they actually are allowed for older audiences
regular show was slightly high rated than other shows at TV-PG, so they got away with realistic looking guns
simpsons is aimed at adults and has both guns and gunshot wounds
its just actual kids shows that dont really show guns
Kinda like how the Sam and Max cartoon forbid the guys from having their favorite sidearms, a revolver and luger, but they were allowed to use bigger and generally scarier weapons like grenades, rockets and flamethrowers
Suppose no one really has access to that normally so you’re not going to have a censor think that a kid's going to find and smack a warhead outside versus finding dads loaded 5 foot 9 inch revolver
Because guns in American real life are proliferous enough that children are able to find them and play with them in intimation of cartoons, leading to injury and death.
because those school shooting homosexuals ruined everything, i had a cowboy bebop shirt back in 07' as teen and was told to change it or leave class, so i left. They claimed it was self promoting violence.
G1 cartoon Megatron has a weird existence. Like I get why they wanted him to turn into a gun since at the time, toy guns were all the rage. But he was the only one who transformed into an actual IRL gun and it wasn't even for blending in properly.
The first wave of Decepticons was a mix of a handful of military alt-mode robots from one line and largely, "roleplay" robots meant to look like real world objects. Megatron got to be the leader because his toy was the biggest set besides the Optimus Prime/Convoy set they imported at the time.
Bible's more violent than most people think. Joshua and Caleb leading the purge of Jericho, the book of Judges had stuff that would make Dredd blush, not to mention David killing Goliath and slaughter and ripping off Philistine soldiers' foreskins, Elijah trolling and killing off the Prophets of Ball after God wins the Godoff, and Jezebel pushed off a tower and eaten by dogs until there's nothing left but her hands, head, and pooch poop.
>Elijah trolling and killing off the Prophets of Ball after God wins the Godoff
that was pure kino, especially the trolling Elijah did throughout the entire thing. >At noon Elijah began to taunt them. “Shout louder!” he said. “Surely he is a god! Perhaps he is deep in thought, or busy, or traveling. Maybe he is sleeping and must be awakened. >mfw the bants were so on-point that the priests started to cut themselves out of desperation.
...yes? You think Bible thumpers only exist in Da South? Also, a big part of the Protestant movements was eliminating non-Tanakh writings from the Old Testament.
>guns
allowed for PG and above
see adult animation where guns are pretty prevalent >violence
except for actual kids shows like phineas and ferb, you can expect some violence to be accepted
any action show will have violence by default, and even shows that dont have guns allow hand to hand combat like gravity falls
>pure evil
still pretty common
you just see more not-totally evil characters as a deliberate part of the writers to expand the roster variety
>swearing
still not allowed in kids shows
and even those aimed at older audiences stick to tamer swears like crap
you dont see guns in american cartoons because the majority of American cartoons have always been stinted towards general audiences and a GA show has little to gain from adding guns to their work and whole lot to lose
I yearn for the day western cartoons leave that shell
>Indie animation all around >not one of them is some gun-fag who wants to animate some tacticool shit with the vein of a wackier call of duty or even Black Powder Red Earth fan stuff
I know we've got some good 3D animators for this like Sodaz but fuck me how is it possible that not ONE 2D animator is a gun guy?
you dont see guns in american cartoons because the majority of American cartoons have always been stinted towards general audiences and a GA show has little to gain from adding guns to their work and whole lot to lose
I yearn for the day western cartoons leave that shell
Unfortunately the only indie-animation that gets funding these days is "wacky colorful character is le hecking depressed"
He's over at VOID Interactive working on Ready Or Not. I appreciate that his talents are being put to good use but I'd kill to have something like Showtime or Castle of Thorns again.
Dudes into guns and combat and cool manly shit are, plainly speaking, not interested in drawing. They use things like videogame machinimas as creative outputs, which is and has always been a huge underground scene that Cinemaphile has a blind spot on, because it's Cinemaphile on the surface despite being actual high effort animation that can and regularly does kick the ass of toony brightly colored art from furries and pudgy mixed race art majors.
Hell fucking RWBY was absolute shit and yet it was massive despite having a relatively small presence here. Cinemaphile is an extremely out of touch place for animation.
lol, american soldiers always have a love for drawing in 2d
its just that 3d is less time consuming and more efficient to pump out
only the japanese are willing to put gun autism in their shows and even then its not as well animated as it was before
Why do guns always look wrong in japshit, as if they took a couple of photographs of it, traced the photograph and then pretended it's in the same drawing style as the rest of the cartoon?
Even the animation here is shite. You can't catch any of the frames so you can't see what the character is doing, and so much is cropped off you cannot tell there's a perspective shift without a keen eye and watching it over-and-over-again.
>not one of them is some gun-fag who wants to animate some tacticool shit
No one in the history of animation wants to.
because we have become increasingly estranged from our own culture. we must return to our traditions, and have frequent gunfights in all of our entertainment.
I find it funny that the revolver there is just a flare gun.
I'm not sure that Bugs is entirely on model/style either.
Things that are a big no no in american cartoon nowadays: >guns >violence >pure evil >breasts >name-calling
Things that are ok in american cartoon nowadays: >swearing >blood >swords >crossdressing >product placement
Because Americans have a lot of gun violence, and it's easier to blame it on cartoons than to deal with any actual problems in real life. Note how guns in kids' show have been banned for decades, and they still kill each other at an astonishing rate.
It's both. America's motto might as well be "Bitch, don't tell me what to do!" You Americans want to do whatever the hell you feel like doing and push the consequences onto someone else so you don't have to deal with them. You are a nation of children crying about having to eat your veggies and brush your teeth before bed.
>It's both. America's motto might as well be "Bitch, don't tell me what to do!"
We are at the mercy of our government as much as Euro homosexuals are. Particularly homosexuals in NY or CA get to dictate federal law to people who live in sane areas of the country or mass import darkies or homeless there to uproot communities making sure everyone is divided. Part of the reason the U.S is so retarded is because of shit the government and big city homosexuals shove down everyone's throat that there is no legal way to make them stop doing, and as a reaction to the retarded shit they push some retards who might have been harmless end up getting radicalized in another retarded direction.
>heh I'm so smart and above it all, I hate stupid libtard city slickers AND stupid conservatard rural hicks >everything would be so much better if nobody ever cared about anything at all
wow anon you're so cool
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>everything would be so much better if nobody ever cared about anything at all
When did I say that? There is a correct type of extremism, it's just not Libertarianism or Liberal Marxist shit.
Hayao Miyazaki should do a kemono project one more time before he retires. Even though he only did a handful of episodes, it would be a nice end since one of his first projects was doing Sherlock Hound.
They come and go with public opinion on guns. When people aren't thinking that hard about mass shootings and having angry twitter debates further entrenching themselves into being passionately anti-gun they tend to drift back in but then some chud shoots up a pre-school and they vanish entirely for a few years.
Is the looneyvtunes show the most recent one to have any? Bugs straight up had a revolver pulled on him and porky and was told they were gonna get shot
because we have become increasingly estranged from our own culture. we must return to our traditions, and have frequent gunfights in all of our entertainment.
Blaming religious people for all of the censorship and sanitization in the world is honestly nothing short of a pack of lies. The real people that always advocate censorship are really just a subset of society that are always trying to invent problems (ie, the twitter/tumblr types of people), and they can come from any background. In reality, most religious people passively don't care too much about anything, and the ones who do complain are thin-slice. To illuminate this fact: religious people have more children than you. They aren't the ones who view sex as evil. That's you.
you know what surprises me now is the number of young americans on social media actually defend their country's status as a (gun) crime infested shithole
the people being influenced by the nra have grown in numbers and now theres an online community for everything, so yeah theres gonna be more people screaming about somehting
they actually are allowed for older audiences
regular show was slightly high rated than other shows at TV-PG, so they got away with realistic looking guns
simpsons is aimed at adults and has both guns and gunshot wounds
its just actual kids shows that dont really show guns
Kinda like how the Sam and Max cartoon forbid the guys from having their favorite sidearms, a revolver and luger, but they were allowed to use bigger and generally scarier weapons like grenades, rockets and flamethrowers
Suppose no one really has access to that normally so you’re not going to have a censor think that a kid's going to find and smack a warhead outside versus finding dads loaded 5 foot 9 inch revolver
Americans can access guns in real life, so retarded children mimicking shit they see on TV is more of a danger here than Europe or Japan
Exactly.
100% this. Videogames don't count since it's not considered art like cartoons such as bluey
Because guns in American real life are proliferous enough that children are able to find them and play with them in intimation of cartoons, leading to injury and death.
If you're asking
Why AREA guns in american cartooonS a big no no?
then are you sure you thinking about the right demographic?
"Guns are bad but it's okay if it shoots lasers" has been the american belief for years and it's just as dumb as outright censoring guns.
bc they are homosexuals like any weak parent leaving their kids on their own and then whining over everything
>Why AREA guns
What?
because those school shooting homosexuals ruined everything, i had a cowboy bebop shirt back in 07' as teen and was told to change it or leave class, so i left. They claimed it was self promoting violence.
G1 cartoon Megatron has a weird existence. Like I get why they wanted him to turn into a gun since at the time, toy guns were all the rage. But he was the only one who transformed into an actual IRL gun and it wasn't even for blending in properly.
The first wave of Decepticons was a mix of a handful of military alt-mode robots from one line and largely, "roleplay" robots meant to look like real world objects. Megatron got to be the leader because his toy was the biggest set besides the Optimus Prime/Convoy set they imported at the time.
Things that are a big no no in american cartoon nowadays:
>guns
>violence
>pure evil
>breasts
>name-calling
Things that are ok in american cartoon nowadays:
>swearing
>blood
>swords
>crossdressing
>product placement
This is what Bible thumpers did to us
>these damn bible thumpers are putting swearing and crossdressing in my cartoons!!
huh?
What? Tipper gore karens are there too. You think the right wing is OK with the Blues Clues tranny beavers?
>Bible thumpers in CA and New York
Pretty decent bait
>he thinks biblethumpers didn't call or write in to bitch
Bible's more violent than most people think. Joshua and Caleb leading the purge of Jericho, the book of Judges had stuff that would make Dredd blush, not to mention David killing Goliath and slaughter and ripping off Philistine soldiers' foreskins, Elijah trolling and killing off the Prophets of Ball after God wins the Godoff, and Jezebel pushed off a tower and eaten by dogs until there's nothing left but her hands, head, and pooch poop.
>Elijah trolling and killing off the Prophets of Ball after God wins the Godoff
that was pure kino, especially the trolling Elijah did throughout the entire thing.
>At noon Elijah began to taunt them. “Shout louder!” he said. “Surely he is a god! Perhaps he is deep in thought, or busy, or traveling. Maybe he is sleeping and must be awakened.
>mfw the bants were so on-point that the priests started to cut themselves out of desperation.
They still censor those parts for children.
...yes? You think Bible thumpers only exist in Da South? Also, a big part of the Protestant movements was eliminating non-Tanakh writings from the Old Testament.
I'm pretty sure he's the same homosexual whom feels upset because his hometown has a giant cross he sees everytime he drives to work.
die tranny
Hedonist NPC please neck yourself
>Things that are ok in american cartoon nowadays:
>nowadays
Anon...I don't think you lived through the Looney Tunes, Flintstones, Ren & Stimpy era
>guns
allowed for PG and above
see adult animation where guns are pretty prevalent
>violence
except for actual kids shows like phineas and ferb, you can expect some violence to be accepted
any action show will have violence by default, and even shows that dont have guns allow hand to hand combat like gravity falls
>pure evil
still pretty common
you just see more not-totally evil characters as a deliberate part of the writers to expand the roster variety
>swearing
still not allowed in kids shows
and even those aimed at older audiences stick to tamer swears like crap
>swords
At least we still have swords.
But cross dressing has always been a thing in cartoons?
you dont see guns in american cartoons because the majority of American cartoons have always been stinted towards general audiences and a GA show has little to gain from adding guns to their work and whole lot to lose
I yearn for the day western cartoons leave that shell
>Indie animation all around
>not one of them is some gun-fag who wants to animate some tacticool shit with the vein of a wackier call of duty or even Black Powder Red Earth fan stuff
I know we've got some good 3D animators for this like Sodaz but fuck me how is it possible that not ONE 2D animator is a gun guy?
They spent all their money on guns
Unfortunately the only indie-animation that gets funding these days is "wacky colorful character is le hecking depressed"
I miss reticulon so much bros...
He's over at VOID Interactive working on Ready Or Not. I appreciate that his talents are being put to good use but I'd kill to have something like Showtime or Castle of Thorns again.
The closest we have to gun-fag 'tism in American indie animation is Madness.
Dudes into guns and combat and cool manly shit are, plainly speaking, not interested in drawing. They use things like videogame machinimas as creative outputs, which is and has always been a huge underground scene that Cinemaphile has a blind spot on, because it's Cinemaphile on the surface despite being actual high effort animation that can and regularly does kick the ass of toony brightly colored art from furries and pudgy mixed race art majors.
Hell fucking RWBY was absolute shit and yet it was massive despite having a relatively small presence here. Cinemaphile is an extremely out of touch place for animation.
lol, american soldiers always have a love for drawing in 2d
its just that 3d is less time consuming and more efficient to pump out
only the japanese are willing to put gun autism in their shows and even then its not as well animated as it was before
I truly do wonder what happened to all those people making violent flash stickmen animations. Probably hung that cape up a long time ago.
american gun autist = buys and plays with his guns
japanese/euro(country dependent) gun autist = cannot buy and use guns, so he draws guns
Why do guns always look wrong in japshit, as if they took a couple of photographs of it, traced the photograph and then pretended it's in the same drawing style as the rest of the cartoon?
Even the animation here is shite. You can't catch any of the frames so you can't see what the character is doing, and so much is cropped off you cannot tell there's a perspective shift without a keen eye and watching it over-and-over-again.
>not one of them is some gun-fag who wants to animate some tacticool shit
No one in the history of animation wants to.
I find it funny that the revolver there is just a flare gun.
I'm not sure that Bugs is entirely on model/style either.
>crossdressing
It isn't. It's trannyshit now.
Never criticize animation without understanding it you retarded nagger. Your mom should have aborted you. Brainless cretin.
>as if they took a couple of photographs of it, traced the photograph
Not even that actually
Otsuka's legitimately that great of a draftsman
Because Americans have a lot of gun violence, and it's easier to blame it on cartoons than to deal with any actual problems in real life. Note how guns in kids' show have been banned for decades, and they still kill each other at an astonishing rate.
"Personal responsibility" are two words that do not exist in the American vocabulary.
>Americans are ruthlessly individualistic
>Americans have no personal responsibility
you euros really need to pick a narrative
It's both. America's motto might as well be "Bitch, don't tell me what to do!" You Americans want to do whatever the hell you feel like doing and push the consequences onto someone else so you don't have to deal with them. You are a nation of children crying about having to eat your veggies and brush your teeth before bed.
>It's both. America's motto might as well be "Bitch, don't tell me what to do!"
We are at the mercy of our government as much as Euro homosexuals are. Particularly homosexuals in NY or CA get to dictate federal law to people who live in sane areas of the country or mass import darkies or homeless there to uproot communities making sure everyone is divided. Part of the reason the U.S is so retarded is because of shit the government and big city homosexuals shove down everyone's throat that there is no legal way to make them stop doing, and as a reaction to the retarded shit they push some retards who might have been harmless end up getting radicalized in another retarded direction.
>heh I'm so smart and above it all, I hate stupid libtard city slickers AND stupid conservatard rural hicks
>everything would be so much better if nobody ever cared about anything at all
wow anon you're so cool
>everything would be so much better if nobody ever cared about anything at all
When did I say that? There is a correct type of extremism, it's just not Libertarianism or Liberal Marxist shit.
ACK!
baby hands
Oh hey I made that .gif, shit's gotta be over 10 years old at this point. god I remember how annoying Cinemaphile's old filesizes used to be.
More to the point the American animation industry has primarily centered around children's media and violence in that sphere is a big no-no.
Hayao Miyazaki should do a kemono project one more time before he retires. Even though he only did a handful of episodes, it would be a nice end since one of his first projects was doing Sherlock Hound.
It should be noted he wanted Mrs. Hudson to be human. His idea was vetoed by the Pagots. Thank them.
>Even though he only did a handful of episodes
The ones he made are the *original* episodes.
>one of his first projects
By the early 80's, he was in the industry for 20 years.
He was also going to have her ride a motorcycle in a storyboarded episode that was never created.
They come and go with public opinion on guns. When people aren't thinking that hard about mass shootings and having angry twitter debates further entrenching themselves into being passionately anti-gun they tend to drift back in but then some chud shoots up a pre-school and they vanish entirely for a few years.
Is the looneyvtunes show the most recent one to have any? Bugs straight up had a revolver pulled on him and porky and was told they were gonna get shot
Because guns are bad
If you like guns, then you're bad
I'm bad
I'm bad
Really really bad
Interesting, do you have more of the book? is it available somewhere? please answer before thread gets baleted by EAST VS WEST flags
It actually came from an ebay listing for the artbook. I dunno if it's been fully scanned, sadly.
because we have become increasingly estranged from our own culture. we must return to our traditions, and have frequent gunfights in all of our entertainment.
Blaming religious people for all of the censorship and sanitization in the world is honestly nothing short of a pack of lies. The real people that always advocate censorship are really just a subset of society that are always trying to invent problems (ie, the twitter/tumblr types of people), and they can come from any background. In reality, most religious people passively don't care too much about anything, and the ones who do complain are thin-slice. To illuminate this fact: religious people have more children than you. They aren't the ones who view sex as evil. That's you.
Whats the most "threatening" gun a show can feature with the lower rating?
As long as it shoots lasers. You can even get away with showing spent casings if you tell the censors they're "power cores."
Rango got away with using and firing realistic guns in 2011.
you know what surprises me now is the number of young americans on social media actually defend their country's status as a (gun) crime infested shithole
the people being influenced by the nra have grown in numbers and now theres an online community for everything, so yeah theres gonna be more people screaming about somehting
Source?
Because Americans love the glorification of violence in media as long as it doesn't remind them too much of real life.
that's good. means there's hope for the future after all.