Why do the X-men presume to represent mutantkind when the majority of them can pass as regular humans?

Why do the X-men presume to represent mutantkind when the majority of them can pass as regular humans?

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  1. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Because a majority of mutants can pass as humans, but they also have people that cannot pass as humans. Beast. Gambit on inspection of his eyes.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      beast can attend furry conventions and have all the gay sex he desires, by 1997 im sure there were a lot of that going on or maybe go to discreet gay hookuo areas for sex and then on halloween go to gay parties amd have sex

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      https://i.imgur.com/16wj9p8.png

      Why do the X-men presume to represent mutantkind when the majority of them can pass as regular humans?

      Beast is surprisingly the most "human" one since, save for looking like a huge blue ape, his powers are just that he's very strong and agile.
      If he could fit in during some canon, so can the godlike Black and redhead that actually look human if they just restrain their power a little bit.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        No but you see that would require like repressing who they really are and that’s not fair to them you know.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        wasn't he originally not-blue? assume he got blue'd from something else

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          He became blue, get this, trying to get rid of his mutation. He had abnormally large hands and feet and felt ugly. His experiments made him worse, it advanced his mutation.

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          He became blue, get this, trying to get rid of his mutation. He had abnormally large hands and feet and felt ugly. His experiments made him worse, it advanced his mutation.

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          He became blue, get this, trying to get rid of his mutation. He had abnormally large hands and feet and felt ugly. His experiments made him worse, it advanced his mutation.

          there's a chance beast would have kept mutating anyway, because the MGH changed him in such a way that his body has made him change on its own, like the cat form, before becoming simian after that. other than darwin, beast is the embodiment of evolution and mutancy

    • 4 weeks ago
      El Barto

      funny thing: beast used to be more human until the 70’s, when he drank some kinda thing that made him into the blue furry dude we see today

  2. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    which makes the whole racism against mutants stupid, but bigots will bigot

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >murder is wrong
      >"but what even IS murder, really?"
      I hate. I just hate.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        That's a real god damn topic of discussion.

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Philosophy absolutely needs to be taught in schools

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            All my friends who got into philosophy became obnoxious gays or communist

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            "What is murder?" is not a philosophical question. It has an answer. Unlawful killing of humans is murder.

            • 4 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              >"Unlawful"
              >not a philosophical issue

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                It's not. Law is not a philosophy. Now if you're asking if it's moral or not then you're in that realm of philosophy.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >Law is not a philosophy

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                lmfao, based legalist confucian scholar.

                hey don't compare Storm to that frickup Jean. Storm was pretty good with her powers even as a kid

                thats true, but I wouldn't be surprised that if without training Storm would've been a ticking timebomb. Considering how commanding she is, all it'd take was a bad relationship and the levy's are going down lol.

                No I’m looking at it as a bunch of people in a fricking mansion and the ability to move freely crying about how hard their lives are when they’re able to live normal live and even be fricking worshipped by people.

                yeah, and that's surface level lol.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >yeah, and that's surface level lol
                It’s not but you’ll keep repeating it because you have nothing else to say.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                It is. The original series has an entire episode dedicated to storms issue with repression. The discussion between jean and storm in episode 2 is about them opining about being a "human". To storm we know that what she desperately would like is to be free and 'let go', to her that's what she envies about normal humans, they can be open and jubilant, furious, and sorrowful. To Jean we know that she would love to be able to not have to constantly hold her powers back else she mind rape someone.

                Why would any of them even be at Xavier's mansion if they could just lead normal lives fully integrated into society? It's because they can't even if they wanted to because their life experiences are just that different from normal humans.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                No they can fricking not, no one can just do what they want, I can just start taking shit from stores and killing people. Just because she isn’t allowed to just whip tornadoes and shit doesn’t mean that she’s being denied the human experience.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Emotions =/= Actions for normal humans. I see I'm dealing with a moron, have fun on the short bus.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                If her powers are tied to her emotions then in this case they are. But keep seething.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                It's ok to admit when you were wrong anon. It's shows maturity and intelligence.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >no argument
                Acting smug is the first sign of desperation.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >If her powers are tied to her emotions then in this case they are.
                What you posted wasn't even English.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >emotions=/=actions in normal humans
                >If her powers are tied to her emotions then in this case they are
                So either you don’t understand what I meant or you have no counter and resorting to grammargayging to deflect.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >So either you don’t understand what I meant or you have no counter and resorting to grammargayging to deflect.
                I know what you meant and it doesn't rebut what I stated. Jean and Storms powers ARE based on their emotions, hence you not robbing a bank =/= them not feeling sad and killing dozens of people. This back and forth makes me understand magneto's pain, having to deal with inferiors giving them chance after chance to prove their usefulness is exhausting.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                If their powers are based off of their emotions then the barrier between action and emotion falls. If she can’t feel without shooting lightning then there is a problem with her. And she is able to walk around most of the time with no issue so really that’s no excuse.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >then there is a problem with her
                People said this about interracial and gay couples, too. Are you finally getting the analogy, anon?

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Interracial gay couples can’t create category five hurricanes or cause mass moronation for ten miles. Your false equivalence only goes to show your desperation.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Interracial couples didn't need to do that in order to get harassed or even attacked by racists, they just were. The X-Men took that reality and adapted it so they could tell stories about discrimination.

                Are you getting it now, you stupid fricking moron? Do I have to explain what an analogy is too?

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                But mutants actually are dangerous so the analogy falls apart. You can’t say how they’re representative of some minority group and acknowledge how one is harmless while the other isn’t.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >But mutants actually are dangerous
                Yeah, they said the same thing about interracial couples. What's your point?

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                You’re just going in circles now because I already said how they were different. But you’re refusing to acknowledge it. If you’re saying that mutants are like gays then that means that they are in fact dangerous. If they’re not then that means that having the mutants represent them is inaccurate.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >But you’re refusing to acknowledge it
                You seem the one the one in denial. Look up Loving v Virginia, read it, seethe.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >no argument
                Are they the same yes or no?

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                They are, yes. They're deemed dangerous by groups dedicated to discriminating others. The only difference is the made up powers that make it easier for kids to identify with the X-Men. Something you're incapable of understanding.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >They are, yes
                So you’re saying that a gay person is the same as someone that can level a city block all on their own? Because that’s pretty bigoted in of itself
                >inb4 strawman
                You answered the question and said they were the same I’m just pointing out what them being the same would entail.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >insists on arguing something no one ever claimed
                I think it's funny that moronic autists like you think the powers are meant to be real. Might as well be talking to a child who thinks Superman can actually, unironically fly.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                You said they are the same when I asked so you did claim it.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >y-you used the same argument to shit on the same bullshit scenario i created
                No shit.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >fricks himself over and cries about it
                If you had a problem you would have said something before instead of answering the question. Now you’re just throwing a tantrum and trying to say that it’s bullshit because you cant argue against your own words.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >cries about it
                I only see one person struggling to understand the analogy between discrimination and the X-Men, and it's your moronic ass.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >no u
                I’ve acknowledged the analogy and said it fails because they’re not alike. You ignored that until I asked a question and when I pointed out what them being the same would entail you started throwing a tantrum and saying it was bullshit like I said. You can try to waffle all you like but that’s not going to change what you said.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >because they’re not alike
                Because you literally believe the powers are real, instead of an analogy for discrimination.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >Because you literally believe the powers are real, instead of an analogy for discrimination
                No I said that the analogy would imply that the groups they are supposed to represent are actually dangerous when I reality they’re not so it falls apart. Maybe instead of seething you can actually read what was said.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >are actually dangerous
                That's what they said about interracial couples too, you stupid fricking moronic moron. The implied threat was there, they didn't need powers to be a problem for white supremacists. The latter simply wanted them gone. Are you finally getting it? Do I have to dumb it down even further?

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                So you’re just going to go in circles hoping that repeating the same points again will change the outcome. Okay, tell me are interracial couples inherently dangerous like mutants are, do they pose a threat beyond just existing?

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                NTA, but his point, I think, is that white supremacist's thought there was a danger (regardless of if there was or not) in much the same way humans in X-men assume mutants are a danger. The danger doesn't 'really' seem to matter when it comes to the hate, especially because many mutants aren't any more dangers than the average person with a gun.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >NTA
                No you’re not
                >in much the same way humans in X-men assume mutants are a danger
                Mutants are a danger, they can and have done horrible shit both on purpose and accidentally. Trying to say they’re like a minority group is acknowledging that there is credence to what the people irl say about them being dangerous. Since you know gay people can’t and don’t do the shit the mutants do on a regular basis.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                > they can and have done horrible shit both on purpose and accidentally.
                So have minorities

                >Mutants are a danger
                SOME mutants are a danger. Many are not. Leech is not a danger.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >So have minorities
                Minorities aren’t one group and don’t have the power to individually do the kind of massive damage the mutants do. One gay couple can’t level a city block or destroy a stadium. At most they’ll just piss some people off
                >SOME mutants are a danger. Many are not. Leech is not a danger
                Most of them have powers that are dangerous in of themselves whether it’s on a small or larger scale.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >Minorities aren’t one group and don’t have the power to individually do the kind of massive damage the mutants do. One gay couple can’t level a city block or destroy a stadium. At most they’ll just piss some people off
                Yeah, minorities don't have super powers. Nobody is saying minorities are just as powerful as magneto and storm, but the phrase
                >they can and have done horrible shit both on purpose and accidentally.
                Applies to both, Islamic terrorists have crashed towers, bombed subways, and stabbed innocents that doesn't mean every islamist is a danger.

                >Most of them have powers that are dangerous in of themselves whether it’s on a small or larger scale.
                I'm not even sure that is true, most seem to have wings or super hearing or something, but even accepting that it doesn't matter because the non-dangerous inoffensive ones are lumped in with the dangerous ones. Everytime Magneto does some wild shit every mutant from Xavier to Leech shares in paying the bill. I think that is where the analogy comes though, that we should judge individuals and their actions, not look at the worst of a group and lump all other's who are similar in with them.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                You can disarm a terrorist, you can prevent them from even obtaining weapons or bombs but you can't do that for mutants and even if you could temporarily block or disable powers in public life a lot of writers treat it like it's some great insult to ask a mutant to not frick around with their powers any time they want. A big problem with X-writers is that they give the characters this really fricked up lack of baseline respect for other people, like Usain Bolt isn't dead sprinting down the street bystanders be damned if he splatters you on the way to work. They're honestly closer to open carry gun nuts than minorities

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                I'm not sure what your response is to. To reiterate, nobody is saying mutants and minorities are a 1 to 1 lol, my point is that it doesn't matter if mutants were/are respectful (nightcrawler), it doesn't matter if mutants were/are harmless (leech), it doesn't matter if mutants are on our side (Xavier). In the X-men world they're still discriminated against as if they were all Magneto. This is, again, in a world where other people with super powers are literally just as dangerous as the average mutant, but aren't discriminated against because they lack an X gene. So their world =/= our world. There are normal humans who are just as powerful as any mutant, that use their powers just like an mutant, and are beloved and do well in the X-men world. The danger element isn't really a factor.

                >Applies to both, Islamic terrorists have crashed towers, bombed subways, and stabbed innocents that doesn't mean every islamist is a danger
                One (1) terrorist can’t level half a city or lobotomize people all on their own. What about this are you failing to understand, do you think that an individual that has the ability to summon a fricking tornado or mind rape people if they have a bad day should be representative of a minority? Do you think that is a healthy or normal thing to do? Because no matter how you put it that’s exactly what they are and there is no way around it. Ultimately if someone is asked “hey why do you hate gays” they won’t just say “it’s because they’re freaks” they’ll say “because Magneto can tear apart a skyscraper with his mind”.
                >Every time Magneto does some wild shit every mutant from Xavier to Leech shares in paying the bill. I think that is where the analogy comes though
                Magneto doesn’t work alone and he has a whole cadre of people backing him up, if he didn’t shit like Genosha and Krakoa wouldn’t be a thing.

                >One (1) terrorist can’t level half a city or lobotomize people all on their own. What about this are you failing to understand, do you think that an individual that has the ability to summon a fricking tornado or mind rape people if they have a bad day should be representative of a minority? Do you think that is a healthy or normal thing to do? Because no matter how you put it that’s exactly what they are and there is no way around it. Ultimately if someone is asked “hey why do you hate gays” they won’t just say “it’s because they’re freaks” they’ll say “because Magneto can tear apart a skyscraper with his mind”.
                None of this addresses my point lol. Why should leech have to live through hate because magneto and his cabal are terrorists? Answer me that.

                Genosha and Koraka were responses to an already existing turmoil lol.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >but aren't discriminated against
                But they have faced discrimination at some point, shit Spiderman alone has lived the mutant experience as an individual

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >But they have faced discrimination at some point
                Sure, but it's not their entire life for reasons outside of their control and because of the actions of others.

                >Spiderman alone has lived the mutant experience as an individual
                That's because of personal smear campaigns lol, but even in that case Spiderman is often considered to be like an honorary mutant sometimes so even he still get's it. It's not like people hate Spiderman because doc-ock blew up a building in the same way people hate cyclops because magneto went to war with humanity,

                >Why should leech have to live through hate because magneto and his cabal are terrorists? Answer me that
                Because that’s how things are, if they didn’t want Magneto and the other mutants committing atrocities they should just kill them. They would be in their right, what do they have to lose from that?

                ?Because that’s how things are
                >Why SHOULD Leech...?
                >..because that's how it IS!
                Look up is/ought and come back.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                I like how you ignored how I answered your question because you know you can’t justify why they haven’t executed magneto and his brotherhood of evil morons.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >no argument
                still haven't answered
                >Why should leech have to live through hate because magneto and his cabal are terrorists?
                It's arguably the CENTER of x-men's political themes.

                >I like how you ignored how I answered your question because you know you can’t justify why they haven’t executed magneto and his brotherhood of evil morons.
                I already DID answer it. Magneto isn't in the wrong because humanity committed atrocities against mutants first. Magneto is a RESPONSE to human kind aggressing on mutants as a class rather than dealing with individuals. Not like this is Leeches fault, but you're still running from that question lol.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                NTA but are you sure this guy isn't a bot or some Shareblue chillul hashem hasbarist? They dodge questions like pilpul punk as they use the same Likudnik Zionist talking points for Magneto.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >knows he made a shit argument
                >has to samegay to say I’m a bot to cope
                Seriously why do you morons always get so desperate whenever you frick up? How about you put down your phone, log off your computer and throw your tantrum somewhere else.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >still haven't answered
                I did right here

                >Why should leech have to live through hate because magneto and his cabal are terrorists? Answer me that
                Because that’s how things are, if they didn’t want Magneto and the other mutants committing atrocities they should just kill them. They would be in their right, what do they have to lose from that?

                and you ignored it just to deflect, how about you stop acting like a child.
                >It's arguably the CENTER of x-men's political themes
                Letting terrorists and go to continue doing terrible shit and cause them and other mutants more harm? Sound like a shitty theme.
                >I already DID answer it. Magneto isn't in the wrong because humanity committed atrocities against mutants first
                That doesn’t make it okay that just makes him a hypocrite and butthole for devolving to the level of people he claims are inferior to him.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >humanity committed atrocities against mutants first
                Very untrue. Humans didn't have a concept of 'mutants' until one dude formed an entire army to begin causing terrorist actions to undermine humanity to pave way for the mutant takeover. And he didn't even do that as specific retaliation, dude did it because he witnessed an ethnic cleansing of ordinary humans and decided from that example of humanity's barbarity that if the growing mutant population was going to survive they had to strike preemptively rather than wait to be discovered and put to the fire. Despite his claims otherwise, Magneto isn't the response to an attack on a group humanity didn't realize was appearing, he's the gun that fired the first shot declaring war on humanity. Hell, it's why Xavier founded a goddamn school to protect and train mutants, cause he was the one who stopped Magneto and his followers the first time and knew that he'd just started a war that was going to draw EVERYONE in no matter what side they were on.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >Humans didn't have a concept of 'mutants' until one dude formed an entire army to begin causing terrorist actions to undermine humanity to pave way for the mutant takeover.

                Magneto’s whole family was murdered because they saw him use his powers. Human were murdering mutants long before they even had a famous mutant terrorist to use as an scapegoat.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Not in this continuity, anon. The Magneto of the cartoon didn’t have Anya’s death as an example of how far people would go, he just pulled the trigger cause he’d already experienced the Holocaust to destroy his faith in humanity’s acceptance of an offshoot of itself. And as far as the mutant thing go, it’s semi-literal. The idea of a hidden species of humanity hiding in its own midst wasn’t given much serious thought by the public until Xavier and Magneto themselves began doing it themselves and Magneto’s declaration of war on behalf of the mutants planted the idea into the public’s mind. Till then, they were just people given the same level of shit any other mutate or non-human got for having freaky powers around the infamously skittish average Marvel civilian which has historically proven to have the common sense of a cantaloupe.

                Granted, half the time I feel it should be canon that the reason the average us citizen turns into a brain dead lunatic the moment they even hear the word “mutant” is cause Gyrich had the tap water drugged with crazy juice or something. There’s fear of the other, and then there’s passively accepting giant murder bots flying through the streets scanning for hidden israelites, we, mutants.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >Why should leech have to live through hate because magneto and his cabal are terrorists? Answer me that
                Because that’s how things are, if they didn’t want Magneto and the other mutants committing atrocities they should just kill them. They would be in their right, what do they have to lose from that?

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >but you can't do that for mutants

                You literally can. All you have to do is keep Cyclops’ eyes closed. Shut Banshee’s mouth. Kurt can’t teleport if he can’t see. Telepathy can be blocked. Bishop’s power is just to absorb and redirect energy. Mesmero needs eye contact for his powers to work otherwise he’s just a green skinned guy. Etc. etc. etc. etc. Disarming mutants is easy. Someone like Leech or Mimic or Synch can’t do shit against humans, their powers work on mutants. What inherent danger do people like Prodigy, Ugly John, a Morlock who sweats sugar water or Beak pose?

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >What inherent danger do people like Prodigy, Ugly John, a Morlock who sweats sugar water or Beak pose?

                They don't factor into the conversation about mutants because the government is interested only in controlling those with power and influence.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >Applies to both, Islamic terrorists have crashed towers, bombed subways, and stabbed innocents that doesn't mean every islamist is a danger
                One (1) terrorist can’t level half a city or lobotomize people all on their own. What about this are you failing to understand, do you think that an individual that has the ability to summon a fricking tornado or mind rape people if they have a bad day should be representative of a minority? Do you think that is a healthy or normal thing to do? Because no matter how you put it that’s exactly what they are and there is no way around it. Ultimately if someone is asked “hey why do you hate gays” they won’t just say “it’s because they’re freaks” they’ll say “because Magneto can tear apart a skyscraper with his mind”.
                >Every time Magneto does some wild shit every mutant from Xavier to Leech shares in paying the bill. I think that is where the analogy comes though
                Magneto doesn’t work alone and he has a whole cadre of people backing him up, if he didn’t shit like Genosha and Krakoa wouldn’t be a thing.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Adult men rape, steal, kill and commit genocide on a regular basis. They are all guilty of this because some men do it. I do not feel safe whenever I see an adult male because men are inherently violent and dangerous and that’s why we need to discriminate and exterminate them. They pose a clear and present danger every second they breathe. This is entirely reasonable behaviour and logic
                ;^)

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Okay, let’s say a person is discriminated against, now why is that, is it because they frick up a fundamental aspect of the current society? Challenge preconceived notions? Impede upon the status quo? No it’s because an individual is capable of creating the kind of destruction that is reserved to low-yield nuclear bombs and other individuals have abilities that make extremely effective killers, saboteurs, and spies. While the rest have some manner of strange defect or disorder that either slightly enhances their normal abilities or makes them useless at worst. Now it would make sense to be wary of the two former groups mentioned especially when they don’t want to regulate their abilities because they see it as a part of their identity and not simply some biological quirk. Then take into account that the latter group supports and stands with the formers in solidarity as they have no one else to really turn to. This creates a scenario where they lump themselves together whether they agree or disagree on certain issues and problems and exists as a problem irl with things like political parties and movements. Do you see why this is an issue? Why the mutants have such a problem and why portraying them as various minority groups creates an issue with both image and message?

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >especially when they don’t want to regulate their abilities because they see it as a part of their identity

                Motherfricker mutants are by law forced to register with the government. They are regulated. And the government actively doesn’t leave it at that but actually is plotting to kill every single mutant in the country and/or exploit them in secret military weapons projects.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                And why is that? Is it just because they’re different or because they live a life style that isn’t approved by the general public like various other minority groups? No it’s because they have to ability to frick shit up whether purposely and accidentally. This isn’t some power mad horse shit it’s ensuring that a rogue element doesn’t start wrecking shit and killing people.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                It absolutely is power madness, bigotry and hateful paranoia towards a group of people who they fear because some individuals did something bad. What you’re describing and defending is exactly the same hyperventilating paranoid big government surveillance state bullshit shit you saw after 9/11 where suddenly every single Muslim and even remotely Arab looking or sounding person was unilaterally put on watch lists, barred from flying on planes, were spied everywhere including on at their prayer houses with illegal wiretaps, etc. because just sharing a religion (or like often happened, just having a similar sounding name) with a terrorist was enough to label you as a suspected terrorist yourself.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Does it matter if even non-dangerous mutants are discriminated against?

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                You’re just going in circles now because I already said how they were different. But you’re refusing to acknowledge it. If you’re saying that mutants are like gays then that means that they are in fact dangerous. If they’re not then that means that having the mutants represent them is inaccurate.

                In addition, there are mutates who are just as dangerous but aren't discriminated against due to not being mutants. The juggernaut is more dangerous than most mutants, but he's not discriminated against.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                > The juggernaut is more dangerous than most mutants, but he's not discriminated against
                And why is that?

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                He is by dearth of people shouting “It’s the Juggernaut, the known master criminal and terrorist!”, since he’s, you know, a supervillain and thus earned that hatred unlike the majority of civilian mutants/mutates

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Does it matter if even non-dangerous mutants are discriminated against?

                You’re just going in circles now because I already said how they were different. But you’re refusing to acknowledge it. If you’re saying that mutants are like gays then that means that they are in fact dangerous. If they’re not then that means that having the mutants represent them is inaccurate.

                In addition addition, Nightcrawler isn't particularly dangerous but is discriminated against heavily. The mutant discrimination thing has nothing really to do with danger, and more to do with a perceived "other".

                If she's able to suppress her powers and not kill people with uncontrolled tornadoes, then she's able to pass as human, isn't she?

                My argument isn't that they don't "pass as human" it's that their experiences still ostracize them from the normal human experience. MOST mutants could pass as human. It's totally fine for them to feel connected to the wider mutant cause because they probably represent most mutant experiences with a lack off control of (and more importantly the very existence of) their powers being an issue irrespective of how they look or act.

                >insists on arguing something no one ever claimed
                I think it's funny that moronic autists like you think the powers are meant to be real. Might as well be talking to a child who thinks Superman can actually, unironically fly.

                I'm not sure if this us a rebut? If the juggernaut never became a criminal he'd be just as dangerous but not discriminated against. Most mutants are discriminated against regardless of their appearance or actions. Just the fact they were born with an X gene means they are others.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >Nightcrawler isn't particularly dangerous
                You mean the guy who is able to teleport around? That’s like saying that Bobby isn’t dangerous.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Being able to teleport doesn't make you dangerous in the same way being angry leads to frostbiting an entire room does.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                X-Men first class shows how dangerous his power is.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                As in "captured by the government and experimented on"?

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Not innately, but the capacity to use teleportation to pop into the POTUS’s room and blow him up is pretty spooky as frick

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >My argument isn't that they don't "pass as human"

                Then you need to go back and re-read the conversation, because mutants not passing as humans was literally the original point being argued against.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                There are two arguments happening concurrently, I'm not that other anon. I'm not saying storm doesn't pass as normal in a crowed. I'm saying IN SPITE of storm passing as human in a crowed, she still represents mutantdm because of her internal experience.

                X-Men first class shows how dangerous his power is.

                I'm speaking about TAS. I don't really care about the movies and have always disliked them.

                Not innately, but the capacity to use teleportation to pop into the POTUS’s room and blow him up is pretty spooky as frick

                Of course, but let's not pretend if Kurt couldn't teleport he'd be treated well, the mutant hate isnt predicated on danger, that's a post hoc excuse for anti-mutant actions.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                I’m not, and I’m well aware the point of his character is that he’s mistaken for a demon due to his appearance when he’s practically a saint, I’m just pointing out that fearing what he could do is valid until you get to know him and realize he’s not the kind of person who would willingly use his powers for evil

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >I'm speaking about TAS
                The potential is still there.

                As in "captured by the government and experimented on"?

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              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                It's still there for anyone, but even if I were to say fine Kurt is dangerous because he could kill a man about as easy as i could with a gun. I could just point to leech and my larger argument still stands. Which is them being dangerous doesn't matter.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                A normal person doesn’t have a gun attached to them and can only do real damage as long as he has bullets or can swing it around. Kurt can just bamf around as he pleases.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Those differences are immaterial. The fact is a gun is as dangerous for any individual as Kurt is. In fact for a crowd or large group a gun becomes significantly MORE dangerous. But like I said, it doesn't matter for the larger point lol.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                a random person can't get instant access to any vip. It's a wildly different scenario. A better argument is that within the setting some jackass who's pissed off and smart enough could create something to do similar

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >a random person can't get instant access to any vip
                Trump did steal a bunch of documents once he was out of the White House, though. And people like Kid Rock and fricking Catturd had access to top secret meetings.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Why would I care about instant access to any vip? Mutant hate is predicated on how dangerous they are to vip's, I'm some shmuck in texas, why do I hate Kurt my blue elf neighbor? Because he can kill the president? c'mon lmao.

                Can a normal person fire a gun anytime for as long as they want? Because unless they can it’s not the same.
                [...]
                See[...]

                They don't have to be the same, they just have t be similar in specific ways, and in terms of how easily someone could kill me with them they are equal, in fact a gun is better lol, I could be shot from inside my own home.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >They don't have to be the same, they just have t be similar in specific ways
                No, a gun will run out of ammo and isn’t some inherent part of a persons biology, gun can be taken away. Kurt’s powers are different just like all of the powers that the X-Men have.
                >If we've learned anything from the far right is that you can not only fire an assault rifle for as long as you need
                That has nothing to do with what I said ammunition is still a factor and a gun is not apart of normal human biology where as Kurt’s teleportation very much is apart of his.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >a gun will run out of ammo
                And Nightcrawler got shot once he was out of an exit. Your point?

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                What does that have to do with anything? Just because he is capable of being hurt that doesn’t mean he isn’t dangerous or that him and a guy with a gun are the same. He’s able to teleport at will and can frick people up just like the clip showed.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >That has nothing to do with what I said ammunition is still a factor and a gun is not apart of normal human biology where as Kurt’s teleportation very much is apart of his.
                I'm not that second anon

                >No, a gun will run out of ammo and isn’t some inherent part of a persons biology, gun can be taken away. Kurt’s powers are different just like all of the powers that the X-Men have.
                This doesn't matter lol. The POINT is that Kurt could kill me about as easily as anyone could kill me. You don't need 100 bullets and machinegun arms to kill people, You just need a handgun and a bullet... or even a knife.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >You don't need 100 bullets and machinegun arms to kill people, You just need a handgun and a bullet... or even a knife.
                That takes time and can easily be fought back, a guy teleporting around and dropping people from the sky isn’t something that you can be taught to fight in a regular self defense class.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >a guy teleporting around and dropping people from the sky isn’t something that you can be taught to fight in a regular self defense class.
                isnt, but
                >,,, a handgun and a bullet... or even a knife.
                is??
                Am I talking to a literal 9 year old?
                How is dropping 10 people from the sky quicker than gunning 10 people down?

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                > Am I talking to a literal 9 year old
                Getting about your point not holding up isn’t going to help you
                >How is dropping 10 people from the sky quicker than gunning 10 people down
                You can run from a person with a gun, you can fight and try to disarm someone with a knife. You can’t really do either of those with a guy who can teleport.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >You can run from a person with a gun, you can fight and try to disarm someone with a knife. You can’t really do either of those with a guy who can teleport.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >no argument
                I accept your concession.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >gun will run out of ammo

                And Kurt will get tired, he can’t keep teleporting endlessly. Just traveling too far is enough to knock him out.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Can a normal person fire a gun anytime for as long as they want? Because unless they can it’s not the same.

                He was still captured and experimented on by the government. His teleportation wasn't any worse than fully loaded assault rifle.

                See

                A normal person doesn’t have a gun attached to them and can only do real damage as long as he has bullets or can swing it around. Kurt can just bamf around as he pleases.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                If we've learned anything from the far right is that you can not only fire an assault rifle for as long as you need (in the case of the Uvalde massacre, you can do it without even worrying about the cops), you can even stream it for fellow racists. So no, let's not act like mass shooters are smol beans incapable of communicating their messages to the masses.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                He was still captured and experimented on by the government. His teleportation wasn't any worse than fully loaded assault rifle.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                There are millions of mutants who don’t harm people or cause problems and just want to live their lives. You’re acting like a prejudiced bigot who thinks every Muslim is a suicide bomber.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                I'm going to jump into this.

                Yes, mutants are not a monoculture, they should not be discriminated against on the basis that they're people just like any other people. The problem is that they're not just people, they are people who, for the sake of discussion, are all carrying guns and cannot be disarmed short of medication and/or jail.

                Civil society only works when there is monopolization of power in the military and the police, which is another way of saying that the citizens should not have guns. America only works today because insane gun culture is a new thing and will ultimately destroy it if it goes further than where it is now. But for every where else the reason why this system works is because the institution of the military and police ensures that violence is only in the hands of those who are trained to wield it, it means that the obvious human failings of anger don't escalate to someone pulling out a gun and shooting someone. Without guns the worst people can do to each other is kick the shit out of one another and the fact is it's really difficult to actually kill a person with only your hands and feet.

                Mutants severely undermine this social dynamic. And worse, they aren't packing guns, they have nukes. The force multiplier on mutants is well beyond what any current society should tolerate in terms of the ability for citizens to wield violence. It is a completely rational thing for society to try and maintain its monopoly on violence, which sadly actually means an institutional governmental concentration camp system. Xavier is legitimately threatening the fabric of society not giving Cerebro to the government to ensure mutants can be found before they go through puberty and nuke a city.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Cont.

                But this isn't to say Xavier's school is a bad thing. What it does demonstrate, as an analogy to our own world, is that charter schools work. They take disadvantaged children/mutants who are vulnerable to "the street" and give them a degree of care, attention, love and upbringing that exemplifies the values of society and as such, they will not have reason to nuke anything.

                What should be the central conflict in X-Men is much like the conflict in our own world. Government resources to expand charter schools, to scale Xavier's operation to the world just isn't happening. And what happens is that the highly violent children end up fricking up society enough times that people stop caring and retreat to their privileged lives. But in the case of mutants, the retreat isn't to ignoring the problem but as we see in the comics, trying to implement a concentration camp sort of system, which well, isn't great. But that's the huge problem really, mutants appeared in a time when the world and governments are still bickering. The amount of order and global peace necessary to properly embrace and integrate mutants into society isn't the world we live in. And so the solutions to control mutants must be harsh and cruel.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >mutants severely undermine this social dynamic

                This is a world where the fricking government is regularly manufacturing building sized killer robots whose sole function is to track and kill any mutant they find and outside of trained professionals like X-men mutants are not able to do jackshit against them. Humans also have the capability to damper mutant powers.

                And there’s countless human and mutate and even alien criminals with superpowers and super tech that you can’t just buy from a store committing crimes and atrocities and society hasn’t crumbled. Yet somehow mutants alone are meant to be so dangerous they all have to be put in camps simply because of a gene. It’s pure paranoia based bigotry.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Look man. The state of the world where see the X-Men is end-stage human adaptation to the presence of mutants. The killer robots, the control collars, those are all achievements that have been able to keep the fabric of American society together.

                You have to run the counterfactual here, you have to consider what it would be like if those tools were not developed. Some number of highly dangerous nameless mutants were collared or euthanized. The bigotry you see isn't a knee-jerk reaction to mutants, it's a prejudice that is obviously born from highly violent events akin to 9/11 that put the entirety of society in lock-step to act against the threat mutants pose. The development of the sentinels and control collars is a cost-effective and fast solution to the problem. Yes, it violates human rights and the constitution but the constitution also has provisions granting what are the equivalent of war powers and the mutant threat obviously rises to that level where some rights have to be suspended until the "war" is dealt with.

                The government should be working with Xavier to get his schools to scale nationwide, to transition away from the need for Sentinels. But there is no question that the Sentinels were a necessary stop-gap to prevent the mutant problem from going off the rails.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >the barrier between action and emotion falls
                You're almost there, I can feel the 2 braincells you have doing their best to grasp the concept.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >can’t say how I’m wrong or argue
                >just condescendingly hurls insults
                It’s all projection isn’t it? You have no idea what you’re talking about so you keep having to call me stupid to cope.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >based legalist confucian scholar.
                Not even. Acting like laws have zero morality behind them or morality wont influence human behavior is moronic.

            • 4 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              Define lawful

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >define lawful
                Not a Black person.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            I know 1 person irl who became Judge Holden tier after reading philosophy and realizing he doesn't value or give a frick about 99% of what society does. Now he's in jail. I absolutely do not want philosophy of all things left up to fricking government employees lmao. I'm going to end up seeing Stirner's strongest Gen A morons because their iPad brains will be too fried to listen to anything longer than do whatever lol.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        That's not what the image is saying. It's an example of begging the question by showing a bubble that assumes the contested point of a fetus's status as alive is true. Operative word is contested

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          But it doesn't use the conclusion (that abortion is wrong) to inform either the assumption that murder is wrong nor that abortion is murder. Those two assumptions logically lead to the conclusion given. It's not a fallacy.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        The argument you gave as an example is not a fallacy.

        A fetus is not a person.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      The argument you gave as an example is not a fallacy.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >Don't kill the rapist about to shove a knife into my son's butthole, please, just let my son die
        If you say so

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      That isn't begging the question. In the example given, it is assumed that abortion is murder. If you assume that murder is always wrong AND that abortion is murder then you CAN logically conclude that abortion is wrong. You can argue with those assumptions all you like, but they don't use their conclusion to FORM the assumptions, and so this is just an incorrect example.

  3. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    They were chosen by Xavier to represent mutantdom because they can pass for human and illicit sympathy and understanding, most mutants can't pass.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      It's also no coincidence that based Chuck chooses mutants who are attractive and fit; leaving the uggos to frick off to the Brotherhood or Morlocks.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        the brotherhood choose magneto, the morlocks are lumpenproletariat who would rather hide in a sewer

  4. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    they are allegory for homosexuals so on the first look they appear normal but then you see how they behave and live in gay commune

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      It's allegory for assimilation over true acceptance, it's not simply limited to just the gays, it can be applied to biracial people or children of immigrants as well.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        There's no true acceptance without assimilation. That's the rub.

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          That's not true no matter how much israeli, irish, Italian and 3rd generation Mexican Americans want to believe it so.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      So you're saying Storm and Jean have hot gay sex in the mansion and flatscans don't get to see it?

  5. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Storm and Jean in particular are on a level where they're so powerful, having emotions can affect the real world around them. Yeah they're sexy, hot women but if they didn't have any concentration they'd be unable to function as normal people.

  6. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >Just stay in the closet, gay person
    >Be content that you pass for white
    >Just pretend you’re something else to avoid discrimination, what’s the problem?

    Spoken like an entitled white straight cis male.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >Just pretend you’re something else to avoid discrimination
      What discrimination are they facing in today's world?

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        I cannot speak for him but I've had cops pull me over on my street because I was in a nice neighborhood. They even threatened to blow my brains out. I've been passed over for promotions despite working harder and being more competent than my peers. I've had a lady call the cops on me for knocking on her door. I've been called "Black person" outside of the internet. That's with being a relatively well educated dude trying to be decent. I cannot imagine what it is like for people aren't as well spoken and as educated as I am. My experience was enough to make me decide to raise my kids in Europe instead of the US, and my life has been significantly better for leaving the US.

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Post hand and timestamp.

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          All blacks in the US should move to Europe, you will be well received there.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Shouldn't have to.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >Spoken like an entitled white straight cis male.
      Spoken like an attention hungry white woman, put the real weirdos in the lead and let them voice their own grievances instead of pulling some white woman's burden shit

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >Just stop mindraping people with telepathy/blowing shit up with eyebeams
      Will the entitled wypipo ever stop keeping my muggas down?

  7. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    before things got stupid the vast majority of mutants passed as normal. One of the first lines of defense for mutant safety was anonymity. They went full moron somewhere down the line and started making more freaks instead of them being rare

  8. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I mean, when you can conjure up storms even just by accident, living a normal human existence isn't really an option.

    She also loses her powers in the episode and leaves the X-Men, which I assume means we're getting an adaptation of Life death.

  9. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    mutants are allegories for...

    gay
    black
    trannies
    muslims
    israel
    canadians

    am i missing anything else? good.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Yes, they are allegories for people that are treated poorly simply for existing. What else is new?

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        NTA and you're not wrong but the allegory falls apart when the stand-in for [persecuted minority] is a living WMD.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        What's new is chuds feel seen by X-Men and can't handle being presented as such

        NTA and you're not wrong but the allegory falls apart when the stand-in for [persecuted minority] is a living WMD.

        We let people own guns and at least mutants are registered with the government

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >at least mutants are registered with the government

          since when?

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Mutants are allegories for white people

      -ostracized
      -persecuted
      -getting genocided
      -publicly humiliated
      -the elites trying tonget rid of them
      -X-men still save everyone from trouble caused by those in charge of white genocide, I mean, mutant genocide

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >Whites are getting genocided.
        I wished.

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Your dream is coming true at the moment. We're having the darkest present. The whites (mutants) are going extinct and the US will be in shambles

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            they still aren't being genocided. At worst you can just say they're being outbred

            • 4 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              Which is just one aspect of genociding them. So, mutants will get genocided, and the US will become a mutant-free Latin America tier country

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      the french

  10. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    they symbolize college socialists acting like they are the proletariat's vanguard

  11. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Mutants should be the top, not humans that never made sense.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      If you've seen how much they war against each other for the stupidest reasons, you'd understand why they're not on top.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        can't tell if you're talking about humans or mutants

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          That was the point I was making, yes

          Why do people still till this day associate Xmen as some sort of allegory against racism or whatever? Even back when I was still a teen watching the 90s cartoon, I thought it was a moronic take. These people are walking nukes, it's the equivalent of having a bazooka attached to your arm 24/7. If you don't know them personally, of course you'll be cautious about them. And what about those who are evil and causing terror for the frick of it.

          Cause until Marvel went full moron on it, the whole mutant thing was that they were a stand-in of the "other" in society, the next generation that was out of place in the world but instrumental in shaping its outcome. And point of order, the majority of mutants up to the 90s weren't capable of changing the face of society and in fact were people who had some degree of handicap to their own powers, whether it be having to consciously control them to avoid hurting others or just being so physically bizarre that people thought of them as monsters. And really, with how few the mutants were in number and the fact that the genuinely scary as frick ones were explicitly evil buttholes like Magneto or Mastermind, it's very much easy to be on the X-men's side especially when they were more than capable of going out into public and not causing a scene. It's around the 00's when people took the wrong lessons from Grant Morrison's X-men run (and he made a number of frickups himself) that people really went full-hog on the whole racism angle while trying to downplay the whole superhero angle.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            He's right. Kurt doesn't look human at all and in the 1960s/1970s a shit load of America would be calling for him to be lynched or as a devil incarnate.

            X-Men has always had a racism allegory with Professor X formerly being a MLK figure who is right and Magneto being a Race Supremacists that is wrong.

            Mutants were never their own separate race, they are just Humans with differences caused by genetic mutation in humanity. Said mutation is not common, hence why Mutants were rare and because of their powers they needed special attention as not to hurt their fellow Humans and learn to live beside each other. A society that accepts mutants and knows how to deal with their special needs and punish bad actors was the end goal all along.

            If Mutants go extinct that is a fine ending too as long as it wasn't through the act of genocide. X-Gene just randomly triggers and mutations don't actually persist through generations unless its beneficial enough for survival OR it does nothing and manages to stick. In all the X-Men future mutants don't exist through genocide, but I'm guessing even with no genocide they wouldn't exist because they would be integrated back into regular humanity and the X-Gene would be die out or just be extremely recessive.

            I don't get how people keep missing the message, though.

            • 4 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              For what it's worth, that's the point of the scene, since even in Nightcrawler's initial appearances bad guys and his own allies were asking if he was a demon when he's practically a saint.

              And I've always questioned why Marvel is so anathema to the idea of a society that does accept mutants openly is treated like an impossibility. It's not like White or Black supremacy died just cause the US exists, so mutant supremacists and racists can and would still exist even with Xavier's dream being closer to reality.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >And I've always questioned why Marvel is so anathema to the idea of a society that does accept mutants openly is treated like an impossibility
                Because it would change the status quo of the Marvel Comic Universe. New York City has been blasted to shit, had roaming black outs that would cripple the economy, etc by superfreak Spider-Man fights or Avengers.

                Society in Marvel states should be fricking fricked to hell. Or better yet, super advanced. But you can't do that so everything is a sliding timeline matching with modernity. X-Men and Mutants being accepted would be make the rest of everything look dumb and broken. This is why X-Men should have been their own contained universe like a lot of people want.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      The X-Men and their villains don't equal all mutants
      That's like saying the Avengers should simply take over the Earth since they the strongest group on the planet

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        While you are correct the Avengers and Mutants SHOULD take over Earth because Marvel civilians are the pettiest most "cut off the nose to spite the face" types in the Universe. Just fricking evil people almost to a man

  12. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Storm is a black woman. With stark white, straight hair and bright blue eyes. She doesn't look normal.

  13. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Why do people still till this day associate Xmen as some sort of allegory against racism or whatever? Even back when I was still a teen watching the 90s cartoon, I thought it was a moronic take. These people are walking nukes, it's the equivalent of having a bazooka attached to your arm 24/7. If you don't know them personally, of course you'll be cautious about them. And what about those who are evil and causing terror for the frick of it.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >Why can’t X-men just be about pew pew pew pew I shoot lasers from my eyes?????

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >completely ignores everything I said

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      do you realize how boring the X-men series would be if there was no racism/discrimination factor to it?

      It'd be just another story of people randomly getting powers and becoming superheroes and stopping supervillains.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        No, no, I'm 100% fine with the discrimination aspect. In fact, I 100% support it because like I said, people need to be weary of every single mutant because you never know who might be an butthole or a friend. It's like living in a city where everyone around you is carrying a gun. You never know who's a psycho and who has a gun for self-defense purposes
        My issue is when people, irl not in the comic, associate mutants to real life racism or whatever. It's literally nothing like that. People, in the comic, have a solid reason of why they should be careful and skeptical around mutants. In real life, unless they personally know them and hate them, they're just hateful towards Black folk and israelites

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        eh. The actual substance and execution of the stories matters way more than the supposed narrative. X-men is currently overflowing with racism/discrimination yet it's largely dogshit. Even without the discrimination x-men still has quite the cast of characters and cool powers to work with which is what really matters

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >It'd be just another story of people randomly getting powers and becoming superheroes and stopping supervillains.
        At this point, I wouldn't mind that even in the slightest. It'd be like a sorta-serious version of Captain Carrot's Mystery Men or the Superhero League of Hoboken.

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Then go read that slop, bud. What is stopping you? Self-shame?

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Cause much as I like the Flaming Carrot, they haven't made a new one in decades.

            • 4 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              So? There's plenty of old stuff to read, you don't have to debase yourself reading "muh woke" stuff.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Anon, who exactly is saying I don't do that besides you?

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                You'll have to forgive me. Whenever I hear a homosexual crying about how good the "good ol' days" were and they can't even be bothered to read the old stuff I just have to assume they're being difficult little b***hes. Which you are, by the way.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                For what it's worth, I can live with the X-men comics being printed nowadays not being exactly the same as what I grew up with. Books change overtime, and I always have the option to just read all my favorites and ignore the present ones if I'm that opposed to what they're putting out. But I'm also of the mind that just drowning myself in nostalgia is also incredibly limiting and frankly pathetic, so I don't see the harm in saying I want more of a certain thing even when I know it's not the current marketable thing.

                That, and the Flaming Carrot is inherently meant to be a comedic take on the superhero genre, where everyone is treated as a complete joke due to how stupid and overly specific their superpowers are. I'm just saying that I think a more serious take on that, where the superheroes are capable of fighting evil despite how seemingly lame and/or limited their powersets are would be a neat read. Is that problematic?

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        I would discriminate pretty fricking hard if I knew there were people in society that just randomly got superpowers at birth that they might not be able to control.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >These people are walking nukes, it's the equivalent of having a bazooka attached to your arm 24/7.
      This is more a metatextual issue. Like, you have bigger and bigger stories right? The stakes increase, the power creep happens and then eventually boom, characters are too powerful. Wolverine didn't heal instantly and neither was he a cheap way to show how strong a bad guy is by blasting him for him to insta-heal. But power creep created that. Look at Storm, a bullet could stop Storm, she isn't bulletproof, she is omnipotent. But because this is a superhero tale and these are the main characters, she is not gonna just get straight up shot in the head. The reason I say this is a meta issue is because mutants in a way are no different than people just having a gun and capability of harming others. The "walking nukes" stuff is just a problem of superhero fiction in general because without that stuff it wouldn't be an exciting story. The problem is people take all this stuff too literally.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >she is omnipotent
        *isn't

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        It fails because it’s trying to portray people with literal super powers (some having the ability to change the fabric of reality) as being allegorical to groups and people that don’t have power or the ability to change anything on their own. It’s like if someone makes a story about Superman representing immigrants and the plight of growing up around a different culture and being discriminated against for it, but that doesn’t work because he’s Superman, you have the knowledge that nothing they say to him will matter because he is capable of ripping them apart even if you know he won’t.

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          You’re being a pedantic nitpicking butthole. Allegorical stories do not have to be perfect 1:1 representations.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            NTA, but they at least have to make fricking sense. And Xmen, as an allegory for racism and whatnot doesn't

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >some having the ability to change the fabric of reality
          That is part of what I was saying and I don't think you understood? Allegory and satire is not meant to be taken so literally, it is a part of an exploration of the themes. But fundamentally the superhero aspect comes above it. And superheroes sometimes have shit like "can change fabric of reality". The problem is you're putting allegory above everything else and then acting like it doesn't directly translate. It was never meant to do so.
          >It’s like if someone makes a story about Superman representing immigrants and the plight of growing up around a different culture and being discriminated against for it, but that doesn’t work
          Just because he has the power to do that though does not mean you can't say something about how it feels to be an immigrant. You want to hear the irony here? Superman was created by two israelites whose parents were immigrants. Do you understand the disconnect you're making? An analogy, allegory or satire can say something about a theme like racism or immigration etc without being intended to be fully realised.

          Mutants were not created to be fully allegorical.
          >Stan made them children of the atom and said he didn't want to come up with new origin stories. Them being misunderstood was similar to most Marvel heroes (Spider-Man/Hulk etc). He mentions the civil rights stuff rather retroactively as you could "see it like that".
          >Claremont really pushed the allegory but not as much as people think (there was plenty of cosmic or demonic shit too). Magneto was a clear part of this. Kitty too. It was mostly compared to racism.
          Comparing it to racism wasn't meant to directly say "this is the same thing" but we are looking at it through the prism of these characters we know and love. When Stryker points at Nightcrawler and says "you dare call that thing human," we as the audience know who Nightcrawler is and to not judge him by his appearance because of that.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            I’m not talking about it literally I’m talking about the essence of it, they’re trying to portray the powerless by giving them powers. In doing so this misses the mark of what they are from an allegorical perspective.
            >Just because he has the power to do that though does not mean you can't say something about how it feels to be an immigrant
            The point I was making and that you missed is him being portrayed as marginalized and powerless when he is the most powerful person in that scenario. Again the essence is lost as no as there can be no actual harm done to him to strike the message how or show how he is a victim.

            • 4 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              >they’re trying to portray the powerless by giving them powers.

              Their powers do not stop them from being marginalised, and attacked purely for their genetics. They are continuously being targeted for genocide even when X-men repeatedly stop evil mutants from doing bad shit and save the world.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                It literally by definition does

            • 4 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              >they’re trying to portray the powerless by giving them powers.

              Their powers do not stop them from being marginalised, and attacked purely for their genetics. They are continuously being targeted for genocide even when X-men repeatedly stop evil mutants from doing bad shit and save the world.

              It literally by definition does

              arent you two in agreement? what's the argument here?

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                My point is the allegory doesn’t work, his is that it does.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                and your position is that the allegory doesn't work because irl marginalized people lack sufficient 'power' while superman (and mutants) have power which makes the comparison so dissimilar as to make the allegory unable to work?

                What would you say to the idea that there are different forms of power? Lets say F-Power and D-Power. Irl groups have very little F-Power while superman has tons of F-Power but both groups have very little D-Power. If this were the case would the allegory now work for you?

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >It’s like if someone makes a story about Superman representing immigrants
          Superman is a fricking immigrant from space and has been judged because of that before. People have made storylines about this, anon. What a bizarre example.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Nta but despite Supes being an immigrant, in his own mind he's not one which is why it doesn't really work. Yeah he was born on Krypton but he has no memories of it himself, his memories are growing up in Kansas with Ma and Pa Kent. It's why the speech from Kill Bill, the one about how Superman is the real person and Clark Kent is his critique on the human race, falls flat and fails to understand the character (but that's Bill that doesn't understand it, Tarantino does). Yes, Superman is the real person, but deep down Superman is just the "aw shucks" boy Clark Kent. The boy who always wanted to be normal but fate said he didn't get to be.

            • 4 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              Geez Anon, pls, I didn't need the explanation, I know how Superman sees himself. But there has been times when OTHERS have judged him for being an alien. I was not talking about how he sees himself. The point is, that at times Superman has worked as an allegory for being a migrant somewhere, even if he doesn't remember it himself. He is that American dream of, it doesn't matter where you come from just what you make of yourself.

              That other anon was saying that Superman would never work as an allegory for immigration, when he has in fact been used as one before.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                I would argue Superman only works as an immigration allegory if you're very pro-assimilationist.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                I mean that is something else entirely. That is more an audience problem of media literacy, intent vs impact, death of the author or not. All that debate. I mean as has been mentioned:
                >Jerry Siegel was born on October 17, 1914, in Cleveland, Ohio, to a israeli family.[6][7] His parents were both israeli immigrants who arrived in New York in 1900, having fled antisemitism in their native Lithuania.
                >Joseph Shuster was born in Toronto to a israeli family.[6][7][8] His father, Julius Shuster (originally Shusterowich), an immigrant from Rotterdam, had a tailor shop in Toronto's garment district. His mother, Ida (Katharske), had come from Kyiv, Russian Empire (now Ukraine).
                Both his creators were from immigrant families. Assimilation is a factor, sure. But then someone like Lex always sees Superman as an other or an alien no matter what he does. So it goes beyond just assimilation to other themes to do with it. The point is Superman has been used for an immigration allegory in stories. I feel like far too many of you get muddled up by something using these themes.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >Joseph Shuster was born in Toronto
                Nothing else had to be stated past this point. He already has the sin of being, may Allah forgive me for uttering this word, Canadian.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Wolverine is worse than a mutant too, he is a fellow canuck

            • 4 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              >in his own mind he's not one which is why it doesn't really work

              Except in old stories he has adopted Kryptonian customs and cherishes the culture in limited ways he is capable of. Because he has no memories of them himself and was raised on Earth Superman’s immigrat identity is like those of second, third etc. generations of immigrants. It doesn’t invalidate anything, just changes how their roots and immigrant background is handled and depicted.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >Except in old stories he has adopted Kryptonian customs and cherishes the culture in limited ways he is capable of.
                Yeah but that always came across as that guy you know who found out he's 1/64th Cherokee and now has to start proclaiming it everywhere.

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          A kid can watch an X-Men cartoon and get the simple lesson of "maybe don't judge people by the way they look".

          An adult will watch it and be like "yeah they should have lynched the freak, he does have fricking crazy abilities".

          Which do you think was intended?

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >it's the equivalent of having a bazooka attached to your arm
      2nd amendment you fricking commie

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >westoids yet again jerking off their firearms
        It's one thing if you're carrying a gun and it's completely another matter if you're carrying a literal nuke with you to schools

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          shall not be infringed

  14. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Because they're buttholes. They're self important douche bag buttholes who decided early on they wanted to be king of the mountain.

  15. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >The weather god and the psychic are crying over not being human
    Oh brother…

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      This reminds me of that fan comic where all the human looking ones say that shit and it pans to all the inhuman looking ones like beast.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      This reminds me of that fan comic where all the human looking ones say that shit and it pans to all the inhuman looking ones like beast.

      I thought mutants were human. Even the Sentinels admit it.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        No, the logic Sentinels come up with is that humans create mutants, so to get rid of mutants, they also need to get rid of people.

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Not quite. They're 100% right, mutants are genetically a sub-breed of humanity, so they are in all technical sense humans. But yeah, they also extrapolated that to mean in order to stop mutants from being born and/or causing trouble, they need to plug up the source of said mutants that being the rest of humanity.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      This reminds me of that fan comic where all the human looking ones say that shit and it pans to all the inhuman looking ones like beast.

      https://i.imgur.com/16wj9p8.png

      Why do the X-men presume to represent mutantkind when the majority of them can pass as regular humans?

      I answered this in another thread.
      >TBF, externally you're right, if she pretended to be human nobody would ever bother her. Internally however the constant grip of control she has to have on her powers and the extrasensory perception it provides her means her personal lived experience is probably different from ours, and probably very taxing day to day.
      >Like, neither you nor I knows what it feels like to feel sad but have to temper that sadness because it could bleed into a flash flood and kill dozens of people, in no way is that a normal human experience.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        The point isn’t about that they’re not mutants it’s that there are other mutants that live lives that are actually fricking horrid on a regular basis and not just occasional dramatic woe is me horseshit. Beast can’t live a normal life. He can’t just go into society on his own.

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          and MY point is that their life (especially had they not gone to professor X to master their powers) would have been horrid as well. Jean without training would be walking around mind raping everyone in a 10 mile radius. Storm without training would be a LITERAL walking natural disaster.

          You're looking at heir situation from such a surface level

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            hey don't compare Storm to that frickup Jean. Storm was pretty good with her powers even as a kid

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            No I’m looking at it as a bunch of people in a fricking mansion and the ability to move freely crying about how hard their lives are when they’re able to live normal live and even be fricking worshipped by people.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous
  16. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Also, how did the doctor know Jean and Logan were mutants? Did he recognize them as X-Men members?

  17. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >Be mutant
    >Can pass as human no problem
    >All you have to do is NOT abuse your powers
    >FIRST FRICKING THING THEY DO IS ABUSE THEIR POWERS
    >"waaah why dies everyone hate me, I only read their minds and uncovered their deepest darkest secrets"

    Why are mutants to egotistic.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >>Can pass as human no problem
      You guys keep making these epic meme posts but there's already a post in the thread that claims a black woman with white hair is not "normal".

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        about as normal as a black woman with blonde, purple, or red hair. Uncommon but nobody is going to make a big deal about it

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >but nobody is going to make a big deal about it
          lmao look at your local conservative factions and try again.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >What the frick is "hare die"?
        That's (You).

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          see

          >but nobody is going to make a big deal about it
          lmao look at your local conservative factions and try again.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            As in she could dye it black, anon.

            • 4 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              Why would she? I thought they could pass off as human. Did you not check with the other poltards?

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Today's been a weird day, full of idiots like you putting words and ideas in my mouth.

                If we add you to the other morons from other threads, today I'm a poltard communist woke dyke gay Nazi Black person chud who wants to make every piece of media full of straight white men with huge breasts and fat asses who are also black LGBTQWERTY danger hair BLM troonys.

                Maybe stop shitting on someone for mentioning the existence of hair dye, you sperg.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                I'm not going to bother with your word salad. I'm just going to assume you gave up.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Oh, you're THAT gay. I recognize you now. Your writing style is too consistent for you to pretend to be someone else.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >DUDE ITS YOU (the anonymous poster i cant identify)
                Man, if you can't even argue just exit the thread. This is sad.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        It's called hair Dye Storm can't be this stupid to not lie and just say I dye my hair white, she either is this stupid or she wants to be known as a Mutant to validate her existence as one

        >Normie: Wow why is you hair white?
        >Storm: I dye it
        >Normie: Oh cool it looks good on you
        >Storm: Thanks

        What actually happens

        >Normie: Wow why is your hair white?
        >Storm: WHY ARE YOU ATTACKING ME THUNDER AND LIGHTNING STRIKE DOWN THE MUTIPHOBE FOR QUESTIONING MY SUPERIORITY
        >Normie: wait wha- aaaaaaaaaaaahyyyyy!!!

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >he thinks conservatives ask about hair dye
          >he thinks conservatives accept dyed hair as "natural"

  18. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Cinemaphile would support sentinels on every street corner huh

  19. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Didnt this happen in x men evolution with Spyke? He was able to pass as a human but fricks up himself and cries he can’t pass anymore

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Yes I always thought he was being a dumbass since night crawler and beast can’t pass for human either but muh Gatorade

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      They utterly ruined a good original character with that story line

  20. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Idiotic statement.

    Storm can’t hide her powers. Her powers are emotion and thought based. One tear and she’d flood a city.
    Jean can fly. She’d be levitating or accidentally fry someone’s brain
    Cyclops needed special glasses to be able to function.
    Wolverine releases his claws everytime hes angry
    Morph has to flex a muscle just to look human
    Gambit has black and red eyes
    Rogue can accidentally kill people
    And Jubilee is a walking fire cracker.

    None of these people can pass off as human.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >Storm: Can just walk on the ground openly
      >Jean: Can also walk on the ground openly
      >Cyclops: Can tell people he has eye condition where he can't take off his glasses
      >Wolverine: Can opt to not pop his claws or just blame it on being Canadian
      >Gambit: Doesn't freak anyone out with his weird eyes or could opt to wear fake glasses
      >Rogue: Wears gloves and covering clothing
      >Jubilee: Can walk around without popping off fireworks everywhere

      Should have stuck with fricking Beast or Morph with his default look, and even then Morph could choose to look like anyone he wants

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        : Can just walk on the ground openly
        If you think Storm can just choose not to feel the elements around her you're even dumber than the average MCU fan.

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Oh goodness me, I didn’t know she couldn’t move her fricking legs and was crippled like Professor X
          >can just choose not to feel the elements around her
          We got that power too, bud, it’s called SKIN

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >he unironically believes he can control the elements because his skin feels something
            So not only are you arguing on bad faith, you actually believe your sense of touch is akin to that of a mutant capable of controlling the weather.

            Are you clinically moronic or just trying really hard?

            • 4 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              You’re the one using shitty analogies like “can feel the elements”. Point is, Storm has the option to not use her powers while in the city and has in the previous show opted not to many times. She’s not like the Hulk where she can’t control her powers at all, she has the choice and the training to ensure it’s a choice. That she compares not actively controlling the weather to “being human” is a sign of hubris, not sadness, since none of her other friends can control the weather either and they aren’t less human for it either. Is Spider-Man somehow a cripple if he’s forced to use the subway one day instead of swinging around, or would we call him an butthole for whining about having to use the subway like any other jackoff?

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >Storm has the option to not use her powers
                Literally not the case, as she can feel the elements around her and she's in constant communication with rain, thunder and storms. We've seen this a million times in both comics and cartoons. You're simply too fricking stupid to enjoy the comic books you've read since you were a child because nowadays you're a conservagay.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                It is the case, homosexual. The fact that Storm isn't at all times surrounded by a hurricane proves objectively that you are wrong, a homosexual, and a wrong homosexual. A wraggot.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >she can feel the elements
                >OH SHE HAS HURRICANE WINDS ALL OVER HER AT ALL TIMES???
                If there's anything worse than a dumb c**t is a dumb ESL c**t trying to impress the rest of the thread.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Dude, you’re phrasing it like she can’t function without calling a massive hurricane every day when that’s never been the case, like she’ll somehow die if she doesn’t drown a village every few hours. That’s the thing people are pointing out she has control over, the active psychic control and manipulation of the local weather changes, not the fact she can passively sense weather conditions at all. I think YOU really need to evaluate how stupid you sound here.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >Dude, you’re phrasing it like she can’t function without calling a massive hurricane every day when that’s never been the case
                Literally read any comic book in which mutants have lost their powers, you stupid fricking moron.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                I did, that’s not how they worked, and you can suck a duck, good day sir

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >that’s not how they worked
                It's always worked like that, and now you're just coping. Last (You), pussy.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                They have no argument anon, all they can do is pretend not to understand. It's sad really.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >samegayging to feel better about yourself

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                projection AND cope, impressive if not predictable.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >Dude, you’re phrasing it like she can’t function without calling a massive hurricane every day when that’s never been the case, like she’ll somehow die if she doesn’t drown a village every few hours.
                But that's purely due to her constantly repressing herself. It's like raven from teen titans. Her having to repress herself because not doing so ends up in people dead is not the same as a normal person having to repress themselves because it might be so vague social faux pas

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                If she's able to suppress her powers and not kill people with uncontrolled tornadoes, then she's able to pass as human, isn't she?

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                see

                Storm is a black woman. With stark white, straight hair and bright blue eyes. She doesn't look normal.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                You're a moron that's never met a black woman.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Why is it a sign of hubris? Why is wanting to not have the responsibility of killing hundreds because you're on your period not a valid desire? How is having to ignore road-rage because just getting angry equates to a hurricane not ostracizing? There's an episode in the original series where Jubilee even asks Storm how she constantly represses herself because doing so seems crazy to her lol.

                >can’t say how I’m wrong or argue
                >just condescendingly hurls insults
                It’s all projection isn’t it? You have no idea what you’re talking about so you keep having to call me stupid to cope.

                I've done all I can for you. You have no argument, no point, no evidence, and clearly no brain. All you can do is parrot "c-cope!, s-seethe!" like a dumbass. cease replying to me you absolute waste of my time, you can call it me coping if it makes you feel better too.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                If you thought this was a waste of time you wouldn’t have replied, you’re just hurling whatever you can to make it seem like you’re not upset while also deflecting so you don’t have to give an argument because you don’t have one. What’s next are you going to smugly say you’re done next before running away with your tail between your legs?

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Don't bother, anon. It's one moronic troll fricking around like he knows what he's talking about. The same gay was in the 40k thread pretending to be a hardcore fan of that. I've stopped replying to him, and so should you.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Well, lesson learned, thanks for the late warning

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Your making it seam like Storm is a tweaker who needs to get off by causing some kind to weather mishap cause she is addicted to it

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >y-youre making it sound like mutant powers are more complicated than i thought!!
            That should probably clue you in into how fricking stupid you are.

            • 4 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              So Storm is a tweaker who gets off to causing weather mishaps?

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          So your position is that since she can feel the elements, she MUST be flying and shooting lightning at all times?

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Yes, you stupid fricking moron. If you can feel the elements and you're capable of flying, why the frick would you choose not to? So you can please the normies? Do you even do that as a normal human being, you fricking troglodyte?

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        You too belong on the shortbus.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >Storm can’t hide her powers.
      She absolutely can. Her powers aren't uncontrolled, they don't just randomly trigger.
      >Jean can fly.
      She can also not fly.
      >Cyclops needed special glasses to be able to function.
      Red sunglasses.
      >Wolverine releases his claws everytime hes angry
      Wolverine's claws don't come out on their own.
      >Gambit has black and red eyes
      He can put on sunglasses if he wants.
      >Rogue can accidentally kill people
      Only with direct and prolonged skin-on-skin contact. Oh no, she has to wear gloves!
      >Jubilee is a walking fire cracker.
      Jubilee isn't constantly and uncontrollably emitting sparks.
      >None of these people can pass off as human.
      You are certifiably, objectively, utterly a complete fricking moron.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Sir, all of these are literally because they had to train since they were teenagers to fully control there powers. I’m talking about them trying to grow up with these powers.

        Cyclops: Every kid in the neighborhood would know about the kid that killed little Timmy because he accidentally looked at him.

        Storm Didn’t have full or good control of her powers before the X-men it’s been mentioned before in early comics, she would cause rain and bad storms all the time people would see her as bad luck or a fricking Djinn

        Rogue is a conventionally attractive woman both in her teens and as a Woman any guy she ever kissed or dated is dead. How could she get job? How could she interact with people? Cover her whole body with clothing but, her face is still exposed? Is she gonna convert to Muslim and wear a Hijabi? Be for real

        Jean Grey if she was not given training could cause brain damage. And she’s apart of the Phoenix force one day when she turns 23 or 35 a Giant flaming Phoenix is going go into her and she’s going to cause a Nuclear disaster
        I don’t need to mention Beast or Morph you should get it
        Wolverine IS COMPLETELY EMOTION BASED ON HIS CLAWS before he was trained, he accidentally killed his GF remember

        Gambit is just gonna wear Sunglasses for the rest of his life? There’s never gonna be a time in his 26 years of living someone won’t see this sexy motherfricker with no sunglasses? Lol
        Jubilee again, IN THE FIRST EPISODE was a walking Fire Cracker. Rewatch the first fricking episode moron

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      asking them to not do all that it's like asking a gay to not prance around shouting how much he likes to suck wiener. apparently thegay writer can't do such thing so he thinks mutants can't just be discreet

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Could you convince a gay guy to frick pussy just because it's "natural"?

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          they did for centuries

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >he thinks those people were "straight"
            >he thinks those people weren't have gay sex anyway
            lol

            • 4 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              What's your point? They still convinced gay people to frick pussy

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >What's your point?
                That they never stopped having gay sex, moron. They were most definitely not straight by any measure of the word.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >Could you convince a gay guy to frick pussy
                >answer is yes
                >move the goalposts to a totally different point

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >gay guy keeps fricking men
                >"that means he's fixed!"
                Let me guess: your dad made some promises to your mom, broke them and this is your way of coping about it.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >doesn't know what isolated priests gathered in remote areas
            >ignores the part about females joining nunneries
            >buddhists had vows of celibacy

            they just became religious. that's how the churches and religions kept power, they just made sure society was sexually repressed. they still do that today.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Wolverine will never pass. But that's because of the hairdo.

  21. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    YOU DON'T GET IT, IT'S AN ANALOGY OF RACISM AND HOMOSEXUALITY, THEY GET PERSECUTED AND DISCRIMINATED. GODDAMN YOU CHUDS ARE MEDIA ILLITERATES

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Except the X-Men have supermodel looks and are walking disaster zones.

  22. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >I wonder what it's like to be human
    >Loses powers
    >Throws a tantrum

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >Lose a core part of your identity
      >Feel depressed

  23. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    mutants as side show attractions wasn't supposed to be a main feature of them
    even in claremont the ones who couldn't pass as humans were still less common

  24. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous
  25. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    All mutants could pass for human
    Beast had spinal/appendage deformities before transforming himself blue and the Morlocks were made ugly by Caliban as an initiation rite.
    Actually ugly mutants don’t appear until Morrison retconned them in to make the human vs ugly mutant split a thing for his mutants as a society concept.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >by Caliban
      by Masque, and that's only after he takes over and deformed everyone left from Mutant Massacre.

  26. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >Cries about feeling human
    >Loses powers and becomes no different than an average human
    >Runs away saying that they can't be with the X-Men and co-exist with them as a tactical leader or still their lomgtime friend.
    Because Xavier & Magneto and their various goylems are lying Zionist expies. They always saw themselves as a master race and once their high horse powers are removed, they cuck out like a b***h.

  27. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Also, how is someone so dumb as to bring up Genosha? In the show it was a puppet nation made to enslave mutants who went there to build walking death machines that was won back via a mutant civil war. I think it's clear I've hit the bottom of the argument here, which is there is none.
    /thread

  28. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    It’s literally Beasts own fault he’s blue and furry. His mutation was agility and large hands and feet

  29. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    142807490

    You're a moron and trying to (unsuccessfully) shift the goalposts every time your b***h ass makes a fool of yourself doesn't cover up the fact that you are, in fact, a crayon-eating moron. Also, no more (you)s for you, moron.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      lmfao, yeah that guy is criminally stupid. It's been funny watching him get his ass handed to him

  30. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    It's always been fricking stupid because someone born with a sixth finger would not be a human

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      You can just tell people that mutation was due to living near a toxic waste dump, not the X-gene

  31. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    How are mutants repressed when they have superpowers. That's like saying its racist to be against a race that could turn into giant cannibals. The discrimination angle fails when there are very real differences between groups.

  32. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >in modern xmen comics they have their own island nation, are one of the most powerful nations on earth, have constant orgies, threaten other countries, and if killed can respawn as a clone out of a big flower thing

    >but they still complain about being oppressed

  33. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    But i thought they are humans though? Its the x-gene that made them mutants

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Yeah, they are still humans, but it's just easier to separate them from regular humans by calling them mutants and treating them as a different species.

  34. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Because it doesn't matter how hot you are, one day they will force you to register or scan you or send a Sentinel at you

  35. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Because racists look beyond looks. Take israelites for instance. They're as white as they come

  36. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Poeple have pointed this out literally forever. Like people have said about the infamous "there's nothing wrong with us" line in X-3, it's the literal reincarnation of a goddess with the body of Halle Barry telling someone who kills via touch that they should accept who they are.

  37. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    The most unbelievable thing about Professor X is he never early on thought to implant in everyone's heads the idea that he's always had hair and that's what they see. Just a glorious mane of hockey hair.
    That's it, that would be the one thing he abuses his powers for.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I remember in the comics when talking about Madelyne Pryor, Xavier says he can't read everyone's mind. He also mentions how he can't fully implant thoughts in people's heads because some people can stop that or they will eventually get out of it.

      And if it is something as unbelievable as him having swaying locks, no one is gonna believe that shit

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Being someone that actually has hair that magnificent, Magneto would call him out on that shit any chance he got.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        How does a man in his 60s have fricking Conan the Barbarian hair?

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          He was turned into a baby at one point, then aged up again and also magnetism ain't gotta explain shit is the explanation.

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Secondary mutation.

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          It's called not having crap genetics.

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          probably the same reason he's absolutely jacked.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            That can be explained with a combination of staying in shape and at that age, testosterone replacement therapy. Same reason Ernie Hudson still looks amazing despite being almost 80. Yeah, TRT has a higher risk of heart problems, but it also means getting to live your twilight years still in your physical prime.

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous
        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Did you start balding in your teens?

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