Why hasn't there been a proper horror cinematic universe (CU)? It's obvious that it would print money and be a good investment for all parties involved. It could be done in a budget-efficient manner and be one of the most profitable ventures in a now struggling Hollywood. Who would you want to see in it?
They tried and it failed out of the gates with the Mummy.
Miskatonic University and so on is an informal tie-in
Yeah, that blew
tldr rights issues
Too many disagreements between different studios (arguing over who's character should get top billing, screen time, etc.). Unfortunately despite Freddy vs. Jason's box office success, horror crossovers never exploded in popularity.
You rang?
That's more like a DU and all that entails.
>ahhhh elvira is coming after me with her breasts out
too many rights issues. Friday the 13th has always been cursed by this
Because they never all came from the same studio. And all the actual creators want each other dead
You can't tell me it wouldn't be good. You can't tell me it wouldn't be successful. Anyone who is contrarian enough to try just needs to preemptively frick off.
wouldn't a lot of one movies horror contradict another movies horror? like ghosts, zombies, slashers etc
The idea that a competent writer couldn't construct a highly competent CU when there is so much to be gained is ridiculous.
you could do it in a silly action adventure way but then you're just making marvel with horror aesethics
No, it would be actual fun and cool content.
Racking up digits for great opinions. Not surprising, haha.
They each reflect fears anxieties of a time/place. Mixing them all up is generic pink goo. Also how did extended universe end up for marvel/DC?
Nightmare on Elm street and Friday the 13th are a shred universe. There are also comic book crossovers with Army of Darkness/Evil Dead character Ash Williams so you can look at the 3 series as a whole Universe. Army of Darkness has multiple comic book crossovers with Xena, Vampirella, Marvel Zombies and others. You can kinda pick and choose what horror franchises are part of a shared universe if you want.
it wouldn't be a horror it would be a shitty action movie
Bullshit. If the cinemas want to survive, they have to give us the cinematic universe we actually want to see.
It's crazy to me that some people actually want to create an actual cool CU and others want to shit on it.
Why cant we get a good CU?
Universal horror universe was the first cinematic universe ever. Dracula, Frankenstein etc from 1930s and 1940s.
For recent years, Dark Universe tried to tap that niche and failed. Nie they moved to separate unrelated films.
Yeah. It's crazy to think how even the highly successful horror genre is less iconic now. Saw has completely dominated the genre for the last 20 years, and it's certainly in no small part thanks to its iconic villain/antihero. Given how successful the franchise has been and all the potential it has, it's just crazy to think that there's actually no one like him.
And those movies did a pretty bad job at actually using the characters properly.
Stephen King's works all take place in more or less the same world, with a shared cosmology.
I think Clive Barker's do too.
In cinema, there's too many rights issues and disagreements between studios. Freddy vs. Jason took like 15 years to happen.
Freddy Vs Jason
Puppetmaster vs Demonic Toys
Freddy vs. Jason. Man, talk about a great movie.
Big dark universe reveal next week. They changed approach. They will use theme park to build hype and then get movies on just like PotC series that starter as theme park then went into Pirate movies.
Universal Dracula and Frankenstein enters the public domain January 1, 2027.
Universal Invisible Man enters the public domain on January 1, 2029.
Pretty soon anyone can make a universal monsters crossover movie.
>cinematic universe
>Too many different people own the rights, so just being able to get everyone to agree to a project is different
>each franchise has its own unique gimmicks and traits that may conflict or not make sense or work when put next to another franchise
>very hard to balance and give each character equal footing, which is necessary because otherwise you piss off the fans and look like you’re taking sides/shitting on the other one
>it’s extremely difficult to come up with a good enough story where the characters could possibly even meet, let alone team up/fight each other without resorting to incredibly stupid retcons etc.
>actors simply might not agree to it (as seen by people like iirc Doug Bradley refusing to do proposed crossovers in the past)
>most crossovers are bad precisely because they are often forced
>when your stars are the villains, who do you use as heroes?