Once Tony gets on Prozac it's never a meaningful part of the story again, the only exception being when he hallucinates on Lithium which is resolved in one episode. How come Tony is totally fine with having his brain zombified? How come we never even hear about that side of what taking medication is like? For a show which I believe is primarily about mental health it has such a toddler's understanding of what medication does.
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Show me your certified credentials or a medical diploma for you to talk about things you have no idea about you moronic Black person
why must one be a psychiatrist to have an opinion on this
t. psycho who thinks taking tranquilizers to not be insane is healthy and normal
I'm sorry that your parent fricked up your head irreparable by putting you on SSRIs, little buddy. Doesn't mean you have to lash out like a b***h, though.
No he's right, psychiatry / psychology is a stampede of pseuds anyways, his level of discourse fits right in. I do have a degree.
Can I ask why you're so defensive? If you're on medication and it's worked for you then I'd value if you shared your experience. I was on antidepressants for 6 months and it made me feel like a zombie, a lot of others feel the same way.
umm drastically altering your brain chemistry is actually le good chud maybe you should get on estrogen too
>brain chemistry
"brain chemistry" is a spook didnt you hear it from our based scientology specialist tommy cruise?
brain works through magic
Tony didn't give a frick about his medication. He didn't even bother with the daily doses, he went on and off it several times, doubled his doses to "correct" that. It's impossible to tell if it could've worked for him or not.
It doesn't work for anybody. Except for turning you into a zombie.
Strange how this decades long study has been wholly ignored by the media.
https://www.ucl.ac.uk/news/2022/jul/no-evidence-depression-caused-low-serotonin-levels-finds-comprehensive-review
>low-serotonin
there are other neurotransmitter besides serotonin and other medications besides SSRIs but you are too moronic to know that Black personhomosexual
Okay troony.
it's like you didn't even watch the show
more and more I understand david chase's frustrations
umm actually the doctor told me i should lop my penis off and he's and expert sooo....
baited everybody award
Did you even bother watching past when he gets on prozac OP?
>lithium
>hallucinations
that's what happened doe
yeah they really got that one wrong in the show.
t. knower
do adhd drugs frick up your brain as badly as SSRIs?
>t. thinking about trying adderall
uh well if you’re trying to take addy on a daily basis then that would be dumb
take them tactically for like one day a week and have a big to do list and you’ll fly through it
yes
t. anesthesiologist
It's insane that kids are being put on them and in such numbers. I mean, you're raising kids who are daily users of amphetamines from the age of 5. Imagine how their brains will be totally fried when they grow up. Maybe they're the kids that troon out.
They're gonna be the moronic kids you'll read about in the news doing dumb shit.
Tony isn't depressed, he's a psychopath.
psychopath isnt even a real thing. its just a normalgay fantasy that they tell themselves so they dont have to realize that all people are capable of doing horrible things
therapy and ssris are for weak people
Tony knew this, as did the mob. That’s why he kept his therapy secret lest he be outed as weak and put down, justifiably
ask a doctor exactly how an ssri works
they won’t be able to tell you because no one knows
Dumbass there’s lots of drugs we don’t know the mechanism behind but have been shown to be effective
>this here drug is 1% more effective than placebo and has serious side effects
>start taking it every day for life
>we also don’t know how it works
These so called experts don't even know how their own drugs work but we have to silence ourselves and follow along like what they say is gospel.
I've been on Prozac for a while. It has really helped me.
I missed my entire junior year of high school because I couldn't go outside without having a panic attack.
Probably the worst year of my life. Being trapped in your home. I remember calling myself a pussy over and over, hyping myself up to go outside, and I'd go to the curb and almost collapse.
Just hell.
If I ever find a negative side to Prozac I'll take it into consideration, but for now, it literally saved my life.
anon it’s time to learn how to live without prozac, it should only be temporary. Believe in yourself. Use the drug to get your life together. You don’t panic like that for no reason and it can be fixed
I've tried. I really just can't figure out what irks me.
It has something to do with questioning reality or doubting it, and the tinge of panic that comes from those thoughts.
Maybe some kind of dissociation.
But I know without Prozac I'd be sitting in a car, tell myself my life isn't real, and then have two panic attacks on the way home.
With Prozac the thought might freak me out, but I won't have an attack.
I haven't had one since I got on it. So three years now.
you know you could just have taken some magnesium and theanine to calm your overexcited nervous system?
No one told me that. I don't know what that is beyond magnesium.
youll never get an honest look at life. your entire existence is sedated. i guess some people are okay with this, but i wouldnt be
I think peoppe can benefit short term. The problem is medium and long term it's very dicey
>medium and long term
That's where pretty much all of them are or will be.
>short term SSRI use
are these drugs extremely hard to get on/off? i heard they have intense withdrawals
Yes. Expect brainzaps, vertigo and nausea when you try to get off
it was written by people who haven't been brainwashed by right wing morons
Italians love head meds. I mean they LOVE them
>As a wholly good thing
They don't. Prozac and Ritalin were the two most prescribed drugs at the time, and when The Sopranos first aired mental health treatment was in it's early stages of becoming "non-taboo" and acceptable to talk about openly, and was still not totally accepted. The show wasn't taking a stance, it was just showing a non average person (Mobster) dealing with average shit (mental health). It was also there to provide tension, as Tony's mafia family would largely not tolerate him going to therapy and being on "crazy pills".
Because the Tv/movie industry and the pharmacuetical corporation's are in Cahoots
Not really in cahoots. Just owned by the same people/investment banks/funds. Who also own the politicians.
did you know for literally every drug, there's a huge number of people who experience zero negative side effects?
crazy right??
They didn't, Tony's treatment from Melfi as a whole was shown to be pointless in the last episode. They don't show any side effects of the meds for the same reason they don't show him getting acid reflux from his shit diet, the writers deemed it not important enough to show. His behavior never improves, his mood never improves, his relationships don't get better, I'm pretty surprised any body would watch the show and come to the conclusion you did.
I think someone who has been on SSRIs has a more valid opinion of someone who prescribes them yet never taken them. Also you're a b***h.
SSRIs didn't do anything for me one way or the other, didn't make me any more zombified than depression already had.
Surely this includes the millions of non-psychiatric meds. Plenty of those people are on insulin or blood thinners or propranolol.
Also it is this way because in some ways sopranos is basically just an infomercial for these kinds of drugs. That's why it originally got green lit
Do they? They dont help him at all
Friends, never let them put you on SSRIs for any real length of time. If you need them to get through a bad point in your life that's understandable, but I beg of you, make a plan with your doctor to ween yourself off of them and to get off them entirely BEFORE you start taking them. Taking them indefinitely is one of the worst things you can possibly do and can absolutely destroy your life if you start at a young age or even in your teens and early 20s.
I started at 18. Am 20 now.
How fricked am I?
Start making a plan to get off of them, there's still time.
Talk to whoever prescribed them to you and say "I'd like to try getting off of these pills and trying some other things to see if they work better, whether that's a combination of therapy and CBT (cognitive behavior therapy) or whatever, but I'd like to try something else."
Don't be angry and demanding about it, but be firm that this is the direction you want to go.
The key to this is that you have to understand that getting off of them is NOT a walk in the park and you WILL have to do it slowly to avoid the worst of the withdrawal effects. Plan on weening down over the course of 2-3 months. The first week that you're clear of them after that won't be too bad but the second will be the worst. After that it'll get much better.
The whole time you're weening off you have to make a conscious effort to start working on your problems, start small and work your way up to the biggest ones. Exercise, go talk to your doctor about your problems and concerns (don't just sit passively and let them direct a conversation). You're 20, you have tons of time in your life to work things out so don't despair when you have setbacks (you will, that's just life for everyone).
How would it ruin my life if I stayed on them? ED or some kind of life threatening disease?
Most commonly suicide eventually. These meds are designed to even you out, so the lows in your life aren't as low and (they don't talk much about this) the highs in your life aren't as high. It's a cumulative effect over time so the longer you're on them the more you become involuntarily stoic, slowly you realize that you're not feeling happy at all with all the things that should make you happy and that your depression never went away (because SSRIs don't actually treat depression, see
). This typically leads many (not all, some can tolerate it) to eventually realizing that they've just been on a steady decline the entire time and that they're unfixable, the thought of continuing life in a steady decline is too much and they take their lives.
But they and everyone else are fixable and can be better, they've just been undergoing the wrong treatment. Exercise, finding a community (church, sports, online, what the frick ever) and socializing will do far more for you in the long run than blindly accepting you need to take a pill. Hell, you could legitimately be misdiagnosed and have ADHD and not merely depression since something crazy like 80% of those with ADHD of any severity will end up developing depression whereas the inverse is only 2%. Some of those mental health disorders can legitimately be treated with drugs and you'll see improvements in your mood but depression is more of a symptom than a disease for the vast majority of people.
If you do decide to do this just know it's not easy but it's worth it.
Had a nearly similar experience even down to wasting a decade as a zombie just going along with things.
Good post.
I started them at 19-20. The next ten years can be written off. I was zombiefied. The doctors never stopped using them on me, just changed the types all of whom are all pretty much the same. So, yeah. Ten years of my life ruined. I was just a lazy idiot that needed a kick up the backside. Not to be put on SSRIs.
Weaned my self off. Started working out. Life changed completely. Now ten years from that I finished my degree, got a job, girlfriends, and now wife and kid, house, two cars, etc. Except I still like coming here. Because I enjoy calling people Black folk and homosexuals.
>Weaned my self off. Started working out. Life changed completely.
sounds like they did work (:
happy for you anon
Therapy and SSRIs were a big thing when The Sopranos came out. Funny how it's flipped now with people realizing SSRIs don't do anything, but turn you into a zombie and therapy is a joke used to protect and empower women.
Zoomer here, my mum never took me to doctors as a kid even though I have a ton of mental issues. I overheard her saying she didn't want me on medication so kept me away. Nearly 20 now, and I refuse to go to the doctor and get diagnosed with anything (You NEVER hear of somebody dying of undiagnosed things at home. They ALWAYS die in a hospital or while they are back home after being diagnosed. Prove me wrong.). I also refuse to take medication (although I have no opportunity to anyway). How lucky am I that my mother didn't fall for any of that shit?
good bait
Not even joking but okay kek. You don't have to give me any (you)s.
its a very 90s/early 2000s approach to head meds, which is to say, the appropriate approach. You take the zombie pill and if it works, great, if it doesnt, you move on.
These days you need grounding techniques and a wienertail of ssri's and we also need to program kids to be hyper aware of panic and anxiety attacks
>throw shit at the wall and see what sticks
>the correct approach
A medical professional everyone
yeah instead we clearly need to over-pathologize all this shit and be hyper aware of it all the time, surely this doesnt result in more mental illness than we've ever seen+ the nice addition of exponentially growing gender confusion amongst youth. yaaass
talk
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about
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mental health
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more!
Or, y’know, maybe do something that requires slightly more effort than writing a scrip. Turd
WHy do lawyers of medical malpractice lawsuits get so rich?
>hallucinates on Lithium which is resolved in one episode. How come Tony is totally fine with having his brain zombified?
Doesn't Tony say that he doesn't get any enjoyment out of life later in the series?
Considering how overall incompetent every therapist is, and with the character Svetlana, The Sopranos doesn't really portray any of it as much good
>your opinions worth LESS THAN DOG SHIT
very indian phrasing
Propaganda show pushing drugs, you shouldn’t take tv seriously or even watch it
>let's examine the large body of research that existed on SSRis 20 years ago
this.
take your pills
get in line
trust the experts
stop asking questions
The writers have an infantile understanding of psychiatric medicine and psychotherapy. For example: that scene where Tony is taking his meds and White Rabbit is playing, as if he's about to trip his ass off. Boomers see all drugs that way.
>and White Rabbit is playing,
Doesn't that play when he's making ice cream
Can anyone here give me a qrd on omega-3s and mental health? Like did Tony just need to eat more fresh, fatty fish? Asking for a friend, yeah, a friend, that’s the ticket
Tony needed to stop feeding his shadow murder and women who are not his wife and gabagool and coke and booze and silk shirts and save his soul.
There's not a strong established connection between omega3s and mental anything, but fatty fish is definitely good for your heart, fish oil supps too buy not as beneficial.
Doctors are good at "plumbing", you know cutting up and connecting veins and intestines etc. or mechanical work like taking out a kidney and putting in a new one. They are pretty fricking terrible at everything else.
I would've liked to see an episode where Tony gets frustrated that it takes him forever to cum because it's a sexual side effect of SSRIs.
>SSRIs can be prescribed for depression
>possible side effects include suicidal thoughts
I've never gotten a straight answer from any doctor I've asked about that. Shit is ass backwards.
It was explained to me that sometimes it feels like antibiotics aren't working if you only take them for a week, but you have to keep on and push through to have the full and desired effect.
if youre considering ever having kids, keep them OFF this shit. Also birth control turns girls into demons
anybody know anything about Wellbutrin? Heard it gives you energy/mood improvement, with less chance of side effects than stuff like zoloft. Seems like it might be beneficial for fatigue/apathy.
It's just as terrible and zombiefing as the rest of them.
I took Prozac for a while. It mostly just made me tired, although in a not altogether unpleasant way. I might start taking it again, I was a lot less anxious while I took it.
Tried zoloft for about a month a few years ago. Hard to describe, but it felt like an unpleasant listlessness, a vaguely bad, quite strange feeling. Although I wasn't seriously depressed or anxious. It is disturbing that so many people are on these powerful drugs for years and years. Being on zoloft that long would be like deleting a part of your brain or identity, but maybe it helps for a small or very small portion of people who try it.