Why do they still sell blu-rays and especially DVDs? I doubt anyone is buying them. They're only delaying the inevitable.
Why do they still sell blu-rays and especially DVDs? I doubt anyone is buying them. They're only delaying the inevitable.
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I still buy them from thriftstores
I don't think the movie studios get money from those kinds of sales
The product is already made and whatever it made from theater tickets/streaming services won't disappear. it's free money to make it into blu rays, no reason not to.
I'm saying I don't think they get money if you buy a blu ray or dvd used. You said thrift store so I assume it was used.
Who gives a fuck you gay?
my original question was why do they still push physical movies. I'm curious if they make that much money off them because I fee like no one is buying them.
your answer is literally right here
They got their money when somebody bought it brand new from the retail store.
Actually they got their money when they sold 10,000 copies each to Amazon, Walmart, Tesco, etc.
based and sovlpilled
I buy boutique blu rays from Vinegar Syndrome and Severin and Arrow and occasionally Criterion. I also collect American western films to an autistic degree
>I also collect American western films to an autistic degree
Based. Please tell me you have War Wagon in your collection.
Because there is a solid market - even if it's a minority compared to digital sales/rentals/streaming - for physical media, one that's less casual and more inclined to spend big money for the benefit of having the best possible version of something (in the case of BDs ofc).
DVD sales still trump BD and UHD because swathes of older generations/normies don't have an eye for PQ coupled with the fact that every household has something that plays them, as opposed to BD players.
Neither are going anywhere any time soon, the market is just shifting a bit is all. And if you at all cared about film preservation and building a library, you would hope it lives forever.
>Because there is a solid market - even if it's a minority
That's too complex for Cinemaphile, we only deal in binaries here, it's either the best selling thing in the world or it's dead and makes literally no money.
Only based comment in this thread
according to some random youtube video they make a lot off of them in international markets so yea
I don't have enough storage space to just have a bunch of 150GB movies laying around
>150GB
all you need is a good rip in whatever resolution your display is and HDR. Those 50+ GB torrents are bloatware and you're a jackass if you download them.
HDR is a meme.
>t. 4k Projector owner
>boomer doesnt know about megapacks
zoomer here. whats that?
Clean out a guest bedroom or something. There's always room.
japan anime industry, also blu-ray didin't hit it, worse image quality, less extra, less disc, less easter eggs.
blu-ray was a mistake.
at least DVD is cheap and full of extra content.
Retarded and wrong on every account. Paying for 480p content in 2022 is embarassing behavior.
>blu-ray was a mistake
How’s about the HD-DVD Failure back then? Or the UHD 4K blu ray Now?
HDDVD > BluRay by a fucking mile. Especially when it came to audio. It's unfortunate that is collapsed, but I still have my collection of a dozen or so HDDVDs and my xbox 360 with the add-on HDDVD player somewhere in storage.
I heard that HD-DVD has disc rot, Is that true?
All discs can get that. Especially cheap discs that are stored in poor conditions.
All disc based media will eventually get disc rot, however Warner HD-DVDs were particularly bad with it. I doubt my Matrix Trilogy still works, but that's the only Warner HDDVDs I had.
I've heard disc rot is a manufacturing problem so either a disc has it or it doesn't
Apparently it's mainly Warner Bros. HD DVDs that suffer from rot. Almost definitely an issue at their manufacturing plant.
It can be a crapshoot, I have Laserdiscs from the early '80s with zero rot but other times I get sealed coasters.
Warner Bros always had that issue. I remember as far back as laserdisc there movies had issues with rotting way earlier than intended
Maybe people would buy them if they weren't $25
no thanks
I still buy kinos on blu ray
I have a coworker who buys shitloads of dvds still. It seems like she's keeping fye afloat with the thousands she spends there
>I doubt anyone is buying them
if they sell it then someone is buying. it's not rocket science. it's not like retailers would sell movies just for lulz to loose shit load of money
only buy 3D BR shot native 3D for the rig, nothing else, Dredd is my demo/show off disc.
bitch finding quality 3Dtorrents
Also buy 3D-Blurays. Favor vintage shlock like Flesh for Frankenstein, Creature from the Black Lagoon, Treasure of the 4 Crowns, The Mad Magician, Friday the 13th part 3.
overseas buyers
I buy my favorites but anything else is just disposable entertainment that I pirate
as you should
i don’t want to stream all the time or buy multiple streaming services. it’s Quicker and convenient to watch on dvd
My parents. They still refuse to figure out streaming services or iptv so they just watch cable and get dvds. They even have a blu-ray player but they still get dvds over blu-ray since they always are worried the blu-rays won't work no matter how many times I tell them
High-quality Laserdisc releases were coming out for every major Hollywood movie up through 2000, even though practically nobody bought them. They had a faithful market of collectors. Why is it that people these days think a product or line of products should be immediately discontinued once the majority of people stop using it?
Solipsism/narcissism
Because investing thousands of dollars to sell about 500 copies tops isnt worth the disc the movie is printed on
Because they're retards who were brought up on the retarded hyperbolic all or nothing internet environment, where nothing matters if it's not trending.
that artwork looks like shit
>he thinks the streaming selection will still be there during WWIII
expect anime to be banned outright in the next ten years, along with a shitload of your favourite films
Because I like owning my own media, not fucking renting it.
>Because I like owning my own media,
why?
because ownership is based
Once you have watched it it's just a paperweight.
it sounds like you get bored easily
Thats why you only buy what you really like
Blu-rays are antiquated now? I never even hopped on that wagon. I was buying regular DVDs as recently as 2012.
I do sometimes
I would've bought more blurays if they weren't significantly more expensive for an uplift in image sharpness that I don't have big enough of a tv for. And bluray players were expensive early on. My entire movie library is DVDs.
The price lowers in a year or two
I still buy blurays of movies I like so that I can watch them at any time. Can't do that with the way stuff comes and goes from streaming.
you can if you torrent the movie
You can't watch a torrent on your big screen TV without the hassle of hooking up a computer to it.
that is not true. there are several ways and before you start bitching no they're not complicated. the easiest would be to torrent them to an external drive and plug that drive into the tv
>torrent them to an external drive and plug
YAWN
stream them from a home server.
Torrents are illegal, criminals.
>You can't watch a torrent on your big screen TV without the hassle of hooking up a computer to it.
newfag
I have a mini PC. Quiet, low power use, 4k support. I don't use a game console or media box for watching stuff since the Mii PC does that job. It also has solid state memory so it boots and loads fast, and I don't use it for games or other stuff besides media.
Buddy, it's 2022.
I can stream my PC desktop to my TV in 4k via bullshit smart app technology with less than 10ms delay which is irrelevant even when gaming.
TV technology has become absolutely insane in the last decade.
Are you burning pirated 4k kinos to disks? Because for the time it takes to burn a 4k movie to a disk($5), I'd rather just buy it on eBay.
>I can stream my PC desktop to my TV in 4k
>stream my PC desktop
>stream
You can still stream from your PC via an optical drive, stupid. What you mean to say is that you've got an external HDD/SSH. How big is it?
>What you mean to say is that you've got an external HDD/SSH
No you moron, what I meant to say is exacrtly what I said. I have a program I downloaded on my PC that lets me stream my desktop to my TV wirelessly with practically zero lag at up to 4k resolution. I'm able to do this because I live in the year 2022 where TVs have become stupidly more advanced than just a video output with some speakers.
I have 3x 2TB M2 SSDs and a 2x 2TB SATA SSDs for harddrives. I'm not running out of room anytime soon, as I'd need over 1250 hours of 4k DVDs/footage before storage would start to be an issue, and I'm not a hoarder of shit I torrented.
Most TVs have a USB port for portable external hard drives
retard
>not owning a TV that is also a computer
How do you watch Netflix? By plugging in your laptop?
PS5
I almost thought for a second this was a joke and we weren't that many generations in.
Has the current gen actually excused its existence yet or is it still running on ports of PC and last gen games?
I buy 4ks of movies I especially want to rewatch, they are worth it if you have a really good television, 4k player and surround system, which I do. Much better experience than streams or anything else.
Blu-ray has better bitrates than streams. 35Mbps on BD vs 15Mbps on a Web-DL is pretty common.
Particularly on older films with lots of grain a Blu-ray release really helps.
I can still use my portable DVD player after SHTF and you have become some morons sex slave in a CHOP zone
I still buy DVDs because I own a DVD player. It's nice to get extra content sometimes or to just have easy access to a movie rather than tracking it down on streaming or pirating it.
I wish torrent uploaders would upload more behind the scenes and special features. I get why they dont but I would greatly enjoy and appreciate that kinda stuff
Full discs might be available on private trackers, but they're usually dead on public trackers unless it's a new movie. Rutracker has a surprising number of healthy full disc torrents.
If you're looking for them try tags like DVD5, DVD9, BD25, BD50 etc.
It's up to the retailer which audio codec they use. DTS HD-MA is pretty much the standard on Blu-ray and that's lossless.
>Rutracker has a surprising number of healthy full disc torrents.
In response to all ~~*the studios*~~ refusing to release movies in Russia because of muh ookraine, the government has legalised piracy. What a time to be alive.
Yeah because if there's anyone who was unwavering in their fight against pieacy, it was Russians, lmao.
A ton do. If I like the movie that much I buy it though, I usually delete them because it's annoying to categorize them on my media server and it usually shows up in dumb places.
You'll often find those on youtube because the rightsholders don't really care to protect them.
Best price for a Bluray is around $10. It's the price of a ticket admission. $20 for a Criterion or Arrow with special features is fine.
Bonus for a digital code.
4k discs are overpriced tho. Usually nearly $40 for a single movie while you can collections for films for $30.
I wait for them to go on sale. I got starship troopers 4k for like $10 or something. I dont pay over $18 for them but some simply never go on sale because the transfer is so highly regarded like original matrix.
I only get movies I really like. I have about 10 total. The 4k/blu ray 2001 a Space Odyssey is worth the money.
Blurays are still good and lots of people still have dvd players
FUCK YOU gay
FUCK YOU
I hope you get screwed over by the streaming service you sub to, you cuck
>especially DVDs?
Literally everyone and their grandmother has an HD TV at this point and the super serious AV enthusiasts have 4k setups so DVDs should be forcibly discontinued
I was a buychad but I recently got a NAS with 12T capacity that contains all of my worthwhile and rare movies/series. I sold most of my physical media and will throw the rest in the trash.
With Plex (and automated backups) it's basically my personal Netflix.
Costs them literal pennies to make, even selling a few puts them in profit.
There's no supply without demand. Boomers, parents who buy blurays/DVDs for their children to (re)watch their fav movies/shows and collectors still buy them.
The boutique label market (Severin, Shout Factory, Criterion, Arrow etc) is particularly thriving and lucrative because the releases offer lot of stuff streaming doesn't.
I fucking loathe digital media
Are blu-rays for older movies (pre-2000?) worth buying? I always see people complaining about how some blu-ray releases end up degrading the quality of some movies or tv shows. Grain removal that looks bad, cropping to make something 16:9 when it was originally 4:3, etc.
Seinfeld comes to mind. Also Dragon Ball Z. Don't know if there's any other controversial releases.
If I'm going to drop full-price on a new blu ray and it's not on a boutique label that always does good work I'll look it up on blu-ray.com to see whether the autistbros on there say it's a good transfer or not. These days most new releases are good transfers, but back in the early days of the format a lot of studios just shoved the DVD video onto blu ray disks to cash in on the market.
Yeah I'm glad I wasn't in the market then. I pirated then and now but I started doing blu ray and 4k fairly recently and see all the old stories about how terrible some of the crap was even for major releases like terminator 2
Lots of Disney animated movies, especially the 60s and 70s ones, have gotten terrible remasters.
I buy BD and 4K BD regularly. Especially the Criterion collection. High quality permanent access to the art I enjoy.
>Why do they still sell blu-rays and especially DVDs? I doubt anyone is buying them.
How retarded do you have to be to type such a sentence? You're right, they're publishing every movie in Blu-ray at a loss, for no discernable reason.
I do not belong to the school of thought that says someone somewhere else should own access to the thing that I've bought.
I mostly buy second hand off eBay, though not exclusively: the 4 disk Dawn of the Dead set is new off Amazon. These are what's arrived today and yesterday.
I haven't added the weekends' additions to the shelves so nothing new here tho
Is that the original dawn of the dead or the remake? Im not finding a collectors set anywhere
It's the original, the UK Second Sight release which includes the theatrical, cannes and argento cuts:
https://www.blu-ray.com/movies/Dawn-of-the-Dead-Blu-ray/284601/
Looks like the original one
Those 15/18/PG stickers suck donkey ass
Some people want tangible copies of things. If this civilization ever collapses everything will be lost. They will know nothing of our current time line. I guess that explains the simulation.
Boomers buy them because they are too lazy to learn how to use a computer
Collector's editions are often very appealing in form and content
That looks garish, like it was designed for the Arab sheikh version of the Monopoly Man.
It's in line with the movie's aesthetics and it's been personally overseen by Refn: Drive is a deliberately aspirational movie, it represents/foreshadows similar visuals from synthwave/phonk videos etc
this mindset is killing the medium and empowering cancerous bullshit like streaming services
I occasionally buy something from the 5 dollar bin at walmart
those bins are where toxic waste is offered up in the hopes that someone buys it
I've bought a ton of clint eastwood and old war movies from those bins, and nowadays the feature a lot of actual movies. Last time I got Hateful 8 and a Mummy/Mummy Returns double feature.
People still like physical media and hoarding shit in general so theres the draw.
I always buy physical versions of all my kinos.
I just buy a LOT less (barely any) because they literally and genuinely don't make kino anymore (it's basically a felony to make kino, unironically).
I like the extras, commentaries & the AV quality. I don't care if physical media will die, I still want every James Bond, Kubrick, Nolan, un-PC comedy TV show, on disc.
For me it's Criterion Laserdiscs.
I don't rewatch the same movies over and over so there's no reason to buy a DVD of a movie I might watch once or twice in my whole life.
Anyone else here use Blu-Ray.com's message boards? Super chill and incredibly informative, I rarely make a purchase without checking what the guys there have to say about it first re; PQ, encode, etc.
Being around a bunch of middle-aged boomers with endless cash to burn is pretty comfy, and they really know their shit. Good place to find deals and even get free stuff if you get involved with the community
if i need to make a quick purchase, I trust their review ratings
As for the boards, it's a bit too autsitic for me. I only ever chime in/lurk if I have a q about editions available or some shit
The reviews are usually helpful, but a lot of the reviewers are DVNR apologists. The forums are more helpful for finding flaws.
Yeah fair I get that, some of the bitrate/hard data analysis shit goes right over my head.
I forget that exists, how heavily Criterion focused is it? I'm UK based so we've never had quite the same focus on them with all its thematic competitors here (Eureka, Indicator, Arrow Academy)
Don't think either are really within their tastes, plus Mandy has a pretty good release already AFAIK
Is that any good? My gf bought that for her father recently. The UK BD does actually have English subs btw, and IIRC the streaming versions aren't in the native aspect ratio of 4:3
>how heavily Criterion focused is it? I
It has several subforums, some for Criterion releases/rumors etc but also several about releases from boutique labels, blu-rays/dvds only released in certain countries, overall discussion, it's very alive with talk and info
I mean Criterion has release some shit, subpar movies, and because Mandy is outside their usual profile that makes it a good option, not least because of the recent diversity dreck they've been releasing to an absolutely indifferent reaction. Mandy displays vision, likewise BBR
The Criterion Forum is very good as well
I always check even if it's to choose the best version to download
The real boomer forum is Hometheaterforum. Bunch of old farts. They regularly defer to their resident experts who frequently talk out of their ass, but the groupthink and elitism is too strong. Blu-ray forum is regular guys in 20s/30s/40s.
>Bunch of old farts. They regularly defer to their resident experts who frequently talk out of their ass, but the groupthink and elitism is too strong.
Sounds like the Hoffman forum for music although it might not be as bad these days. Plenty of dick sucking retards on there years ago though.
I literally buy my 10/10s so I can throw them on with no hesitation and no searching necessary
and usually only buy boutique blurays for value/resale value if necessary
(therefore tons of titles in pic related are sold/donated).
Criterion should release special editions of both Mandy and Beyond the Black Rainbow
>boutique blurays
What's that?
https://www.boutiquebluray.com/wiki/Main_Page
Do you disc buyers redeem your digital codes? Because if not I want them
i buy dvd versions of operas because they have eng subtitles and i can actually engage myself with the story and lyric and not just 'oh this is some good music with german yelling"
also its the only way to watch shaka zulu with subtitles ever since it was taken off netflix
fbi agent glow so bright
Delusional retard, we're talking about fucking physical media. Go be a schizo literally anywhere else
most people don't torrent
Unless you have fiber there's still data caps, and streaming high res video is about the most demanding download there is short of shit like game installs.
>Unless you have fiber there's still data caps
feels good to be a verizon fag
Well my cap is like a terabyte per month or something, rarely ever get that high. Think I only did once because I was reinstalling a bunch of stuff for some reason. But I don't stream 4k or anything, yet. Though new tv's and such make me tempted to consider it.
I buy blurays of old animus. That's about it. I literally don't watch anything else except the sanic movies. I don't even know why I'm here.
Picked up the LOTR special extended editions for $45 recently. Streaming in big gay, owning physical is where it's at. Not to mention the extra 10+ hours of behind the scenes footage that you can't find on streaming services (other than sometimes youtube for older films)
I have those. Never once watched em. Life is too short. But like the fool I am, still upgraded to blurays when they were on sale and I haven't watched those either. Now I hear about the UHD release and I realize I need help.
I gotta quit doing stuff like this.
drop all my dvd's with that set at the goodwill
I predict in the near future all studios will cease releasing new hard-copy media. They’ll use “the environment” as an excuse. They’re already testing the waters with straight-to-streaming releases.
I prefer hard copies because I don’t have to pay to stream it; I don’t have to worry about it being yanked; and I don’t have to worry about retro edits that “improve” special effects or quietly delete “hateful” material. I’m sure one day a concerned neighbor will phone the cops over “a rotting smell” and they’ll find my decaying corpse buried under a DVD landslide.
Physical media will continue perhaps in a different form but as long as there's a market, people will make it and sell it.
Yes, BUT. consider:
>home video released at a time of no Internet
>rental stores, Blockbuster
>Netflix kills Blockbuster
>Netflix (and others) begin making original content
>studios begin revoking streaming rights and building their own streaming services, a strong motivator being to stop funding new emerging competition
If the studios can normalize “Paramount” subscriptions, why distribute hard copies? Not only would they remove the expense of manufacturing but they would create a NEED to be either subscribed to a streaming service or pay full price for a digital download. I think this will happen soon. They even have a myriad of excuses:
>”environmentally friendly”
>”convenient”
>”contact-free” during [insert whatever disease lockdowns]
I buy physical media. You would not believe the amount of digital media I've lost over the last 20 years. I have vinyl records, casette tapes, and CDs. The vinyl records have held up best. I have a streaming music account, but I've had songs disappear from it for various reasons, and there's nothing I can do about. I used to have a Netflix account, but tv shows and movies routinely disappear from availability because of rights issues. My DVDs and Blurays are always going to be there. They will not disappear because some actor got cancelled by SJWs or the rights holder decided to put them behind a different providers paywall or my laptop got stolen or my OS took a shit and corrupted all my files or whatever. I won't lose music because my ipod got stolen, and nobody in their right mind breaks into a house and steals a stack of CDs.
the only thing i remember from this movie is the boy trying to sign up to die horribly in WW1 and getting turned away for some reason
People do still buy them, that’s the thing. Not every movie is available through streaming. Buying movies is the same price as renting them from back in the day.
Fuck off industryfag.
no u
A Russian fellow had to get my 4K remux from somewhere, after all.
Jokes aside, I wonder if the best availible quality of a film will be whatever they compressed so they could save on storage and bandwith if a move for digital-only media takes place and succeeds.
I really doubt they'd distribute anything losslessly. I could be wrong and they could already be doing so, but I wouldn't know since I never bought digital media (and never will).
honestly they are dirt cheap thanks to 4k uhd being the new thing now
can you even notice the difference
its there, especially if you have hdr on. but its not a big difference obviously. esp if you have a tv that does a good job of scaling 1080p to 4k
if you sold all of that how much would the total come up to
bout tree fiddy
He says stuff while he shoots his gun.
>guardians of the galaxy
I collect Blu Rays of movies I like, especially B movie horror
Old people and poor people. My dad was still buying DVDs until a couple of years ago until he got a smart TV and I gave him login details to all my Netflix, Amazon etc. He just thought DVD was the most incredible thing up until that point.
They are good to have around for times where you don't have internet.
when do you not have internet
Those first few days when you move into a new place.
well played
I've never personally had internet or even a computer of any kind in my entire life except dial up for about six months about 20 years ago. I'm phone posting. I've had roommates with it, at my job, etc.
don't believe ya
What's to not believe. And even that computer when I had dial up was just my mom's old one she gave me. So now it'd probably be about a 30 year old computer. I've never bought any type of computer whatsoever. Although now that I think about it I probably had to pay for part of the internet when my roommates had it. That's probably been about 20 years though.
You used to be able to tell a lot about a family based on what movies they had on their shelf. Now you can tell a lot about someone if they have movies on their shelf at all.
I know some people still buy them. They never upgraded to 4K. It’s not even a big deal with todays LCD TVs. They work in a blu ray.