his concerns
>humans open up his crypt and now he knows he is fricked
Fricked how?
like this
The small facehugger was so much scarier and more interesting than this. It could hide anywhere, in any small crevice, and was so fast and nimble that it'd be on you before you could react and if you didn't have anyone to help, you'd faceraped.
You have a point, I remember the scene where Ripley and get Newt get locked in with the facehuggers was my favourite scene because of how tense it is. A general idea in Hollywood with monsters and creatures is that bigger=more scary which is funny because they never manage to utilize size for greater horror. Just being chased through a forest by something massive that knows you're there would be a good concept for a horror scene.
This is how it looks & feels the first time your gf sits on your face.
It's a shame they completely wasted the Deacon.
It's like Baltimore or Detroit
The Jesus thing makes more sense when you remember it's set during Christmas.
>we engineered you
>it's your fault that you turned out shitty
who is the incel writing this cringe fanfic?
The problem is the film builds up Shaw as a christian seeking to find a scientific basis for her faith.
Without giving us enough of a connection to go with, the audience just assumes its just a quirk of her character when in all actuality it's important to the context of the film.
The christian connection is otherwise non existent. It's saturated in the background. You have to literally read online shit to find out about the Jesus allegory xenomorph the Engineer mentions as "our lord".
well that's why they were so over the top with beating it into our heads that
>BILLY CRUDUP IS A CHRISTIAN GUY
>HE'S ALL ABOUT CHRIST
>HEY LOOK AT THE WAY THIS XENOMORPH POSES
it was hhhhhaaaaammmmmfisted
>they were so over the top with beating it into our heads
They weren't on the nose enough because they were worried about offending morons like yourself.
So Prometheus is like reverse Jesus?
Are you telling me the whole point of the entire Alien franchise is blaming the israelites for humanity's doom? Fricking based.
Can't believe humans were made by a bunch of morons who can only cope and seethe
>~~*Humans*~~
It does sound like scientology. Why are so many movies introducing us this crap of us being created by Aliens? A lot of people even consider this the most likely origin of the human race
Have you even met one?
They cut the most importance scene of the film so it doesn’t make any sense
any idea why this happened, why did they cut it if it was so important?
They cut it because it's unnecessary. The engineer smashed Weyland because Weyland was a hubristic dickhead demanding immortality when the Engineers don't even give immortality to themselves. Death, renewal, the cycle of life, fathers handing the torch to their children, etc. are constantly recurring themes with the Engineers and the human characters as well. Weyland standing there with all his life-extending gadgets attached to him, and using a fake lifeform to translate his demands for more life, was an outrageously one-the-nose confirmation that humanity had gone down a path that's offensive to the Engineers' values. You can easily infer all this from the context provided throughout the movie leading up to this point. Charlize Theron even gives that little "A king has his reign" speech to Weyland just in case audiences needed it spelled out. The whole Jesus thing just isn't necessary to get this across and muddles the message to boot, which is doubtless why they scrapped it.
I agree it's unnecessary, but that's not the reason it was scrapped. They got rid of it because Lindelof thinks obfuscation is art.
Stepping on ants.
Am I the only one who wants to have sex with a Promethean?
Are there promethein women?
Only if it's a cute girl engineer
The jesus thing is just a dumb move. It comes off as cliche and stupid to an atheist, and offensive to a christian or any other religious person. It serves only to cause hate
Its a metaphor for the nazis and the holocaust. Which really happened and if we forget it israelites might lose their grip over western culture and society.
>Why did they want to kill the humans?
cause we are a bunch of c**ts
I'm never gonna be able to find the old pasta about space 16 foot elephant men forcing humans to have gay sex to make babies. Saw it spammed for a year at least before the trailer released
Humanity has always been a mistake
The humans were the real monsters
The Engineers appeared 2000 years ago and were seen by the people of the time as Jesus and the apostles, and the Engineer we know as Jesus was killed by the selfish humans, so in order to enact the book of Revelation, the Engineer planning to wipe out humanity took on the role of the angel of death to cleanse humanity for its sins, to bring forth judgement day and as punishment for killing Jesus, who was the innocent alien child depicted on the mural. When humans finally arrive at their planet, they appear no better in their wantonness, asking for the secret to immortality, mimicking immortal life with a crude automaton, had they learned nothing? No, despite their capacity for interstellar travel, they were still but mindless savages. They had crucified their savior once, and they would surely crucify again.
Shut up christcuck or I'll barbarically kill you just like we allegedly did to jesus even though he probably never existed and was a combination of several different figures
>In the thrilling masterpiece, Prometheus, how come the robots want to kill the humans?
Because humans put them in a shitty movie. I would be mad too.
Because we're not white enough. They didn't tell you?
They seeth at chad human species not needing them and dont giving a shit about their muh creation homosexualry
Frick xenos, frick space jannies too.
they considered us extremely flawed and a bunch of no good homosexuals.
Some dumbass b***h science dude reason
Too melanated for his liking