But then how could they make fun of how completely ridiculous Scots sounds how unintelligible the Scottish are if they make a full dub of it?
Because God forbid you show a language and culture some actual fricking respect.
I'm going to ignore the rest of what you said and mention this. A lot of people don't know this, but there is more than one type of Scottish accent. They just put the Glaswegian one in everything because its the most obvious.
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>its the most obvious.
Whose the most obvious?
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What I'm saying is the Glaswegian (Glasgow) accent is the accent used (either genuinely or a really bad impression) for pretty much every Cinemaphile Scot, but there are other Scottish accents, some which are more subtle even.
but Marida realizes she doesn't need to be atronk independent womyn, literally the whole point of the conflict was that she was trying too hard to be that
did you even watch the movie
She still ends the movie that way. She just had to find a diplomatic way to say "I don't want to be married off to some inbred autist that got a lucky shot and this arranged marriage system in general is asinine"
Yeah.
But she's not a prize and all of the boys are forced to try to Wed this b***hy dykey loon that will slit their throat in their sleep.
>She still ends the movie that way
no she doesn't she realizes that by breaking traditions and going against her parents ver childish spite she harmed the stability of everything and everyone
You guys really are seething over this fictional little girl huh
I say they should have had some lad from farther afield as suitors.
An alliance with the Ui Neill, Strath Clotta, or Northumbria would benefit the family and she gets to feel like a rebel for picking a foreigner
I loved this movie. It was what made me want to live in the rural Scotland or some other Celtic country. Bonus if you get a red head thick-accent gf. Fricking peak comfy.
Try visiting lesser known Celtic regions like Galicia, Cantabria, Asturias, and Trás-os-Montes. They are more rural than Scotland, Ireland, Wales, Cornwall, the Isle of Man, and Brittany.
I also fricking enjoy this movie, mostly due to the beautiful setting and animation. I admit the storyline is not as strong as it could be, but the humor and whimsy is enough to keep you interested and the story is overall inoffensive. This is actually one of my favorite sequences in any Pixar movie https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NvR9YOpDG4A
>directed and story written by Brenda Chapman >produced by Katherine Sarafian
it's definitely a feminist movie, maybe more than Frozen (which was produced by a guy)
I like Brother Bear but we didn't need Brother Bear II and this movie most certainly didn't need to be Mother Bear. Like Doug put it, this could've been a Miyazaki inspired film about a scottish princess running through cool landscapes, and they fricking blew it. We all know why though, the change in director and all. But I highly doubt the movie ever was what people wanted it to be.
They tried to push that the "villain" was this big, scary bear (which isn't interesting), when the REAL villains were parental expectations and societal gender roles (which is even less interesting).
Merida was the villain, she was a selfish twat throughout the whole thing and only started to accept the blame for everything when she thought it was too late to fix.
it was still better than Madagascar 3, Ice Age 4 and Hotel Transylvania that same year, or Kung Fu Panda 2 and Cars 2 a year before (especially Panda 2 since that was a scam)
it was still better than Madagascar 3, Ice Age 4 and Hotel Transylvania that same year, or Kung Fu Panda 2 and Cars 2 a year before (especially Panda 2 since that was a scam)
you have issues if you think Panda 2' nonstop attempts at laughs or giggles are effective. It's a consistently unfunny comedy. We're talking bad joke after bad joke
it was a geniunely bad film. The jokes aren't funny, the tragic backstories aren't original or fleshed out, the drama isn't engaging, the action is repetitive, the pacing is rushed, the comedy/seriousness isn't well balanced, the villain is annoying and not compelling, the ending twist cheapens the plot, etc. Dreamworks ripped us off with Kung Fu Panda 2
Kung-fu panda is a trashy ghetto ass crap heap that should have dumped that fat lazy butthole po and replaced him with tigress.
Tigress and the villains story is more compelling and all of the morals po teach ate just fricking awful.
feminist trash with maybe the worst story of any pixar movie >my mom turned into a bear
ok, maybe that's something you can use as a gag for a minute or two, not as the entire plot of your movie
This movie gets really fricking cool and atmospheric about three times for what amounts to probably five minutes of total screentime. It makes me feel like there's a better movie lurking under the surface that we didn't get to see.
>annoying, unlikable heroine >bland, uninspired plot >despite taking place in Scotland, uses zero Scottish folklore, instead it's all just miscellaneous European stuff >the plot would actually make more sense if it took place in Russia - think about it, forest witch, bears, those are Russian things
Nah, it was just a conceptual clusterfrick. Turning Red resembles it in the worst possible way. Both want to be Mulan, and both completely missed the point. >Frick our heritage, I can do what I want. >Stop forcing me to be like you!
vs >Our culture is everything, it defines us. >Self-sacrifice and heroism.
Trailers and advertising made it look like a dark action adventure. It turned out to be a paint by numbers coming of age story with generic characters and zero teeth.
See if it was just Brother Bear with the genders flipped it wouldn't have been so jarring with the first half and second half being almost two different movies. It also wouldn't have had the first half which was annoying and predictably offensive.
It just wasn't very good, the story wasn't interesting and everyone but Meredith feels like a background character so there was no one for her to really interact with. Should have had some shy cute boy that wasn't in the competition, who is her buddy that she keeps bullying and dragging around.
That description fits the scrawny looking guy that won the archery contest by accident, they could have done something with him instead of the snorefest we got
>Why didn't Brave catch on as well as other Disney films, Cinemaphile?
The story just wasn't very good. I remember people were genuinely stoked for some high-fantasy kino (which IIRC is what was originally planned before the writer got sacked) and all we got was yet another "Hur dur my mom doesn't understand me" snoozefest.
You actually got it backwards. The mother daughter relationship stuff was always the main point while the Evil Bear Mordu stuff was something the replacement director brought in.
There was still greater consequences for the kingdom when Merida turned her mom into a bear, but because that plot thread involved an unseasonable winter and this was being made while Disney was developing Frozen, it got scrapped for redundancy and saving on effects budget.
7 million.
never leave the cave without it.
Brave really missed out by not making a Scots dub or a Scots Gaelic dub. I mean even the Lion King had a pointless Zulu dub.
But then how could they make fun of how completely ridiculous Scots sounds how unintelligible the Scottish are if they make a full dub of it?
Because God forbid you show a language and culture some actual fricking respect.
>Scots
>culture
Why, yes, do you want a music, movie, or series example?
>Seething anglo upset England cannot exert power overt the island anymore.
Keep crying
>you can’t have fun with the language and how it sounds
Some people think their language is sacred and above fun.
Scottish and British wienerney are the two that under zero circumstances should be treated as anything but a joke.
I'm going to ignore the rest of what you said and mention this. A lot of people don't know this, but there is more than one type of Scottish accent. They just put the Glaswegian one in everything because its the most obvious.
>its the most obvious.
Whose the most obvious?
What I'm saying is the Glaswegian (Glasgow) accent is the accent used (either genuinely or a really bad impression) for pretty much every Cinemaphile Scot, but there are other Scottish accents, some which are more subtle even.
What other Scottish accents?
>Do you know what nemesis means?
Stronk, b***hy, need no man, action girls have not and will never catch on. Can poison a girls mind, but it won't make them open their purse
but Marida realizes she doesn't need to be atronk independent womyn, literally the whole point of the conflict was that she was trying too hard to be that
did you even watch the movie
She still ends the movie that way. She just had to find a diplomatic way to say "I don't want to be married off to some inbred autist that got a lucky shot and this arranged marriage system in general is asinine"
Yeah.
But she's not a prize and all of the boys are forced to try to Wed this b***hy dykey loon that will slit their throat in their sleep.
Bitchy loon yeah, but Merida was pretty excited about the huge Conan looking motherfricker until the little twerp stepped out from behind him.
>She still ends the movie that way
no she doesn't she realizes that by breaking traditions and going against her parents ver childish spite she harmed the stability of everything and everyone
You guys really are seething over this fictional little girl huh
I say they should have had some lad from farther afield as suitors.
An alliance with the Ui Neill, Strath Clotta, or Northumbria would benefit the family and she gets to feel like a rebel for picking a foreigner
It's too gay and not in a good way
I loved this movie. It was what made me want to live in the rural Scotland or some other Celtic country. Bonus if you get a red head thick-accent gf. Fricking peak comfy.
Try visiting lesser known Celtic regions like Galicia, Cantabria, Asturias, and Trás-os-Montes. They are more rural than Scotland, Ireland, Wales, Cornwall, the Isle of Man, and Brittany.
I also fricking enjoy this movie, mostly due to the beautiful setting and animation. I admit the storyline is not as strong as it could be, but the humor and whimsy is enough to keep you interested and the story is overall inoffensive. This is actually one of my favorite sequences in any Pixar movie https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NvR9YOpDG4A
Since the villain was pretty much a blank slate, there wasn't much dramatic tension.
It wasn't very good.
i liked it. Prince of Egypt director making a Pixar film was interesting
>Movie about Scots
>Not lovable drunk Irish
There is your problem. You wanna make a movie about drunk, violent, red headed people.
>directed and story written by Brenda Chapman
>produced by Katherine Sarafian
it's definitely a feminist movie, maybe more than Frozen (which was produced by a guy)
Nope, it wasn't. It was eventually taken over by a male director, though not much was changed by him if I recall correctly.
I like Brother Bear but we didn't need Brother Bear II and this movie most certainly didn't need to be Mother Bear. Like Doug put it, this could've been a Miyazaki inspired film about a scottish princess running through cool landscapes, and they fricking blew it. We all know why though, the change in director and all. But I highly doubt the movie ever was what people wanted it to be.
They tried to push that the "villain" was this big, scary bear (which isn't interesting), when the REAL villains were parental expectations and societal gender roles (which is even less interesting).
The real villain was the mouse for not letting the original vision come through.
What was that?
Merida was the villain, she was a selfish twat throughout the whole thing and only started to accept the blame for everything when she thought it was too late to fix.
Main character is fricking ugly.
Nope, she's cute
Boring as frick.
because it was an actively bad movie
it was still better than Madagascar 3, Ice Age 4 and Hotel Transylvania that same year, or Kung Fu Panda 2 and Cars 2 a year before (especially Panda 2 since that was a scam)
i can understand liking Transylvania more tho. It's funnier and has Mavis as a single
hotel transylvania was fricking kino
>Panda 2 was a scam
Elaborate?
it's an unfunny 81 mins snorefest. Trash storyline
Fricking homosexuals
you have issues if you think Panda 2' nonstop attempts at laughs or giggles are effective. It's a consistently unfunny comedy. We're talking bad joke after bad joke
What's with the panda 2 hate on this board? and don't say sharkgay because I doubt it's the same moron going around
it was a geniunely bad film. The jokes aren't funny, the tragic backstories aren't original or fleshed out, the drama isn't engaging, the action is repetitive, the pacing is rushed, the comedy/seriousness isn't well balanced, the villain is annoying and not compelling, the ending twist cheapens the plot, etc. Dreamworks ripped us off with Kung Fu Panda 2
Kung Fu Panda 2'is one of the most boring animated films in history
Even if it's bait I hate americans, go watch Thor or something
not baiting. Panda 2 is a one star out of five movie. Nothing about it is entertaining or involving. It was a scam
shut up moron
you first
Kung-fu panda is a trashy ghetto ass crap heap that should have dumped that fat lazy butthole po and replaced him with tigress.
Tigress and the villains story is more compelling and all of the morals po teach ate just fricking awful.
>the villains story
Rent free
It's just kind of mid. It didn't live up to Pixar's reputation at the time. It would be much better received today.
feminist trash with maybe the worst story of any pixar movie
>my mom turned into a bear
ok, maybe that's something you can use as a gag for a minute or two, not as the entire plot of your movie
Brave girl was ugly. I remember working in Walmart back then and the girl co-workers thought she ugly as frick when her merch came in
don't you miss CG films like Antz, Shrek 1 and The Incredibles sometimes? I certainly do
why the frick would you include antz
It's sharkgay, just tell him to frick off and move on.
Antz is kino. Not the prettiest visuals, but a very good script and soundtrack
the script blows
"what if wooday allen was a fricking ant who gets ptsd and starts a rebellion"
so dumb
Death file
This movie gets really fricking cool and atmospheric about three times for what amounts to probably five minutes of total screentime. It makes me feel like there's a better movie lurking under the surface that we didn't get to see.
Brave had the potential to be a great movie, they just needed a good main character.
No strong songs, and Meridian had a boring wardrobe.
The princess was ugly as shit.
>Woad paint and tartans in the 10th century
I blame Sir Walter Scott for this kind of thing
>annoying, unlikable heroine
>bland, uninspired plot
>despite taking place in Scotland, uses zero Scottish folklore, instead it's all just miscellaneous European stuff
>the plot would actually make more sense if it took place in Russia - think about it, forest witch, bears, those are Russian things
I have an idea for a Tam Lin adaptation.
Disney was actually going to make a Tam Lin movie, but it got scrapped for whatever reason. Maybe the story didn't have enough name recognition.
Also the pregnancy thing
Didn't stop them from doing Rapunzel or Sleeping Beauty
The story was a mess (probably because of studio interference).
Nah, it was just a conceptual clusterfrick. Turning Red resembles it in the worst possible way. Both want to be Mulan, and both completely missed the point.
>Frick our heritage, I can do what I want.
>Stop forcing me to be like you!
vs
>Our culture is everything, it defines us.
>Self-sacrifice and heroism.
I love that Disney has also agreed that Merida can be improved with the addition of bodypaint.
We really do need more red-headed Scottish Warrior Women in fiction.
ACH! CRIVENS!!!
"What the frick are you looking at?"
sauce?
Crisisbeat
Literally, who?
Blender porn artist whose flagship project is "Disney Princesses in a coomer fantasy adventure setting"
>coomer fantasy adventure setting
Nice
Boat.
He's just recently added Belle and Snow White to the roster.
Does he have Ariel with the fish tail and not the legs?
Not right now unfortunately.
Shame, that.
Trailers and advertising made it look like a dark action adventure. It turned out to be a paint by numbers coming of age story with generic characters and zero teeth.
Gingers don't draw. It's proof that Hollywood is right when they racechange them
>the anon reading this starts de-materialising
Only thing I remember about brave is that I was part of this autistic fanbase when I was young.
Kino
I remember the collective cultural groan that was let out after they finally revealed the plot was "Me Mams a bear!!"
As a Scot it was immensely disappointing. I've written out the whys on Cinemaphile too many times now.
I've legitimately never seen it, can you give me a cliffnotes version?
Brother Bear but with a mommy and the genders flipped.
and a better script
See if it was just Brother Bear with the genders flipped it wouldn't have been so jarring with the first half and second half being almost two different movies. It also wouldn't have had the first half which was annoying and predictably offensive.
Frick off algorithm
Who is Off Algorithm?
>all the homosexuals itt saying Marida was annoying
just sounds like you have the patience of a toddler
Because it is not about a Archer Princess but a literal Brother Bear movie but with mommy and daughter instead
Bad name. Also replacing directors mid production and removing many parts of the story such as a heavier focus on magic.
It just wasn't very good, the story wasn't interesting and everyone but Meredith feels like a background character so there was no one for her to really interact with. Should have had some shy cute boy that wasn't in the competition, who is her buddy that she keeps bullying and dragging around.
That description fits the scrawny looking guy that won the archery contest by accident, they could have done something with him instead of the snorefest we got
>Why didn't Brave catch on as well as other Disney films, Cinemaphile?
The story just wasn't very good. I remember people were genuinely stoked for some high-fantasy kino (which IIRC is what was originally planned before the writer got sacked) and all we got was yet another "Hur dur my mom doesn't understand me" snoozefest.
You actually got it backwards. The mother daughter relationship stuff was always the main point while the Evil Bear Mordu stuff was something the replacement director brought in.
There was still greater consequences for the kingdom when Merida turned her mom into a bear, but because that plot thread involved an unseasonable winter and this was being made while Disney was developing Frozen, it got scrapped for redundancy and saving on effects budget.
Because it's bland as frick.
It's fricking shit
Kung Fu Panda 2 is better, despite what the resident schizo says
Kung Fu Panda 2 is garbage and nothing you say will change that. Terrible screenplay
Gingers are disgusting subhumans
I remember liking this a lot when I was a kid, but i see pixarbros like Schaffrillas saying its one of the worst ones
She's ugly
moronic plot, characters look offsetting.
irish are the enslavers, anon
But it did?