Why has Western animation never been able to match this level of kino?
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Why has Western animation never been able to match this level of kino?
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what was nofaces problem
he was the self insert for weebs everywhere
Capitalism
west only like animals or inanimate objects that talk
The West doesn't place as much emphasis on animation as a medium for deep expression.
>miyazaki
>Miyazaki
KEK, old man should die already. Spirited away is shit film.
> I'm a contrarian just to fool myself into a false belief that I'm superior to others
transparent as frick
nta but here is an explenation for you. miyazaki is boring homosexual. all his movies have is humans le bad nature le good, but that wont give them depth. Spirited away is the worst offender, because its his personal fetish movie of little girl being closed in a brothel and getting pimped by japanese demons. You like it only because you are dumb westerner and dont see this.
The spirit land is also boring, but thats more of a fault of japanese as a whole.
His other movies are no better. Mononoke is kinda nice but but simping for that deer b***h in the forest is tiring. also mononoke is a c**t
naushika is moronic version of mononoke.
tldr. frick you and frick ghibli.
> I'm a contrarian just to fool myself into a false belief that I'm superior to others
transparent as frick, cool blogpost though
He absolutely has a point if you took the time and watched all of his movies. His characters are as one dimensional and dry as they come. It's why no one remembers any of their names.
You don't watch Ghibli movies for the characters. It's the broad themes, the animation and the general craft.
It's like judging Citizen Kane for not having MCU quips and shit to break up the tension.
>You're not suppose to watch a movie for it's characters is now an excuse for writing badly written unmemorable characters
Yeah okay.
>It's like judging Citizen Kane for not having MCU quips and shit to break up the tension.
The frick kind of comparison is this. Who said anything about quips and how does that equate to the criticisms in these other movies? I'm thinking it doesn't.
Ghibli fans can't help it. They are only teenagers after all.
And what's your idea of adulthood? Shitty trolling in an imageboard?
I don't like ghibli because women like them.
Women like breathing, so by all means, go ahead and drop dead. I'll hold a 3 second vigil to remember your noble sacrifice in ridding the world of another sub-95 IQ oxygen thief.
Based. Miyazaki is a gay moron Black person with aids and only closet homosexuals that love to rape kids can enjoy his dogshit movies.
>naushika is moronic version of mononoke.
did you mean to say non-moronic version
Didn't real lol.
Bro I just like the pretty cartoon movie, chill the frick out homosexual.
>tranime
dude what if a little girl cleans shit out of a pool because her parents are pigs and her grandma is mean but her soulless rich friend takes her to a prince dragon
western animators that care about making a good film aren't the people that try to make it look overly good. For multiple reasons that is, but only the japanese have this sort of mindset that is quite evident when interacting with their work culture.
The bad western animators only chase movement and not film, and they will sacrifice sobriety for the sake of not boring the moronic viewer, think of all this tweening animation shit on live character that deprives them of any semblance of life.
Truly what is most despicable in western animation (and that started to contaminate japan) is this will to make their characters jump around like spergs, and go to stupid lenghts of ugliness to make their characters do stupid gestures, giving western animation this weird feel.
Also there is this key animation shit, it can obviously look good sometimes, but in tv shows it just turn out to be a vain succession of poses that feel so out of place.
The best practice I would reccomend as a fellow animator is either to draw in straights in the final framerate for full expression of art and talent, or work in a regular (at least for each layer) framerate and adapt the poses to it (like draw in 4s, 6s 8s, and so on) and then draw the inbetweens, I think thats what respects life the most as in its not looking to be overly dramatic, its very organic, and it's also a great practice to get a consistent and visually decent end result.
It's also very useful for editing.
Because western animation is overrun with israelites and israelites are repulsed by beauty.
moron
he's right, re-ddit commie, and the same goes for you.
not them but frick off will u
>Miyazaki
Grouchy old man, piece of shit! Narcissism!
Japanese animation can never be kino as European animation
Check Tezuka's Animerama.
The animation is choppy
whats that?
search by image (2022)
no shit moron. i am asking for your qrd
Excellent taste, it's a shame you never see this discussed here. Absolute masterpiece.
Reminds me of Aku in Samurai Jack
it already has!
kek I love that channel!
frick I haven't seen this in ages.
I'm more of a Shinkai Makoto fan myself. Miyazaki is too vanilla.
>Old hag feet
Pass
Not even really a footgay and he peaked here, hasn’t come close. Teen boy, adult woman age gap is so good. Her being a mess is so good.
Embrace the cake
>Shinkai Makoto fan myself.
>Miyazaki is too vanilla
That's ironic considering Shinkai is a vanilla copycat hack himself with his boring as frick movies that clearly takes heavily influences from the dull as shit Miyazaki films. Neither are visionaries.
Many older Disney films are better than Spirited Away.
japanese animation is trash and lifeless, the characters look and move like cut and pasted robots. disney movies from the 70s are better than anything a japanese studio has ever put out.
Japanese animation is very fluid and articulate, what are you talking about?
Summer 2021 anime
At least the characters have noses
These characters are so fricking ugly
Yiff in hell.
It's not the 70's anymore grandpa, and not all animation is made for television.
WHERE ARE THE SHADOWS?
what a tragedy of man
>Casually BTFOs all anime garbage ever made
How do Japanese pedophiles cope with this?
>spirited away
>meant for kids
>manages to express themes about adolescence in a subtle and surreal way without being edgy or overt
>arcane
>meant for teenagers
>is just characters who look like they browsed tumblr in 2012 saying shit like "welcome to my twisted world......."
fricking hell no wonder you capeshitters prefer that garbage , wtf happened to this board
>don't watch thing
>still gives his opinion about thing
shut the frick up moron
for teenagers
>>is just characters who look like they browsed tumblr in 2012 saying shit like "welcome to my twisted world......."
You clearly haven't even seen it.
>Mass replier
>Shit opinion
Checks out
Arcane is the top 1% though, an exception. 99% of current western animation is calarts garbage that's even worse than bad anime.
>169279339
(You)
not my hecking yous
Arcane and Castlevania BTFO Eastern animation hardcore.
/thread
>Arcane
Yes mostly
>Castlevania
Frick no
kino
It has.
Disney from Snow White until the 50s was kino as frick. Western animation in general was really good until the censorship laws and until some moron decided that cartoons were for kids. They never recovered.
Jungle Book which the best Disney film came out in the 60's
The plot is a mess
Arcane. Simple as.
breeding with Chihiro!
Nothing will surpass this movie.
this was boring and joyless. No real creativity
frick off. This is a 3 stars out of 5 film
too fueled by spite for its own good. This was only made because Katzenberg was bitter with Eisner and wanted to dethrone the Disney Renaissance, so he was like "i'm gonna make a 2D musical like Disney, except violent, graphic, without humor, featuring only human characters, and based on a theme Disney likes to avoid : religion. That will show them". It didn't come from the heart
Worst part about western animation is the bizarre need to shoehorn gay as frick musical numbers in all of them.
It was cringe even when I was a little kid.
I bet the Hollywood homos forced this.
So fricking kino. Absolutely mogs and rawdog assrapes every single one of e-girlcon miyazaki's gay, godless girly cartoons. Stay the course, king.
Chihiro is more likeable and endearing than any character in this
It is great
Because Western animation is too israeliteed to match the level of anime kino.
The Wind Rises is objectively better
bitch
One of my favorites
>arcane
I'm not a big fan of miyazaki but peak western animation in modern times is an adaptation of a chinese video game? that's sad
The original toy story
I love Miyazaki. Peak anti American creativity.
Based.
Also American creativity is an oxymoron.
>Also American creativity is an oxymoron.
Ironic considering how much shit you love came from America whether it be cinema or music.
>American creativity is an oxymoron.
Nip animation literally started by ripping off Disney animation.
Miyazaki movies are so fricking boring with the most bland and lifeless characters I've ever seen in any movie. No one could name a single Miyazaki movie character if their name wasn't in the title of the film itself.
>Lego movie
>Lego movie 2:the second part
>Lego ninjago movie
>Lego Batman movie
I only watch good anime
Magnetic Rose (from Memories anthology) and Belladonna of Sadness are both amazing.
This is now a good anime thread
Why did she screm?
>this shading
current anime could never
Which Golgo 13 film is this?
It's the original 80's film by TMS. There's only two animated Golgo movies and one is an OVA
Got one for Patlabor 2 by any chance?
No but I do have one for Patlabor
Thanks!
do you have Redline
If it's good, I have it.
Do you have series, too, or just films?
shows, OVAs, films.
Got one for Trigun?
Of course
Nice. Thanks, anon.
Do you have one for Cowboy Bebop?
It would be surprising if I didn't
Post one for bubblegum crisis ova
As a bonus, here's a cool spin-off series set in the Bubblegum Crisis Universe
I bet you $100 you don't have dominion tank police.
I'm a weeb but this has to be one of the most overrated anime of all time. I cannot understand the fascination with this movie. It's boring and the lessons are heavy handed or poorly supported.
BTFO
Cowboy Bebop
>Cowboy bebop
Sorry as I said I also watched it
you're just a pleb. you don't have to sugarcoat your shit taste that much.
>you're a pleb
>posts the most pleb braindead mediocre Miyazaki movie ever
You're making the other collage guy look bad with this shit
>le contrarian
the funny thing about contrarians is that they're literal NPC's. they have no objective sense of taste. If Ghibli movies weren't famous all over, they'd be recommending them around as masterpieces. This is why contrarians aren't human, they have no objective filter, nor an ability to analyze things rationally. Their entire personality is defined around standing apart from the crowd. Their sense of judgement literally begins with "I need to look special and unique", therefor they have no door to critical thought or any kind of objectivity. They're just narcissists.
>every time someone disagrees with me, they're just a contrarian and that will devalue their argument!
>buzzwords
>talking about objectivity in a subjective topic
>creating irrelevant scenarios that has nothing to do with anything and doesn't validate your point
>Talks about how others are incapable are of being rational
>more irrelevant headcanon talking points that doesn't express why someone's wrong but rather it's just you questioning their thought process in a vague opaque manner without actually going into detail articulating why this is the case
You argue like a 14 year old which explains why you're so defensive about Ghibli movies.
>accusing me of using buzzwords
>when you post this garbage
you're not even human to begin with to me. you don't operate by the basis of logic. your tastes are defined by what people like. there's people who flock to things along with the crowd, and there's people who go in the opposite direction just to be apart from the crowd. they're both driven by the same logic, except the latter is made of midwit monkeys like you who are under the illusion they're above the curve. this isn't vague or opaque, it's crystal clear. deep inside you, you know it's true. if your favourite works were popular and lapped up by everyone, they wouldn't be on your list. there's no objectivity in this kind of taste filtering, only forum brainwashing.
blah blah blah I'm not reading the rest of this drivel. Come back when you're ready to talk like an adult instead of just going
>WAAAAH YOU'RE JUST GOING AGAINST THE POPULAR OPINION BECAUSE THATS WHAT PEOPLE DO TO FIT IN
while bloating your post with what I assume is other surface level nonsense
Holy shit you're an insufferable homosexual.
HOLY BASED
>replying to your own posts
sad, take meds
It's a shame they traded this for a bunch of dogshit 3D bootleg pixar movies
Step aside, kino coming through.
the most reddit anime ever
Because western animation was never this autistic.
hahaha
FINISH THE OVERCOAT ALREADY YOU OLD FRICK! YOU CAN'T DIE BEFORE IT'S FRICKING DONE!
I didn’t get it
watership down rapes japs a new butthole. bunch of rabbits and their featherbro are deeper than anything that accursed island ever produced
You've never seen anime if you unironically believe this dumb shit.
i have seen all of anime you dumb homosexual. all of the clasics are shit.
parasite? shit
attack on titan? cringy shit
hellsing? jesus christ how can anyone admit they like that cringy shit
sword art online? lol
death note? shit
tokyo ghoul? even goths would be embarassed
steins gate? great
avatar, last airbender? shit
anime is shit
Western people are too obsessed with vapid consumerism and copying others rather than being free and dreamlike
unlike usedpantiesmachineBlack folk?
Spirited Away is shit, shit story, unlikeable characters
>shit story
what even was that free meal changing parents into pigs? is that a metaphore?
It has
Young miyazaki was an unironic communist who was ABSOLUTELY seething over the fact that every kid was watching Disney films instead of glorious Soviet animations
It was a very rare case and it's almost impossible for one to be motivated like him
It's not like 99% of japanese animation could keep up with Miyazaki's work either.
How would anyone not be able to keep up with mediocrity?
Western animation made a cartoon about a fricking MOBA trash videogame and it blows the frick out of every eastern abortion ever.
that shit sucked
>Why has Western animation never been able to match this level of kino?
Disney got so mad that Japan outclassed them in 2d that they made the switch to 3d in the 90s
Why do Japs draw themselves with white features?
>*Blocks you're path*
Western animators are incapable of doing something 2d and serious. It has to be CGI, a fricking musical, a comedy, or CalArts style.
japs cant do shit agains TRVE SOVL
How can anime compare?
there are no western animated films, they're all 3dcg now. I don't know the last time I saw a 2d feature
Anons, recommend me something good from the anime world. Stuff I've watched so far:
> Miyazaki, mostly pure kino aside from 1-2 which were okay
> Hunter x hunter also pretty kino
> Neon Genesis Evangelion with movie ending is gigakino
> Attack on Titan but it got kinda meh
>Death note but only up to Ls death
What should I watch?
Oh also watched cowboy bebop which was peak comfy. So yeah, based on this stuff, what should I watch?
>Miyazaki, mostly pure kino aside from 1-2 which were okay
These are entry level shit you grow of although Castle of Cagliostro is still a masterpiece but only because the franchise is based in general.
>Hunter x hunter also pretty kino
Watch YuYu Hakusho which is even cooler
>Neon Genesis Evangelion with movie ending is gigakino
Macross and Serial Experiments Lain. Evangelion is overrated.
>Attack on Titan but it got kinda meh
Trash
>Death note but only up to Ls death
You've nailed it.
I recommend
Monster
Casshern Sins
Cowboy Bebop
Ashita no Joe
Rose of Versailles
Legend of the Galactic Heroes
Trigun
City Hunter
Rurouni Kenshin
Samurai Champloo
>Monster
>Casshern Sins
>Cowboy Bebop
>Ashita no Joe
>Rose of Versailles
>Legend of the Galactic Heroes
>Trigun
>City Hunter
>Rurouni Kenshin
>Samurai Champloo
Thanks anon. If you had to pick one of those (aside from cowboy bebop since I watched that) which one would it be?
realistically for you I would say Monster but Legend of the Galactic Heroes is next level high IQ shit.
I agree with these especially City Hunter or my personal favorite, Ashita no Joe which is the most complex and deep character study of any anime in history. Nothing ever surpassed it.
We posting grids here?
would /animation/ be viable in Cinemaphile? for discussing all animation films, regardless of genre or type. (stop motion, anime, motion graphics/marionettes, 3d, cartoon etc)
Dreamworks already did
Dreamworks didn't make Shrek. It was Pacific Data Images
It's the worst Ghibli film. Aim higher. Cat Returns and Porco Rosso are a better target.
The way anime characters behave and talk and move, the way their faces contort, the way they sigh and moan during monologues, it is just incredibly uncanny. Can't stand it. Like watching aliens animating a mockery of humankind.
Western animation
Here's my ranking of Miyazaki Kino. They're all really close to each other so it does not mean one is much much better than the other
>Spirited away
It's the most basic choice but it's just really beautiful and expressive as frick. The atmosphere is fricking fantastic
>Mononoke
Gigakino but the ending is meh so it's not flawlessly executed
>Porco Rosso
Comfy world, PLANES, wallpaper galore. Story is comfy but nothing special
>Howls castle
Beautiful romance story, if you're into that shit it's perfect, but for me it's missing some greater meaning. But it's beautifully made
> Castle in the sky
Awesome adventure, feels really old-school (and it is). But nothing exceptional
> Nausicaa
Really interesting world, it's also cool to scifi the approach to scifi. But the theme and plot is as basic as it gets
>Totoro
I really don't get the hype. I mean it's for kids, but still. Being so revered and the mascot I honestly expected more
>Ponyo
Honestly it's really cringe at times. Also ponyo is fricking annoying
That's all that I've watched so far. Should I watch Kiki? Or something else from the newer stuff?
If you didn't watch Takahata's works in Ghibli then you should watch them. Also Mimi wo Sumaseba. Ghibli is hardly just Miyazaki.
And Kiki is great, by all means, do watch it.
>thread about animation
>still frame
blame this shitty website for not getting with the times and allowing MP4s. I'm not converting my shit to webm.
Was that done with a multiplane?
yeah the floating pieces are probably multiplane
brehs
ngnl, those straw raincoats are kino af. the gay deer was gay tho
jap troony pedo got rustled bros. and still snowhite from 100 years ago looks better than all of this good nonsense
Miyazaki is a boring pedophile who can't write interesting characters.
Miyazaki is pedo scum
lol mononoke is so pathetic
this was a convoluted and tepid bore
you're trying a bit too hard
i like some Miyazaki films, but that wasn't one of them
Howl's Moving Castle is definitely the worst Miyazaki film I've seen, and I like Miyazaki
but it has
Ew looks like some sovless indie rpg game
you and I have a very different definition of souless
none of this fancy animation matters much if the character personalities are almost nonexistent
Movies like this were Japanese people attempting to emulate the kino that was early Western animation.
Superior Japanes soul.
I'm joking, but it's crazy how this irrelevant island dominated all kind of entertainment industries. But I agree, the best of Ghibli shits all over the best of Disney.
Anime.. more like Anigay.
western animation has its moments. This 1998 film by Pacific Data Images is pure kino
Meh, Westerners focus too much on children and goofy shit.
>westerns focus too much on children... but anime, on the other hand...!
lol
Ghibli is less childish than Disney.
>Ghibli is less childish
disney is simple and charming, ghibli is the midwit moron redditor
>liking disney
>calling others redditors
c'mon mate
redditors think old disney is racist m8. but ghibli is basicaly a precursor th HRT
>he even knows what reddit thinks of each and every disney movie
>calling others redditors
c'mon mate
>he even knows what reddit thinks of each and every disney movie
nice, ghibli troony needs them strawmans to keep itself afloat. thats pretty reddit
>getting this assblasted because someone dared to insult the mouse™
>calling others redditors
c'mon mate
(you)
Your funeral will be empty.
what does stopmotion have to do with any of this?
>thread about animation
that movie isn't for children at all. it's full of insect gore and mutilation.
I love Woody Allen in it but this movie doesn't even compare to A Bug's Life.
>you have to pick a side!
no true appreciator of animation ever said this.
dumping some animation charts
even japs fell kafka meme. sad
last one
thank you for the dump, anon. I'll add this one that i have.
The zoomer who did this chart thinks that anime started in the 90s apparently.
>La Blue Girl
Japan has surpassed the west on every single field and aspect. Just imagine being born in Japan. Your first school trip was to some onsen in Hokkaido. Your first kiss was at the karaoke with some cutie. You joined the baseball bukatsu and have girls preparing onigiris for you. You get private rooms at good restaurants with your friends and drink and eat good food all night. It's so safe you don't have to worry about packs of latin americans or blacks killing you. You finish the night at a love hotel with some cutie.
Japan is god tier.
Japan died in 1945 and what you see is its rotting corpse kept artificially alive with western technology.
That being said the same can be said for Europe. All that is left is the american empire and its vassals
Why the frick would you have this saved you queer
Thats vecause pigskins are inferior
is /animation/ plausible?
no. go to Cinemaphile or Cinemaphile
both are trash. well, Cinemaphile is complete feces too, but still, i'd like a general where all kinds of animation are discussed, including stop motion and 3D.
yes because OP is the only one who gets in trouble so animation is fine.
Ok, you posted terrible bait. Now what?
Watch good anime
no such thing
It has, like every movie ever made has surpassed that
I noticed western animation seems to be trying to pass of simple slightly shit design. It all started with things like Chowder and FlapJack where there was just a shitty backgronud that didn't mesh with the characters. And then adventure time with simple designs for everything. I've seen pics of Steven Universe, never watched it because it just looks so ugly and disgusting. I remember as a kid watching animated batman and spiderman and looking back it looks so much better than the stuff now.
blame calarts
/animation/ 1st thread is up, feel free to join animationbros
No, moron. Your thread is shit.
Jews
It’s literally that simple no idea why this thread has so many replies for such an obvious fricking question
this.
just look at "western" animation. it is walt disney doing good stuff, and then nothing but israelites.
just looking at the last few post:
stephen universe, gay troony israelite.
big mouth, all israelites.
its israelites and israeli influence.
>3D
I'm going to vomit
I use this film as a litmus test for people. If they like it, they probably have a soul. If they don't, they lost their soul or their innocence or their childlike wonder somewhere along the way, and I pray for them.
Demon slayer alone mogged the entire western animation
OMG is that hecking Studio Ghibli
Literally, watch Despicable Me/Minions Movie moron
I dunno but I watched it on da Cartoon Network niggy
>Ghibli "style over substance" studio
Anybody know a good tracker to get animated short films?
I actually think this ranks up there with spirited away because of how stunning it is.