Why is Conan basically the only successful pulpshit who easily made the transition to comics AND lasted all these years?

Why is Conan basically the only successful pulpshit who easily made the transition to comics AND lasted all these years?

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  1. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    His creator abruptly Sudoku'd at a young age and rights went to relatives.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I think at one point Howard's father just gave the rights to his friend who was a dentist, so some random dentist's kids owned the rights in the peak 80's years.

  2. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    You know how some people claim they should have been born in an earlier century?
    Robert E. Howard was born a century too early.
    He was Chudjack long before the internet was even a concept. Read his biography and you'll see.
    We could have saved him, maybe.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      You’re barking up the wrong Howard here. You’re thinking of Lovecraft, dude literally considered himself something like a colonial Englishman as a 20th century american WASP.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >Be Robert E. Howard
        >fantasize about being a macho wild west trad-man Yes.jpg
        >hate society as a concept; all about a return to primal barbarism
        >Do multiple stories with white "goddesses" being adored by crowds of muscly blacks
        >get cucked by only gf
        >Mommy dies and you have no further reason to live
        Chudjack

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >Do multiple stories with white "goddesses" being adored by crowds of muscly blacks
          Is this actually true or just an out of context shitpost?

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            It’s true, though Howard didn’t originate that trope. It goes back to H Rider Haggard

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            he did a couple of stories where that sort of a plot point Queen of the Black Coast is the well-known one but Shadows in Zamboula and The Moon of Skulls might also count (the villain in The Moon of Skulls is noted to be mixed race which makes all the black men instinctively follow her)

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Lovecraft was a shut-in neurotic who eventually overcame his personal hangups and abuse at the hands of his mother to become a mostly normal person, in part by getting out and communicating with other sci-fi writers. In his later letters he even jokes about reading his geneology research wrong and finding out his great great grandmother was welsh.

        Robert Howard on the other hand was a neurotic man who was obsessed with strength and prowess. But most of all he was terrified of death, weakness and infirmity. His mother's death wound up being the event that pushed him over and lead to him killing himself while he was still in relatively good health, before he could become truly old.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >Be Robert E. Howard
      >fantasize about being a macho wild west trad-man Yes.jpg
      >hate society as a concept; all about a return to primal barbarism
      >Do multiple stories with white "goddesses" being adored by crowds of muscly blacks
      >get cucked by only gf
      >Mommy dies and you have no further reason to live
      Chudjack

      Hi Alan Moore.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        I could absolutely believe he posts here

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          He doesn't use the internet save for zoom interviews.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            He isn't online and uses someone else's computer when he's asked to do online interviews.

            That's what he claims so no one realizes what he's really up to.

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              I know you're being facetious, but Moore hasn't left his hometown in years. If the outside world doesn't interest him, I completely believe him when he says the online world doesn't interest him.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            He isn't online and uses someone else's computer when he's asked to do online interviews.

            I know you're being facetious, but Moore hasn't left his hometown in years. If the outside world doesn't interest him, I completely believe him when he says the online world doesn't interest him.

            I refuse that the guy who wants wendy from peter pan and dorathy from wizard of oz to get railed by horses doesn't have a personal pc for his own use

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              What makes you think that was his idea and not his wife's?

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Because vaush exists

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Is it good that I don't know what that means?

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Yes.

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              Because vaush exists

              Based Hill poster

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          He isn't online and uses someone else's computer when he's asked to do online interviews.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I sure hope that biography isn't by Sprague de Camp

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >boiling a person down to just "he was le heckin CHUD" as an entirely unironic point
      You disgust me

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        He just proving Howard right about Cityfolk.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        He was a heckin Chad though

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          He's right about cityfolk.
          You guys are full shit & are rude.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            And yet still a Chad

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            He was a heckin Chad though

            >looked like an inbred moron irl
            >self inserts as not-Conan in his own comic

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              It's not a self insert, he was dead long before

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              Are you a fricking idiot? The comics came after his death.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >He's right about cityfolk.
            >You guys are full shit & are rude.
            Oh the irony

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous
          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >call others rude
            >is rude himself

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              Country folk are notoriously rude. Where do you think the word rude comes from? They are the soul of politeness in their own tiny microcosm but they never learned to do as the Romans do, because they're sheltered hicks.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >Where do you think the word rude comes from?

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >but they never learned to do as the Romans do
                Let a desert cult spread & takeover the world?

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Romans were c**ts though
                'ate romans

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                The connotations of "rude" have changed over time. Country folk are "rude" in that they are undignified, simplistic, etc. When a country person is "rude" in the modern sense, there's a good chance he is not trying to be, it's just he doesn't know better. Comparatively, a city person is a malicious fricker, never mind his bourgeois exterior; in fact, those aspects are most certainly related.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >never mind his bourgeois exterior
                TIL working people don't live in cities.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >When a country person is "rude" in the modern sense, there's a good chance he is not trying to be, it's just he doesn't know better.
                No shit, but it's nothing to do with being "undignified, simplistic", that's extremely old-fashioned thinking. Country folk are rude because they impose themselves on strangers. People who live in cities are forced to learn how to give each other space.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >People who live in cities
                Aren't People.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                I'm not up enough on who is or isn't "people" to know what you mean by the capital letter, assuming you mean anything at all.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Don't mind him, years of inhaling cow farts mean he sometimes hits the Shift key by mistake.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      You would have turned him into Cris-Chan and you know it.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Rob was too right leaning schizo for that, no, he'd be radicalized into being a useful idiot mass shooter.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >Joker is gonna cause an incel war!

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Howard was strong, had sex, lived in the country and loved his mother. He is the opposite of a chud.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Howard was a good man, but he would have come into his own had he lived at least another thirty years. He would have loved World War II

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >here's how the man who died before I was born would have reacted to events neither of us ever experienced
        Go back to sleep, Carter.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Lin Carter?
          The old guy from Family Guy?
          The 99 year old former president?

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Doubt it, WWII was peak inglorious combat. Ride around in a tank only to get exploded. Ride around on a ship only to get exploded while you're down in the belly, burning in oil and fire and crushed by shockwaves with a hundred other men all without ever seeing your opponent. Slipping and sliding in muddy no man's land on some terrible Pacific Island, falling into pits filled with the liquefied remains and waste of your fellow soldiers, swarmed by maggots. Driven deaf by the bombs. The entire war finally ends when some engineers figured how to make rocks explode.

        WWII is where the noble warrior died.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >t. American with no idea about the WWI trenches.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            WWII was WWI but worse, anon. Everything that happened to soldiers in WWI happened in WWII but the explosions were bigger. Hell, the entire concept of air planes exploding entire ships of dudes who would have no idea if they were about to die or not was impossible until then. People memory holed it because "WWI was about nothing but WWII was about morals" but WWII was a frightening, sanity blasting, disgusting mess of a war that probably would've been worse if we hadn't ended it prematurely by creating a weapon that could wipe out the species.

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              >WWII was WWI but worse, anon. Everything that happened to soldiers in WWI happened in WWII but the explosions were bigger.
              Trench warfare was obsolete by the second war so it's self-evident that it wasn't the same thing with "bigger explosions". Try to be less of a dumbass.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Why don't you go look up how the land engagements in the Pacific island hopping went. The mention of "falling into pits of liquefied human remains, covered in maggots" didn't just come out of nowhere.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >Why don't you go look up how the land engagements in the Pacific island hopping went.
                Because I don't think it's germane, and because I suspect you only brought it up out of some misconceived desire to convince me that WWII was actually not a picnic.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >WWII was WWI but worse, anon. Everything that happened to soldiers in WWI happened in WWII but the explosions were bigger.
            Trench warfare was obsolete by the second war so it's self-evident that it wasn't the same thing with "bigger explosions". Try to be less of a dumbass.

            >Why don't you go look up how the land engagements in the Pacific island hopping went.
            Because I don't think it's germane, and because I suspect you only brought it up out of some misconceived desire to convince me that WWII was actually not a picnic.

            1/10 made a lurker reply.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      He wrote sarcastic blacked poetry, he would be addicted to /misc/ if he were around today. Probably would have meant he'd live longer, but I doubt we would have gotten kino like Conan.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        I thought that was frazetta?

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Nope.

          White form lapped by the great black arms,
          Pleas that are meant to be in vain,
          Fingers ravishing secret charms,
          Shrill sharp cries of ecstatic pain.
          Silver stars in the blue cobalt.
          Aura’d lust of a leering god;
          Ivory mingling with black basalt,
          White legs spread to a stiff black rod.

          I love the guy but he's the very image of a 1930s chud. Granted, that's being very reductive, and he had progressive opinions on women for his time and probably would have disliked the Nazis too, but he shares a lot in common with /misc/ today.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            yeah I don't know why he wrote those inter-racial love poems, but he wrote a couple of them, like here's one between an Indian woman and an Englishman
            Near a million dawns have burst Scarlet over Jakko's hill Since our burning kisses first Mingled in the twilight still, In the magic, sapphire dusk when our passions drank their fill.
            I remember how the moon Floated over shadowed dells And the mellow mystic tune Of the tinkling temple bells Ere Siddertha's people turned to the braying sea-conch shells.
            Lips to scarlet lips we pressed Ah, your eyes were star lit meres As your tresses I caressed Calmed your modest virgin fears Love upon an Indian night, love to last a thousand years.
            Fades the rosy dawn as slow Morning flames across the plain; With a sigh I turn and go Humming some old time refrain To the consul house as day over Simla breaks again.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            yeah I don't know why he wrote those inter-racial love poems, but he wrote a couple of them, like here's one between an Indian woman and an Englishman
            Near a million dawns have burst Scarlet over Jakko's hill Since our burning kisses first Mingled in the twilight still, In the magic, sapphire dusk when our passions drank their fill.
            I remember how the moon Floated over shadowed dells And the mellow mystic tune Of the tinkling temple bells Ere Siddertha's people turned to the braying sea-conch shells.
            Lips to scarlet lips we pressed Ah, your eyes were star lit meres As your tresses I caressed Calmed your modest virgin fears Love upon an Indian night, love to last a thousand years.
            Fades the rosy dawn as slow Morning flames across the plain; With a sigh I turn and go Humming some old time refrain To the consul house as day over Simla breaks again.

            I looked up these poems and I found an article that talked about the issue of race in his works and I also found this
            >Howard’s “knowledge” of these women was first hand, he frequented black prostitutes locally

  3. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    He was friends with H.P. Lovecraft and his circle of writers, right? Also, I loved the cartoon as a kid. "Conan the Adventurer".

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >He was friends with H.P. Lovecraft and his circle of writers, right?
      Yes and Conan is canon to the Yog mythos.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Has Conan ever fought anything from the Lovecraft mythos?

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Conan has never explicitly wrestled a deep one or punched a Mi-Go in its eye clusters, but there are a number of REH stories about Conan which have him tangling with and defeating (or sometimes merely surviving) cosmic horror aliens. Tower of the Elephant is one. The Scarlet Citadel is another (with an absolutely delightful 'friendly' sorcerer who would no doubt exchange friendly letters with the evil warlocks in The Case of Charles Dexter Ward under different circumstances). Xuthal of the Dusk, though generally dismissed as being purely for the cash, has Conan coming to grips with some sort of eldritch monster and barely surviving.

          REH also wrote some straight-up tales of Yog-Sothery, as well as quite a few more traditional ghost and monster horror stories. Yog-Sothery dwells in the background of the Solomon Kane stories, where the staff Solomon Kane gets from an African sorcerer ends up being older than the human race, and far more powerful than even his friend knew.

          The seethe this character would illicit from this board alone would crack the internet in half.

          Kane doesn't actually spend too much time in Howard's stories proselytizing, though. I don't think he ever comments on the validity of other Abrahamic religions or sects within Christianity. He comes to (very grudgingly) accept that there are powerful, and not necessarily malicious, spirits and ways of magic that exist outside his understanding of God.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            You can cope all you want but end of the day Kane even while acknowledging the benefit of other strange gods and powers was wholly dedicated to Jehovah who he accredited to every good and prosperous turns that came his way in his journeys

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              Glory to Jehovah I guess. If we accredit every good and prosperous turn to him then he must be a pretty cool dude.

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              >You can cope all you want
              Not everything has to be a fight, anon.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Xuthal of the Dusk has always gotten unfair treatment. The setup where the city's people accept their relationship with the predatory alien - partly out of fatalism and partly because doing something about it would require putting down the bong for five minutes - is really strong and gives the whole story a unique tone. The adventure and action is solid, and the city of Xuthal itself is a cool setting with its vaguely sci-fi feel. The critics almost always latch onto stuff that barely impacts the story, like the sidekick girl being thinly characterized or the supposed tastelessness of the whipping scene, to justify giving it a lower rating.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Thanks m8, gonna check those 3 stories out. Sounds interesting.

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              I should point out, Gutenberg Australia has a better chunk of Howard's pulp fiction, and not just the Conan stories, available for free in multiple formats. It's just a shame some stuff isn't there, like the Dark Agnes stories, but oh well.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >The Scarlet Citadel
            Pelias is one of the top bros Conan had and the whole segment is beyond hilarious.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Didn't Shuma-Gorath come from Conan?

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              He's mentioned by name (with no details) in a Kull story. Incidents where he crossed paths with Conan were from the pastiche comics, not REH himself.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Conan has never explicitly wrestled a deep one or punched a Mi-Go in its eye clusters, but there are a number of REH stories about Conan which have him tangling with and defeating (or sometimes merely surviving) cosmic horror aliens. Tower of the Elephant is one. The Scarlet Citadel is another (with an absolutely delightful 'friendly' sorcerer who would no doubt exchange friendly letters with the evil warlocks in The Case of Charles Dexter Ward under different circumstances). Xuthal of the Dusk, though generally dismissed as being purely for the cash, has Conan coming to grips with some sort of eldritch monster and barely surviving.

          REH also wrote some straight-up tales of Yog-Sothery, as well as quite a few more traditional ghost and monster horror stories. Yog-Sothery dwells in the background of the Solomon Kane stories, where the staff Solomon Kane gets from an African sorcerer ends up being older than the human race, and far more powerful than even his friend knew.

          [...]
          Kane doesn't actually spend too much time in Howard's stories proselytizing, though. I don't think he ever comments on the validity of other Abrahamic religions or sects within Christianity. He comes to (very grudgingly) accept that there are powerful, and not necessarily malicious, spirits and ways of magic that exist outside his understanding of God.

          >Conan has never explicitly wrestled a deep one or punched a Mi-Go in its eye clusters
          He does stab a ghoul that's straight out of Pickman's Model.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Wait, when did that happen?

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              The Hour of the Dragon.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Huh, you're right. Chapter 12. Had completely forgotten about it.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            The Hour of the Dragon.

            You're right, I'd forgotten. The 'dog-like' description definitely indicates they're Lovecraft ghouls. I wonder how please Howard was at that nod, he always seemed really fond of his ghouls, considering how frequently they turn up.

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              >dog-like ghouls
              Huh... I wonder if that's why "Thouls" were a thing in D&D.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Wait nevermind, I got several monster mixed, wow.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      him and lovecraft would literally send shitpost letters to each other for fun

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >Lovecraft starts having nightmares about his creations becoming real
        >Howard tells him not to worry because anything he could imagine, Conan could defeat it

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Aww, that's nice.

  4. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Enough Conan. Solomon kino when?

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      The seethe this character would illicit from this board alone would crack the internet in half.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        bleh, if Mormons and their wacky space opera is still considered 'Christian' than Islam worships the same god as israelites and Christians. Allah is not a different god. In fact, Allah is pretty consistent with the war hungry psychotic sociopath of the Bible.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Stay mad forever Atheoid, your ignorance is matched only by your arrogance.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          It is literally the same god. They're called the Abrahamic Religions because they all worship the God of Abraham and recognize Abraham as the first prophet.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      How about the real Red Sonja, a kind of black sea pirate?

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Tbh, its a single short story, versus a comic book character with her own squad of gooner.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Eh, it's more than Dark Agnes ever got.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Have you seen the 2009 film starring James Purefoy?

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >James Kinofoy
        >Rachel Hurd-Wood
        The movie could have been better, but the cast was solid.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Conan and Kane and Kull are all well and good but Howard was a much funnier writer than he gets credit for. His Steve Costigan and Breckinridge Elkins stories are great “action comedies.” I think Elkins brought him the most success in his own lifetime.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Yeah, he wrote fun stories. I recommend 'A Man-Eating Jeopard' one of his western stories.
        https://www.gutenberg.net.au/ebooks13/1304201h.html

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      What's a good place to start reading Solomon Kane?

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Wings in the Night

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Thanks!

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      If you're a Kane enjoyer I invite you to discover Jon Shannow

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        I'll check it out bud thanks

  5. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    It's actually a very interesting question. Conan as a character has stood the test of time, being popular for almost 100 years, but he's not even a hero. MAYBE an antihero at some points, but for the most part he's just a bastard who likes to drink, fight and frick. I guess that's endearing

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      There was so little written about him by his creator, and his character so thinly characterized, that Conan was ripe for use by other creatives.
      To the extent that practically no one has read the original works, and easily accept complete bastardizations of it.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        this is one of the dumbest fricking things i've ever read as par the course for Cinemaphile

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          I own the collected Conan writings by Howard (they have a nice collected volume). He is not a particularly complex character at all.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            He’s not complex but he is deep sometimes.

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              He's raised amongst xenophobic barbarians, gets intrigued by civilization, acts all smug about how much better he is than it, but can't stop being a parasite on it, robbing and pilfering and occasionally tripping against some demons.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                That's like saying Vikings could not survive without their raids, obviously not true.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Also, the Conan known to 95% of people is the Ahnold version, which is laughably inaccurate to Conan the novel in both looks and character.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            How did he really look?

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        So your just gonna put your ignorance on display for everyone huh?

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Maybe is the simplicity of a savage man living in savage times that makes it so versatile.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I don't think you know much of anything about "traditional heroism".

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Conan is the archetypal example of a barbarian hero, he's amoral but does have some standards. If someone is truly his friend, conan will repay their kindness in turn and is loyal to a fault to his allies. He also kills mostly only those who are truly evil or attack him first. He then becomes the good king of aquilonia and considers all of his people part of his "tribe". Thus hurting his people is disrespecting him, and conan will not stand for that. He does have a code of honor and generally repays kindness or hostility in turn. If you're nice to him and generally try to help him, conan will watch your back until the end of days. If you're hostile to him, there's no greater opponent you could face. Even then conan doesn't really care for politics, machinations, or religion. He lives as he sees fit regardless of what anyone tells him to do. Also he always saves the damsel and abhors rape

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        In all the adaptions and stories made did they ever do a Mordred situation of Conan having an evil bastard possibly sired by a magical being?

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          I think there was a tabletop game with a plot like that but no, not Conan himself

  6. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    The Frazetta covers established a perfect visual language for him.
    With all due respect for Howard's writing, the 70's book covers are what really saved the character

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      The fact that there's never been a published version of Howard's unbastardized text with Frazetta covers is a tragedy.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        I’ve never understood this huge obsession people have with Frazetta tbh. Yes he was a very skilled draughtsman but he didn’t care about fantasy, he never even read the stuff he illustrated. By his own admission he was an extremely superficial artist.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          I think it's the prehistoric aesthetic he injects in his work

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Cause most people's vision of Conan and such mostly came from his art

          If you've seen pre-Frazetta Conan depictions you'll know what I'm talking about

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          He's good. He made good art, it's not complicated. I don't care what he did in his free time.

  7. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    >Saying that the general public hasn't read Howard's original stories full on fricking delusion on your part
    It would be shocking if 1 person in 100 has even skimmed them. There's only one full novel in the whole lot, the rest are just short stories.
    Now if we magically went back to pre-WW2, sure a lot of sci-fi/fantasy nerds (such as they existed back then) were very familiar with them from the periodical releases.
    Like Timely's Captain Marvel, the original stuff is beyond niche.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >Timely
      >Captain Marvel
      what

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Read through them all last year and for the most part were very enjoyable

  8. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    This is true, you can clearly see the development of Conan from the stories when he's young in his early twenties thieving and pillaging to the older Conan in his late 30s who's still thieving and pillaging but as a leader of a gang who all respect him

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      If you actually read the stories, he's barely ever actually thieving and pillaging. It usually starts off that he's just survived some dubiously moral exploit, runs into "Bad Guys", and takes out the badguys. His gang/crew are either recently dead or just about to die.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        I like the one that starts with a princess asking Crom for help and then she finds Conan piss drunk in an alley

  9. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    He's a pirate; does less actual piracy than Luffy
    Then he's a brigand/bandit, does no brigandry.
    He DOES attempt thievery a few times, burglary really, and it always ends up in Demons.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      He was the most feared pirate in the hyborian age for year on end, and was a legendary outlaw in multiple nations across the world. What are you talking about?

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        We never see him doing those things though. We only ever see him in situations where he's an anti-hero at worst. Even when he's with Belit, all the piracy happens offscreen.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          This is what I was trying to infer. He's always this Notorious Whatever but he's just killing Evil Wizards, Demons and rescuing damsels in the actual stories.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          This is what I was trying to infer. He's always this Notorious Whatever but he's just killing Evil Wizards, Demons and rescuing damsels in the actual stories.

          Read The People of the Black Circle

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        I’m trying to think of every occupation Conan had.
        Thief/cat burglar
        Solider
        Mercenary
        Warlord
        Pirate
        Pirate Captain
        Bodyguard
        Assassin
        General
        King
        I think there’s one story where someone had hired him to train their army and act as kind of a consultant in their war, not sure if mercenary covers that.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Oh I forgot the ones where’s in that frontier fort and he’s like a scout/ranger

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >I think there’s one story where someone had hired him to train their army and act as kind of a consultant in their war, not sure if mercenary covers that.
          You're remembering right. He acts as a general there, though, so I think you have it covered.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      His bloody pirate career is one of his most notorious character aspects. It leads to the brother of one of the men he killed trying to get revenge, in one case. In another, he immediately begins plotting murder and mutiny the moment another pirate ship rescues him (and succeeds, at that). There's at least a couple of stories where he commands bandit not-cossacks, though the kingdom he's raiding is just as despicable.

      Howard just usually keeps the actual sausage-making of piracy or outlawry off the page, I suspect because he wants the reader on Conan's side. But Conan would absolutely kill you for your stuff if you wouldn't give it up, or if you were guarding something he wanted. And he wouldn't feel the least bit sorry about it, either.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Conan's balancing for being a murderer and a thief mostly comes from his sense of fair play. He doesn't pick on weaklings unless they (stupidly) antagonize him. He doesn't take from people who don't have anything, anyway. In a choice between selfish gain or helping a blameless person in imminent danger, he'll play the (grudging) hero, especially if it's some big-titted girl-of-the-week. He treats people who fight beside him, serve under him, or exist under his rule very well if they play fair with him, because he has a peculiar tribal sense of responsibility towards them.

  10. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    >Saying that the general public hasn't read Howard's original stories full on fricking delusion
    "general public" is a very loaded term, most people think of Arnie Conan first and aren't well read at all, let alone 90 year old writing.

  11. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    everyone else sucks at it

  12. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    The Shadow did pretty well for a long time.

  13. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Why are YouTube spergs so triggered by double headed axes? They were literally used against Calvary throughout ancient history. Heck native Americans made double headed tomahawk's for throwing.

    ?si=BFNSrdgAI8HMRkRk

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Dunning-Kruger effect, basically

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I'm not watching your shitty youtube video but I will answer your question. A symmetrical double-bitted battleaxe is almost twice the weight for no practical purpose and I doubt you can find a non-ceremonial example of one. The double-headed axes you're thinking about being commonly used by and against cavalry looked more like this.

  14. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    He's a simple hero.

  15. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Tarzan and (for a distant third place) Zorro must also count

    They were going strong in comics for a while but the rights people lost interest in licensing

    Busiek and Dark Horse were in the right place and time to keep Conan goingxij the early 2000s

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Tarzan was more successful than Conan in its day.
      Now it doesn't seem like that because the Tarzan theme would be pretty racist nowadays or IP trolling.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        This is true, I'd argue that Tarzan was massive during the 20th century and its last high-profile thing was probably the Disney film

        Nowadays I think it has more to do with them not knowing what to do with the franchise

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >its last high-profile thing was probably the Disney film
          There was at least that movie with Sam L. Jackson a few years back, though it wasn't on the same scope.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >Tarzan and (for a distant third place) Zorro must also count
      Came here to mention them.
      Does Sherlock Holmes count?

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Sherlock is pre-pulp, I don't know if Penny Dreadful stories would be considered Pulp even if they filled the same niche of disposable junk
        Sexton Blake would count as a pulp character 100%

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Precursor for modern pulps.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >I don't know if Penny Dreadful stories would be considered Pulp
          The penny dreadful characters who caught on with the public came in three types: Dick Turpins (villains romanticized as heroes), Varneys (sympathetic villains) and Sweeney Todds (villains with no redeeming qualities). Can't think of any who were popular ones who were just plain heroic.

          I can only assume much of the seethe towards the Shadow on Cinemaphile comes from the fact that he has explicitly been a foe of Bolsheviks

          >Anastasia
          Why do they always make her look half her age and angelic?

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            She was 17

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              I know, but they always make her look an ingenue of 8 or 10. Is 17 considered an unsympathetic age or something?

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                I don't know where you're seeing that because she just looks like a cartoon version of herself in that pic, maybe the lack of detail in her features is messing with you?

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Probably panels 3-6 where she's drawn as a literal infant is what's messing with him.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Ah, now i see it. Well a lot of her pics were from when she was younger, and her most popular photograph is from 1914 which doesn't convey how much she's grown

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Her simplified face is part of it, but also things like her stubby doll arms in panel 6.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Her sole claim to fame is "child murder victim", naturally people imagine her younger than she was. Alexei was 13.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >Does Sherlock Holmes count?
        No. Holmes was printed in upmarket magazines like Beeton's Christmas Annual and the Strand.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        In my book yes.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      They probably should count. I do wish they'd do more with Tarzan now a days, but it seems like his rights holders don't really feel like it anymore. Heck, from what I gather it's still tough to getting a relatively modern printing of the full collection.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >Heck, from what I gather it's still tough to getting a relatively modern printing of the full collection.
        Not necessarily a bad thing. Like with most Burroughs series, there's a sharp decline in quality after the first few books.

  16. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Because he had a highly successful and still popular movie in the 80s. That’s why people know and care about Conan as an IP even if they don’t read the books.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      [...]
      >Saying that the general public hasn't read Howard's original stories full on fricking delusion on your part
      It would be shocking if 1 person in 100 has even skimmed them. There's only one full novel in the whole lot, the rest are just short stories.
      Now if we magically went back to pre-WW2, sure a lot of sci-fi/fantasy nerds (such as they existed back then) were very familiar with them from the periodical releases.
      Like Timely's Captain Marvel, the original stuff is beyond niche.

      No. Conan was popular genre fiction in the 70s and a ground-level contributor to the D&D fad, which pretty much defined subsequent pop-culture fantasy until this day. People know who Conan is like people know what the Lord of the Rings is without having to watch ten hours of boring movies: he thinly but thoroughly pervades the whole genre.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >a ground-level contributor to the D&D fad
        Yeah people miss this. Of course it's cause they confuse it with Lovecraft, but most of the actual way modern fantasy settings interact with Lovecraftian monsters is more like Conan than any actual Lovecraft penned story. Obviously the two were good friends and it's not unlikely this sort of stuff bled into Conan from Lovecraft, but it's also just the general fictional zeitgeist at the time too. Lovecraft defined the category, but the actual implementation of it is clearly from Howard and then adaptations of his stories.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >it's not unlikely this sort of stuff bled into Conan from Lovecraft
          lots of Lovecraft stuff is referenced and mentioned in the Conan stories.
          what do you mean "not unlikely" when that's literally the case

  17. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    It had a successful movie. It's that easy.

  18. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >Why is Conan basically the only successful pulpshit who easily made the transition to comics AND lasted all these years?
    Because L. Sprague de Camp had bills to pay.

  19. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Because Marvel picked it up and published it making sure it was kept in relevancy , without Marvel it would've been dead in the water like all the others.

    You can cope now.

  20. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Cinemaphile has the only good Conan threads, Same with Cinemaphile & Star Wars.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      It's Anon's Law
      The best discussions for a certain topic are invariably found in off-topic threads on other boards.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        /d/ is the best place to talk about comics.

  21. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >"You see, girl, when a civilization begins to decay and die, the only thing men or women think about is the gratification of their body's desires. They become preoccupied with sex. It colors their laws, their religion --every aspect of their lives.
    >"Listen to me. When you have a dying civilization, the normal, accepted lifestyle ain't strong enough to satisfy the damned insatiable appetites of the courtesans and, finally, of all the people. They turn to Lesbianism and things like that to satisfy their desires."

  22. 2 weeks ago
    Boco

    He's so easy to plop into any story.

    Although REH's other stuff is great too. Can't wait for the crossover this fall.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I do find it weird that titan is going full hog for crossover when it's only just been a year since they started the comic line

      • 2 weeks ago
        Boco

        Marvel did too, oddly. The second time, I mean.

        Fine with me. How did I not know about Kirowan and Conrad until last week?

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          because most of their stories are rarely republished the only reason i know of kirowan was looking up random audible books that had the darkest dungeon guy narrating them and he did one of Kirowan stories (haunter of the ring) in a story collection that i don't think. you can buy now.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Boco

            Well frick, thats a shame.

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              yeah just looked it up it was a collection called people of the dark which include some interesting REH stories like a proto conan story and the round robin he did with Lovecraft i'm not sure what book you can get these stories from now

  23. 2 weeks ago
    anon

    >howard was suicidal and lovecraft a xenophobic shut in
    is normalcy the price to pay for creativity?

    • 2 weeks ago
      Boco

      Wasn't he only suicidal after his mom died?

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        https://en.wikisource.org/wiki/The_Tempter
        Although this poem was only published after he died and it's not entirely clear when he wrote it.

  24. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    /co/nan, what is best in life?

  25. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous
    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I fricked her

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Conan looks like a beaten stepchild. No Frazetta girl ever wore an expression like that.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >No Frazetta girl ever wore an expression like that.

        Hard to tell honestly.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Frazetta's girls have only two, non-exclusive facial expressions: I'ma frick you, and I'ma frick you up.

  26. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Did you know, that Conan's blue eyes are integral to the setting? And not just because they're blue, but because of their shade of blue

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      "Smouldering" is not a shade

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Aesir and vanir also have blue eyes, but they're not like the blue eyes of Atlantean descendants

  27. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    It's odd. I can't get into pulp.
    I like 19th-century Gothic fiction and I like pulp-influenced comic books, but every time I directly read pulp, I have a hard time maintaining interest, though I've only tried Howard and Lovecraft stories so far. What are the absolute best pulp stories?

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      most pulp was bad, cheap garbage, its where the name comes from. The IDEA of "pulp" has been thoroughly romanticized by modern media tributes and adaptions. Essentially a kind of grand pulp mythology has been constructed over time, that's elevated cheap dogshit exploitation novels to an exalted level.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Almost anything too good ceases to be pulp by definition. Galaxy, for example, was a pulp magazine publishing fiction but it's too intellectual to be "pulp fiction".

        >I've only tried Howard and Lovecraft stories so far.
        Try Dashiell Hammett and Jack Vance. If you don't like them either, you can probably write off pulp.

        The Shadow pulps are great if you don't mind all the racism. The Shadow is Batman but better in that he builds a network of agents to do must of his work rather than just trying to do everything himself. Most of the stories are told from the point of view of Harry Vincent, man about town and also the stand in for the reader. The Shadow is also not afraid of bloodshed and killing, although he prefers to let the bad guys go to their own doom. The hard boiled detective pulps in the 30s and 40s are also good.

        I love how you phrase this like the majority of this board doesn't have an almost psychotic obsessive hatred of pulp and you feel like an outsider

        Thank you, gents. I'll try Hammett, Vance, and The Shadow.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        I love how you made this seething reply when most if not all ((modern)) literature is absolutely putrid dogshit compared to even random pulp stories I picked up on a whim from a 1930's issue of Weird Tales or Amazing Stories.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >Most literature dogshit, anon obsessed with israelites, news at 11

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Almost anything too good ceases to be pulp by definition. Galaxy, for example, was a pulp magazine publishing fiction but it's too intellectual to be "pulp fiction".

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >I've only tried Howard and Lovecraft stories so far.
      Try Dashiell Hammett and Jack Vance. If you don't like them either, you can probably write off pulp.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Add Edgar Rice Burroughs too.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          As points on a square he's somewhere between Howard and Vance, I was going for maximum coverage in fewest authors.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          great pic

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      The Shadow pulps are great if you don't mind all the racism. The Shadow is Batman but better in that he builds a network of agents to do must of his work rather than just trying to do everything himself. Most of the stories are told from the point of view of Harry Vincent, man about town and also the stand in for the reader. The Shadow is also not afraid of bloodshed and killing, although he prefers to let the bad guys go to their own doom. The hard boiled detective pulps in the 30s and 40s are also good.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >That Schnoz

        Italian or israeli?

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Just another disguise.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        The Shadow wasn't nearly racist enough, he had a black guy as a henchman who was not only a good guy but portrayed as strong and cunning, despite allegations of yellow peril there's an equal amount of respect for the orient and good ching chongs who assist and respect him and the character has been associated with some level of orientalism for decades

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          99% of this “problematic” stuff was made by liberals. Amos and Andy were card carrying lifelong democrats.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          And now the democrats are gay ass totalitarian fruitcakes

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          That doesn’t change the fact that the writing may come off slightly racist due to the attitudes and ideas of what passes for acceptable. I don’t think anyone claims Shadow is just as racist as day Fu Manchu (and before Fu Manchu fanboys get upset the writing itself and how it repeatedly harps about race war where white man is under threat from China etc. is pretty racist even when Fu as a character is written as having ridiculous level of honour, etc.). There is an inherent yellow peril fearmongering aspect to a lot of old pulp IPs due to the way attitudes at the time were, and how pulp fiction regularly treated and depicted Asians as bombastic villains. You can’t pretend it doesn’t come from a racist place of mind even in cases where it isn’t overt and dominate the story.

          And I say that as a Charlie Chan/Mr. Moto fan.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            am I supposed to give a shit if a story is racist or not or what

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I love how you phrase this like the majority of this board doesn't have an almost psychotic obsessive hatred of pulp and you feel like an outsider

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Most people either like it or don't care about it enough to discuss it. It's a very vocal few that actually hate it.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        The frick are you talking about?

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        No pulp heroes have maintained any real level of popularity except for Batman and that's because people just aren't interested in pulp adventures.
        The problem is that pulp heroes had their style of storytelling evolve via superhero comics which quickly displaced them due to being more fantastical and engaging. Pulp stories, as the precursors to modern cape/action-adventure fiction, just feel too stereotypical and dated in their style to have mass appeal.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Pulp style adventures are alive and well on film, which has displaced magazines as the medium for trashy fiction. They were never displaced by superheroes, which remain niche - if the very recent upswing of big budget superhero media is more than temporary and represents an actual cultural adoption I'll eat my own ass. "Pulp stories feel too stereotypical and dated in their style to have mass appeal - unlike SUPERHEROES" jesus frick me.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Hey you FRICKING moron, capeshit comics didn't replace pulp, actual books did, particularly mass market paperback of genre fiction. Even Frank Herbert and Robert Heinlein, who write the big boy sci-fi everyone praises, got their start as pulp magazine writers who simply transitioned to writing full-length novels.
          Also pretty funny how you croon on about relevancy like capeshit characters aren't one fricking hair's bredth away from total obscurity given the state Marvel is only a few years since Endgame came out.

  28. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    not pulp, but pre-Superman
    Popeye lives on

  29. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Thanks for reminding me to read the FCBD issue I got

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      One week later and it's been read
      Looks like they're setting up a side event story that ties together like a half dozen "Howardverse" characters
      And also later this year they'll be adapting Frost Giant's Daughter

  30. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    He doesn't just mimic Tolkien, but his stories are a bit better than standard pulpshit.
    This makes him a great source of material for people who want a fantasy story but don't just want another elves/dwarves/wizards kill the evil overlord plot. The concept is simple enough and basic enough to easily adapt to whatever you need, even to expand on it, while still having a classic angle. It's about a hero who goes out and kills the bad guys, but grabs some classic mythology from Gilgamesh and Heracles along the way.

    Compared to a lot of similar material, other stories are either more specific (Elric of Melborne can't stray far from pasty white wizard dude with a sword) or a lot more shit. Conan is a thief and a prince, but you can easily leave that in the corner and write a good Conan story. Or you could have one where those skills or traits become highly relevant, helping him stand out from the other axe-wielding barbarian characters who look similar.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Helps that it doesn't have just fantasy but a prehistoric fantasy feeling to it

  31. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Am I the only one around here reading the Titan Conan comics?

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anybody

      Nope. Actually the Titan Conan comics are pretty
      good, so far. Worth reading material for sure.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I think someone story timed the run recently? Seemed pretty good.

  32. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Wasn't there some good king arthur and/or round table stories from the pulp era? Or am I thinking of some one else?

    Otherwise, I'm sad Doc Savage didn't survive to modern day.

  33. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    very pulpy don't you think

  34. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Because he was in Super Smash Bros. Ultimate, which boosted comic sales.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >Konami spends 20 years making the Belmonts/Castlevania protags either pretty boys(I love Kojima but her Simon ain't it) or generic western fantasy
      >Nintendo steps in and brings back peak barbarian Simon

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I would like to get lost in his eyes.

      I would like to get lost in his eyes.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      The only Belmonts I'll accept as thin pretty boys are Leon (a landed noble), Juste, (the most magic focused of his bloodline), and Julus (he completely forgot that who he was after killing Dracula forever in 1999; had no reason to keep up the family physique).

      Everyone else are musclebound supermen.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Leon was a Crusader knight iirc, I'd prefer thin pretty boy Richter if anything
        Plus even if Kojima bishied them up they were still all drawn fairly muscular

  35. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    So how many pulp characters is your favorite?

  36. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    How many pulp characters do we have exactly?

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Here's a starting point
      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Characters_in_pulp_fiction

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      There were thousands. Pulp magazines were so widespread that it was almost unbelievable.

  37. 2 weeks ago
    sage

    Elric of Melnibone? Darth of Vader?

  38. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous
    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Hey it's that nice elephant alien who was trapped by a wizard

      • 2 weeks ago
        Boco

        He's in the new Titan comics, too.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Drawn in a strangely sexy way, as well.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >Zimbabwei
      >Iranistan
      Howard you hack!

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        No anon you don't understand, it takes place in prehistory after the sinking of atlants, before the last ice age and the rise of the sons of aryas

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Also worth keeping in mind that modern Zimbabwe was not called Zimbabwe in Howard's time, but Rhodesia. Howard's "Zimbabwei" has its name derived from Great Zimbabwe, a historical city believed to have been the center of an ancient kingdom about 3000 years ago.

          Howard did his work.

  39. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    I'd say that pulp heroes were generally more "tough guys"; although they had sufficient moral sense to play the hero it was more about being badass than being an example of conduct

  40. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    They're heavy metal heroes before the genre was a thing

  41. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    If you're asking if they're cute and cuddly Comics Code Authority confections, then the answer is no (and that's a good thing).

  42. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    In one story the whole plot is driven by Conan trying to rape someone.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      That was justified however, she was literally asking for it

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Asking for it magically, it was rape fever mind control

  43. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    >I get mad at imaginary things

    Get a better hobby.

  44. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    What's the different between those two category?

  45. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    It's really sad to know how much Howard's suicide affected Lovecraft negatively.

  46. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    >Lets face reality no one gives a damn about the adventures of some half naked jungle man
    Sad state of affairs. We need more jungle man/caveman stuff.

  47. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I can only assume much of the seethe towards the Shadow on Cinemaphile comes from the fact that he has explicitly been a foe of Bolsheviks

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Bolshies! Frick me you're a delightful throwback.

  48. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >schlock thread
    Pulp died out for a reason. You can't make random adventures interesting unless you have a good character.

    >but muh conan muh shadow muh buck Roger's
    Not interesting

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      You’re a slop-addled dipshit

  49. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Also, most of these pulp characters are pussies.

  50. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    thread
    >Pulp died out for a reason. You can't make random adventures interesting unless you have a good character.

    >>but muh conan muh shadow muh buck Roger's
    >Not interesting

    >Also, most of these pulp characters are pussies.

  51. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Because the rest either are public domain or had their style bit so hard by comics they'd come off like a copy.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      This is a legit take

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        No, it isn't. There are broad styles of pulp that comics never really went into nearly as much, most obviously detective and sci fi, and Conan is more in the public domain than most. It's a dumb take.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          It's also a fricking stupid take because

          Flashman isn't quite pulp but it's certainly pulp adjacent.
          I would love a comic adaptation.

          is a series of books where the author took a bully antagonist character from a public domain book and did a whole series of novels imagining what that antagonist's life as an adult was

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Anon the OP is about heroes not genres. Pulp heroes all died off because comics did what they did better. Simple as that. Then again there is always the possibility that nobody cares about them because they were never that good to begin with. Who knows most likely both.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            How dare you etc

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >Pulp heroes all died off because comics did what they did better.
            Not really, Marvel doesn't have heroes they have celebrities with powers.

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              Of all the things you got wrong, I'm just gonna point out Marvel wasn't gonna be a thing for decades back then.

  52. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Flashman isn't quite pulp but it's certainly pulp adjacent.
    I would love a comic adaptation.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      What makes Flashman great is his narrative voice. That wouldn't translate well into comic book form.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Narration squares?

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Versus seventy-eighty thousand words of snarky in-character memoirs for any given book? It's just not adaptable.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Your probably right, even the movie was embarrassing.
            I do like how he'll meet some random inventor or artist and immediately dismiss them a bore or kook.
            Decrying Bismarck as a "dangerous lunatic" was probably the most Anglo thing imaginable.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      You could probably call Sharpe pulp adjacent too

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        You could call a lot of stuff "pulp adjacent". The definition doesn't stand up to stretching any more than the paper.

  53. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Alan Moore is still jealous of Two-Gun Bob.
    He got boys to read.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I think Moore has maybe mentioned Conan twice and Howard once in his whole career, and the latter case was in an instance of him mentioning the former.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        He did write that assmad tirade.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Yes, that was one of the two examples I was thinking of. But "tirade" implies a long rant. IIRC it was a couple of lines tops, then he moved on to a different topic.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Hi Alan.

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              A man can like REH and Moore both, anon.

              Tirade is wrong, It was a character assassination.

              Did Howard never mischaracterize anyone in his letters?

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                REH's letters where private.
                Moore was spewing hate out for the whole world to see.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                I accept your concession.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Well Robert won anyhow he doesn't have to disown Conan every 5 minutes like Moore does with Rorschach.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Mighty hard to quiz a corpse.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Alan go take those snakes out of your bunghole.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Moore is generally a tedious c**t and prone to projection, to boot. He does some pretty interesting creative work (or did), but shouldn't be given the use of your ear beyond that.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                In every single Alan Moore comic something horrid always happens to a woman.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Go back to bed, Morriosn.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                I just genuinely think he has a monster rape & bestiality kink.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Tirade is wrong, It was a character assassination.

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              Moore was just parroting De Camp, I wouldn't blame him that much since it took decades for De Camp to be discredited

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              That's all he ever writes anyway

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                You've never read a Moore comic.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          It wasn't assmad. It's part of a much longer essay (3 small paragraphs of a 10-pager) regarding sexism in comics, published in 1983. Yes, that part of it is both poorly researched (regarding the comics) and misinformed (via L. Sprague de Camp's libelous biographies of REH), but the level of upset that tiny portion caused is still pretty crazy.
          At the end of the essay, Moore tells the readers:
          >If there's anybody out there who has actually managed to wade through all this verbiage and come out the other side with their marbles intact, I'd very much like to hear what you think either for or against. Is there a problem here, or am I exaggerating? Does anything need doing about it and if so what? Write and let me know.
          >Take six pages explaining exactly why I'm the most boring and arrogant scumbag ever to walk the face of the earth if you must, but write. You, after all, are the reader. You pay the wages. And on the strength of that alone I reckon you've got some say in what sort of attitudes the comic industry is shoving down your throats. Look forward to hearing from you.
          If anyone did write in to correct him, it must have gotten lost somewhere because the magazine was shortly canceled due to low sales.

          Moore is generally a tedious c**t and prone to projection, to boot. He does some pretty interesting creative work (or did), but shouldn't be given the use of your ear beyond that.

          I mostly like his comics, but his interviews are pretty interesting too.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >his interviews are pretty interesting too.
            His audio interviews are great because they show you something that often isn't obvious in print, namely that a lot of what he's saying is light-hearted.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >regarding sexism in comics
            Don't tell me that's the issue he, of all writers, had with Conan

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              It was a problem he had with Savage Sword. Also, there's a bit of a difference between portraying rape as something that happens to women and writing an unironic "no means yes" scene.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >portraying rape as something that happens to women
                All the time, with one hand down your pants

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                This just makes it sound like you find the rape scenes erotic.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Pretty sure he does

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                I'm pretty sure (You) do, yes.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >you hate spiders so much, I bet you wanna frick them!
                That argument never worked, you know

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                That'd be true, if that was the argument. But the actual argument is that you saw rape in a comic and linked it to masturbation. The reading is either consciously dishonest or an indication of what gets your pecker up.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            > the level of upset that tiny portion caused is still pretty crazy
            No one likes to hear a lesser artist cite fake memes about someone who not only did better female characters (like Dark Agnes), but didn't feel the need to include a violent rape in everything he did. It's kinda like Moorwiener's pathetic "Epic Pooh" essay, which is full of non-sequiturs and despicably dishonest arguments, all in a vain attempt to couch seething professional jealousy as actual criticism. It gets people's blood up.

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              >a lesser artist
              Weak bait.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                He's absolutely a lesser artist, and REH's shadow is in all likelihood going to survive Moore's.

                >lesser artist
                I disagree, but either way it shouldn't get people so pissed off that they continue to boil over with anger for years. It's several people taking some poorly fact-checked tidbits and interpreting it as a massive betrayal, so much so that the guy becomes a sworn enemy.

                Moore is constantly mouthing off in a pugnacious and/or dishonest fashion. When someone's an annoying moron all the time, it's going to annoy some folks.

                Me, I generally don't read authors for their opinions on other artists (or anything else, for that matter). Lovecraft is an exception for me because he seemed to a genuine and sincere adoration for writing, and he was pretty much first in line to signal boost and aid aspiring writers and draw attention to other artists. I can actually get use out of Lovecraft rambling about horror fiction, I can't get anything out of Moore projecting his own misogyny onto a guy who topped himself over his mom dying.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >He's absolutely a lesser artist
                You're absolutely a lesser reader.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >He's absolutely a lesser artist
                I disagree.
                Moore really has a love for art and writing as well, and he used to have a great enthusiasm for comics, but the comics industry beat that one out of him.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >he used to have a great enthusiasm for comics
                He still enthusiastic about comics and still recommends stuff in interviews. He's just not enthusiastic about the Big Two.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                No, I think even that died down.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Are you sure you aren't misremembering his comments about him losing interest in *writing* more comics because he feels he's done everything he can with the medium? Only I know for sure he's recommended Si Spurier and Kieron Gillen's indie comics in recent interviews.

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              >lesser artist
              I disagree, but either way it shouldn't get people so pissed off that they continue to boil over with anger for years. It's several people taking some poorly fact-checked tidbits and interpreting it as a massive betrayal, so much so that the guy becomes a sworn enemy.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          It was 1983. Alan Moore's knowledge of Howard was (like most people's) probably limited to the Conan stories edited by de Camp, the Conan stories "finished" by de Camp, the Howard biography written by de Camp and the comics inspired by an idea of Conan shaped by de Camp. What we know today about the Conan stories and about Howard, Moore did not know yesterday and it's unreasonable to expect him to have known.

  54. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    because no one linked it in this thread already here the storytime for the most recent Savage Sword issue

    [...]

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      That's a cool map. Interior art looks good too.

  55. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Moore Stans are just Set Cultists.

  56. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Robert would be blast to talk to.
    Alan Moore is still stuck in the 80's William Shatner's "Get a Life" mode.

  57. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >All these people going to the mat for Moore.

  58. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Moore is the reason why we have rape in every other comic.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Really? He put a gun to their heads and forced them to write it in? Moore personally?

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        He poisoned the well.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          If so, it doesn't oblige anyone to draw water from that well.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          me when as a writer I have no capacity to make my own choices

  59. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Does anyone know what happened to REH's personal book/magazine collection after his death? Was it ever inventoried?

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I wonder how much CP Moore has?

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Did you mean to reply to someone else?

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          No, I just like pissing off Moore Stans.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Okay, so why did you reply to me?

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Stans?

  60. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Marvel comics has always been a goyslop factory churning out comics for the masses but before the Disney buyout they knew that if they wanted to sell comics they had to make the stories within those comics exciting. Case in point, Roy Thomas's writing on the original marvel run is superb and makes every story he writes or adapts leap off the page. Although my favorite REH adaption has to be Bloodstar.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >every story
      Let's not get carried away here. The REH adaptations are mostly great, but the ones based on stories by other hands are as hit or miss as the pastiches themselves.

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