Why (good) animation doesn't exist outside these countries?

Why (good) animation doesn't exist outside these countries?

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  1. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    One is not like the others...

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      You sure?

  2. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    3 flags too many in the OP

  3. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    >America makes garbage and only excels when making stuff for kids
    >Japan makes quality stuff except when it's anything not story driven
    >Canada makes fart cartoons
    >and France makes high quality stuff no matter what

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      >except when it's anything not story driven

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      when making stuff for kids
      >90% of the output is aimed at kids
      not story driven
      >most modern shows are nothing but interconnected poorly constructed stories with characters you feel nothing for or does no growing in the story besides power gay shenanigans
      >canada doesnt have an industry so america just outsources their properties to them
      >french stuff is not centralized enough to hold a world wild industry or a following and they also do outsource work from both american and even more so with japan has they straight up high key animators of very popular properties

      you all have 1 thing in common. you do not appreciate the work people make.
      >this is garbage i can tell because its ugly and buzzword and buzzword
      you are so focused on generalizing and writing things off you wont even give it a chance
      >this is top notch masterwork
      okay what other aspects did you enjoy about this other than 5 second fight scene? did you like the voice acting? the characters? the music? the sound design? how about the direction?
      i like everything once and awhile in meaningful chunks and rarely disregard things because people said x about y thing however what i really look for in a show or movie is passion and people actually enjoying what they are making.
      i highly suggest you all start looking at smaller stuff instead of being on your knees waiting for some massive company who only does things to make money, to spit out some multi season cartoon or several movie if you want something individually made to you

      what have they made

      barely an industry there but most of what they make is outsource work from other countries primarily japan.
      I do want to see the koji project take off but thats just what i know, i would like to know what that country makes for itself just like for china but its not exactly something you can look up since no one is interested to report on it in other countries.

  4. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Ahem

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      what have they made

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        >what have they made
        Unitedstatian animation since like 20 years ago to date

  5. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Lack of funding mostly. Exceptions are Britain which prefers comics to cartoons, and Germany which is too autistic to produce anything good.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      UK are best when it comes to comfy af stop-motion

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        slavs are better at that

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        Name something other than Wallace and Gromit.

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          The chicken movie?

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            Chicken Run was a good movie.

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            I saw chicken run again in cinema lately, as good as always

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          >Name something other than Wallace and Gromit.
          Aardman pretty much has no competition except for Laika when it comes to stop motion movies in the entire world.

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            Too bad that Laika's stories are crap

            • 2 years ago
              Anonymous

              I'm more concerned with Laika's character design being crap.

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            >he hasn't heard of Jan Švankmajer
            Absolute state of Cinemaphile

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            *blocks your path*

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          Don't need to, W&G are already perfection.

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          Morph

          Trap Door

          Paddington Bear

          The Clangers

          Postman Pat

          Bob the Builder

          Shaun the Sheep and Creature Comforts, if those aren't considered cheating
          Pingu

          Fireman Sam

          The Wombles
          https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VLCvqAZo5kQ

          There are also a host of puppetry shows but that's not frame-by-frame animation.

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            >Forgetting Thomas the Tank Engine
            Bitish stop-motion is a near-inexhaustible well

            • 2 years ago
              Anonymous

              It's not really stop-motion

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                Is close to it.

            • 2 years ago
              Anonymous

              Yeah that's not stop motion.
              Else I'd include all of the puppetry shows too that youtube probably doesn't have half of the intros for because of how old they all are.

              I'm surprised that puppetry didn't win since surely that would be cheaper than CG.

    • 2 years ago
      '

      You don't know what autism means

  6. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Hue flag should be here for mika alone

  7. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Britain and Spain had their studios

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      Argentina had this guy
      https://wikipedia.org/wiki/Manuel_Garc%C3%ADa_Ferr%C3%A9

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        Mmm. Why didn't they left their own country

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          >Mmm. Why didn't they left their own country
          Most of his works were too Argentine-centric and only made it to Uruguay and Spain as far as I know.

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            Still, those comics left their country, why not the animation?

            • 2 years ago
              Anonymous

              >Still, those comics left their country, why not the animation?
              I suppose dubbing and distributing argentine cartoons didn't look profitable enough.
              His works weren't bad or excellent, the guy was painfully average.
              Direct to video/TV tier.
              Take a look

  8. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Post examples from each.

  9. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Soviet Animation used to be great, you might as well include the U.S.S.R. flag.

  10. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    None of these places are real and you can't prove otherwise.

  11. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Why (ESLs) can't form questions in English?

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      >Why (ESLs) can't form questions in English?
      >Why can't form questions in English?
      You are supposed to be able to make sense of a sentence even if the parentheses are gone.
      WTF are you on about?

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        He's obviously making fun of OP, you fricking idiot.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      Idk nazi moron, why cant you speak without buzzwords?

  12. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Americans invented animation. Most innovations have come out of american studios and people around the world immigrate to the US to learn/work on animation. Japs use animation in place of live action because it was cheaper than setting up film sets with old fashioned cameras back in the day. This means they routinely work on genres that other countries seldom if ever cover. A ton of artsy types in the US looking to dodge the draft fled to Canada during Vietnam. Since the US doesn't place as much importance in animation as it does in live action, Canada has an easier time making competing animated shows that Americans are happy to consume. France has a large pool of artists with a portion of them naturally gravitating towards animation. It's reputation for historical masterworks also attract artists from around the world.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      >Americans invented animation.

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        Well... they literally did, Anon.

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          They didn't.
          The absolute state of Cinemaphileggers

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          It started in France in the late 1800s but to pretend that America hasn’t always been huge in Animation is a homosexual move, as they probably did the most to push it out of its infancy. You can’t argue that Americans are unimportant to the history of animation when they released the first animated feature film.

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            >Get corrected
            >BUT
            Anon...

            • 2 years ago
              Anonymous

              I’m a different Anon, dummy
              I’m literally doing the correcting

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      More importantly France shovels millions of euros of annual subsidies towards the animation sector via the CNC because they realise the value of soft power diplomacy they can leverage from being industry leaders just behind the US/Canada and Japan/Korea. French animation is barely barely profitable, it's entirely kept afloat by the state as a prestige project (not that that's a bad thing).

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