Why didn't the Avengers, Fantastic Four, or Spiderman stop the Sentinels from genocide marginalized folks?
Why didn't the Avengers, Fantastic Four, or Spiderman stop the Sentinels from genocide marginalized folks?
Why didn't the Avengers, Fantastic Four, or Spiderman stop the Sentinels from genocide marginalized folks?
>not our problem
But they dealt with them when it was.
They were busy
Wasn't the assumption that eventually the sentinels started to expand their priorities to any meta-human, not only the ones with the x-gene?
Yes. Even MJ's baby was identified as a mutant back when Onslaught unleashed a shitload of them during his event.
Yeah, so the answer would be: "All those guys were also dealing with the sentinels, so they couldn't help the X-men especifically"
They did. Back then when Sentinels were destroyed it was harder to bring them back, which is why you had Sentinels Mark I, Mark II and so on
And Stephen Lang after Trask died
What about Spider-man? He's literally friend with iceman
Iceman is to cool to ask for help.
Yes, Thats why I said THEY did. Sure I only mentioned Avengers, but I've meant not only also FF, Spidey, but also Power Pack, Defenders, Dr Strange, Ghost Rider, New Warriors (among others)
Motherfricker DID you goddamn moron, Sebastian Shaw (a mutant himself) personally sent one to kill Spiderman as a test for Sentinel capabilities. Christ X-gays really don't read anyone else's comics
That show has never been canon except as a joke cameo in Spiderverse where they all die.
I really like this run. Larsen was on point when he was drawing ASM.
For most of Marvel history, they have.
Why X-Men never tried to stop Ultron or Kang from genociding/ conquering everyone on the planet?
They did stop Count Nefaria few times
Because their books have other plots. Sometimes comic books fans intentionally make themselves not understand their favourite medium...
>Sometimes comic books fans intentionally make themselves not understand their favourite medium...
You need to understand the mind of an X-gay, anon. To them the X-books are the only part of Marvel that actually matters, and the other heroes should be spending all of their time fixing the X-Men's problems or they're just bigots for not fixing all the problems mutants created for themselves.
To make matters worse, Bendis wrote X-Men as if Sentinels in 616 Marvel were a constant ever-present threat patrolling America for decades, like things were ALWAYS like the opening arc of Ultimate X-Men, and too many people act like this is true rather than actually read old comics.
In actual 616 canon, the Sentinels were almost always stopped pretty quickly by one hero or another, and until Morrison's Wild Sentinels destroyed Genosha there were only about 4 mutant deaths caused by Sentinels. Two were at the hands of Nimrod, one more was retconned away in recent years as a faked death, and the other was Larry Trask having one of his own deactivated Sentinels fall on him.
Modern X-gays cause my old-timer X-gay self so much pain.
Makes me wonder, should the Marvel Universe not be a thing? Would it be better if all the heroes existed in their own little bubble, like the old movies?
I am starting to feel like all these X-Men stories where Cyclops or Emma Frost yells at other heroes for "not being there", or different books and editorial offices having turf wars over control of certain characters are pushing the shared universe to breaking point, where we really would be better off if books were more self-contained.
They did though, there is an entire Cap arc about him going up against the Sentinel program and America's anti mutant frickery as well as both the Falcon and Spiderman fighting off some. Read some goddamn comics before you post
maybe the comics should make it more explicit. I'm surprised that you will justify reading a none X-Men book to explain that plot hole.
Or maybe you should read other shit or even absorb a more broad base of trivia before you post you moronic fricking homosexual
hack x-writers have generally (and specifically bendis with beast) depended on Avengers, FF, Spider-Man NOT being around to help. if the FF, Avengers or Spider-Man had answered Beast's call for help when rightclops started the path to krakoa, marvel wouldn't have been able to make shitty attempts at selling shitty O5 comics
if rightclops actually accepts help from captain america when they have a conversation in the savage land so a process of mutant integration starts, then marvel can't shit out uninspired fascist ethnostate stories
X-Men works better as a pocket universe that’s largely disconnected from wider Marvel stories.
X-Men works better when it isn't ALL MUH RACISM ALLEGORY ALL THE TIME.
I thought it's an LGBT allegory now?
I think it mostly dips its toe in the LGBT allegory, but it's definitely both.
Mutants as an allegory for gays and lesbians has the same issue as being one for race. As a trans allegory it simply doesn't work.
I still think they're just a good allegory for outsiders in general.
What are the issues and why don't it work?
For one the discussion around them. Trans/LGBT people are not as persecuted as they would love to believe, just because you were bullied in high-school for being an obnoxious homosexual doesn't make you enemy of the state. Plus you have an entire political party that is dedicated to advancing their cause - nobody is helping mutants at all. They don't get a "Mutant acceptance month" or have the President issue a declarations about Mutants or have Mutant pride parades in their order. It's all very much an allegory of a very long time ago that exists still to this day like the guilt from slavery, who cares if you never experienced stonewall firsthand I am apart of the tribe so it all matters to you equally.
I mean in short they aren't a protected class of people. Look at Dave Chappelle for example. Worlds greatest comedian getting attacked by a whole community for telling jokes. "Bake the cake" "were coming for your kids" and all that jazz.its a very much "it's real in my head" type of proposition.
With minorities I guess it makes more sense with the civil rights movement but that's where it stops there too.
>capatcha knows
clearly it doesn't. just look at krakoa.
Goddam that cover is sick. Anyone have a version without the logo?
It's called an editor. Look them up.
The in-universe reason is that Chuck X asked the illuminati to let the Mutants handle mutant business so that mutants would be perceived as handling their own problems and also so that like Cap or Ben wouldn't die by mutant hands.
Muties aren't people.
It's not "canon" but John Byrne's self-published continuation of his run with Claremont does have Sentinels going after non-Mutants like abducting Franklin Richards.
>non-Mutants like abducting Franklin Richards.
There's a frick ton to unpack in those words.
It's been years, anon. Let it go. He's better off like this.
They should have complied