What did he even want?
Why were the rings so lame?
Why was it a big deal if he got his ring back? Just cut off his hand again
Why didn’t he just put a door on the volcano?
What did he even want?
Why were the rings so lame?
Why was it a big deal if he got his ring back? Just cut off his hand again
Why didn’t he just put a door on the volcano?
A modern reading would show that he was actually the good guy
He stood for scientific and moral progress. He wanted power, but only as a servant for historically oppressed races and to implement an equitable society without power structures (similar to communism needing government only in early stages while non-communist governments exist)
Men and elves were historically privileged races (dwarves and Hobbits were privileged to a degree but only to the extent allowed by men and elves in order to have "model" minorities to "prove" their rulership of middle earth wasn't "racist"
Orcs, goblins, and the other "evil" races were historically oppressed, forced to live in dark places eating food with poor nutrition (the only why they had lower impulse control and looked uglier)
Working with sauron they seemed violent but thats because the stories are told from the lens of privilege. To the privileged, equality seems like oppression.
All sauron wanted was diversity, equity, and inclusion
>A modern reading would show that he was actually the good guy >He wanted power, but only as a servant for historically oppressed races
Historically orcs are just elves who have no inhibition, making orcs related to the oppressors and continuing to make life worse for men, frick elves
I understand that you are presenting an alternative interpretation of Sauron's character and motivations in The Lord of the Rings. However, this reading is not supported by the text itself, which consistently portrays Sauron as a power-hungry and malevolent force seeking domination and control over Middle-earth.
While it is true that some races in Middle-earth, such as orcs and goblins, have been historically oppressed and marginalized, it is not accurate to equate Sauron's desire for power with a desire for social justice or equality. Sauron's ultimate goal is to enslave and dominate all of Middle-earth, not to promote diversity, equity, and inclusion.
Furthermore, this interpretation ignores the complexities of the story and the nuanced portrayals of the characters and their motivations. It is important to engage with the text in its own context, rather than superimposing modern ideologies onto it.
WRONG
like in REAL life, the history of Middle earth is written by the PRIVILEGED
what you are reading is not the ACTUAL history of middle earth, you're reading the history of middle earth through the eyes of the PRIVILEGED
you have to read between the lines to understand what is actually going on. Its called SUBTEXT you dumb fricking buffoon
Yeah sure
[...]
A modern reading would show that he was actually the good guy
He stood for scientific and moral progress. He wanted power, but only as a servant for historically oppressed races and to implement an equitable society without power structures (similar to communism needing government only in early stages while non-communist governments exist)
Men and elves were historically privileged races (dwarves and Hobbits were privileged to a degree but only to the extent allowed by men and elves in order to have "model" minorities to "prove" their rulership of middle earth wasn't "racist"
Orcs, goblins, and the other "evil" races were historically oppressed, forced to live in dark places eating food with poor nutrition (the only why they had lower impulse control and looked uglier)
Working with sauron they seemed violent but thats because the stories are told from the lens of privilege. To the privileged, equality seems like oppression.
All sauron wanted was diversity, equity, and inclusion
some russian atheist actually wrote a book about this called the last ring bearer. the gondorians are anti progress feudal chuds holding back society
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Yes, we can see all around where so-called "progress" leads. Gondor was right in stalwartly refusing this madness and protecting old ways.
5 months ago
Anonymous
>chud would rather shit in a bucket than benefit from then industrial revolution to own the libs
If you don't like what the west has accomplished you could always frick off to india to live with your fellow street shitters
5 months ago
Anonymous
Not a fan of the Black person worship and weird gay/troony shit. Ngl tbhfam
5 months ago
Anonymous
Do you even notice how entirely egotistical your position is? Yes, a few generations, including ours, can benefit. But at the cost of complete collapse soon after, both demographic and societal. This is simply immoral.
5 months ago
Anonymous
>understating the benefit and overstating the "collapse"
Its immoral to shit on the hard work of your betters to prop up your ideological beliefs
5 months ago
Anonymous
When the West is dying out, it is clear that something has gone wrong, regardless of ideological beliefs.
5 months ago
Anonymous
It's also clear that blaming the industrial revolution, the very thing that allowed for the high standards of living and class mobility that make the west worth saving, is ridiculous.
by your logic we should reject the renaissance and throw out the enlightenment because they put us on the path to ruin as well. Your idea of saving the west is destroying what made it special in the first place
5 months ago
Anonymous
>we should reject the renaissance and throw out the enlightenment because they put us on the path to ruin
This but unironically.
5 months ago
Anonymous
Got just the place for you m8, now frick off
5 months ago
Anonymous
They're not white and the climate doesn't suit my race.
Maybe if they kept the caste system put in place by our mutual ancestors maybe you'd have half of a point, but as it stands you're just pretending to be moronic.
5 months ago
Anonymous
Yes, you are correct. I see nothing wrong with a world that is permanently stuck in the late medieval period. The hardships for common people are many, but the model itself can be preserved almost eternally. To risk it all for a fleeting sense of superiority is madness.
5 months ago
Anonymous
They're not white and the climate doesn't suit my race.
Maybe if they kept the caste system put in place by our mutual ancestors maybe you'd have half of a point, but as it stands you're just pretending to be moronic.
you are no better than the Black folk living in mud huts, like Black folk you were uplifted from a life of poverty and squalor by other peoples hard work, and just like the Black folk your only instinct is to ruin and destroy a prosperous society so you can be free to wallow in your own muck again
5 months ago
Anonymous
Yes yes go and read your Alisa Rosenbaum. Completely ignore the European standard of both living and academic thought before the memenaissance. Surely that's comparable to Black folk with no buildings above 1 storey.
But hey, Tomas de Aquinas was just some moronic chump, better to go worship some spineless homosexual like Voltaire.
5 months ago
Anonymous
The only reason you know or have had the opportunity to read any of the meme authors are the societal and technological advances that you're decrying. You would have been a peasant with no education from the day you were born to the day you died unless you joined a monastery in the time period your romanticising
5 months ago
Anonymous
the wests accomplishments are more than technology, and it’s not modern tech that elevated westerners above street shitting, it was being white. western art, literature and philosophy is what makes us superior, technology came after that culture already existed, not before
5 months ago
Anonymous
What happens when you can't charge your electric car because its too cold
I understand that you are passionate about this topic, but please refrain from using offensive language and personal attacks. It's important to respectfully engage in discussions and consider multiple perspectives. Let's focus on exploring the nuances of Middle Earth's history and the role of privilege in shaping narratives.
If he wanted “scientific progress” then why wasn’t his empire any more scientifically advanced than the other races? His people are just a bunch of moronic savages, none of his infrastructure compared to any of the human castles or elvish palaces or dwarvish smithing
He’s just a generic le evil evilz guy, his only propensity and Mordor’s only characterising trait is hat the entire place is overcompensated with black edginess, fire pits, barren sand, agonied ghosts and torture dungeons. Nothing “scientific advancement” about it, he’s just edgy and likes killing plants and torturing people
the elves don’t really invent shit. their whole deal is that they are synonymous with nature, they don’t reshape it like men. the elves have magical wisdom that humans don’t, but it’s innate.
>why wasn’t his empire any more scientifically advanced than the other races
It was. Barad Dur was his masterpiece, for example. A truly unassailable fortress of gargantuan scale. Quasi-industrial slave farms in Mordor fed an enormous army, despite being tiny. Ironwork was streamlined for mass production. Sauron created a perfect state for total war.
It wasn’t. The human castles were way more impressive than that twig, and dwarves forged entire kingdoms by hand and hammer underground, and the human elvish and drawvish armies all steamrolled him at every turn.
The only benefit Sauron’s slave farms gave him was satisfying his cartoonishly evil fetish for bdsm and whipping deformed moronic cripples to no obvious advantage
Look, read some history. Levée en masse completely overtook small professional armies for a reason. It doesn't matter that the quality of elven troops is superior. Sauron can afford to lose army after army, while elves are irreplaceable.
The human castles were built by the ancient Aryan gigachads that have long since gone extinct. It's quite explicitly stated men could not build structures the likes of Minas Anor nor Orthanc anymore.
The rings weren't lame. They gave a massive passive boost to your stats as well as "aligned" fate to "your" (Sauron's) will. Pretty fricking powerful tbqh
>What did he even want?
Order. He loved control and organization. He wanted to eliminate the "chaos" of the natural world. He was a Maia of the Smith god Aule and he like to craft things and set things in the proper place. >Why were the rings so lame?
The rings were significant. Galadriel made Lorien timeless and pristine while also protecting it from attack. Saurons worked like a power boost stat increase and gave him the ability to dominate other ring bearers and other magic shit. >Why was it a big deal if he got his ring back? Just cut off his hand again
He would return to full power. It isn't entirely clear from the movies and such but there aren't really enough people left that could take him. It took Gil-galad and Elendil to 2v1 him and they both still died. Gil-galad was the last high king of the Noldor and Elendil was like 6'11" Numenorean gigachad. The armies of the free peoples were not numerous enough to win the war proper. They would have eventually been overrun. Destroying the ring destroys sauron, and then his massive armies would scatter. >Why didn’t he just put a door on the volcano?
Didn't need to. It was in the middle of the plains of gorgoroth with tens of thousands of orcs between any would be malcontents and the crack of doom. Also, Sauron did not think anyone would destroy the ring. It was too powerful. Nobody could. No living being possessed the will to destroy the ring intentionally. Most people struggled to hand it over to someone else let alone throw it in lava. It was only destroyed by accident. By itself, actually.
Ya, that is the point dipshit. He underestimated the humble little hobbits and didn't expect them to do what they did. That's the theme here. He was evil and arrogant and assumed others were of like mind to him. That is, he thought that people like Aragorn and Gandalf would seek to keep the ring and use it themselves. He wasn't entirely wrong either. Saruman wanted it. Denethor wanted it. His hubris blinded him to the idea that a people could be so simple and humble as a hobbit. That is why a hobbit had to carry the ring. They can resist it because they only want to garden and pound hobbitussy. Power and authority don't matter to them. You think he expected midgets to make it past the horrifying monster spider? That they could sneak through gorgoroth without being caught? At the last moments, he thought Aragorn had the ring. He though Aragorn marched on the black gate because he was wienery from ring power.
for someone who dislikes chaos his underlings acted pretty chaotic.
He wasn't responsible for them. Orcs were made by Morgoth. Morgoth wanted to destroy shit. He wanted to corrupt and break Illuvitar's works.
Sauron was a follower of morgoth and his chief lieutenant. Orcs were followers of darkness and enemies of the light/westerness and were therefore willing to serve and follow Sauron when Morgoth was gone. Many men also followed Sauron and they were certainly as chaotic as the orcs.
It did not exist back then. Barad Dur is quite recent and was designed by Sauron himself. Also, it was not a gigantic 1.5 thousand-meter tower in the books.
It's size doesn't help when the besiegers can just starve you out.
Sauron likely realised this has a sallied out and met elves and men on the field of battle where his large number of orcs actually mattered
> why is he thinking about a truck stop in pennsylvania?
Because a soulless concrete jungle is what Sauron ultimately wants.
The obsession with Breezewood is baffling. It's literally a truck stop in the middle of 50 miles of farms, unincorporated forests, and state designated hunting grounds in Pennsylvania.
>Truck stop? Noooo the truck doesn't stop here. Breezewood is simply another path, one that we all must take. The gray curtain of asphalt and billboards rolls back, and all turns to silver glass. And then you see it. >See what? >50 miles of farms. And beyond? Unincorporated forests and state designated hunting grounds, beneath a swift sunrise. >That's not so bad. >No...no it isn't.
You gotta understand sauron was representative of heterosexual oppressing gays. He was secretly gay but repressing it. Look at all the israeliteelry he made and his shoes. Dude was a queer. Hahaha gay
Hobbits have Clocks, Plumbing, Mills, Looms, Blown Glass, Umbrellas, Tobacco, Coffee, a legal system, a postal service, matches, fireworks
Elves invented medicine, seafaring boats, circumnavigation, magical smithing and artifacts
Dwarves invented unbreakable materials, had the best quality smithing weapons and armor in the world, built the most by far, hollowed out entire mountains
Humans invented the best fortresses like Minas Tirith, flying machines, siege weapons, ironclad ships
All Sauron ever did was poorly equip his legion of mass produced morons with the shoddiest and lowest quality crude weapons in the entire world. He never stood for science, he stood for a generically evil guy whose passions were torture, torture dungeons, torture gimp suits, and mass produced torture gimps he breeds by torturing elves
Not in the original three books he didn’t. He stood for a generic cardboard conqueror burning down carthage and salting fields, he never built or industrialised anything.
Despite appearances and unsophisticated opinions (like yours), generic evil conquerors are rare in fantasy. There is always deeper motivation hiding behind hordes of orcs, trollocs or shanka. You just need to read the books to understand it.
I like to pretend the industrial revolution bit from the 2012 olympics opening ceremony was really just about the destruction of the shire and kenneth brenner was playing sauron
He was kind of like the Emperor of Mankind.
He's all big promises and power but he's actually evil.
Horus is like Vigo mortenson, the secret disgraced good guy.
The emperor wants order and to rule mankind
Horus wants mankind to have free will which means chaos
Same thing with lotr
>THAT'S RIGHT wienerSUCKA
>GO BACK TO THE SHIRE
UNCLE SAURON MY ASS
What did he even want?
Why were the rings so lame?
Why was it a big deal if he got his ring back? Just cut off his hand again
Why didn’t he just put a door on the volcano?
he wanted scientific progress, he wanted to subordinate nature and society to rational material ends. tolkien was criticizing modernity.
Yeah sure
A modern reading would show that he was actually the good guy
He stood for scientific and moral progress. He wanted power, but only as a servant for historically oppressed races and to implement an equitable society without power structures (similar to communism needing government only in early stages while non-communist governments exist)
Men and elves were historically privileged races (dwarves and Hobbits were privileged to a degree but only to the extent allowed by men and elves in order to have "model" minorities to "prove" their rulership of middle earth wasn't "racist"
Orcs, goblins, and the other "evil" races were historically oppressed, forced to live in dark places eating food with poor nutrition (the only why they had lower impulse control and looked uglier)
Working with sauron they seemed violent but thats because the stories are told from the lens of privilege. To the privileged, equality seems like oppression.
All sauron wanted was diversity, equity, and inclusion
>A modern reading would show that he was actually the good guy
>He wanted power, but only as a servant for historically oppressed races
Historically orcs are just elves who have no inhibition, making orcs related to the oppressors and continuing to make life worse for men, frick elves
I understand that you are presenting an alternative interpretation of Sauron's character and motivations in The Lord of the Rings. However, this reading is not supported by the text itself, which consistently portrays Sauron as a power-hungry and malevolent force seeking domination and control over Middle-earth.
While it is true that some races in Middle-earth, such as orcs and goblins, have been historically oppressed and marginalized, it is not accurate to equate Sauron's desire for power with a desire for social justice or equality. Sauron's ultimate goal is to enslave and dominate all of Middle-earth, not to promote diversity, equity, and inclusion.
Furthermore, this interpretation ignores the complexities of the story and the nuanced portrayals of the characters and their motivations. It is important to engage with the text in its own context, rather than superimposing modern ideologies onto it.
chatgpt
WRONG
like in REAL life, the history of Middle earth is written by the PRIVILEGED
what you are reading is not the ACTUAL history of middle earth, you're reading the history of middle earth through the eyes of the PRIVILEGED
you have to read between the lines to understand what is actually going on. Its called SUBTEXT you dumb fricking buffoon
some russian atheist actually wrote a book about this called the last ring bearer. the gondorians are anti progress feudal chuds holding back society
Yes, we can see all around where so-called "progress" leads. Gondor was right in stalwartly refusing this madness and protecting old ways.
>chud would rather shit in a bucket than benefit from then industrial revolution to own the libs
If you don't like what the west has accomplished you could always frick off to india to live with your fellow street shitters
Not a fan of the Black person worship and weird gay/troony shit. Ngl tbhfam
Do you even notice how entirely egotistical your position is? Yes, a few generations, including ours, can benefit. But at the cost of complete collapse soon after, both demographic and societal. This is simply immoral.
>understating the benefit and overstating the "collapse"
Its immoral to shit on the hard work of your betters to prop up your ideological beliefs
When the West is dying out, it is clear that something has gone wrong, regardless of ideological beliefs.
It's also clear that blaming the industrial revolution, the very thing that allowed for the high standards of living and class mobility that make the west worth saving, is ridiculous.
by your logic we should reject the renaissance and throw out the enlightenment because they put us on the path to ruin as well. Your idea of saving the west is destroying what made it special in the first place
>we should reject the renaissance and throw out the enlightenment because they put us on the path to ruin
This but unironically.
Got just the place for you m8, now frick off
They're not white and the climate doesn't suit my race.
Maybe if they kept the caste system put in place by our mutual ancestors maybe you'd have half of a point, but as it stands you're just pretending to be moronic.
Yes, you are correct. I see nothing wrong with a world that is permanently stuck in the late medieval period. The hardships for common people are many, but the model itself can be preserved almost eternally. To risk it all for a fleeting sense of superiority is madness.
you are no better than the Black folk living in mud huts, like Black folk you were uplifted from a life of poverty and squalor by other peoples hard work, and just like the Black folk your only instinct is to ruin and destroy a prosperous society so you can be free to wallow in your own muck again
Yes yes go and read your Alisa Rosenbaum. Completely ignore the European standard of both living and academic thought before the memenaissance. Surely that's comparable to Black folk with no buildings above 1 storey.
But hey, Tomas de Aquinas was just some moronic chump, better to go worship some spineless homosexual like Voltaire.
The only reason you know or have had the opportunity to read any of the meme authors are the societal and technological advances that you're decrying. You would have been a peasant with no education from the day you were born to the day you died unless you joined a monastery in the time period your romanticising
the wests accomplishments are more than technology, and it’s not modern tech that elevated westerners above street shitting, it was being white. western art, literature and philosophy is what makes us superior, technology came after that culture already existed, not before
What happens when you can't charge your electric car because its too cold
I'm glad that you are admitting a distinct lack of differences between the orcs of Middle Earth and nonwhites in our world.
I understand that you are passionate about this topic, but please refrain from using offensive language and personal attacks. It's important to respectfully engage in discussions and consider multiple perspectives. Let's focus on exploring the nuances of Middle Earth's history and the role of privilege in shaping narratives.
>chud has to run to ChatGPT to try and save him from losing an argument
Embarrassing
HELLO AI SAR PLEASE DO THE NEEDFULL REDEAM FOR ME A ONE REPLY TO SHITPOST THANK YOU SAR
If he wanted “scientific progress” then why wasn’t his empire any more scientifically advanced than the other races? His people are just a bunch of moronic savages, none of his infrastructure compared to any of the human castles or elvish palaces or dwarvish smithing
He’s just a generic le evil evilz guy, his only propensity and Mordor’s only characterising trait is hat the entire place is overcompensated with black edginess, fire pits, barren sand, agonied ghosts and torture dungeons. Nothing “scientific advancement” about it, he’s just edgy and likes killing plants and torturing people
The orcs had trebuchets and shit. They are good engineers
So did every other rac, and much much more. The elves had already invented medicine.
the elves don’t really invent shit. their whole deal is that they are synonymous with nature, they don’t reshape it like men. the elves have magical wisdom that humans don’t, but it’s innate.
>why wasn’t his empire any more scientifically advanced than the other races
It was. Barad Dur was his masterpiece, for example. A truly unassailable fortress of gargantuan scale. Quasi-industrial slave farms in Mordor fed an enormous army, despite being tiny. Ironwork was streamlined for mass production. Sauron created a perfect state for total war.
It wasn’t. The human castles were way more impressive than that twig, and dwarves forged entire kingdoms by hand and hammer underground, and the human elvish and drawvish armies all steamrolled him at every turn.
The only benefit Sauron’s slave farms gave him was satisfying his cartoonishly evil fetish for bdsm and whipping deformed moronic cripples to no obvious advantage
Frick, even Hobbits invented clocks and plumbing.
Look, read some history. Levée en masse completely overtook small professional armies for a reason. It doesn't matter that the quality of elven troops is superior. Sauron can afford to lose army after army, while elves are irreplaceable.
The human castles were built by the ancient Aryan gigachads that have long since gone extinct. It's quite explicitly stated men could not build structures the likes of Minas Anor nor Orthanc anymore.
They had gunpowder and invented a bomb, and made Grond in a big forge
Even hobbits had gunpowder. They play with fireworks and matches
t. does not have a Grond
The rings weren't lame. They gave a massive passive boost to your stats as well as "aligned" fate to "your" (Sauron's) will. Pretty fricking powerful tbqh
Even when Sauron had his own ring he was weaker than a regular gut with a regular sword. They’re fricking lame!
>What did he even want?
Order. He loved control and organization. He wanted to eliminate the "chaos" of the natural world. He was a Maia of the Smith god Aule and he like to craft things and set things in the proper place.
>Why were the rings so lame?
The rings were significant. Galadriel made Lorien timeless and pristine while also protecting it from attack. Saurons worked like a power boost stat increase and gave him the ability to dominate other ring bearers and other magic shit.
>Why was it a big deal if he got his ring back? Just cut off his hand again
He would return to full power. It isn't entirely clear from the movies and such but there aren't really enough people left that could take him. It took Gil-galad and Elendil to 2v1 him and they both still died. Gil-galad was the last high king of the Noldor and Elendil was like 6'11" Numenorean gigachad. The armies of the free peoples were not numerous enough to win the war proper. They would have eventually been overrun. Destroying the ring destroys sauron, and then his massive armies would scatter.
>Why didn’t he just put a door on the volcano?
Didn't need to. It was in the middle of the plains of gorgoroth with tens of thousands of orcs between any would be malcontents and the crack of doom. Also, Sauron did not think anyone would destroy the ring. It was too powerful. Nobody could. No living being possessed the will to destroy the ring intentionally. Most people struggled to hand it over to someone else let alone throw it in lava. It was only destroyed by accident. By itself, actually.
> Didn't need to
But he did though
Ya, that is the point dipshit. He underestimated the humble little hobbits and didn't expect them to do what they did. That's the theme here. He was evil and arrogant and assumed others were of like mind to him. That is, he thought that people like Aragorn and Gandalf would seek to keep the ring and use it themselves. He wasn't entirely wrong either. Saruman wanted it. Denethor wanted it. His hubris blinded him to the idea that a people could be so simple and humble as a hobbit. That is why a hobbit had to carry the ring. They can resist it because they only want to garden and pound hobbitussy. Power and authority don't matter to them. You think he expected midgets to make it past the horrifying monster spider? That they could sneak through gorgoroth without being caught? At the last moments, he thought Aragorn had the ring. He though Aragorn marched on the black gate because he was wienery from ring power.
He wasn't responsible for them. Orcs were made by Morgoth. Morgoth wanted to destroy shit. He wanted to corrupt and break Illuvitar's works.
Sauron was a follower of morgoth and his chief lieutenant. Orcs were followers of darkness and enemies of the light/westerness and were therefore willing to serve and follow Sauron when Morgoth was gone. Many men also followed Sauron and they were certainly as chaotic as the orcs.
>they were certainly not as chaotic as the orcs.
for someone who dislikes chaos his underlings acted pretty chaotic.
they had their niche
He was ironically a communist materialist who wanted to destroy nature and beauty
The Soviet Union saw him as the good guy
What did he eat?
tolkien hinted at there being giant fields of grain to east of mordor
There is no way in hell the Humans back in the days manages to lay siege to that place and actually won.
It did not exist back then. Barad Dur is quite recent and was designed by Sauron himself. Also, it was not a gigantic 1.5 thousand-meter tower in the books.
It's size doesn't help when the besiegers can just starve you out.
Sauron likely realised this has a sallied out and met elves and men on the field of battle where his large number of orcs actually mattered
The battle lasted seven years. It would make a great movie.
They should have sanction him and written a strong condemnation letter then work for an appeasement to stop his conquests desire
You have 3 thermonuclear weapons of this size.
On which parts of Middle Earth do you drop them?
Moria, Misty Mountain, and whatever place dwarves are found
The Shire, Hobbiton, and Bag End
imagine thinking that’s real.
The Shire
Edoras
Minas Tirith
Then, at last, we would be free.
What if Sauron was a girl? And a smug brat?
As a maiar, he always has the ability to change his appearance at will. He just likes a male form more.
XD I get it! you want to SEX sauron!
>Oh bollocks, Mr. Frodo...
>Mt. Doom apparently only does guided tours!
He can't hear. He has no ears. That's why he has to send The Mouth to speak for him cause he has no mouth.
Stop what exactly? I don't even remember what the hell he was doing that was supposed to be so bad.
Simple conquest, really. It is completely normal for most fantasy settings, but Middle Earth is actually quite a peaceful place most of the time.
He was corrupted.
You can’t stop progress
why is he thinking about a truck stop in pennsylvania?
THAS PROGRESS
GOD BLESS AMERICA
GREATEST COUNTRY ON EARF
The obsession with Breezewood is baffling. It's literally a truck stop in the middle of 50 miles of farms, unincorporated forests, and state designated hunting grounds in Pennsylvania.
That’s nice, mutt
just pajeets being ignorant
that sounds comfy
>Truck stop? Noooo the truck doesn't stop here. Breezewood is simply another path, one that we all must take. The gray curtain of asphalt and billboards rolls back, and all turns to silver glass. And then you see it.
>See what?
>50 miles of farms. And beyond? Unincorporated forests and state designated hunting grounds, beneath a swift sunrise.
>That's not so bad.
>No...no it isn't.
> why is he thinking about a truck stop in pennsylvania?
Because a soulless concrete jungle is what Sauron ultimately wants.
why didn't they ask israel to stop bombing gaza?
You gotta understand sauron was representative of heterosexual oppressing gays. He was secretly gay but repressing it. Look at all the israeliteelry he made and his shoes. Dude was a queer. Hahaha gay
Hobbits have Clocks, Plumbing, Mills, Looms, Blown Glass, Umbrellas, Tobacco, Coffee, a legal system, a postal service, matches, fireworks
Elves invented medicine, seafaring boats, circumnavigation, magical smithing and artifacts
Dwarves invented unbreakable materials, had the best quality smithing weapons and armor in the world, built the most by far, hollowed out entire mountains
Humans invented the best fortresses like Minas Tirith, flying machines, siege weapons, ironclad ships
All Sauron ever did was poorly equip his legion of mass produced morons with the shoddiest and lowest quality crude weapons in the entire world. He never stood for science, he stood for a generically evil guy whose passions were torture, torture dungeons, torture gimp suits, and mass produced torture gimps he breeds by torturing elves
He stands for industrialisation which tolkien was obviously salty about. There’s no real cope around that, he didn’t like it
Not in the original three books he didn’t. He stood for a generic cardboard conqueror burning down carthage and salting fields, he never built or industrialised anything.
Despite appearances and unsophisticated opinions (like yours), generic evil conquerors are rare in fantasy. There is always deeper motivation hiding behind hordes of orcs, trollocs or shanka. You just need to read the books to understand it.
Go read Tolkeins thoughts on allegory in his intro to fellowship, then come back
I don't care for his opinion; I care for what he actually wrote. Completely unintentional on his part, LotR is extremely allegorical to our world.
Brah did you skip over the entire Isengard part or what?
I wouldn't have ask him anything. I would have listened to him. And that's what no one did
why didn't they just stop the fighting and tried a diplomatic solution?
The guy who made him literally commanded him to knock it off. Didn't work.
why didn't they just make a deal with him?
like ok, you can have the gondor oblasts and it's all cool again.
because he has no ears
I like to pretend the industrial revolution bit from the 2012 olympics opening ceremony was really just about the destruction of the shire and kenneth brenner was playing sauron
Why is he a giant floating eye instead of a person?
What power does the ring even grant people? Nobody seems to do much with it in the films.
Instead of asking I would have listened, and that's what no one else did
He'd have said "Sure", waited fifty years, then did it again.
Just apply economic sanctions on the Easterlings. They will be forced to abandon their military treaties.
He was kind of like the Emperor of Mankind.
He's all big promises and power but he's actually evil.
Horus is like Vigo mortenson, the secret disgraced good guy.
The emperor wants order and to rule mankind
Horus wants mankind to have free will which means chaos
Same thing with lotr
I'm gonna go take a leak on the base of barad dur!
it is like the evil that men do but condensated in a single entity
a general that lead an army but got defeated but his evil still lingers
you can't deal with this with an embassy