Why do people ship Judy and Nick but hated Gadget and Zipper?
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Why do people ship Judy and Nick but hated Gadget and Zipper?
Why do people ship Judy and Nick but hated Gadget and Zipper?
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Another couple Cinemaphile should theoretically hate given their hatred of Zipper/Gadget
Theoretic nothing no one has ever liked the character of Roger Rabbit.
Well, those two are incredibly different
The main thing is that those two pairings are all explicitly understood to be on the same level. Nick and Judy are both people trying to make their way in the world, and Roger and Jessica are an established married couple.
Gadget and Zipper get people upset primarily because Zipper is not humanized in the same way as everyone else is. In the show, while he has smarts, Zipper is treated mainly as a team pet, not a toon-man like everyone else.
Nick and Judy would work as a comparison only if Judy wasn’t an anthropomorphic bunny, but an actual, feral bunny that Nick was fricking. It would come off as the sort of weird you can’t ignore. Roger and Jessica have the excuse that it’s fairly normal for toons, as their relationship is the equivalent of an insanely hot woman dating a short, dorky fat man because she finds him endearing. Gadget is having sex with an animal they made more human so that 10 minutes of a joke could be delivered
What kind of moronic strawman is this? Roger and Jessica were established as a couple at the beginning of the movie and it's always been that way. Zipper and Gadget weren't a thing until the movie 30 years after the show came out.
Here's your answer.
Neither Nick and Judy nor Roger and Jessica had anything established before the movie.
I want everyone to keep in mind that Jessica hated Roger in the original source material.
>the movie was so good it retconned the source material by the creator
And?
That's a shame. They're cute in the movie.
what
said. The movie was so good that author wrote a sequel to that retconned the first book into being a bad dream movie Roger had.
I should really read them then
See
>/hfoma/
>hate
just grasping at straws, industry intern.
There are some big reasons why Gadget and Zipper are hated but being interspecies isn't one of them.
Gadget and Zipper were hated mainly because they cucked the preferred fanships of the show(Gadget with either Chip or Dale, usually Chip). Nick and Judy ARE the main fanship of the movie, technically they're less official than Gadget and Chip were because they haven't even explicitly flirted. Roger and Jessica are a package deal. Both of those ships are also still between mammals and not a rodent and an insect that couldn't even speak on the same level in the show.
>they haven't even explicitly flirted
Judy explicitly says she loves Nick. Saying you love someone you aren't dating could be romantic, it could be platonic. There's some leeway to argue there.
I'd normally agree but shipping them is too obvious and boring imo
FRICK quoted the wrong anon.
That's not explcit then
One-sided
Because Roger Rabbit is an awesome movie, Zootopia is an okay movie, and Rescue Rangers is a shit movie.
>moron doesn't get that Zipper was supposed to be the group dog, mentally speaking
Gotta hate Cinemaphile's obsession with crimestop.
>Nick/Judy
Mammal/mammal
>Roger/Jessica
Mammal/mammal
>gadget/zipper
Mammal/insect
It's just too much of a species jump
>It's just too much of a species jump
Bullseye, there's a limit or threshold to bend the rules, even in a fictional world, but producers need the slightest common sense or decency to understand that, which for the RR movie is obviously missing.
That shit wasn't hated because you was interspecies
Zipper is established as the pet. Doesn't matter if he's just an actor playing a pet, it's weird because we know him as the pet.
It'd be like if they decide to meta Scooby Doo and Velma hooks up with Scooby.
Would making Gadget a lesbian made more of a ruckus or less?
By now? People are fed up with gay trash in kid properties so Gadget being a dyke would piss people off. It certainly made people angry to see lesbian shit in Lightyear by Pixar.
More, because you know that they will pair her with a butch, side-shaved fat(?) character. At least the movie has her in a loving relationship and is a good mother to her kids, even if her kids are mutant abominations.
consider....
Lesbian relationships are never between two good-looking women in woke-centric media. Gadget is already pretty, so they won't pair her with another pretty character. You know that.
>Lesbian relationships are never between two good-looking women in woke-centric media
Harley and Ivy
Korra and Asami
And Princess Bubblegum&Marceline
OR Luz & Amity
unless they decide to make gadget the ugly one by giving her short hair with one side shaven off
That's why I'm not really concerned about the Gadget thing in the RR movie. They didn't do her dirty like they could have like we see with every other character. The RR movie was just shit for other reasons--mainly the fact that it was boring and relies purely on references to be entertaining.
I'd like if she had the opposite of Gadget
While Gadget ignores Chip, Glitch tries to sexually assault Chip
What if she became lesbian with a fly
More. China wouldn’t be happy
Making her lesbian or making her make out with any generic mouse guy would be less strange. Heck, the moronic screenwriters missed out opportunity for a joke to hook her up with Jerry
Pretty much this. Another analogy is Brian Griffin with Lois, or with any other woman he's been with for that matter.
>Brian Griffin
At least he sapient in intelligence.
Still seems kinda weird how they would be willing to frick a dog just because he can act like a human.
Family Guy animals are weird and switch between having the rights of humans and the rights of irl animals at a whim
This. It's done out of the convenience for the plot.
rates of zoophilia would skyrocket if dogs were intelligent and could talk like normal people with normal voices.
You'd also have the problem of having to give dogs human rights and all the problems that come with that
that's a lot
Zipper wasn't Monty's pet.
I don't get the reasoning behind repeating things that aren't true to make yourselves angrier at a shitty movie.
>Zipper wasn't Monty's pet.
He’s certainly not on the same level as everyone else, come on
He wasn't the pet though, they werent having him on a leash, he wasn't eating from a bowl and he understood all complicated commands he was given. He was the scout soldier in the group. At best you could argue that he was the kid in the team
This. It's like calling Short Round from Temple of Doom Indy's pet.
Short Round is not similar enough to Zippper for that analogy to work
Even if he was, it’d still be pretty weird if Short Round, as he was, just came back having married Miriam
>It's like calling Short Round from Temple of Doom Indy's pet
He very clearly was, same as ET for Elliott.
/thread
the only ones mad are gadgetgays who never watched the show and only know her through porn
I watched the show. Total oldanon here. I'm extra mad because they screwed up what is likely to be the last RR movie ever made.
RR appearance on DuckTales? Cool, that was great. Totally unnecessary. Not their series. Very nice.
The Seth Rogan movie? Absolute waste of years of work and time and the properties involved. It is both a knockoff fake and garbage.
The Gadget-Zipper ending? They 'subvert expectations' by breaking up the now-loser hero with his love interest and throw her to the show's version of Lassie. Utter garbage. King Arthur got a shafted less hard than this.
>Zipper is established as the pet.
My dude, even if that were unambiguously the case isn't the premise of the movie that the show was entirely fictional? And they're actors?
Yes, just like if Scooby Doo was "just a TV show and they're all actors" doesn't make Velma fricking Scooby not weird to us.
Velma isn't already an animal, it'd be more like if Velma fricked a dude that played a caveman
people are animals, moron.
You know exactly what is meant when someone says people aren't animals, you are just desperate to sound smart.
>uh didnt u kno it isnt actually real? hurr
didn't you read the entire comment you replied to?
> Doesn't matter if he's just an actor playing a pet, it's weird because we know him as the pet.
>It'd be like if they decide to meta Scooby Doo and Velma hooks up with Scooby.
That's why the movie's shit. The characters aren't the characters we know and love. They're just "actors".
>It'd be like if they decide to meta Scooby Doo and Velma hooks up with Scooby.
Say that to Omniman
No one liked Zipper, or Monty for that matter, because he's the defective moron of the group. We saw insects could speak, so Zipper is menrally challenged character under general circumstances. Also lets not ignore Zipper is a fly and flies are disgusting animals. More disgusting than cats and rabbits and foxes.
This. Zipper is like Dopey from Snow White, neither character can speak, but the other members of their kind most certainly can talk.
Disney has a thing where silent characters are usually the mentally challenged ones, the mute assistant from Cinderella comes to mind and he also physically looked off. Like there was something wrong with him.
>or Monty for that matter
that's some roight heavy foightin words fer a bloke such as u m8
Your bait is old and stale, get with the times
Don't worry Disney will lose money and after they lose enough they will be acquired by Microsoft or Apple or the other giant conglomerates. Disney's days of independence are numbered.
They are, if this is true, count the RR movie into the red numbers.
https://redstate.com/brandon_morse/2022/06/21/disney-stock-has-tumbled-nearly-50-percent-as-audiences-turn-away-n581861
Because Nick and judy are equivalent of Chip and Gadget you moron
You can't have a day passed away from this threads fricking going.
I wonder if co/ actually likes anything about RR or just all the damming controversy around it.
People like this show, it wouldn't be a massive controversy for this long nor people making threads hitting bump limit and ignoring the movie with them if they didn't
Frick you and Disney
FINNICKED
Possibly these threads are Bot generated, is quite unlikely an organic being can be this stubborn.
>Everything has been talked-about and answered already.
>Movie is not canon.
is not canon.
That cannot be true until the movie has been replaced. As in, make a new one and we'll see. We're stuck with this mediocre thing as "Rescue Rangers" until someone hands out immortality so that everyone can last long enough for the next "secure the copyright" RR movie.
what do you mean not canon?
Movie Debunks itself out of canon.
It has been discussed here several times.
https://desuarchive.org/co/thread/131208586/#131211561
Basically, canon to Chip n' Dale (which has been around for a long time), but not canon to Rescue Rangers.
Not even that, movie goes about actors with the same profiles leaving the original canon fictional characters intact.
Will Smith is an actor and also a character on Fresh Prince. Anything Will Smith does in real life has no bearing on the canocity of the Will Smith from Fresh Prince.
Same thing with Chip n' Dale. They play themselves on the show Rescue Rangers, so anything they do in the movie is them being themselves and has no bearing on the Chip and Dale from Rescue Rangers.
Yes that's another case. Dalechads posted the debunking thread months ago.
Repost at will to take the movie down or slap them in the face if close enough.
RR sages can now refer to canon Gadged to differentiate.
God Dale is so hot
He cute.
My husband <3
Kill this Munk already. Three team slots free.
>They play themselves on the show Rescue Rangers, so anything they do in the movie is them being themselves and has no bearing on the Chip and Dale from Rescue Rangers.
Thats moronic, who wants to watch a show thats about cartoon characters pretending to be cartoon characters.
>Thats moronic, who wants to watch a show thats about humans pretending to be humans
Who framed roger rabbit,
Bojack Horseman
i just wanted to make a zootopia thread
IMO its because its easy to look past interspecies romance in cartoon animals when they are close enough (both mammals, both hot blooded, etc.); it gets progressively weirder the less they have in common.
We as humans have evolutionarily adapted to perceive insects as gross so we are generally not very fond of them and on top of its a fly which is a notoriously ugly and filthy insect. All in all it just feels like the anthro animal version of a human woman dating a horrible mutant.
After the movie, TMNT can gangbang April on-screen and even have half mutant abominations and get away with it like normies.
Actually that is less disgusting.
Zippergays gonna love it.
94MY of evolutionary divergence vs 694MY or evolutionary divergence (according to timetree), Different orders vs different Phylum.
Also, Pretty sure zipper is meant to be the same intelligence as a pet/small child in the original series.
how did you figure this out? that seems oddly specific
http://www.timetree.org/
cool
Chemistry and it was liked
Zipper was the team pet. He was treated as one and acted like one (by Hanna Barbara/Mickey Mouse standards, where pets can sometimes act more humanish but are still not really on the same level as everyone else). It was put in as a cynical "lol, people won't like this!" joke by sitcom writers with no real interest in the project. The director even said he thought that the Rangers aside from Chip and Dale were just something shoehorned into the movie he wanted to tell (which wasn't really about the Rangers at all, they were just a vague vehicle for a meme-decorated story about Hollywood being crappy).
Nick and Judy were the main characters of the movie and there was a genuine effort by the writers to show them getting close and becoming friends.
People ship Nick and Judy because people will ship two good friends. People hated Gadget and Zipper because "she ended up with the pet, that's what happened to her, now don't ask about her again" nicely sums up what a waste of a property the movie was. Ten years in development hell, at least four legitimate attempts to make a RR reboot shut down in favor of this, and it ends up being a movie that doesn't even want to be a RR movie and trolls anyone wanting to see the characters from the show.
Well put, though I'm rather sad you spent so much effort on a genuine response for a shitpost thread. OP didn't actually want an answer, he's just baiting for (You)s.
In that sense OP is much like the staff behind the movie.
One is built up. The other isn't. The ones are mammals. The other is a fricking insect. One had a duo. The other played with a love triangle and an actual love interest that was a lab rat which didn't include the fricking pet fly that couldn't talk.
Its a fricking insult to the fans to be a joke for the zoomers who didn't know the show. Because that's how Disney rolls.
>Because that's how Disney rolls.
Honestly that's my biggest issue. They knew the Zipper/Gadget thing was going to ruffle feathers, and they could have very easily left it out, but instead they put it in and basically told everyone who got upset to get a life. Disney doesn't respect it's own audience because they thoroughly believe that pissing people off is the absolute best way to market their movies.
>pissing people off is the absolute best way to market their movies.
if it works it works mang
Is it working, though? People are talking about it, sure, but how many tickets are ACTUALLY being sold? How many copies of home releases are ACTUALLY being bought?
youre not seeing the bigger picture
To be fair if they didn't care they'd have stuck with the original Pluto ending
Chemistry, no official pairing, not done as a joke or for shock value, etc.
>not done as a joke
you're autistic
They're both fugly characters.
>Gadget and Zipper
I didn't hate it because its not canon, Judy and Nick would be canon if it happened though and I guarentee you there would be a LOT of people who hate it
I'm pretty sure the average person assumes they're an item already
CANON
Man, Finnick totally would've been a smoker had Disney not had a ban on smoking in their movies since Atlantis.
Who the frick cares, honestly? If it was some canon Rescue Rangers sequel where Zipper and Gadget are married I'd get why it leaves a sour taste, but it's some shitty straight to streaming memefest where it's technically not even really Zipper and Gadget from Rescue Rangers but actors playing Zipper and Gadget from Rescue Rangers that are actually a pair of washed up celebrities. It's not canon to the show, it's not part of anything that will ever be more popular than the show and it's part of a movie everyone has already forgotten about. I don't care whether some Disney+ trash had Gadget fricking Zipper or Monterey Jack dying from a cheese overdose or Launchpad McQuack having nightly gay sex with Uncle Scrooge.
Judy and Nick aren't a couple though. Also both of them are mammals while Zip is a fricking, ugly fly with Gadget being a mouse.
It feels wrong. Like someone fricking their dog.
I remember even as a kid this was too weird for me
Neither of them are any good, but I can tolerate/prefer Nick/Judy over horseshit like Zipper/Judy
>zipper/judy
Clearly that means Gadget/Nick would be the thing and that is the superior ship of all ships.
>Zipper/Judy
The name's Finnick
If something RR ever comes out make sure the fly gets removed, it came with Mont and can leave the same way, they owe it as respect for the fan base after the movie. Make zipper a drone. Having Mont and the fly gone leaves two slots in the team for more in depth characters.
'cuz a fly buzzing around a chicks' vag is a major red flag
Cuz they'd be dead normally
Gadget looks so shitty
You can thank their 3D 2-D cell shading thing because apparently no one knows how to do traditional 2D animation anymore.
>no one knows how to do traditional 2D animation anymore
Japan does, is the best way to go if anybody pretends to have a half decent presentation for 2D. Mutafukas is good example, you can have writers from anywhere but the artistic department should be on Japanese hands.
True, but that's also where the RR movie fricks up. They tout that the characters can stay traditional 2D or upgrade to 3D, but they can't even be bothered to have characters that stayed 2D be 2D animation. So now all we have are characters that choose to stay shitty 3D or upgrade to good 3D.
Dumbsville tries too hard to be mumkey jones, and mumkey is just a shittier version of Jim
Dumbs just feels like Zoomer version of Poop era...but more music nerd centered.
At least he's not a sped like turkey tom, but a lot of zoomer YouTubers take after the old fricks like vinny vinesauce or filthy frank
Holy shit witnessed.
better then a su thread
Because Gadget and Zipper was rape against the audience
Zipper should've become Queenie's king but the producers of the movie most likely never even saw that episode or most of the show for that matter
They don't have to give a shit because they already have the excuse that all of the characters are actors so anything that happened in the Rescue Rangers TV show doesn't matter.
hm
Because you are Nick and Judy's relationship come to be through the movie, granted it's not romantic but at least something is there. I'm rescue rangers, the old show, Zipper was essentially the team dog and kid sidekick in one, and he was the only member of thread besides Monty to not show any romantic attraction to Gadget, so it just comes off weird. Also it's incredibly obvious how the Gadget Zipper marriage was thrown in there to subvert expectations, and catch people off guard.
These threads are creepy, come out of nowhere asking the same questions again. Wonder how many bots are involved in replying here.
1. The story of Zootopia is built on Nick and Judy forming an emotional bond.
2. Nick and Judy, while clearly different species, were essentially depicted as equally "human" in a sense.
3. Nick and Judy are not officially together and it's just up to interpretation (in the original movie at least, I don't know if there is a short or something that confirms it).
4. Zipper was depicted more or less as a mute pet in the show.
5. The creators of the show clearly had both Chip and Dale crush on her.
6. The movie contradicts the show (and arguably more important for the genre, what the real world history of Chip and Dale actually is) in really annoying ways, this just being one of them.
7. The movie is just shit in general compared to Zootopia.
It wasn't foreshadowed in any way
artist?
One is canon the other is not.
Zipper was the pet for fricks sake
Gadget's head is bigger than Zipper's whole body.
Oh shit you're right
Anon, they're not even from the same phylum.
Imagine if they made Zootopia 2 where Judy marries a tarantula. Also flies are disgusting and people hate them anyway.