>but I would like it if the female characters like in Bluey, had more sexual differences.
Australians aren’t capable at making good animation, let alone character designs. Even Peppa Pig had more noticeable gender differences than Bluey does.
What caused trannies in the first place was the feminist argument that ‘men’ and ‘women’ as categories are social constructs and therefore men and women would be the same if we stopped forcing people to ‘act their gender’
It’s the reason why so many ‘feminists’ don’t push back on ‘women’ in boxing beating the shit out of actual women. Because if they did, they’d have to admit the argument is wrong
You honestly don't know what you're talking about. Look up what a "TERF" is. The people who say things like that are anti-trans.
1 week ago
Anonymous
The notable existence of a smaller subcategory of feminists who aren’t down with trans people intruding on female spaces proves my point tho. If feminists writ large didn’t have tolerance for trans people, the category wouldn’t exist because every feminist would be a ‘TERF’
I also made reference to it when I specified >so many
instead of implying no feminists push back on men in their sports
1 week ago
Anonymous
How does it prove your point if the subcategory you're referring to also says troids aren't valid?
Trannies are obsessed with gender. They're so obsessed that they invent new categories of it, most notably "gender identity". You'll never catch them saying none of it is real and people should stop caring about it, they're diametrically opposed to that notion.
1 week ago
Anonymous
>You'll never catch them saying none of it is real and people should stop caring about it, they're diametrically opposed to that notion.
They are not diametrically opposed to it. Their whole argument hinges on the exact same argument, anon. If sex/gender is real, a transsexual is not possible. It doesn’t matter what you identify as, you are what you are.
Their whole argument is >sex/gender isn’t real/is socially constructed >so why shouldn’t I be able to identify as the opposite sex/gender?
The first is a feminist idea
The second is a natural follow-up
1 week ago
Anonymous
Wrong. Trannies say their gender identity (brain gender) is that of the opposite sex. Trannies look at tomboys/tomgirls and say "umm, actually, you're an egg and should join us in chuddom". Without "gender identity", trannies aren't valid.
1 week ago
Anonymous
Trannies cannot formulate a coherent, non-circular definition of what either sex even is, anon. The brain chemistry argument is just another pseudo-science idea put forth to equivocate on the matter.
Their argument boils down to what I spelled out before. Where you are getting mixed up is that both feminists and transsexuals will agree that ‘gender’ doesn’t matter. What transsexuals ‘make a big deal’ about is gender IDENTITY. They only like to drop the ‘identity’ portion of the term to make it implied when pressed on the fact that to even make a distinction (ie a man versus a TRANS man) is to give up the game that there is even a hardline, unchangeable difference to begin with
1 week ago
Anonymous
Transgenders are the ones who shit themselves if you get their pronouns wrong, and advocate for saying/writing "he/him" and "she/her" everywhere. They definitely don't believe "gender doesn't matter". I don't know where you got that idea from.
1 week ago
Anonymous
Anon, I don’t know how much plainer I can make it
Trannies do not care about what sex/gender/pick a word they are born as. So we can stop arguing in circles, I will hereafter refer to it as >whether you were born with a dick or not
That is the point they align with the feminists on which is exactly the feminist message to begin with: it doesn’t matter if you have a dick or not, humans are the same. Transexuals only care about what a person identifies as which is the logical next step
1 week ago
Anonymous
>Trannies do not care about what sex/gender/pick a word they are born as.
They care so much that they hate it and want to surgically alter their genitals to resemble the opposite sex's. Whoever you're thinking of, it doesn't sound like trannies. People who don't care about sex/gender don't have those kinds of issues.
1 week ago
Anonymous
I’m gonna go ahead and assume you aren’t stupid and are just arguing in bad faith, purposefully misunderstanding the point to not admit you are wrong
What caused trannies in the first place was the feminist argument that ‘men’ and ‘women’ as categories are social constructs and therefore men and women would be the same if we stopped forcing people to ‘act their gender’
It’s the reason why so many ‘feminists’ don’t push back on ‘women’ in boxing beating the shit out of actual women. Because if they did, they’d have to admit the argument is wrong
trans people have always existed because behavior is human but gender roles are a fake construct. trans people have existed in thousands of cultures all over the world since humans have existed. it is something that's always been there
People who don't conform to gender norms have always existed. People who lose their minds and want to undergo extreme genital-focused body modification are a modern occurrence.
This, if Im going to be forced to watch this crap every time my cousin come over, I at least want a cute girl dog to look at
>but I would like it if the female characters like in Bluey, had more sexual differences.
Australians aren’t capable at making good animation, let alone character designs. Even Peppa Pig had more noticeable gender differences than Bluey does.
This. Though the funny part is, in their art they demand "trans representation" but how do you draw a transwoman without giving away that they are a woman? If you just draw a woman, it's just a ciswoman. If you draw masc features you get called transphobic for presenting a parody of a transwoman.
This is why we call them insane people. They're the ones making this demand and angry with the outcomes.
That’s because dogs experience the world primarily through smell
They can smell the difference between a male or female as easily as we can see the difference between a man and a woman. But we‘re visual animals so artists make it visually obvious
>sexual dimorphism between wolves is practically nonexistent.
*ahem* >Fifteen parameters differed significantly by sex. Males were usually larger than females; however, the degree of sexual dimorphism varied with structure. Male skeletal parameters ranged between 3 and 6% greater than those of females, and significant differences were largely associated with the anterior body region and the limbs. Male body mass was 18% and male visceral parameters ranged between 12 and 24% heavier than those of females. Patterns of adipose deposition were also significantly different. Sternum and inguinal fat depths and total external and mesentery fat indices were significantly greater in males (5–44%), while rump fat depth was significantly greater in females (1%).
Your just not that familiar with wolves. It's like how people who don't see enough East asians can't tell the difference in gender.
The only people who don't like sexual dimorphism in animation are transgenders and ugly people. Most ugly people don't fit their assigned gender standard and so resent anything that resembles dimorphism and gold standards in secondary sexual features.
If someone thinks it's weird to try to make anthropomorphic animals sexy and feminine or manly, that doesn't mean they're a chud, it means they're not a furry.
>If someone thinks it's weird to try to make anthropomorphic animals sexy and feminine or manly, that doesn't mean they're a chud, it means they're not a furry.
The majority of millennials and zoomers are sexually repressed losers. I think the media should start having more attractive chicks to fix that. Sadly femoids just have really shit taste and get upset over cartoon women being eyecandy and not hideous like they are.
Sorry men would rather fuck a supermodel over Bertha from the ghetto or Maggie the tralier trash hick who weighs 400 pounds
People ITT can rent free about trannies all they want, but I know for a fact complaints about this shit came way, way earlier, from actual women
Now I can't for the life of me know why women are upsetti spaghetti over this, but I've noticed they generally tend to hate the notion of beautiful women in media, so maybe that upsets them on the same level
>but I know for a fact complaints about this shit came way, way earlier, from actual women
That's why I support transfemale athletes. Your fierce little Khalessi lost her scholarship/championship to a boy in a dress fair and square.
unironically yes, but also mainly because i do got give a single green shit of a fuck about corporate sports
now, make an olympic competition where EVERYONE can compete - men, women, little kids, grandmas, dogs, some drunk hobo off the street, people doped up on steroids.... just to reeeally test the human capabilities
THAT i would watch. otherwise? fuck off coca cola
Circumcision is the mark of civilization. It originated in the cradle of civilization, Mesopotamia, the Levant, and the coasts of the Red and Mediterranean Seas. That the Germanic savages are so afraid of it to think that it is an attack on their masculinity is a clear sign of their diminished intelligence and low IQ.
1 week ago
Anonymous
Greeks and Romans thought circumcision is repulsive mutilation of the body as well
1 week ago
Anonymous
Greeks were the runt of the litter, the weird child of the bunch. Romans were psychotic savages pretending to be civilized.
1 week ago
Anonymous
What about the others?
1 week ago
Anonymous
Yeah those baal worshippers were onto something
1 week ago
Anonymous
The Punic Wars and its consequence have been a disaster for the human race.
WARNING SCHIZO POST!
The bullshit reason is that it's unrealistic, this is mostly cope because they don't wanna address the actual reason they have such a gut reaction to art like this.
The actual reason is that the vast majority of women absolutely hate being sexually objectified, and most of the women who complain about pic related are western far left types, who see any representation of female sexual dimorphism in art as sexual objectification.
These types of women generally hate femininity because they believe femininity itself is a social construct forced upon them by the patriarchy or tradition, and sadly a lot of them we're also sexually abused my men, so often they have negative gut reactions to any sexual depiction of a woman... even if the depiction isn't anyway sexual like pic related.
A lot of women in today's world hate men, that's because men and women no longer work together, and as such are driven apart
They hate the notion of men having a good time, they hate seeing them have fun, it absolutely boils their piss to watch a man look at something and go "yeah, I enjoy this greatly, this pleasures my mind and my eyeballs as well as my cock." It angers them. That's why whenever they see an attractive female character, even if it's a straight up dog or something, they still perceive it through the lense of "could, a man, potentially find joy in this"
If so? NUKE IT! NUKE IT OFF THE FACE OF THE PLANET!
That's why they're so intent on making ugly, ugly, so very ugly art
>The actual reason is that the vast majority of women absolutely hate being sexually objectified
Does the phrase "The lady doth protest too much" mean anything to you?
The main reason women whine about being sexually objectified is because it makes other women seethe with jealousy, and they will go to extreme lengths to hide how petty and manipulative they really are.
Why are you guys seething about trannies rent free, real animals dont look like that. If an artstyle is heavily stylized then yeah it makes sense but why does nearly every show involving animals have to appeal to furgays
We’re always told Representation matters for minorities, woman, and the alphabet rainbow. Suddenly you what a good male Representation and we’re told to chill out? Well if it matters and men are always ugly, stupid, and or evil. Suddenly it’s just a cartoon and we should relax.
Because sexual dimorphism and gender norms bad (also if you like cute things as a boy you should cut off your penis and dress like a girl and if you like tough crude things as a girl cut off your tits and pretend to be a boy because there is no defying gender norms)
>female wolves are smaller, with less fur and a less pronounced head and shoulders
They really are not different on the outside at all beyond these three traits and their genitals
Without the context of this thread those could be easily mistaken for an old and young wolf, you wouldnt be able to tell that they were male and female
Yeah, because they're standing right next to each other.
How is that more dimorphism than humans? You wouldn't be able to tell their genders if they weren't standing next to each other. Meanwhile you can identify if a human is male or female just at a glance.
Please don't project your ignorance and stupidity onto others. Anyone who has a spent a minute learning about wolves can tell an average male from an average female. Only those who want to push a demented agenda spew bullshit like yours.
>female wolf, left, and male wolf roam the tundra near The Meadowbank Gold Mine in Nunavut. Photo by NATHAN DENETTE/The Canadian Press/File
You lying chud.
1 week ago
Anonymous
are you retarded you can clearly see the head looking proportionally smaller on the female along with shorter ears
Your inability to notice differences is a skill issue
How is that more dimorphism than humans? You wouldn't be able to tell their genders if they weren't standing next to each other. Meanwhile you can identify if a human is male or female just at a glance.
1 week ago
Anonymous
>Meanwhile you can identify if a human is male or female just at a glance.
Probably because we're all human and have lived around humans our entire lives.
If you lived as part of a wolf pack your entire life you'd probably be able to tell at a glance too.
>muh agenda
Rent free lmfao, wolves just do not have as much sexual dimorphism as humans
female mammals are generally smaller, dumbfuck. there is dimorphism and furthermore there are alphas and leaders of packs. you don't have to ask a zoologist, you don't even have to watch a wildlife documentary, you can literally watch fucking cesar milan dog whisperer and he breaks down how dogs respond to leadership and alpha because it's basic shit that's obvious
>and furthermore there are alphas and leaders of packs
It's an outdated meme the guy even who proposed it has long since rejected. In the wild wolf packs are simply families made up of two parents and their kids who leave to start their own packs once they grow up
" Each is ruled by an ‘alpha’ male and female pair, with the female occupying the top slot. This alpha female chooses where her pack will build their den, and excavates it with help from her pack."
https://www.painteddog.org/about-painted-dogs
"Every hyena clan is a matriarchy ruled by an alpha female. In the clan’s strict power structure, dominance passes down the alpha female’s line to her cubs. "
https://ideas.ted.com/everything-you-know-about-hyenas-is-wrong-these-animals-are-fierce-social-and-incredibly-smart/
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dominance_hierarchy
"Hierarchy in horses appears to be linear (with occasional triangular relationships) and not necessarily based on age, weight, height, gender, or time in the group. "
"The highest-ranking stallion in a band does most of the breeding, because it is the first to secure access to a receptive female and the first to displace a female from another band."
https://www.merckvetmanual.com/behavior/normal-social-behavior-and-behavioral-problems-of-domestic-animals/social-behavior-of-horses
and of course, primates are notorious for social hierarchies based on alpha males having harems
>fucking EXPERT notices and picks out dog with strongest personality and corrects them >other dogs fall in line >EXPERT pairs older calm dog's influence on another younger, excitable dog
if you watch many of these episodes, women are the ones that don't exert leadership
"Social hierarchies are evident when deer congregate in herds, with rank determined by sex, age, and size. The largest males are dominant, followed in rank by adult females. Yearlings and fawns are subordinate to all others."
https://www.esf.edu/aec/adks/mammals/wtd.php
"Wolf 40 was so aggressive toward other females that they formed an alliance and killed her. Her more cooperative sister 42 then took over the leadership position."
"Social hierarchies are evident when deer congregate in herds, with rank determined by sex, age, and size. The largest males are dominant, followed in rank by adult females. Yearlings and fawns are subordinate to all others."
https://www.esf.edu/aec/adks/mammals/wtd.php
>fucking EXPERT notices and picks out dog with strongest personality and corrects them >other dogs fall in line >EXPERT pairs older calm dog's influence on another younger, excitable dog
if you watch many of these episodes, women are the ones that don't exert leadership
you can go back and read scholarly articles about wolves. the use of alpha as a term is everywhere for a reason.
https://cdnsciencepub.com/doi/abs/10.1139/z01-223
Wolves only organize themselves like this in captivity. It's not a model that exists in nature.
1 week ago
Anonymous
>the actual social hierarchy behavior in yellowstone is the same as captivity >ignores how other canines like painted dogs exhibit this behavior around the world
cope
1 week ago
Anonymous
If you ever run into someone who pushes the discredited "alpha wolf" research, it's probably a furry.
1 week ago
Anonymous
Nah, usually some dudebro trying to spout nonsense to probably-gay losers.
>trannies: stop showing sexual dimorphism in cis characters >also trannies: I NEED TO LOOK LIKE THE MOST STEREOTYPICAL STEPFORD WIFE OR HOW AM I GOING TO LOOK LIKE A WOMAN
The worst part is that people like him used to be mocked back in the day and now they're in the industry
The overall design is fine enough but honestly being pink at that point is just beating people over the head with the assumption that you are too stupid to tell its female without it being that obvious.
> Its overused and lazy. The artists should get more creative in how they show the masculinity or feminity of their characters.
Imma be real with you anon, I don’t want genderless blobs that shit like Bluey have. All cartoon women who aren’t children should have big breasts and thighs
>Furry threads were bait too, don't even pretend.
They came from actual cartoons that existed and people grew up with. Twitter screencap threads didn’t. Neither did Guy/Birchy bitching as well.
And don’t pretend there still isn’t coomer shit threads. /toon/ likes to obsess over children doing lewd shit, but suddenly furry chicks are bad? I’d argue e-boifags are far worse than a guy simply jacking it to Krystal from Star Fox. Because at least she’s an adult.
1 week ago
Anonymous
>suddenly furry chicks are bad
They always were. The fact that furfags drooled over them didn't make them good.
1 week ago
Anonymous
>They always were. The fact that furfags drooled over them didn't make them good.
I can excuse porn of children, but I draw the line at busty fluffy chicks!
1 week ago
Anonymous
lmfao nobody's arguing for kiddie porn here jackass nice deflection attempt get your dick outta your dog for a second before you post next time.
1 week ago
Anonymous
>being so mindraped by furries that you can't enjoy hot tribal fox chicks.
Sad.
1 week ago
Anonymous
/toon/ likes to pretend it’s 2005 where being a pedophile and hating furries is still cool. Yet they won’t even dare say the dreaded “n word” because they also hate 4chan just as much.
1 week ago
Anonymous
Damn, man...you stumbled into an anthrocon being held at a hotel you were at and got pulled into a back room, didn't you?
1 week ago
Anonymous
Furry chicks are bad, gay
1 week ago
Anonymous
>Furry chicks are bad, gay
The main architects of anti-furry culture, SomethingAwful ended with half of their site becoming trannies and Lowtax putting a 12 gauge shotgun into his mouth. The furchads had their last laugh
1 week ago
Anonymous
You will never fuck an anthropomorphic chick
1 week ago
Anonymous
Give it time. I predict the first moreaus will be humanized lab pigs, mice and rats.
I agree, it should be more cartoon/media specific in discussion.
Otherwise these
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Wolves only organize themselves like this in captivity. It's not a model that exists in nature.
>the actual social hierarchy behavior in yellowstone is the same as captivity >ignores how other canines like painted dogs exhibit this behavior around the world
Tbf I think that's just reflective of the overall exaggerated design.
The Chad buck has a small face too. Still looks unsettling though.
I hate when ugly bastards get with a 'hot' girl
(t a)
I do think that allot of the time female characters can be designed very blandly and lack soul. You can have dimorphism and still be soulful. The bear lady in open season looks so uncanny to me, I hate it. She would of looked better with exaggerated features.
>people who don't see enough East asians can't tell the difference in gender.
What?
I've heard allot of people say they sometimes can't tell the gender of East asians if they are wearing non binary cloths ie they see an asian women with short hair and think she's a boy, or that thai ladyboys pass much better then white or black transdgenders.
It's a similar phenomenon where many white people mistake a black woman in a tracksuit for for a man.
>I've heard allot of people say they sometimes can't tell the gender of East asians if they are wearing non binary cloths. >non binary cloths
It's called unisex clothing
To clarify, I ment that without other indicators like gender specific hair or clothing, people recognise gender of other races with less accuracy then they would their own race.
https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/10.1068/p250669 .
Its called own-race effect. I've heard both black and white people call asian men feminine looking, and I've heard asian men call black and white women very masculine looking. I've heard people of all races say they think X all look the same, especially if they don't have a diverse friendship group.
>Asian men are objectively more feminine
I'm still able to tell the difference between a female fairy and a male fiary >Black women are objectively more masculine
I can still tell the difference between a female orc and a male orc.
If you familiarise yourself with a certain race more then it's easier to differentiate the genders
To clarify, I ment that without other indicators like gender specific hair or clothing, people recognise gender of other races with less accuracy then they would their own race.
https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/10.1068/p250669 .
Its called own-race effect. I've heard both black and white people call asian men feminine looking, and I've heard asian men call black and white women very masculine looking. I've heard people of all races say they think X all look the same, especially if they don't have a diverse friendship group.
both Caucasians and Asians were less accurate when discerning the gender of faces belongings to the oposite race.
"Caucasian observers discriminated male and female Caucasian faces more accurately/efficiently than did Oriental(1) observers, and Oriental observers discriminated male and female Japanese faces more accurately/efficiently than did Caucasian observers. This result indicates that, under suboptimal viewing conditions, the identification of even the most salient of facial characteristics—face sex—is impaired for other-race faces. "
Females are smaller but they don't have teeny tiny snouts like female animals in cartoons, the worst is when they're given nearly human-like faces
I agree that there's no creativity with a character like in your pic and I think they look uncanny. Even the male dog looks like a wierd gromit with a mouth. Disgusting.
But i think you can have dimorphism and still have soul like in this pic of Kung fu panda
(t a)
I do think that allot of the time female characters can be designed very blandly and lack soul. You can have dimorphism and still be soulful. The bear lady in open season looks so uncanny to me, I hate it. She would of looked better with exaggerated features.
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I've heard allot of people say they sometimes can't tell the gender of East asians if they are wearing non binary cloths ie they see an asian women with short hair and think she's a boy, or that thai ladyboys pass much better then white or black transdgenders.
It's a similar phenomenon where many white people mistake a black woman in a tracksuit for for a man.
It'd easy visual shorthand but they stick to the spec for this shorthand so much that it makes designs predictable. Also, animals aren't people, and you give up a lot of interesting design possibilities by trying to shoehorn in freshman level anthropomorphism for literally everything. If you needed to translate characters to human analogs so goddamn bad just use human characters.
Because people will complain about anything and love to try to bitch about shit in a way that makes themselves look clever.
Humans are visual animals. We couldn’t smell the differences in the sexes like a wolf would even if our movies/cartoons had an olfactory component to them so of course we play up the visual sexual dimorphism in cartoons
it's not a fucking cliche it's the most basic rules of character design and good character design should tell you everything you need to know about a character from just a look
The OP's pic is complaining about all sexual dimorphism, not just guys with big noses.
1 week ago
Anonymous
No it's not? It's complaining about a specific art cliche. You see it a lot in furry art.
1 week ago
Anonymous
I have never once seen it in furry art. Making dudes goofy and ugly does not sound like something furries would want to do. It is present in some animated movies.
I really doubt there is a good faith motivation to whine about it other than hating sexual dimorphism because reality annoys insane people.
1 week ago
Anonymous
99% of furry art does it because they can't stop ripping off Don Bluth.
>Muh zoophiles
Nobody likes the human trannies from superman either, or the ugly bastard from molly mcgee, or oompa loompa april, or the entire cast of strange world
It's almost as if people don't want to see ugly people on-screen, stop thinking about porn
>furries who are mad at this are straight up zoophiles and animal rapists
The zoophiles have good taste because the majority of cartoon women /toon/ fawns over are hideous. I can see the attractive towards characters like Krystal or Renamon. I don’t see it with shit like Timmy Turner’s principal or the fat bitch who’s the mom of Molly Mcgee
>Because I hate furries. Whine about trannies all you want but you'll still yiff in hell.
/toon/ was the furry board before /trash/ came along. There were a bazillion threads about Callie Briggs and Gadget Hackwrench until Hiro fired all of the good mods and replaced them with jannies who hate cartoons and leave up pointless slide threads.
That sounds like someone fucking his dog would say to distract someone from the fact that he's got his dick in his dog. Pretty suHispanicious if you ask me. Why are you so mad that they want to take away the sexy dogs, anon?
Resorting to calling someone a kidfucker and spamming wojacks is the modern equivalent of just calling someone hitler because you ran out of better insults. You have no argument to make about why dog cartoons should be sexy.
>You have no argument to make about why dog cartoons should be sexy.
Because sexiness is good character design, brimstone like garden gnomeey isn’t. Big boobs and thighs keeps the chuds and females who join bandwagons away
Not if they're fucking dogs jackass. This isn't an either or problem you can address both. There isn't some switch somewhere that someone has to press that either makes people trans or furry. They can both be bad, you're the only one here arguing otherwise.
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The limitations that breed creativity in question:
They're saying they think it should be more like the Balto cartoon or something like that. It did a good job, you can tell which wolves are male and which are female, but it's subtle and they still look like the same kind of creature. There's a middle ground between agender amorphous blobs and the caricaturesque style referenced in the OP.
Because the endpoint of this type of dimorphism is uncanny bullshit where the woman looks like a human, or way more so than the male and its jarring as fuck and in most cases becomes a much worse and creatively stagnant design that doesn't have to work within the limitations that breed creativity.
Because the endpoint of this type of dimorphism is uncanny bullshit where the woman looks like a human, or way more so than the male and its jarring as fuck and in most cases becomes a much worse and creatively stagnant design that doesn't have to work within the limitations that breed creativity.
The limitations that breed creativity in question:
Counterpoint. The expression of feminity in non-humans doesn't have to be much more than eyelashes and/or eyeshadow. And in this case being a near humanoid, she doesn't even have human-like breasts. Yet she has endured while many others going down the easy route are forgotten.
Whenever these kind of threads come up, there's always people jumping to its defense citing realistic sexual dimorphism as the reason why this is good yet at the same time these same people most likely will throw a huge fit at any semblance of non-human or non-mammal based dimorphism and argue it doesn't matter because. Like how dumbfucks constantly make female peacocks that look exactly like a male.
>why do females look the same in all species >why dont human males look like anything
Because most of this shit is designed with a male audience in mind so they focus more on the female characters. Id say the reverse is true but fujoshis and twilight fangirls are creatively sterile
I don't know where you've been looking. Tons of girl furries out there. They tend to do a lot of gay art, but the ones that don't are pretty damn skilled.
One thing I noticed about a lot of female furry artists: depression issues and meds. Probably due to slooting with fans at cons for the last 15 years, then realizing they're nearly "gray-muzzles", are land-whales, and haven't secured a husband.
1 week ago
Anonymous
That's sad. Furry artist girls seem like they should be cool gf's or even friends to hang out with on paper but I guess when you're surrounded by hell you're bound to get a little messed up by it.
1 week ago
Anonymous
>One thing I noticed about a lot of female furry artists: depression issues and meds
To be honest, I’m not so sure that isn’t just because artists are a neurotic bunch to begin with, furry or not, male or female.
1 week ago
Anonymous
i hate women so much it's unreal
if they don't like it they can just leave
They're out there. There is a few Homer in the Lesbian bar meme's out there made by female furries when they go to a con because most male furries are trans, gay or are such social idiots they avoid. It's one of my minor fit goals to one of these things and mog 75% of the people there.
Normies share this because they're like "Haha that's true." but ultimately don't really care.
Terminally online people share it because any orthodox portrayal of gender and sexuality sends them into meltdown.
after several hundreds of movies with this,it gets tiresome
I guess, but I would like it if the female characters like in Bluey, had more sexual differences.
>but I would like it if the female characters like in Bluey, had more sexual differences.
Australians aren’t capable at making good animation, let alone character designs. Even Peppa Pig had more noticeable gender differences than Bluey does.
>Bluey
shut the fuck up mantoddler
Wow, you seem angry, did that 'mantoddler' screw your mom or something?
Anon my children watch the show
what else do you expect from those chud cocks suckers cucks?
Anon, society obsessing over gender like this is what caused trannies in the first place.
What caused trannies in the first place was the feminist argument that ‘men’ and ‘women’ as categories are social constructs and therefore men and women would be the same if we stopped forcing people to ‘act their gender’
It’s the reason why so many ‘feminists’ don’t push back on ‘women’ in boxing beating the shit out of actual women. Because if they did, they’d have to admit the argument is wrong
You honestly don't know what you're talking about. Look up what a "TERF" is. The people who say things like that are anti-trans.
The notable existence of a smaller subcategory of feminists who aren’t down with trans people intruding on female spaces proves my point tho. If feminists writ large didn’t have tolerance for trans people, the category wouldn’t exist because every feminist would be a ‘TERF’
I also made reference to it when I specified
>so many
instead of implying no feminists push back on men in their sports
How does it prove your point if the subcategory you're referring to also says troids aren't valid?
Trannies are obsessed with gender. They're so obsessed that they invent new categories of it, most notably "gender identity". You'll never catch them saying none of it is real and people should stop caring about it, they're diametrically opposed to that notion.
>You'll never catch them saying none of it is real and people should stop caring about it, they're diametrically opposed to that notion.
They are not diametrically opposed to it. Their whole argument hinges on the exact same argument, anon. If sex/gender is real, a transsexual is not possible. It doesn’t matter what you identify as, you are what you are.
Their whole argument is
>sex/gender isn’t real/is socially constructed
>so why shouldn’t I be able to identify as the opposite sex/gender?
The first is a feminist idea
The second is a natural follow-up
Wrong. Trannies say their gender identity (brain gender) is that of the opposite sex. Trannies look at tomboys/tomgirls and say "umm, actually, you're an egg and should join us in chuddom". Without "gender identity", trannies aren't valid.
Trannies cannot formulate a coherent, non-circular definition of what either sex even is, anon. The brain chemistry argument is just another pseudo-science idea put forth to equivocate on the matter.
Their argument boils down to what I spelled out before. Where you are getting mixed up is that both feminists and transsexuals will agree that ‘gender’ doesn’t matter. What transsexuals ‘make a big deal’ about is gender IDENTITY. They only like to drop the ‘identity’ portion of the term to make it implied when pressed on the fact that to even make a distinction (ie a man versus a TRANS man) is to give up the game that there is even a hardline, unchangeable difference to begin with
Transgenders are the ones who shit themselves if you get their pronouns wrong, and advocate for saying/writing "he/him" and "she/her" everywhere. They definitely don't believe "gender doesn't matter". I don't know where you got that idea from.
Anon, I don’t know how much plainer I can make it
Trannies do not care about what sex/gender/pick a word they are born as. So we can stop arguing in circles, I will hereafter refer to it as
>whether you were born with a dick or not
That is the point they align with the feminists on which is exactly the feminist message to begin with: it doesn’t matter if you have a dick or not, humans are the same. Transexuals only care about what a person identifies as which is the logical next step
>Trannies do not care about what sex/gender/pick a word they are born as.
They care so much that they hate it and want to surgically alter their genitals to resemble the opposite sex's. Whoever you're thinking of, it doesn't sound like trannies. People who don't care about sex/gender don't have those kinds of issues.
I’m gonna go ahead and assume you aren’t stupid and are just arguing in bad faith, purposefully misunderstanding the point to not admit you are wrong
This. College teachers spelled it for me verbatim feminism was about treating men and women the same. So I will always support transfemale athletes.
trans people have always existed because behavior is human but gender roles are a fake construct. trans people have existed in thousands of cultures all over the world since humans have existed. it is something that's always been there
People who don't conform to gender norms have always existed. People who lose their minds and want to undergo extreme genital-focused body modification are a modern occurrence.
Bluey should've been a boy
It was a show originally planned to be called Rusty and be about, you guess it, Rusty.
This, if Im going to be forced to watch this crap every time my cousin come over, I at least want a cute girl dog to look at
They can put out some good stuff, pic related
Sexual dimorphism infuriates trannies, next question.
Also Lilly > Kate.
This. Though the funny part is, in their art they demand "trans representation" but how do you draw a transwoman without giving away that they are a woman? If you just draw a woman, it's just a ciswoman. If you draw masc features you get called transphobic for presenting a parody of a transwoman.
This is why we call them insane people. They're the ones making this demand and angry with the outcomes.
Trannies have a million dog whistles so they'd be fine with you drawing any of those in as proof
Onward did it best. You KNEW that thing was trans.
Dogs don't have sexual dimorphism. Designs like that only exists to pander to furgays
That’s because dogs experience the world primarily through smell
They can smell the difference between a male or female as easily as we can see the difference between a man and a woman. But we‘re visual animals so artists make it visually obvious
>two posts in
>shits on trans people for no good reason
spwp, touch grass
Shut the fuck up, chud!
nah he has a good point, especially considering the type of environment that produces modern western animation (CA)
We want more hot guys
Poasting in a low effort thread.
Because it’s accurate to reality, that’s why most if not all MTF trannies look like Fred Flintstone in drag.
no it isn't, you retard. sexual dimorphism between wolves is practically nonexistent. exceptions are things like lions or most species of bird
>sexual dimorphism between wolves is practically nonexistent.
*ahem*
>Fifteen parameters differed significantly by sex. Males were usually larger than females; however, the degree of sexual dimorphism varied with structure. Male skeletal parameters ranged between 3 and 6% greater than those of females, and significant differences were largely associated with the anterior body region and the limbs. Male body mass was 18% and male visceral parameters ranged between 12 and 24% heavier than those of females. Patterns of adipose deposition were also significantly different. Sternum and inguinal fat depths and total external and mesentery fat indices were significantly greater in males (5–44%), while rump fat depth was significantly greater in females (1%).
>rump fat depth was significantly greater in females (1%).
T H I C C
It's still very low compared to humans.
Yes, but it's dumb to complain when people exaggerate noticeable traits, and dumber to pretend they don't exist at all.
>rump fat
Not the furry but my dick is getting hard.
1%
>significant
literally within the margin of error
Why you lying? there's clearly a difference.
Your just not that familiar with wolves. It's like how people who don't see enough East asians can't tell the difference in gender.
The only people who don't like sexual dimorphism in animation are transgenders and ugly people. Most ugly people don't fit their assigned gender standard and so resent anything that resembles dimorphism and gold standards in secondary sexual features.
>people who don't see enough East asians can't tell the difference in gender.
What?
you've never seen people bitching that K-pop twinks look like girls
Females are smaller but they don't have teeny tiny snouts like female animals in cartoons, the worst is when they're given nearly human-like faces
Die chud
If someone thinks it's weird to try to make anthropomorphic animals sexy and feminine or manly, that doesn't mean they're a chud, it means they're not a furry.
>If someone thinks it's weird to try to make anthropomorphic animals sexy and feminine or manly, that doesn't mean they're a chud, it means they're not a furry.
The majority of millennials and zoomers are sexually repressed losers. I think the media should start having more attractive chicks to fix that. Sadly femoids just have really shit taste and get upset over cartoon women being eyecandy and not hideous like they are.
Sorry men would rather fuck a supermodel over Bertha from the ghetto or Maggie the tralier trash hick who weighs 400 pounds
People ITT can rent free about trannies all they want, but I know for a fact complaints about this shit came way, way earlier, from actual women
Now I can't for the life of me know why women are upsetti spaghetti over this, but I've noticed they generally tend to hate the notion of beautiful women in media, so maybe that upsets them on the same level
>but I know for a fact complaints about this shit came way, way earlier, from actual women
That's why I support transfemale athletes. Your fierce little Khalessi lost her scholarship/championship to a boy in a dress fair and square.
unironically yes, but also mainly because i do got give a single green shit of a fuck about corporate sports
now, make an olympic competition where EVERYONE can compete - men, women, little kids, grandmas, dogs, some drunk hobo off the street, people doped up on steroids.... just to reeeally test the human capabilities
THAT i would watch. otherwise? fuck off coca cola
women are chud enablers
trannies hate gender dimorphism.
reminder that all circumcised people are trannies
Cool it with the anti-semitic remarks
Now let's see 4chan-Aryan's cope.
>cope
nta, but garden gnomes literally are responsible for circumcision
where's the cope?
Circumcision is the mark of civilization. It originated in the cradle of civilization, Mesopotamia, the Levant, and the coasts of the Red and Mediterranean Seas. That the Germanic savages are so afraid of it to think that it is an attack on their masculinity is a clear sign of their diminished intelligence and low IQ.
Greeks and Romans thought circumcision is repulsive mutilation of the body as well
Greeks were the runt of the litter, the weird child of the bunch. Romans were psychotic savages pretending to be civilized.
What about the others?
Yeah those baal worshippers were onto something
The Punic Wars and its consequence have been a disaster for the human race.
other societies had circumcision as well. there was a ritual in aboriginal cultures for it
Muslims also do it
>t.from a backwards Muslim country
Most children in america get their penises circumcised as an infant Including me.
I don't disagree.
WARNING SCHIZO POST!
The bullshit reason is that it's unrealistic, this is mostly cope because they don't wanna address the actual reason they have such a gut reaction to art like this.
The actual reason is that the vast majority of women absolutely hate being sexually objectified, and most of the women who complain about pic related are western far left types, who see any representation of female sexual dimorphism in art as sexual objectification.
These types of women generally hate femininity because they believe femininity itself is a social construct forced upon them by the patriarchy or tradition, and sadly a lot of them we're also sexually abused my men, so often they have negative gut reactions to any sexual depiction of a woman... even if the depiction isn't anyway sexual like pic related.
A lot of women in today's world hate men, that's because men and women no longer work together, and as such are driven apart
They hate the notion of men having a good time, they hate seeing them have fun, it absolutely boils their piss to watch a man look at something and go "yeah, I enjoy this greatly, this pleasures my mind and my eyeballs as well as my cock." It angers them. That's why whenever they see an attractive female character, even if it's a straight up dog or something, they still perceive it through the lense of "could, a man, potentially find joy in this"
If so? NUKE IT! NUKE IT OFF THE FACE OF THE PLANET!
That's why they're so intent on making ugly, ugly, so very ugly art
The vast majority of women do not mind being objectified at all.
>The actual reason is that the vast majority of women absolutely hate being sexually objectified
Does the phrase "The lady doth protest too much" mean anything to you?
The main reason women whine about being sexually objectified is because it makes other women seethe with jealousy, and they will go to extreme lengths to hide how petty and manipulative they really are.
>people
People don't hate it. Trannies do.
Why are you guys seething about trannies rent free, real animals dont look like that. If an artstyle is heavily stylized then yeah it makes sense but why does nearly every show involving animals have to appeal to furgays
We’re always told Representation matters for minorities, woman, and the alphabet rainbow. Suddenly you what a good male Representation and we’re told to chill out? Well if it matters and men are always ugly, stupid, and or evil. Suddenly it’s just a cartoon and we should relax.
Because sexual dimorphism and gender norms bad (also if you like cute things as a boy you should cut off your penis and dress like a girl and if you like tough crude things as a girl cut off your tits and pretend to be a boy because there is no defying gender norms)
The chick is supposed to be a Bumble Bee, but Vivzie hates criticism and got angry when people “redesigned” her
she looks nothing like a bee beyond wings and being coloured yellow
what the fuck?
>The chick is supposed to be a Bumble Bee
It's not though V, It's not. If you wanted a bumble bee, then draw a damn bee! These people, holy crap.
that's more of a fennec fox and also she has an extra set of arms. she's not a wolf
I don't like when the dude looks dumb, these are more balanced
>female wolves
That's a bee you blind rerard
The people upset by this stuff are either biological women who look like potatoes or fat chuds.
They want a world where you have to ask each individual character what their gender is before anything else.
>Is that… THING I RECOGNIZE?
>NOOOOOO IT’S SHIT BECAUSE I CAN RECOGNIZE IT!
Tropetards have a mind virus.
It is realistic though, female wolves look smaller and more feminine than males. People are retarded and shouldn't be allowed on the internet
>female wolves are smaller, with less fur and a less pronounced head and shoulders
They really are not different on the outside at all beyond these three traits and their genitals
Without the context of this thread those could be easily mistaken for an old and young wolf, you wouldnt be able to tell that they were male and female
>they are really not that different
Show people a picture of a wolf's face, and they won't be able to accurately identify if it's male or female. They have lower dimorphism than humans.
You mean like
where I can perfectly tell the one on the left is the female
just by looking at it?
Yeah, because they're standing right next to each other.
Please don't project your ignorance and stupidity onto others. Anyone who has a spent a minute learning about wolves can tell an average male from an average female. Only those who want to push a demented agenda spew bullshit like yours.
>muh agenda
Rent free lmfao, wolves just do not have as much sexual dimorphism as humans
>literally denying reality
Truly mentally ill.
These two
just look like wolves of different ages
They are a female and a male, retard.
https://nationalpost.com/news/canada/cp-newsalert-wolf-missing-from-vancouver-zoo-found-safe-returned-to-pack
>female wolf, left, and male wolf roam the tundra near The Meadowbank Gold Mine in Nunavut. Photo by NATHAN DENETTE/The Canadian Press/File
You lying chud.
are you retarded you can clearly see the head looking proportionally smaller on the female along with shorter ears
Your inability to notice differences is a skill issue
wolf face blind wolf autist
How is that more dimorphism than humans? You wouldn't be able to tell their genders if they weren't standing next to each other. Meanwhile you can identify if a human is male or female just at a glance.
>Meanwhile you can identify if a human is male or female just at a glance.
Probably because we're all human and have lived around humans our entire lives.
If you lived as part of a wolf pack your entire life you'd probably be able to tell at a glance too.
female mammals are generally smaller, dumbfuck. there is dimorphism and furthermore there are alphas and leaders of packs. you don't have to ask a zoologist, you don't even have to watch a wildlife documentary, you can literally watch fucking cesar milan dog whisperer and he breaks down how dogs respond to leadership and alpha because it's basic shit that's obvious
>and furthermore there are alphas and leaders of packs
It's an outdated meme the guy even who proposed it has long since rejected. In the wild wolf packs are simply families made up of two parents and their kids who leave to start their own packs once they grow up
Doesn't make any of the rest less true.
wrong
" Each is ruled by an ‘alpha’ male and female pair, with the female occupying the top slot. This alpha female chooses where her pack will build their den, and excavates it with help from her pack."
https://www.painteddog.org/about-painted-dogs
"Every hyena clan is a matriarchy ruled by an alpha female. In the clan’s strict power structure, dominance passes down the alpha female’s line to her cubs. "
https://ideas.ted.com/everything-you-know-about-hyenas-is-wrong-these-animals-are-fierce-social-and-incredibly-smart/
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dominance_hierarchy
"Hierarchy in horses appears to be linear (with occasional triangular relationships) and not necessarily based on age, weight, height, gender, or time in the group. "
"The highest-ranking stallion in a band does most of the breeding, because it is the first to secure access to a receptive female and the first to displace a female from another band."
https://www.merckvetmanual.com/behavior/normal-social-behavior-and-behavioral-problems-of-domestic-animals/social-behavior-of-horses
and of course, primates are notorious for social hierarchies based on alpha males having harems
>fucking EXPERT notices and picks out dog with strongest personality and corrects them
>other dogs fall in line
>EXPERT pairs older calm dog's influence on another younger, excitable dog
if you watch many of these episodes, women are the ones that don't exert leadership
https://www.petplay.com/blogs/tips/reasons-why-your-dog-may-be-exhibiting-alpha-behavior
you can go back and read scholarly articles about wolves. the use of alpha as a term is everywhere for a reason.
https://cdnsciencepub.com/doi/abs/10.1139/z01-223
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6180231/
"Social hierarchies are evident when deer congregate in herds, with rank determined by sex, age, and size. The largest males are dominant, followed in rank by adult females. Yearlings and fawns are subordinate to all others."
https://www.esf.edu/aec/adks/mammals/wtd.php
https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S0003347205002939
"Wolf 40 was so aggressive toward other females that they formed an alliance and killed her. Her more cooperative sister 42 then took over the leadership position."
https://www.psychologytoday.com/au/blog/animal-emotions/202303/alpha-wolves-and-alpha-dogs-arent-myths
Wolves only organize themselves like this in captivity. It's not a model that exists in nature.
>the actual social hierarchy behavior in yellowstone is the same as captivity
>ignores how other canines like painted dogs exhibit this behavior around the world
cope
If you ever run into someone who pushes the discredited "alpha wolf" research, it's probably a furry.
Nah, usually some dudebro trying to spout nonsense to probably-gay losers.
You're unironically assuming their genders
they are both males.
you can literally see a chunk of left's balls standing out
>Next movie she has eyelashes and curves.
I HATE YOU DREAMWORKS I HATE YOU!
>deyassification
What did they mean by this?
It means getting rid of eyelashes and stereotypical feminine traits in general
>feminine traits
fucking furries
>Jumba aren't you concerned this one is gonna be sexually objectified?
>THAT IS POINT STUPID CROSS DRESSING FAG!
>trannies: stop showing sexual dimorphism in cis characters
>also trannies: I NEED TO LOOK LIKE THE MOST STEREOTYPICAL STEPFORD WIFE OR HOW AM I GOING TO LOOK LIKE A WOMAN
Based jumba
Reminder that once Jumba satisfied his sexual needs (624) and his hunger (625) he could finally focus and make his perfect creation (626)
Read that with the voices. Kek.
Also
>2002
Fucking hell. That long already?
>manufactured alien with pre-determined genders
>upset that females are given female features
The worst part is that people like him used to be mocked back in the day and now they're in the industry
The overall design is fine enough but honestly being pink at that point is just beating people over the head with the assumption that you are too stupid to tell its female without it being that obvious.
It just works, why try fixing what's not broken?
>mascara
The pink one has less definition in the eyes than Stitch tho?
>trannies hate that i jerk off to cartoon animals
the absolute state of the nu-right
*with tits and butt
April will never be a black obese oompa loompa
You should be more worried about trannies being jealous of cartoon animals.
They were jealous of a literal circle with limbs
I love sexual dimorphism, one of my favorite tropes
Its overused and lazy. The artists should get more creative in how they show the masculinity or feminity of their characters.
> Its overused and lazy. The artists should get more creative in how they show the masculinity or feminity of their characters.
Imma be real with you anon, I don’t want genderless blobs that shit like Bluey have. All cartoon women who aren’t children should have big breasts and thighs
Nah
I support anything that pisses women and chuds off. Every cartoon would be better off looking like the most mysgonistic thing one can come up with.
I hate to say it, but 90s John K should be an inspiration to millions of young boys.
>Stay mad forever you got purged
Yeah man, having a million bait threads is better than talking about real cartoons
>Yeah man, having a million bait threads is better than talking about real cartoons
Furry threads were bait too, don't even pretend.
>Furry threads were bait too, don't even pretend.
They came from actual cartoons that existed and people grew up with. Twitter screencap threads didn’t. Neither did Guy/Birchy bitching as well.
And don’t pretend there still isn’t coomer shit threads. /toon/ likes to obsess over children doing lewd shit, but suddenly furry chicks are bad? I’d argue e-boifags are far worse than a guy simply jacking it to Krystal from Star Fox. Because at least she’s an adult.
>suddenly furry chicks are bad
They always were. The fact that furfags drooled over them didn't make them good.
>They always were. The fact that furfags drooled over them didn't make them good.
I can excuse porn of children, but I draw the line at busty fluffy chicks!
lmfao nobody's arguing for kiddie porn here jackass nice deflection attempt get your dick outta your dog for a second before you post next time.
>being so mindraped by furries that you can't enjoy hot tribal fox chicks.
Sad.
/toon/ likes to pretend it’s 2005 where being a pedophile and hating furries is still cool. Yet they won’t even dare say the dreaded “n word” because they also hate 4chan just as much.
Damn, man...you stumbled into an anthrocon being held at a hotel you were at and got pulled into a back room, didn't you?
Furry chicks are bad, gay
>Furry chicks are bad, gay
The main architects of anti-furry culture, SomethingAwful ended with half of their site becoming trannies and Lowtax putting a 12 gauge shotgun into his mouth. The furchads had their last laugh
You will never fuck an anthropomorphic chick
Give it time. I predict the first moreaus will be humanized lab pigs, mice and rats.
>furry chicks are bad
Factually incorrect
To avoid "she looks like a man" jokes.
It looks stupid thats why
Woah, did not expect my thread to devolve into shitshow
This is a serious topic anon. We don't fuck around with this kind of shit
What site do you think we're on?
I agree, it should be more cartoon/media specific in discussion.
Otherwise these
anons should go to >>Cinemaphile
arent female wolves larger than males
Tbf I think that's just reflective of the overall exaggerated design.
The Chad buck has a small face too. Still looks unsettling though.
I hate when ugly bastards get with a 'hot' girl
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There's a huge variety in shapes and faces of the female characters.
They are all hideously uncanny though.
(t a)
I do think that allot of the time female characters can be designed very blandly and lack soul. You can have dimorphism and still be soulful. The bear lady in open season looks so uncanny to me, I hate it. She would of looked better with exaggerated features.
I've heard allot of people say they sometimes can't tell the gender of East asians if they are wearing non binary cloths ie they see an asian women with short hair and think she's a boy, or that thai ladyboys pass much better then white or black transdgenders.
It's a similar phenomenon where many white people mistake a black woman in a tracksuit for for a man.
>I've heard allot of people say they sometimes can't tell the gender of East asians if they are wearing non binary cloths.
>non binary cloths
It's called unisex clothing
To clarify, I ment that without other indicators like gender specific hair or clothing, people recognise gender of other races with less accuracy then they would their own race.
https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/10.1068/p250669 .
Its called own-race effect. I've heard both black and white people call asian men feminine looking, and I've heard asian men call black and white women very masculine looking. I've heard people of all races say they think X all look the same, especially if they don't have a diverse friendship group.
its objectively true the shorter stature and higher estrogen diet makes asian "men" more feminine and lady like.
Black women have way higher testosterone levels are are therefore more masuline
>Asian men are objectively more feminine
I'm still able to tell the difference between a female fairy and a male fiary
>Black women are objectively more masculine
I can still tell the difference between a female orc and a male orc.
If you familiarise yourself with a certain race more then it's easier to differentiate the genders
both Caucasians and Asians were less accurate when discerning the gender of faces belongings to the oposite race.
"Caucasian observers discriminated male and female Caucasian faces more accurately/efficiently than did Oriental(1) observers, and Oriental observers discriminated male and female Japanese faces more accurately/efficiently than did Caucasian observers. This result indicates that, under suboptimal viewing conditions, the identification of even the most salient of facial characteristics—face sex—is impaired for other-race faces. "
I agree that there's no creativity with a character like in your pic and I think they look uncanny. Even the male dog looks like a wierd gromit with a mouth. Disgusting.
But i think you can have dimorphism and still have soul like in this pic of Kung fu panda
>male is bipedal
>girl is a quadruped
WHAT did they mean by this
Male is a weirdo to the point he emulates humans, and doesn't fit in with his own kind. Basically, he's a stand-in for the viewer who's weird.
It'd easy visual shorthand but they stick to the spec for this shorthand so much that it makes designs predictable. Also, animals aren't people, and you give up a lot of interesting design possibilities by trying to shoehorn in freshman level anthropomorphism for literally everything. If you needed to translate characters to human analogs so goddamn bad just use human characters.
Its fun.
Because people will complain about anything and love to try to bitch about shit in a way that makes themselves look clever.
Humans are visual animals. We couldn’t smell the differences in the sexes like a wolf would even if our movies/cartoons had an olfactory component to them so of course we play up the visual sexual dimorphism in cartoons
Kinda becomes cliche after a while. It's not interesting to look at
it's not a fucking cliche it's the most basic rules of character design and good character design should tell you everything you need to know about a character from just a look
So in your mind, the only way to say "this character is male" is by giving him a bulbous nose and tiny ugly eyes?
No, it's by making him fuckable
Sounds more like a You problem if that's where your mind went to reading my post
Then why are you defending the OP pic?
The OP's pic is complaining about all sexual dimorphism, not just guys with big noses.
No it's not? It's complaining about a specific art cliche. You see it a lot in furry art.
I have never once seen it in furry art. Making dudes goofy and ugly does not sound like something furries would want to do. It is present in some animated movies.
I really doubt there is a good faith motivation to whine about it other than hating sexual dimorphism because reality annoys insane people.
99% of furry art does it because they can't stop ripping off Don Bluth.
furries who are mad at this are straight up zoophiles and animal rapists
>Muh zoophiles
Nobody likes the human trannies from superman either, or the ugly bastard from molly mcgee, or oompa loompa april, or the entire cast of strange world
It's almost as if people don't want to see ugly people on-screen, stop thinking about porn
>furries who are mad at this are straight up zoophiles and animal rapists
The zoophiles have good taste because the majority of cartoon women /toon/ fawns over are hideous. I can see the attractive towards characters like Krystal or Renamon. I don’t see it with shit like Timmy Turner’s principal or the fat bitch who’s the mom of Molly Mcgee
anyone have the image of the wolf with a sideways nose facing towards the viewer
Don't alot of men have naturally longer eyelashes then women anyway?
Dulcinea you don't really believe that
But it says in the book tha
Well I think your book SUCKS
Who writes this trash?
Yes, testosterone makes our hair thicker I think, that's why women have to use fake lashes
i've unironically have had multiple people point out I have really long eyelashes over my lifetime so maybe it's true
Yes, women literally wear fake eyelashes and makeup to look like that, it's not natural sexual dimorphism
Because I hate furries. Whine about trannies all you want but you'll still yiff in hell.
>Because I hate furries. Whine about trannies all you want but you'll still yiff in hell.
/toon/ was the furry board before /trash/ came along. There were a bazillion threads about Callie Briggs and Gadget Hackwrench until Hiro fired all of the good mods and replaced them with jannies who hate cartoons and leave up pointless slide threads.
Stay mad forever that you got purged.
>chudchudchudchudchudchudchudchudchudchudchudchudchudchudchudchudchudchudchudchudchudchudchudchudchudchudchudchudchudchudchudchudchudchudchudchudchudchudchudchudchudchudchudchud
Riveting discussion, guys.
Leave then retard
Being able to distinguish genders in cartoons is transphobic.
I just think they look goofy
ate furries simple as
It's true
That sounds like someone fucking his dog would say to distract someone from the fact that he's got his dick in his dog. Pretty suHispanicious if you ask me. Why are you so mad that they want to take away the sexy dogs, anon?
"I told you never to disturb me when I'm in my lab!"
Underrated post, you beautiful bastard
Resorting to calling someone a kidfucker and spamming wojacks is the modern equivalent of just calling someone hitler because you ran out of better insults. You have no argument to make about why dog cartoons should be sexy.
>You have no argument to make about why dog cartoons should be sexy.
Because sexiness is good character design, brimstone like garden gnomeey isn’t. Big boobs and thighs keeps the chuds and females who join bandwagons away
>chuds are brainwashing our children with fetishy filth!
>SO WE SHOULD BRAINWASH THEM WITH MY FETISHY FILTH INSTEAD
>chuds are brainwashing our children with fetishy filth!
>SO WE SHOULD BRAINWASH THEM WITH MY FETISHY FILTH INSTEAD
Boys becoming horny sex machines is better than them chopping their cock and balls off.
Not if they're fucking dogs jackass. This isn't an either or problem you can address both. There isn't some switch somewhere that someone has to press that either makes people trans or furry. They can both be bad, you're the only one here arguing otherwise.
Jerking off to Krystal won't make anyone want to fuck their dog.
But if they're only attracted to animals they're gonna remain virgins or go to jail
So?
So it's pretty bad.
They're saying they think it should be more like the Balto cartoon or something like that. It did a good job, you can tell which wolves are male and which are female, but it's subtle and they still look like the same kind of creature. There's a middle ground between agender amorphous blobs and the caricaturesque style referenced in the OP.
Because the endpoint of this type of dimorphism is uncanny bullshit where the woman looks like a human, or way more so than the male and its jarring as fuck and in most cases becomes a much worse and creatively stagnant design that doesn't have to work within the limitations that breed creativity.
Because it looks dumb. Sexual dimorphism doesn't mean giant features for males.
The limitations that breed creativity in question:
Counterpoint. The expression of feminity in non-humans doesn't have to be much more than eyelashes and/or eyeshadow. And in this case being a near humanoid, she doesn't even have human-like breasts. Yet she has endured while many others going down the easy route are forgotten.
in mammals its more likely
Didn't they cancel this pairing because of how mad people got?
He told her in the first episode they even met that he has a girlfriend.
Too hot
Even picrel looks more like OP pic
These shows are for toddlers.
Whenever these kind of threads come up, there's always people jumping to its defense citing realistic sexual dimorphism as the reason why this is good yet at the same time these same people most likely will throw a huge fit at any semblance of non-human or non-mammal based dimorphism and argue it doesn't matter because. Like how dumbfucks constantly make female peacocks that look exactly like a male.
wait, why is the image mirrored? its backward
Femininity is a set of standards, everything that falls outside of it is automatically assumed to be male, unless proven otherwise.
How humancentric of you.
>why do females look the same in all species
>why dont human males look like anything
Because most of this shit is designed with a male audience in mind so they focus more on the female characters. Id say the reverse is true but fujoshis and twilight fangirls are creatively sterile
I honestly think it’s the reverse
Girls don’t like to be beastly/ugly
That’s why girl furries are so rare
I don't know where you've been looking. Tons of girl furries out there. They tend to do a lot of gay art, but the ones that don't are pretty damn skilled.
That’s just it, girl furries always end up being either artists or autists (or both)
I’ve never known a girl furry who is just a girl into the art/identifies as an animal/etc
One thing I noticed about a lot of female furry artists: depression issues and meds. Probably due to slooting with fans at cons for the last 15 years, then realizing they're nearly "gray-muzzles", are land-whales, and haven't secured a husband.
That's sad. Furry artist girls seem like they should be cool gf's or even friends to hang out with on paper but I guess when you're surrounded by hell you're bound to get a little messed up by it.
>One thing I noticed about a lot of female furry artists: depression issues and meds
To be honest, I’m not so sure that isn’t just because artists are a neurotic bunch to begin with, furry or not, male or female.
i hate women so much it's unreal
if they don't like it they can just leave
Shut up incel
They're out there. There is a few Homer in the Lesbian bar meme's out there made by female furries when they go to a con because most male furries are trans, gay or are such social idiots they avoid. It's one of my minor fit goals to one of these things and mog 75% of the people there.
xenos need not apply
I love that you can sense the thinly-veiled seethe emanating from this image. Oglaf was always shit but coomers here gave it a pass because boobs.
Normies share this because they're like "Haha that's true." but ultimately don't really care.
Terminally online people share it because any orthodox portrayal of gender and sexuality sends them into meltdown.
If you're going to do this nowadays, then throw in some twinks and butch chicks.
>sexual dimorphism doesn't exist... JUST BECAUSE
Are mantlets upset?
all I know is that we need to go back to Don Bluth-esque stylization, where the men are Heroic, the women sexy and the children, cherubic.
Only lefties hate it, because they want everyone to by androgynous, so they can accept themselves.
Cute.
would the right one though
ITT pot vs kettle