Why don't MCU movies have lasting appeal anymore?

Why don't MCU movies have lasting appeal anymore?

  1. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Post-Endgame burnout and the fact they're largely only left with C and D list characters to work with now.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      And the A listers aren't much better we are left with the green guy that doesn't get movies and the guy with the worst trilogy of them all.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      The problem isn't that they have C and D list characters to work for. Fucking Iron Man and Robert Downey Jr. Were a C list character and actor when all this shit started and these movies propelled both to A list.
      The issue is that the Marvel formula has grown incredibly stale and predictable, the overall writing quality has plummeted, and they keep playing these new C and D listers too safe without taking any big risks.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >and they keep playing these new C and D listers too safe without taking any big risks.

        This is the biggest issue really. What made the MCU work was how they reworked old marvel concepts better than modern Marvel ever could. I honestly can't say any of the new avengers stand out the way the guardians or ironman did. Also everything is just a joke now so nothing matters. What's going to happen in Black Panther 2? Who cares Black Panther is not even in it. His little sister gets the suit.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      They were already working with C and D listers, the A and B listers where owned by Fox and Sony.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      They have plenty of characters to use, the problem is they keep fucking them up and not using them to their fullest.

  2. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Superhero hype died down.

  3. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    People are tired of the decadent West, and are looking towards China and Russia to bring the new world order and new kino entertainment.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Can't wait

  4. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    It’s just marketing anon. It doesn’t matter about the lasting impact, just market the thing for the first weekend and it will make bank at the box office.

  5. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    The opening weekend is front loaded because most MCU fans are diehard fanboys now that will keep watching, while casual moviegoers are checking out.

  6. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    My interest in going out to see movies in theaters was already pretty low and then the pandemic pretty much killed it for good.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      This, the few times I've been have been a shit experience. From bad crowds to poorly run theaters (last movie I saw was a Regal where you could only get tickets from concession and there was a rattling A/C unit in the theater the entire time). The turnaround on them dropping on streaming is so small anyways that I just wait now.

  7. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    This movie has no hype among black people. It's not masculine at all and feels so white. I can't believe we went from T'challa vs Warmonger to this. Black people like DBZ, not woman drama.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      This cannot be overstated
      These movies are for childless, soulless, mindless white women

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I feel like it was a big missed opportunity to not have Mbaku as BP 2 and Shuri as Warmonger 2, having a 3 way ideological fight at the end where Mbaku's goal is to stop them from fighting by fighting as BP himself. They even play with the idea of Shuri being more like Warmonger, but the just make her BP anyway. I feel like it was a rewrite.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >They even play with the idea of Shuri being more like Warmonger
        It was the most interesting part of the movie and it lasted like 5 minutes. God forbid we have interesting character dynamics in these movies.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >I feel like it was a rewrite.

        MCU's plans hinge on the YoungAvengers/Champions lineup. Every remaining MCU movie is about that.
        It is why DoctorStrange MOM was all about America, why AntMan3 will feature Stature, etc.

        They were of course going to cast the young girl as the new BlackPanther.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          I still can't believe they're doing this young avengers shit. The MCU was carried on its back by the charisma and talent of the Phase 1 heroes. You cannot do that again with teenage actors. You just can't.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Disney realized actors age and now they're desperate to farm some new heroes that can last decades. Honestly the real problem is that acting is a dead career path. People don't want to act in movies anymore, they want to do social media. People like Logan Paul would ironically be A-list actors this day in age if social media wasn't a more powerful pull to them.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          A bunch of kids coming together to stop Kang is literally the plot of the Young Avengers, and it's the only good Kang story in the last 20 years.
          What else did you think they were going to do?

  8. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    having 4 day opening:

    >#BlackPantherWakandaForever UPDATED opening breakdown at domestic #BoxOffice:

    28M THU previews

    56M pure FRI holiday (84M incl. preview)

    56.5M SAT +0.8% from pure FRI Holiday (-32.7% from FRI + previews)

    40.5M SUN -28.3% from SAT.

    181M 3-day opening for #WakandaForever

    >Actuals for #BlackPantherWakandaForever’s opening weekend at domestic #BoxOffice came 1M higher, after a stronger than estimated SUN.
    #WakandaForever grossed 181M, just under #MultiverseOfMadness’ 187.4M in 2022.
    #13 highest of all time, beating #CivilWar’s 179.1M.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Would some kind Anon translate this comment from #Hashtag to English?

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        it made $28m on thursday
        $56m on friday, up 0.8% compared to thursday
        because they combine thursday and friday so they can have a three day weekend, friday's figure is $84m,
        $56.5m on saturday, down -32.7% compared to thurs/fri
        $40.4m on sunday, down -28.3% compared to saturday

        it has a 3 day opening box office of $181m

        in those "3 days" it made slightly less than multiverse of madness and slightly more than civil war.

  9. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    It wasn't a good movie. The whole thing was all over the place and probably needed like an extra month of rewrites and an extra month of editing. The bjt where Shuri learns the moral of the story mostly flashes back to stuff from like half an hour before that scene and she wasn't even there for half of it.

  10. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Are you a literal retard? that happens to every fucking movie when going into Monday

  11. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Nobody cares about Marvel movies post Endgame
    And these dumb TV shows have hurt the brand more than ever

  12. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >TANKED
    >IN monday BOX OFFICE
    >MCU IN ABSOLUTE SHAMBLES
    >FLOP
    >WHAT A DISASTER
    >MORE LIKE M-SHE-U!!!!
    >CLICK THIS LINK PLEASE!!!!!!!

  13. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I've wondered lately: I see many people profess discussion over a film long after it premiered to be indicative of quality, or at least of cultural zeitgeist. The sooner people stop talking the worse it is apparently.

    Is it truly because most modern movies are hollow and lacking, or is it because we get more movies that fill that same niche more often now that we simply move on quicker?

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Modern movies outside of the MCU suck ass so nobody talks about them

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      God of War Ragnarok was genuinely a better "movie" than any of these shitass capeshit movies, and I think it's because the video game industry is nowhere near as complacent as Disney/Hollywood since video games are inherently way more of a risk.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        It's 20 hours long dumb bro

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          The MCU is a 50 hour long never ending movie, so no wonder I would play Ragnarok than watch this

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >actually thinking God of Soi is any better than capeshit
        lol, lmao even

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >Cinemaphileirgin bringing his console war seethe to /toon/
          Just go play Kirby and watch your new black panther movie, retard.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Have you seen that shit? It’s literally the exact same inane Marvel-quip bullshit, except it also treats players like actual babies by handholding them the entire way and outright telling them how to solve puzzles.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Most movies dont have a big twist or mysteries left. Pair that with less rememberable moments and less big/good actors.
      After you watched a movie you dont have anything to discuss or talk.

  14. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    The Chad ascension vs The female sequel

  15. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >Black Panther movie without Black Panther

  16. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    No one wants to dedicate another 10 years for a storyline to finish.

  17. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I honestly thought it was a good film, probably one of the best of the MCU tbh; not shocked as the drop though because who the fuck wants to watch Black Panther without the Black Panther? This will definitely be my last mcu movie before kang dynasty

  18. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    They just don’t have the same appeal that the comics used to. Part of it has to do with the fact that now these sort should of films have become a political statement to go see and there’s no real winning move whether you see it or not depending on who you are. Not to say comics haven’t had politics in the past (world war era shit springs to mind), but once you reach the point where your audience are either actively trying to bar races of people from seeing a film or insinuating that if you don’t see it as part of their race you’re a traitor, you really need to go back to the drawing board and figure something out. The other part is that you have a lot of writers trying to reinvent the wheel and pumping out a product that’s honestly just mediocre at best because they want to give you their vision rather than just grabbing from the DECADES of good stories and interpreting them into a new visual media. Change the core aspects too much and you kill off a lot of potential for OG fans who tend to be loyal to a fault once you get them hooked coming to see it. I mean compare MCU stuff to the big monster movies genre. Yes MCU stuff will make a shit ton in the release but the drop off a week later is massive because they switch up the formula a bit too much for the die hards to recommend it to their circles. Unless you want to be lynched by the people that remember the travesty of 95 you can’t really switch up the formula on Godzilla frying another monster’s face off with atomic breath while destroying a city as that’s the core aspect of the films. Ergo, you have a more faithful albeit likely smaller viewer pool.

  19. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    MCU was built off hype momentum and the novelty of newness. No one had ever seen a shared continuity of films on such a scale, and for the layman who only knew a handful of Marvel characters like Spider-Man or Hulk, the MCU was providing them with an incredible slew of new characters they may not have paid attention to otherwise. But it’s been nearly 15 years at this point. If the MCU started when you were in high school you’re now in your 30’s and still expected to get hyped for shit you may not see until you’re almost 40. That’s a long time to stay on the same hook, even if you are a nerd. The pay off of Endgame felt like a natural stopping point, but they kept going, and still with the same mentality that everyone will be hyped for the next big event when really the best thing for the brand is to slow down and do small stories that don’t require 8 hours worth of other movies to get. People aren’t enthralled by superheroes just being there, where once you couldn’t imagine someone like Moon Knight having his own franchise, now we can barely turn our heads for the next Spider-Man project because it’s just so ubiquitous it’s not special. Also, trends just naturally change and people naturally will move on to the next one no matter what. Spielberg was right, superheroes will go the way of the western.

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