Why do people here old anime considered art when it's all very cringey and juvenile?

Why do people here old anime considered art when it's all very cringey and juvenile?

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  1. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    A lot of it is juvenile, some is good (very little though). I think it's mainly animation style + pseudery.

  2. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    learn to string together a proper, coherent sentence, zoomer homosexual

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      Boomers and millennials per extension aren't even people.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      I really doubt "boomers" use buzzwords or wojacks like (you).

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        Compared to what? Spongebob and other stupid Western garbage?

        Cope harder, zoomer

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          >Compared to what?
          More modern anime, probably?

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            Name 3

            • 2 years ago
              Anonymous

              Vinland Saga
              Magi
              Hunter x Hunter (11)

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                Berserk 1997
                Cardcaptor Sakura
                Yuu Yuu Hakusho

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                Eh. I'll give you Berserk though it doesn't really work on that well on its own.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      He did, stupid.

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        >why do people here old anime
        dumb homosexual

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          I didn't even mind it when reading. I understood what he meant.

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            keep shifting the goal posts, gaytard

            • 2 years ago
              Anonymous

              I'm a different, anon. You're pretending there's a problem when there clearly isn't.

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                i guess it's not a problem if you're severely mentally moronic. i guess we'll just have to agree to disagree

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                >guess it's not a problem if you're severely mentally moronic.
                That makes 0 sense in context.

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                >Double down on being a downie

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                OP clearly has no qalified opinion when he can't even speak english properly or at least check his sentences first, which just means he is either some young kid, foreigner or a bot.

  3. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    It's art the same way all media is considered art by some butthole. Anyway, the reason people like old anime/tv shows/movies/music/whatever is that enough time has passed for all the shit to be filtered out so only the good stuff really gets passed around these days.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      Yes but anime isn't good. I'd say it actually gets worse the more time you invest into it and seek stuff out. It never reaches those heights of being a teenager and doing a Ghibli marathon or watching Akira for the first time.

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        >Akira
        Trash. Pure trash.

  4. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Why do post for all to see not even basic proofread? Not like Ninja Scroll so IQ very small and probably penis as well.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      >Why do post for all to see not even basic proofread?
      Brain too fast. A plebeian wouldn't understand.

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        Your brain is so full of unearned self-importance that you can't be bothered to write like someone for whom English is the mother tongue, gotcha.

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          Sounds like you really want to suck my dick. Not gonna happen, gay boy.

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            You gonna sweet talk me to death or you gonna just admit Ninja Scroll is a good movie? Either way you gettin' turkeyslapped, homie.

            • 2 years ago
              Anonymous

              I'm not OP and haven't seen it. I liked vampire Hunter D: Bloodlust, so it might be decent as well. OP still made a good point overall and the only one getting slapped is you, with my wiener, in your horny gay fantasies.

  5. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Atmosphere

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      It is art tho.

      Kawajiri is an artist.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      [...]
      Kawajiri is an artist.

      Source me up senpai

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        Birdy the Mighty? Just from googling file name. Could have done that yourself.

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        Birdy the Mighty (the old best one)
        After you watch that, Decode isn't that bad.

  6. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    It is art tho.

  7. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Vampire Hunter D Bloodlust and Highlander are also pretty amazing

  8. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    anime shoots itself in the foot by having awful dialogue, characters that act like archetypes and robots and some of the dumbest plots imaginable with sometimes a bonus of philosophy a middle schooler finds profound like with ergo proxy and texhnolyze. such autistic animation and storyboard effort gone to waste.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      Watch Ranking of Kings. It was actually good even by non-anime standards.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      >with sometimes a bonus of philosophy a middle schooler finds profound
      This is the funny thing about anime. They probably think that if they quote some philosophers it makes their work more profound.

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        They do it in video games as well. Take nier automata for example. Yoko taro is such a pretentious moron.

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          With Kojima we're actually at the point where it's funny though.

  9. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Old anime used be bolder and crazier because artist used to have a lot more freedom. Modern anime is safer but also more standarized.

  10. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    >why do anime cringe and poop
    Shut up esl

  11. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    i like the original story better

  12. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Fricking hate ESLs

  13. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Appreciation of beauty and aesthetics. Hope you get out of your plotgay phase some day.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      on what planet is that beauty and aesthetics. read a book. pic related is beautiful kinography, even miyahacki conceded to the GOAT.

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        Both are beautiful. Anime does a lot.

        Anime *is* beautiful in many cases.

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          If you don’t think this is the tightest shit ever we can’t be frens:

          And it just keeps going on and on.

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        hahahahahahaha

  14. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Inherently cinematic, aesthetically interesting, bold and unique visions with a real budget behind them, and it’s fun. Or is fun not allowed? Am I not allowed to like Point Break or Indiana Jones or The Warriors because it’s “cringe”?

  15. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Yeah, Ninja Scroll is great, now frick off.

  16. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    It's the same 2-3 anime people just mention in every thread. Most "old" anime Cinemaphile recommends is from the 90s or 00s.

  17. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Read Journey to the West and you will realise that a frickton of anime tropes come from there.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      it's cause japan stole most of their culture from china

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        YEa and IMPROVED UPON THEM. Stupid Communists.

  18. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    I don't care about "muh art" and anyone who does is an insecure homosexual, seeking validation from pseud nobodies. I just want to watch good quality animation with cool fights and big jiggling breasts.

  19. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    I wish I was this snake.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      Are you me?

  20. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Ghibli is good.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      Ghibli was inspired by Western fiction and real cinema. Anime in general is its own thing. It exists in a bubble together with other otaku media.

  21. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Because they're tasteless videogame players
    remember these are the same Cinemaphileedditors that have been begging for live action adaptations of their teen cartoons for decades to make it seem more "mature"
    now they're getting them and they hate it because it just shows how juvenile the shows are

  22. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    >watching high quality OVAs for the writing, and not the actual artistry of the animation
    You're doing it wrong.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      It's more than that. It's the overall atmosphere, art, music. Not just animation.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      animation is a tool to convey stories and emotions else you just end up with pulpy style over substance garbage if you put thought into the things that are supposed to be animated. akira kurosawa considered the script the most important aspect of a film.

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        Style is substance. Read a book if you have no taste for aesthetics.

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous
  23. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    You don’t like anime because it’s very often sincere. Your underdeveloped taste is unused to sincere works of art that aren’t self serious or above it all. Anime was really influenced by American cinema of the 80’s, and it wears its heart on its sleeve, something that Hollywood is almost always too cowardly to do. Anime is made from a desire to give people what they love, not sell a message or trick them with feeling like they’re a big boy for getting it.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      I like sincerity, it's actually the opposite that my taste is too developed to consider anime anything but puerile nonsense. None of the shit this gay

      Depends what you're looking for, I'd say most Ghibli is pure kino. Same goes for Ghost in the Shell, Cowboy Bebop, Neon Genesis and Akira. Cowboy Bebop in particular has some great character moments and sharp writing, same goes for Eva. From there, you have stuff like Angel's Egg, Jin-Roh and Perfect Blue that reinstate serious artistry. Artistically, stuff like Devil Man and Violence Jack are pure trash, but they ultimately use their pulp leanings to speak deeper about the hostility within human nature, albeit in a format that is completely ridiculous. Oh same goes for Space Dandy, dumb but amazing for what it is.

      All anime is, are cartoons from Japan. There isn't anything "special" about it and it just hangs there within the field. That said, there are 3 things I hate 1) the fandom, I am a closeted weeb and refuse to talk about anime in public, my GF is Japanese and she doesn't even weeb out over anime 2) the episodic nature, overtly cute and or rapey tones. Seriously the 80s/90s were bizarre with all the rape. Love Wicked City's style but I can only watch a demon woman get dicked down for so long. That said, Legend Of The Overfiend needs to be seen. 3) I hate the odd western obsession with anime, like why has it become so ingrained into zoomer culture? Me and the GF don't get the anime obsession.

      recommends comes near any of my favorite films or animations, like Yuri Norstein's works or anything from Tarkovsky, Angelopoulos and Ozu. I'm just too old for this shit I guess and didn't grow up with it.

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        Rose of Versailles
        Mushishi
        Princess Tutu
        Wolf Children
        Millennium Actress
        Death Parade
        Neon Genesis Evangelion

        There’s your list, boomerbro. I get it, but anime really does have something to offer anybody, even lacking decades on cinema.

        You’re never too old to watch anime:

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          Eh. Not a good list.

          I like sincerity, it's actually the opposite that my taste is too developed to consider anime anything but puerile nonsense. None of the shit this gay [...] recommends comes near any of my favorite films or animations, like Yuri Norstein's works or anything from Tarkovsky, Angelopoulos and Ozu. I'm just too old for this shit I guess and didn't grow up with it.

          Try Violet Evergarden and Ranking of Kings.

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            All earnest auteur efforts with engaging presentation and premises.

            • 2 years ago
              Anonymous

              They are all bogged to death by Japanese spirituality.

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                Ozu fan?

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                No.

  24. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Depends what you're looking for, I'd say most Ghibli is pure kino. Same goes for Ghost in the Shell, Cowboy Bebop, Neon Genesis and Akira. Cowboy Bebop in particular has some great character moments and sharp writing, same goes for Eva. From there, you have stuff like Angel's Egg, Jin-Roh and Perfect Blue that reinstate serious artistry. Artistically, stuff like Devil Man and Violence Jack are pure trash, but they ultimately use their pulp leanings to speak deeper about the hostility within human nature, albeit in a format that is completely ridiculous. Oh same goes for Space Dandy, dumb but amazing for what it is.

    All anime is, are cartoons from Japan. There isn't anything "special" about it and it just hangs there within the field. That said, there are 3 things I hate 1) the fandom, I am a closeted weeb and refuse to talk about anime in public, my GF is Japanese and she doesn't even weeb out over anime 2) the episodic nature, overtly cute and or rapey tones. Seriously the 80s/90s were bizarre with all the rape. Love Wicked City's style but I can only watch a demon woman get dicked down for so long. That said, Legend Of The Overfiend needs to be seen. 3) I hate the odd western obsession with anime, like why has it become so ingrained into zoomer culture? Me and the GF don't get the anime obsession.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      You don't understand why teenagers are obsessed with easily accessible cartoons that are aimed specifically towards them?

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      >the 80s/90s were bizarre with all the rape. Love Wicked City's style but I can only watch a demon woman get dicked down for so long
      This made me despise wicked city. It's literally a fricking hentai and the plot was garbage. And the demon woman had potential to be a great character. It pissed all the potential it had down a drain of coomershit and i regret wasting 2 hours.

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        Ninja Scroll is a bit less rapey, but goddamn Wicked City had that annoying old horny fricker as well. Recently saw Kite, and that's the thing, the whole medium is full of coom-heads and it clashes with some potentially good stories.

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          Kite is literally a hentai.

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          I began watching the Bastard remake and it was at least soft hentai as well. Trash.

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            >Filtered by turbochad DS
            Pathetic

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            it's. all. porn. all of it. you can call it whatever you please but it's all the same shitty ass art style, the same stupid stories, and the same hypersexulized gender blending characters.

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          I began watching the Bastard remake and it was at least soft hentai as well. Trash.

          it's. all. porn. all of it. you can call it whatever you please but it's all the same shitty ass art style, the same stupid stories, and the same hypersexulized gender blending characters.

          >sexuality bad aaaaaaaaaaaa pastor save me im going insaaaane

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            Only love can fill that hole in your heart. Lust is going to tear it open even further. Cope and seethe. In your heart of hearts you know I'm right.

            • 2 years ago
              Anonymous

              See this is why everyone hates this fricking place, it’s full of dipshits who say this and are clearly a fat man child.

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                then take your goddamned tranime and frick off. nobody. please. please take your pedo toons and your pedo buddies and go someplace else.

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                >thread stared by obvious Cinemaphileautist
                >still blames troons and weebs
                Nah I wanna stay around and watch the monkeys like you throw shit around.

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                Silence, termite.

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                Ooo that’s a new one, where did you steal it from?

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                From under your mom's pillow. Don't tell her please.

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                Hey don’t talk about your grandmother like that.

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                I'll teach your grandmother to suck eggs.

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                I don't. I only go after your relatives.

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                >thread stared by obvious Cinemaphileautist (sic)
                you're clearly the one who stared (sic again) this thread pedophile

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                I stared at your moms ass.

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                >clearly a fat man child
                I'm athletically built, 6'1 and probably have far more life experience than you. Try again.

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                >posting on this shit board
                No you aren’t

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                Kek. Mighty load of projection going on there, big guy.

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                Hey I’m not spewing lies and buzzwords unlike you, but sure your 6’1 and well built.

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                >sure your 6’1 and well built
                Yup.

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                >T.360 pounds of pure fat and mommies love.

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                Cope and seethe. Or better: Hit the gym, you lazy fart.

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                You first, surfing Cinemaphile doesn’t count as working out. And no amount of projection will make it true.

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                I don't browse Cinemaphile. Only Cinemaphile and Cinemaphile. Cope and seethe harder.

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                lets switch rails here. what about this specific pedo toon is better than all the other pedo toons you pirated?

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                He looked at me funny.he might be coming on to me.

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          I recently gave city hunter a try, in hopes that it would be like cowboy bebop and gave it up when it was 99% the protagonist being a moronic annoying coomer
          >le mokkori xD

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      Ghibli is unironically genuine trash. It has to be said. Self-hating culture wank of the worst kind. Miyazaki is a gay.

  25. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    This movie is feces. It's everything wrong with animation as a medium condensed into a single movie. It's part of why animation took so long to be taken seriously.

  26. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    There's always Ghibli.

  27. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Ninja Scroll in particular, the movie and the series, had some very unique monsters with unique powers. You had a guy that had a wasp/bee hive on his back. The story was average and or ok but the fight scenes and crazy powers really made it.

  28. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    For me, it's Gunsmith Cats

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      based

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        thanks. what are your pronouns

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          Was/were
          You'll understand soon.

  29. 2 years ago
    Anonymous
  30. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    ESL-kun it's time to take a break.

  31. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    This thread is full of fricking morons

    Watch everything on this list, it doesn't include things you should already know about

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      that's a lot of tranime trash you got there was/were

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        Oof, wrong

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      3x3 Eyes is convoluted nonsense.

  32. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Reminder the rise of Cinemaphileedditors coming over to Cinemaphile as a result of Bane memes has led to a shift in taste on Cinemaphile

    99% of the anime threads here are made by Cinemaphileedditors who only watch LE EPIC MANIME shonen trash and are too scared to post on Cinemaphile because no one wants to talk about the same 5 old classic anime that only entry level newhomosexuals know about. Then they cry about Cinemaphile having shit taste and proceed to buy their next avengers movie ticket.

    Cinemaphile has actually done a fantastic job at keeping out you Cinemaphileeddit scum and so all you homosexuals come crying here because no one wanted to accommodate your newhomosexualry.

    Also you all treat Cinemaphile as a place to ask for recommendations when

    [...]

    was made to deal with garbage threads like these that aren't actually discussing anything. This thread should be deleted but since Cinemaphile mods are garbage it won't be.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      LotGH is actually good and Berserk is decent. Monoke is decent as well. Rest is trash though.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      >Cinemaphile instead is full of twitter homosexual and Hispanic spamming the same shit in every thread
      What a great job indeed

  33. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    These threads are bunch snobby douchebags using buzzwords and throwing “critic” words while acting like their media superior lol.

  34. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Why are you cherry picking a reddit-tier battle shounen that you've probably not even watched

  35. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Zoomers have ruined Cinemaphile.

  36. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Why are you not sentencing in a very OK way?

  37. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Anime ruined Japanese cinema.

  38. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    I'm making my own anime thread too

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