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Paying to see movies in theaters is one of the first things that stops happening during economic downturn because people realize it's fricking stupid in the first place.
>economic downturn
You mean crypto Black folk and stock brokers losing.
prepare your anus.
have you bought gas for your car recently?
it's over $7 per gallon here right now
Thinking that he would even have a car
Damn. It's still around $4.80 in Texas. I'm lucky that I live close to work and have no friends, I drive only for like 20 minutes a day. I can't imagine what it's like for people who work far from home or have social lives.
Biden said the economy is fine, actually.
The economy is fine actually. Since fricking when has price ever scaled to cost for most shit? People are getting gouged cause companies feel they can get away with it, not cause they have to to stay in operation.
This post feels like you're trying to convince yourself more than the poster you're replying to.
>It's all the EVIL COMPANIES and that DAMN PUTIN
>This is your brain on vax aids and a landslide of democrat propaganda
Of course, world events have no impact on the economy and gas companies don't raise prices knowing that people are still gonna show up at the pump... Biden just went to his marxist minions and told them go make the line go down!!!
>A person doesn't understand the concept of supply and demand: the post
> A politician lied
What a surprise
$6 dollars here.
The people around here are mad like Hornets at the government
aaaaargh how could putin do this
you get what you voted for, Cinemaphilemblr. no refunds :^)
Time to start walking, fatty fatty boombalatti
Thank god the company I work for gave me a company car with a gas card. Only use my personal vehicle on the weekends.
>$4.45 where I'm at
Yep, made sure to dump any subscriptions when China Joe flushed the economy. Gas used to be $1.85 now it's $4.80 and fluctuates as high as $5+
One in like 5 dollars were printed this year. We're approaching 30%+ inflation.
You say this as Top Gun makes it march towards a billion and the latest Jurassic World will likely crawl to that despite being panned.
even Doctor Strange MOM too crossed over 900 million despite its reception.
I just don't have a drive for Lightyear, it's not a movie i need to see in theatres. i have +, i'll see it in 45 days from now if i have to watch it.
The actual recession isn't here yet, and people probably want a last hurrah before they have to live in poverty.
None of those numbers are real btw. The military won't allow Top Gun to not be seen as a hit.
>the military
You mean Scientology.
didn't stop the Mummy reboot or Battlefield Earth.
Top guns a bit of an exception
Putting aside the obvious propaganda angle and its wide backing brought up here
it is one of the few movies that actually does benefit a lot from being in a large immersive theatre over someone’s living room tv or their laptop. It’s built for that large experience, and seeing it in a theatre is actually a draw over just seeing it.
Obviously technology has changed how people watch stuff, but historically it's the opposite. The 30s are regarded as the golden age of Hollywood for a reason.
Hard to believe shills are actually going for this angle while other movies are doing perfectly fine, there really is no limit to this business, just throw shit at the populace, anything, who cares.
Top Gun and Jurassic World are going to make a billion. Nobody wants to watch Light-year
What an amazing cope lmao, Lightyear sucks plain and simple. People are tired of Pixar's weakass offerings. I hope Bob Chapek demotes them to Disney+ permanently, or better yet shuts them down for good.
What economic downturn? The US economy is doing fine. If anything, it's better than it was under Trump.
you moron
During an economic depression people actually consume more since they seek escapes from their financial worries
Maybe not because of the economy, but because Buzz is seen as a kids movie, and the "audience" assumes kids movie = streaming only.
>blaming everything and anything other than the fact that this movie is a turd
That's cope.
Fricking kek no one gives a frick about the pandemic anymore. Movie theater box office practically at it was before
$11 for a ticket is ridiculous.
>$11
It's $15 in my shithole.
I think the highest might be $14 for a new release or special showing. There are $8 matinees and Tuesdays.
>$8
Frick my life. Matinee is $12.
Yes
It was going to be a waste of time and money anyway. I genuinely prefer video game lore to whatever schlock Pixar wants to shill this week. They're technically excellent, but I just don't care about their movies or the characters.
MAJOR TOM TO DAMAGE CONTROL
This. Movies are a commitity, if you're forcing the poor to be as poor as possible where eating is nearly impossible, why don't you expect movies to fail? Rich people don't fricking watch movies, in theaters no less.
This is what the government don't get, actively poorifying the western world isn't a smart idea if you want all your ad revenue food chains and theaters to still make bank.
Enter "stakeholder capitalism".
Because it looks boring as shit everything else aside.
Maybe the movie just sucks.
Shit movies make money all the time.
This one doesn't have any real appeal, not even potential cult following material. Just completely soulless
When I heard Tim Allen wasn't the voice, any interest I had went to zero.
That doesn't really explain it. Shit movies make money all the time and Toys Story/Buzz Lightyear is a major franchise.
My opinion is the soulless artstyle.
Just because shitty movies make money all the time doesn't mean that every shitty movie will make money.
What are you talking about? Morbius made 6 gajillion Morbucks at the box office.
The artstyle would be fine if they weren't trying for a boring, emotional "triumphant" space story for the umpteenth time. Buzz Lightyear was supposed to be an action hero, a children's icon who went on adventures against evil emperors. Not a "first man to the moon" story while "ROCKETMAN" plods along somberly in the background.
they're using Starman by David Bowie in the ads not Rocketman by Elton John
just a nitpick though
Well whoop-de-doo. That really has an impact on my point. It is fricking interchangeable, and all too easy to imagine Elton John playing. In fact, I'm certain they considered it, but probably decided it was precisely on-the-nose.
white supremacy and drumpf
A lot of people don't give a f about the movie and don't even want to know its plot
It came out already?
This, I'm surprised Cinemaphile is not outrage shilling and flooding the boards. I'm not even getting this movie recommended to me on YouTube.
>Kneel Armstrong
Actually, now that I think about it, has there been much advertising for the movie at all? I don't think I've seen any evidence that it exists at all outside of imageboards.
Companies realize that they can save a lot of money with viral marketing. Netflix is open about this strategy. Oddly enough nobody cared about the "first LGBT representation" this time.
We're around the 4th "first dyke in film" annoumcement now, people get tired.
I think we are at the ~7th
Besides the youtube ads its promoted like hell on D+
It shows how mediocre the movie is, we care so little we cant even bother noticing shills screaming from the rooftops about it.
Very sad.
Can you really say something is flopping if it hasn't even been out for a week?
first weekened is almost always the high point
If a movies doesnt make its budget in the opening then its virtually a flop because it has to fight an uphill battle as box office revenue share with theatres keeps reducing by the week
This is why movies focus on opening weekend so much which is the only window for them. There are rare exceptions like Titanic but it was in an era where it could play for years in theatres. No one is gonna do that now
because it wasn't called
a toy story: lightyear
Because they're not toys in this one, you homosexual.
Because they made Interstellar: The Animation instead of a fun retrofuturist pulp adventure
Based Italians choosing anime over soulless American shit.
Lightyear really does look like a boring forgettable-ass thing though. Its idea of sci-fi looks like a Rated-T-for-Teen Wii game from 2009.
Based LGBT+ anon
Just as Disney planned. Pixar won't leave D+ ever again.
This. Just wait until they force the academy to change their rules and stream only movies can get Oscars.
Disney already owns the Academy. Soul went D+ and it won.
Fine by me. It's run by subservient numales and c**ts. Anyone of talent fricking left already.
It was the most corporate production Pixar has made in years:
>MCU super-star as the main character
>"gritty" (not actually) reboot of a beloved character/franchise
>Toy cat character that is there purely for merchandising/being the cutesy mascot
>"Muh lesbians" that is Korra-tier unimportant because they can't even commit to showing it out of fear of losing foreign markets (they lost some anyway)
>Soulless side characters that are essentially just living archetypes
>Ignores previously established canon, not just from Star Command (that's semi-reasonable) but also from the Toy Story movies themselves
>Inserts itself as the "true" Buzz Lightyear, despite not matching even the aesthetic of Andy's toy--let alone the "Silver Age, Space Age, Sci-fi" vibe that Buzz was inspired by.
All that in mind, I truly wonder how it could do so poorly.
>"Muh lesbians" that is Korra-tier unimportant because they can't even commit to showing it out of fear of losing foreign markets (they lost some anyway)
I've got a few questions aboout this honestly: what year does the movie some out in universe i.e when Andy first sees it? mid 90s right?
At risk of being that one autismode: its really funny to imagine a company putting out a children's film in the mid 90s with an onscreen same sex kiss, and speaking of Korra, remember how she didn't get an onscreen kiss, or the two gay cops in Gravity falls? and it took to what, 2018, to finally see Bubbline hook up properly?
and that's only in an american context. Did you know in England it would have actually ILLEGAL to air this movie unedited (and would have been until 2003)?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Section_28
Happy pride month. Have one for the queer quota, and don't forget to bring your suspension of disbelief*
They'd probably justify it like, "This is a world where toys come to life when you're not looking and people still haven't noticed. A lesbian couple being treated as ordinary in a 90s movie is nothing in comparison, so stop being homophobic racists and let's all get along."
Why are you defending a million dollar corp? What's in it for a shill like you. The movie obviously isn't from the 90s nor does it pretend to be. If anything, it's a reboot of a 90s movie and would be as progressive with homosexual characters as any superhero tv show today. Your favorite big coop can't do that can they? They can't even be bothered to pander to you
good post, this movie really doesn't have much of anything going for it
People will argue lesbians or black people or whatever but in reality it's because literally nobody fricking asked for a "serious" (by that I mean more serious than Toy Story) adaptation of fricking Buzz Lightyear. There is simply no audience for this at all. It would be the equivalent of "let's make a western style film about Woody". Nobody would care.
Add the fact that audiences are so used to Allen being Buzz for nearly 30 years. This is Solo all over again.
At the risk of summoning /misc/ I genuinely don’t think anyone gives a shit if Allen voices buzz.
>At the risk of summoning /misc/
I will say that I recognized a pattern of the villain essentially being an old white man while the rag-team team of melanin-skinned screw-ups end up helping Buzz save the day.
Seriously frick them for doing Buzz Lightyear without Tim Allen.
>But Tim Allen only voiced some of the TV show and not all of it!!
A full big-budget movie is not the same thing as the random filler episodes of a spinoff cartoon. They very consciously chose to reject Allen for this probably because he's a Republican.
Chris Evans actually did a good Buzz impression
The fact they didn't use Wayne Knight as fricking Zurg is a goddamn crime though, even with the twist of future buzz
Nobody asked for a serious Dora the explorermovie and normies still went to see that.
>and normies still went to see that
Did they? I'd completely forgotten that movie exists, so I assumed any "hype" around it was similar to the ironic hype surrounding Morbius.
Yes, next time touch other social media not only Cinemaphile
>Nobody asked for a serious Dora the explorermovie and normies still went to see that.
you mean pedos
>Dora box office: 119m Budget: 49m
>Lightyear budget: 200m
a hundred mil and some change is impressive for a mid tier film like Dora but it ain't gonna cut it for a Pixar film spun off from one of their most profitable franchises.
>Dora box office: 119m Budget: 49m
The studio only get ~50% of the box office money, the rest going to theatres, and the production budget doesn't include advertising/promotion.
Dora did not make any money at the box office, probably made a modest profit from streaming deals.
anon, a 49m movie doesn't have a 100+ in ads. it turned a profit
it flops. As a general rule, it costs as much to market as it is to produce. If production costs 49, marketing costs 49. This means the movie makes 20 million before distribution cost is accounted for. A flop no matter which way you cut it.
Studios actually take the lion's share of ticket sales. They have theatres over a barrel when it comes to non-concession revenue.
Profit is a profit unless you have ridiculous expectations. Probably not enough of one to warrant a sequel but enough to say they didnt fail.
it wasn't even that serious
It barely broke even
>Nobody asked for a serious Dora the explorermovie
That Dora movie was basically the equlivant of the Scooby Doo live action. It was taking the piss out of the property for 3/4ths of the runtime
>dora movie didn't give swiper his new york accent
He canonically doesn't even know spanish, at least that's what the wiki says.
yeah I wonder why
>normies
You mean pedos.
Don't give the suits ideas
It should have been an anthology film (or a short series released direct to Disney plus)
Each segment (or episode) could be about a different Toy Story toy in their element. A sci-fi segment with Buzz and Zurg, a western segment with Woody and the Roundup Gang, a dinosaur segment with Rex and Trixie, etc.
Do it cutesie and fun and old-fashioned. Maybe have a different style for each one. The Lightyear segment would be some googie jetsons spaceman spiff segment. The woody one could look like old Wild West shows, gun smoke and the lone ranger, etc. The Rex one could be done in 2D animation, styled after those illustrations you see in old kids books about paleontology. You could do a Little Bo Peep section as a cutesy puppetry thing in style as an old Rankin Bass Cartoon, with a twinkly old Disney soundtrack and celestas
If you want to do Toy Story but not toys, that’s how you do it
A Rocky Gibraltar wrestling show. Acting like a mix of Hulk and Macho.
Is that the strong guy with the mask from the first movie? I always wondered what happened to him.
I kept wondering if he was based on a real life wrestler in the Toy Story universe?
a Spaghetti Western Woody film could actually be good though
Did Woody use a firearm at all? I know he has a holster, but the man had a mighty large snake problem and I'd wager any additional belt would help
I only recall him using the holster to store a match
Maybe he lost his gun a long time ago
Disney would never made a western because they are triggered over gun usage and westerns without gun shootings are completely pointless. Its like Samurai movies without katana fights.
also lone ranger bombing
Not gonna lie, I'd be more interested in a woody movie than a buzz one
are you fricking moronic. I would have loved to watch an more gritty action show about buzz, especially when I was still a little kid. But this show once again but WOKE ideology before making something that the potential audience actual would want to watch.
no boy, especially no white guy, wants to watch a movie where buzz is comedic sidekick to a bunch of black woman once again.
Now you've got me thinking about what a gritty western reboot of Woody would look like. I wonder if there's a Red Dead Redemption mod where you can play as Woody.
No the people are right. I didn't even realise it was lesbians just butch nogs. Wew lad.
Society.txt
Imagine being an american.
Didn't we already get a Buzz Lightyear cartoon? I liked it.
>There is simply no audience for this at all.
yes there is, people always loved star command even if it wasnt very good but people have good memories atbout that show, yet they wasted absolutely everything that people liked about it and made the actual thing as boring as possible, it seems theyre trying to be a animated interstellar or some shit when they forgot they make movies for kids, it should have been more lightheardted space adventures
Catering to Disney adults was the death of Disney.
>"let's make a western style film about Woody".
That would be kino, sans Black folk and homosexuals.
>because literally nobody fricking asked for a "serious" (by that I mean more serious than Toy Story) adaptation of fricking Buzz Lightyear. There is simply no audience for this at all. It would be the equivalent of "let's make a western style film about Woody". Nobody would care.
/thread
Don't forget that they absolutely bungled introducting the concept to the geberal public.
"This is the movie about the real life guy Buzz Lightyear is based on."
Fricking... WHAT? "Real life guy Lightyear is based on?" The frick does that even mean???
>Fricking... WHAT? "Real life guy Lightyear is based on?" The frick does that even mean???
Pathetic invalid.
If you weren't such a braindead incel chud, you'd realize Buzz's first name is a reference to astronaut "Buzz Aldrin." God, I hate this site...
I agree with your post but the idea of a western starring a more realistic Woody and his gang sounds kinda awesome.
But only because westerns are timeless and sci-fi is totally oversaturated right now.
The theaters were hit with a HYPER DEATH RAY!
Disney really dropped the ball on not concurrently releasing the series. Would have been neat to rewatch.
didn't even know it was out, is disney sweeping it under the rug?
literally nobody asked for this movie
Because they put gay shit it in it. Plain and simple.
I'm just simply not interested. I never even liked toy Buzz all THAT much in the first place, nevermind some weird soulless realistic version of him.
Lesbians are for a straight male audience.
Could have fooled me by the way they keep making them, what with being unlikable towarda anyone who isn't already LGBT.
What are you talking about? Straight guys love lesbians. Just look at The Owl House and Steven Universe. Hell, Amphibia succeeded just by teasing the possibility of lesbians.
>Has cool sci-fi character
>Instead of having a story about aliens and shit focus on humans instead
Wow what a surprise people don't like it.
>See Lightyear was a complete disappointment
>Not good, mediocre at most
>Many flaws regarding the story and the concept as a whole.
>Movie reviews bomb it
>People at my country blame it on the homophobia.
>All bad reviews are baseless and from people against the lesbian shit according to them.
I fricking hate Mexico for being full of drones.
Idk sounds like they are based.
I think he means that people in Mexico are blaming the movie's failure solely on homophobes that may not exist.
>I fricking hate Mexico for being full of drones.
I thought it was just Dragonball Super
Some of the best dragon ball content from the last 25 years came from watching mexican neighborhoods watch the tournament of power
The new movie is literally just 90 minutes of Mexican fan-fiction. Gohan Blanco included.
Mexibros, we are home.
Too bad Gohan's voice actor got killed and isn't here to see it. Rest in power.
Only in Mexico. Who was the cabron that killed the dude who voiced Gohan abs Bugs Bunny? He deserves to be lynched by an angry mob.
Fricker killed himself right after doing the deed.
I heard he got arrested. It was his uncle over a dispute about “los terrenos”
You Black folk gave asylum to Monga Ferte, you have no dignity. Just keep that saggy b***h locked
Anon, where in Mexico do you live? The movie is *just* out. Only corporate wienersuckers have already watched it.
Wait until the normies watch it, it's going to be a shitstorm.
Tacos have always been anti west and being pure weebcucks.
The answer's simple.
The movie is kinda unnecesary and it's kinda mediocre.
Simple as.
I think what happened is that everyone who wanted a stand-alone and at least mildly serious Buzz Lightyear film saw this was going to be mediocre/bad from a mile away. Most of everyone else either had no interest or saw there was no Tim Allen and dropped it, leaving only a small audience left
It's the culmination of Pixar/Disney becoming a cynical and soulless content factory over the last 2 decades.
*cough cough*
Having to release one or two movies a year consistently really worked against them in the long run, didn't it?
I like Monsters U.
It bears repeating: Pixar is just a name. The real company was the people, and almost all of them are dead, retired, or ousted in a coup.
If it was Disney's Flash Gordon instead of Disney's Interstellar it'd probably be more popular
if people wanted to see Interstellar...they'd see Interstellar, not a shitty knock off.
I understand if they want to retcon away the buck rogers aesthetic, but not having aliens at all is fricking weird.
Also I always hated when people whined that it was unethical to fix a timeline, and that's apparently the moral stance this movie takes so no thanks.
so many cucked homosexuals b***hing at Samurai Jack's last season when stopping Aku was exactly what needed to be done to create a better future.
kys
lmao cucked homosexual.
And if you beat the game and get the best ending you can save Ashi anyway so no need to be salty.
take your meds
Tartakovsky's kino is the best medicine there is.
Pixar is racist against aliens now.
This movie feels like a kind of spin off without Pixar. Like Planes.
They should have done Rex
Nobody cares - or parents learn there's a gay kiss and decide maybe they won't bother taking their kid to a noisy, crowded, overprices movie theatre after all.
People will blame it on the lesbian kiss, but it's absolutely how boring this movie looks. Feels like they were trying to be the next Wall-E with its plot, but it just sounds like cheap Interstellar for the sake of it.
>People will blame it on the lesbian kiss
This has been Disney's go-to with stuff they know will fail.
Kenobi sucks - You're just racist
Eternals sucks - You're just racist, homophobic
Buzz Lightyear sucks - You're just racist, homophobic
tbf it doesn't really work in the MCU because people are used to not criticize race changes or sexual orientations so whenever they try to play that card it falls flat.
See Multiverse of Madness, they tried playing the people hate America Chavez because she is Latina and has two moms and it failed so hard they didn't really mention it afterwards.
But it didn’t flop
let the moron live his delusions
It makes you wonder how bad that Percy Jackson show is going to be given they've pulled that card before it's even finished shooting. They even got the author out to lie through his teeth about how black and brownwashing the cast is okay, even though he criticized the prior adaptations for casting a brunette who's described in the books as a blonde (she's black in the new show).
Christ, he really is an even bigger hypocrite than Gayman.
From what I understand, they have Akira Toriyama at gun point to make DB. Same as Netflix as Oda at gunpoint to make Nami's sister a homie.
lmao Netflix can't really afford another Cowboy Bebop-tier disaster, they are walking a very thin line.
lol Oda loves open borders, race mixing and now he's even including trannies that aren't monsters. Don't be fooled just because he likes massive breasts
>he criticized the prior adaptations for casting a brunette who's described in the books as a blonde (she's black in the new show).
Man frick current day adaptions.
Hell, Disney already has Chris Evans trying to spin it that way like he's their personal show monkey:
https://twitter.com/i/events/1537478945586683905
I genuinely wouldn't be surprised if he was given a script to work with.
Got woke went broke
groomer company
>works for disney
>has doctor friend "perform gender reassignment surgery on me"
100k please!
>Does it every week and my recovery periods make it so I can't go into work
get 100k every week
Still have my intact penis and mental health
When I was a kid I identified as lean, tall and buff but I was a short fatass. How come my insurance didn't pay for liposuction and HGH?
Why do they need a hand signer if the video already has subtitles?
Woke points
As a literal pedophile this is sickening
I do not understand how it wasnt a big successes, what little detail could possibly irk the moronic consumers to not eat this like any other piece of shit Disney has pushed out? What made this awful movie different from the rest?
Normies hate all animation that isnt minions or disney princess stuff. If this had been live action, they all would have creamed themselves over this.
From the trailers we're shown
>no Tim Allen
>no Patrick Warburton
>no aliens
>no Randy Newman
>mud people
>Zurg is big silent Gundam instead of an over the top maniacal overlord
Gee, I wonder why it's floundering.
pretty much, there's little reason for an older fan of the originals to want to go see it, especially when they hear that it isn't very good.
this leaves just little kids which really do not drive box office numbers except in rare cases like minions.
>>Zurg is big silent Gundam instead of an over the top maniacal overlord
Even worse, he's not even Buzz's dad--he's a "future Buzz Lightyear."
What a soulless crock of shit this entire fricking production is. Every "creative" decision was clearly made by a committee of out-of-touch executives.
>Even worse, he's not even Buzz's dad--he's a "future Buzz Lightyear."
Holy shit this is levels of moronic I couldn't even imagine from Disney. Did any of these people even watch Toy Story 2? I'm reminded of all those articles that were showing up a few years ago talking about how "canon is a form of gatekeeping" and how new writers for an established IP should be able to write whatever they want and not have to follow any rules.
I fricking hate the way this industry is going and it's becoming impossible for me to care about anything that's coming out if it's connected to an IP that I have fond memories of.
>"canon is a form of gatekeeping" and how new writers for an established IP should be able to write whatever they want and not have to follow any rules.
Anon, have you been seeing how the Big 2 currently treats "canon"? Spider-Man has been fricked since the tail end of JMS' run. DC playing up the Hyper Crisis card has given every book a disconnect from each other.
>new writers for an established IP should be able to write whatever they want and not have to follow any rules
I wish I could say I wanted the writers to have such freedom, but the truth is, companies hire expensive writers that don't really like the franchise, don't have any interest on it, and want to change it completely to fit their tastes
>It’s like Reynold’s GL but worse
No wonder Lucas had to go independent to make a space movie
kids like colors
this movie doesn't really look that colorful
yeah, I was answering why it flopped
The cast is filled with coloreds.
not colorful ones, though. only people colored drab and moody colors.
>Hey kids and parents who are nostalgic for Toy Story, you want to see a film with the premise that it's the "real" Buzz Lightyear film from Toy Story? Except instead of cool space action shit we're going to have him run around a planet with the color palette of a mid-00s FPS with a quartet of sidekicks, all of whom are the comic relief!
The trailers are really awful. The movie looks drab and lifeless
Yeah. Reminds of how video games tended to look from 2006 to 2013.
it was TOO political i know everything is political but most people just want to watch mindless entertainment they don't want to be preached at
With the rise of streaming services people don't really go to the movies unless it's for an already popular franchise that they don't want to get spoiled on.
Based islam chads banning that shit.
>Generic sci-fi adventure
>Most boring version of all the Buzzs
>Generic sci-fi adventure
Even worse, it's the "low-budget syndicated sci-fi show filmed in Canada" kind of sci-fi adventure.
Because it looks like shit in every possible way
>Why is Lightyear flopping?
Disney's test audiences showed that it was a flop, so they're not advertising much
Trailer is 80% blacks
It's gonna do amazing in Mexico and then every fricking person in the country is gonna be pissed.
México was a mistake.
What is it with México? They want to be a top nation Yet do nothing for it.
Mexico LOVES Toy Story. I'm Mexican and it's the first I'm hearing about it? What? Are people in denial? Most normies haven't even watched it. People here turned on Toy Story 4 not long after release.
Que tiene que ver?
Como que que tiene que ver, Black? Nadie ha visto la pelicula más que los que le maman le verga a Disney, deja que los normies empiecen a ver la película a partir de hoy y vas a ver mucha gente encabronada.
Aquí todos aman lo LGBT. Lo que me refiero es porque Mexico no quiere ser potencia si sigue hablando en güey?
México es un caso perdido, pusieron a un pendejo haciendo campaña por 20 años prometiendo el cielo y le creyeron nada más porque disque era mejor que el Peña Nieto y nada más esta chingando el país peor que nunca.
Y va a valer verga lo del LGBT cuando vean lo que le hicieron a Zurg.
Pues a nuclear a México.
Bien dicho.
Desde cuando según aman a los jotos aquí? Casi toda la gente que conozco es indiferente o homofóbica.
My friends have done nothing but send me anti-LGBT memes so dunno why that anon is so hung up on people caring about the lesbians.
Nadie quiere a los lgbt aqui, ellos solo ladran en internet pero usualmente esa gente esta bien jodida y no vale verga. Y a los mas degenerados les dan cuello.
Esa pelicula es una mierda.
They shoulda just made a 90-minute version of the bit from Toy Story 3 that's Andy smashing all different genres together
Alternatively they could have done this
But make it live action, have the actors act serious while the setting gets more and more outlandish.
This would take too much love and effort for modern Pixar/Disney. A great, infinitely better idea, but now I'm just disappointed that it'll never happen.
Toy Story nostalgia is wearing off.
because Pixar hasn't made a good movie since the last Toy Story
Toy Story 4 wasn't good, anon. It was just Toy Story 3, except Woody got poon this time instead of Buzz.
Also, it really undermined 3's ending. Wouldn't be surprised if a lot of people just skip 4 when they go back and rewatch the series later down the line.
And Toy Story 3 was just Toy Story 2 rehashed.
I’ve never got this meme. I really don’t see the similarities
YMS, dogfricker that he is, did a good job pointing out the similarities.
Skip to 6:49.
>inb4 shilling
The video is 11 years old.
what
I enjoy his vids but he's off the mark with his comparisons here
How is he off the mark? The countryside flashbacks, opening sequences, old jolly cane using toy villain twist, said villain feeling abandoned and unloved, the fates of said villains, the promise of being loved by kids for generations, the delusional Buzz being used for a third time, it all seems like a rehash to me. There are obviously other story beats that are originl, but half of TS3 is just TS2 all over again.
TS4 undermines every single TS film before it. It just takes a complete dump on the franchise and everything it stood for.
That video is arguably the worst thing YMS has done, just total garbage.
What did they expect? The giant corporation absorbing them wasn't go to lead to them whoring out their IPs and get assigned lower profile jobs since that giant corporation had already developed an internal studio to compete with them?
Soul was good
no
>since Toy story 3
FTFY
Toy Story 4 was hot garbage. Luca was good and Turning Red was mediocre but it was at least better than Toy Story 4
Because who was asking for a straightfaced Buzz Lightyear movie?
This is what you idiots get for not putting a price tag on every aspect of the show.
Want the voice actors to do unique lines for you? Pay.
Want specifics gif animations to match your autistic music video? pay
Want songs? pay extra
Want concept art? pay
Want animatics? pay
Want previews of episodes? pay
Want bloopers? pay
Want the drafts, scripts, emails , audio writers' meetings between the executives? pay
Want the source files to be able to mess around with the animation? pay up the ass.
Animation pricing is even more mentally handicapped than video games. Spending 50-150 million dollars just to pay once for a 60$ ticket. In TV Show's case you pay nothing.
Most of the money for CG Disney movies goes towards R&D tech. They had to develop new digital imax cameras just to make Lightyear.
All together now:
Get woke...
...eat ass
>Wanted Buzz having a space adventure with Star Command.
>Got Buzz stranded on planet of the nigs with a shitty time paradox story.
sir, its planet of the apes, get it right
It's creatively bankrupt to the point that even normies and foreign audiences can smell it
No one cares about Sóy Story any more and Lightyear looks like a particularly uninspired and dull spin-off (it is).
Gone, reduced to atoms.
Utterly noncanon and to never return.
Even as a 2000-born zoomer, I loved this show. We had a couple episodes on VHS, and I'd watch them over and over.
Always had a crush on the blue girl, and I think I still have a toy of Buzz from that show.
I fricking loved the Wirewolf episode. The scene with the wires growing out of the guy stuck with me for years, good shit
Weird. A Zoomer talking good of VHS...
We had a good amount of em when I was a kid--we didn't get a DVD player until 2005 or 06, I think. Going to the VHS store in another town was a magical experience because it was the only time I got to reliably watch episodes of Pokemon I hadn't seen before.
It helped that I was the youngest of my siblings, so I got some mid-to-late 90s stuff in my childhood.
Older zoomers lived through the transition from vhs to dvd
Lies. Lightyear will never replace the OG.
#notmyBuzz
This is what Lasseter took from you.
XR looks fine, but what's up with Booster's head and Mira's face?
Probably stems from this being an interpretation of what they would look like in 3D.
They look like toys, notice the screw holes in the limbs that match with Buzz's
We win again BGchads
>the bad guys actually debuted much better
based
>disney supports grooming kids in school and unironically supports a gay agenda
>parents stop taking kids to theaters
It's really that simple.
Honestly this is probably accurate. Disney's name is mud right now. The public is furious about all the groomer shit happening right now and are showing up to protest drag queen storytime at libraries (why they ever thought they could get that under the radar, God only knows why). Disney+ is already losing subscribers and park attendance is reportedly down this summer, which is only made worse by the economic recession pricing families out of the parks.
If you're a middle class family who is tightening the belt and you see Disney's CEO in front of a camera saying he's going to use the company to defend child grooming in schools, it makes it some of your spending cuts a lot easier to choose. Free streaming services + ads instead of Disney+, camping instead of the Disney World trip, and watching wholesome old DVDs instead of going to see whatever Disney's newest movie is.
Doesn't really matter to Disney, they're basically at a point where they can say whatever they want and still be in the black. They're a titan that doesn't have any fear of falling over.
Their stock is doing horribly right now and there is going to be a major shakeup at the company in the next few years. What exactly changes, no-one can really say.
Best case scenario, they spun Marvel off into its own company and sell Lucasfilm.
Disney sold Saban / Power Rangers when its popularity dipped, so really who knows. I can't really see Disney ditching Marvel other than maybe closing the comics division and licensing out the publishing rights, because that investment paid for itself several times over by now, but Lucasfilm is basically never going to pay for itself because Disney so horribly mismanaged the Star Wars IP. Brainlets like to just add up the box office grosses for all the Disney Star Wars movies and act like that's a slam dunk but don't consider all of the theaters' cuts, marketing and budgets that need to be subtracted, and quite possibly the most overlooked aspect, interest. If you account for the interest return that Disney's investors were expecting from buying Lucasfilm, that $4 billion they bought Star Wars for is basically never going to come back.
Disney was promising their investors that Star Wars would be like Marvel and bring in billions of dollars a year from having at least one movie release every year. It was supposed to be a repeat of Marvel's success, and the investors believed them. Now Disney has pretty much given up on making Star Wars movies and they've switched over to saying "oh, believe us, all the money is in streaming now, we're gonna make 10 new Star Wars TV shows and over the lifetime of Disney+ they will make all the money we promised that the movies would make. And we have some hotel thing."
Disney is very possessive of their toys so I don't really expect them to sell Star Wars off, but probably no-one expected them to sell Power Rangers either. If Disney gets desperate enough for a cash infusion and they've already run Star Wars into the dirt, they very well could cut Lucasfilm loose if it's not pulling its weight.
They sold Power Rangers because they never controlled it completely due to the ties to the Sentai IP. I doubt they'd do that with something like Star Wars.
Whether they recoup the investment or not anyway, they kind of need brands for streaming too.
Disney didn't specifically buy Power Rangers. They bought Fox Family Worldwide, which was co-owned by Saban Entertainment, thus inheriting ownership rights of Power Rangers. Content library and rights were a bonus, the real reason Disney wanted Fox Family was for their operating infrastructure and MLB rights.
I think you're overvaluing just how big Power Rangers actually is.
The ad game for this movie was weak. I've seen 10x ads for Minions than I have this Lightyear movie. Plus it looks boring af. Can't blame anyone who doesn't think it's worth seeing.
The cat is cute and funny though and the plushie I saw at Wal-Mart was adorable, maybe they should have made the movie about him instead?
>Why is Lightyear flopping?
Im with this guy over here
It looked like the most bland brand of "Epic" i can think of, why would i watch that?
It feels as if this movie should've been released ten years ago, riding the coat tails of Toy Story 3. Maybe prior. But nowadays, most people are: "Buzz Light-who?", especially since the MCU has a cultural nigh monopoly of sci-fantasy movies.
Its SJW crap; go woke go broke
This movie is rated NC16 here in my country in SEA. It should be around the same or similar in other asian countries. The only country here that has an open tolerance for gays is the Philippines. Not to mention even after 2 years people are still hypochondriac about covid.
>open tolerance for gays is the Philippines
Not Thailand or the other non-Abrahmic countries?
Gays serve openly in the church and nobody bats an eye. Our local church has one. He's usually the one to read the gospel of the day.
Also pride parades are big. Bigger than most town fiestas.
Thai gays got an internationally recognized industry.
You saying you're bigger than that?
Nobody minds gays, but lesbos are a different story. They are usually misandrist and toxic c**ts
I live in north México
I just want to say i fricking hate You americans and argentineans so much
We pased from a normal country to pozzed as frick in less than a decade thanks to argentineans feminist and US media
>Read a thread of Lightyear on normiebook
>Most people are mocking the fact some parents don't like a meme lesbian Kiss in thier kids movie despite the fact that movie is suposed to be a blockbuster from the 90s
>Usual normie talking points like have sex or "uhhhh if You don't like LGBT you are in the closet"
It's just so tired seeing his Husk of people defending this shit like Disney is their friend and isn't doing for some browniepoints
Also argentinian dubs are ass.
I went to watch Macross Frontier in theater today instead of Lightyear. It has better music, better sci-fi, and cuter girls.
space sci-fi fricking sucks. simple as
Space sci-fi is amazing when done right. The reason we have so much space sci-fi is because it's our manifest destiny to explore the stars and other planets. It truly is the final frontier, and it's in our DNA to regail ourselves with incredible tails of people go go there.
Too bad Lightyear is none of that. It's 60s B-movie slop warmed over with $200 million worth of current year paint. It's like Disney and Pixar did an exhaustive research project to find the perfect formula of a hypothetical person who is nobody, and made a movie for that person.
Pixar is a joke now. They left all the rejects while the smart people either have left, retired, or fricking died. They'll merge it with Walt Disney Animation and I'm sure they'll have a renaissance in like 30 years but their legacy is over. Has been since like Inside Out.
The biggest question for me is who will revolutionize things next. I'm awaiting that studio and their movie. I want new shit.
The last Pixar movie I loved was Coco. It was something very different from Pixar and I saw it not long after my grandfather died, so I felt quite touched by it. Incredibles 2 was okay but not nearly as memorable as the first one. Everything else since then has been bland forgettable junk to me though. Pixar is not the studio they used to be.
> revolutionize
As in make more stylistic movies with CGI while also utilizing hand-drawn animation, 2d animation, or make a style that other studios will copy forever like Spider-Verse and Arcane.
>who will revolutionize things next.
For me? Cartoon Saloon
You only say that because we've been getting absolute shit for mainstream space sci-fi stories.
it’s not like any sci-fi movie past the 80s were that good either tbh
No, that's what I mean. In terms of the mainstream, it's an incredibly underutilized sub-genre.
because its too risky and the projects usually go overbudget or past the deadline so they go with the safest shit imaginable like Interstellar or Forbidden Planet
The controversy over the 'Don't Say Gay' law in florida, and the gay kiss. Made a lot of families decide to go see Jurassic World instead. At least dinosaurs don't have politics.
>Before I eat you, I hope you understand that capitalism and colonialism led to this.
>At least dinosaurs don't have politics.
Homophobia and racism
No one asked for this Disney Adult shit
Nobody asked for it and nobody wanted it.
I didn't even know it was out
That guy needs to shove this hashtags up his #gapingbutthole
Wasn't Buzz Lightyear in universe created as a product of the space race?
imagine how Walt would react to seeing the kind of progress we have made since his death
Because it fricking sucks
Probably the most damning thing about the movie is it's just really fricking boring. At least an absolute shit movie is worth talking about. Even the most glowing reviews I've seen for Lightyear just call it "Meh" at best.
Because it's bait and switch woke garbage
Kinda sucks if Lightyear flops then we'll never get a Woody movie
Its ugly as frick
>movie is called Lightyear
>title giving character is depicted as weak idiot who gets rescued and told what to do by powerful black wyman for the entire movie
>movie ltierally takes every chance it gets to shit on him and humiliate him simply because he is a white guy
Because it's not about space exploration, which was invented by whites.
It's about space welfare, which was invented by israelites
It's shit because they turned a literal joke into a "serious" film. Toy Story is a comedy film premise. Buzz is a toy that thinks he's an action hero, and when he says bizarre in-character stuff to Woody (the straight man), it's funny. The viewer's imagination fills in the blanks of Buzz's "backstory", and this works in favor to the main film plot (ie, they're all just toys), without getting in the way too much. Buzz having a karate-chop or rambling about secret missions is a million times funnier and more entertaining, because it's out-of-context and hilarious (especially when paired with how cynical Woody is in TS1). I'm not 100% sure if the people making this film get the point of Buzz or Toy Story.
I'm not completely against the idea of there being a Buzz film (the intro to Toy Story 2 was fun as a little special), but I honestly can't imagine why anyone would want to see a "serious" Buzz (he's a parody of Star Wars and 90s toys).
A "serious" Buzz could have easily worked, it just needed to embrace what Buzz is supposed to represent and take that seriously.
Remember what we used to have. Look at those fun, creative character designs.
God bless. Death to D*sney, death to Mousecucks, drone strike every home with a D+ account.
Dude, just watch the original Toy Story. It already had fun characters for an adventure film from the start.
>Potatohead: Cranky, stubborn, reluctant
>Hamm: Sarcastic and aloof troublemaker
>Rex: Naive and cowardly, but well-meaning
>Slinky: The reliable voice of reason
>i-it's not about the lesbians!!!
Lol. If there was no lesbians, it would open up in more theaters. More people will watch it. It won't be groundbreaking in the box office but it would at least not bombed. It would at least be okay. Now it isn't.
Nobody watches gay sci-fi except for Amerimutt subhumans
Is it true that there are no aliens in the movie?
It looked like a straight to streaming film. I’m surprised to find out it’s an actual theatrical release
is the movie out on disney+? When can we expect torrent links?
Gee I wonder why movies that bank entirely on nostalgia are failing outside the US, having gay shit isn't even that big a deal as some of you frickers are making it out to be, we all know they'll just cut the scenes that show it.
This movie is already banned in most territories that hate the gays
>everyone has d+
It will be "free" on d+ in like 2 months
Yeah, i wonder why no one is going to watcbh it.
Doesn't matter how badly it underperforms Disney will slap that b***h on D+ and claim its the most streamed movie ever...that week and immediately announce a sequel.
Disney will never admit fault with anything.
streaming exists. if a movie isn't deemed worth paying for an expensive movie ticket to see, people will stay home and stream it, or wait for it to hit streaming if there's a staggered release. honestly incredible to me that global media companies have not grasped this.
Reminder that these guys were created by Pizza Planet in-universe.
>tim allen isn't buzz
Why does no one care about this movie??
>but muh politics
Dont give a frick. Mochael jackson was a peado, anyone else singing thriller cant compete.
>muh politics
>muh wokeshit
>muh animu
It’s almost like the primary target audience for this film don’t watch movies on Wednesday and Thursday
You flopgays are morons
Yeah, dude. I'm sure this corporately constructed, soulless piece of garbage is TOTALLY gone blast off once the weekend hits!
>j-just 2 MORE WEEKS
cope harder mousegay
Without reading through the rest of this thread and only watching the trailers, I'll put in my 2 cents.
It looks boring.
The visuals aren't particularly interesting. Honestly it looks like a generic sci-fi movie that they slapped buzz lightyear into just to get a recognizable name attached to it.
Maybe kids might like it but again, I have to bring up the visuals just look uninteresting. At least from the trailers, how exactly are they grabbing kids attention?
Another things thats more of a nitpick from my own habits but watching the trailer, I can't really tell what the plot of the movie is. Is it just an adventure movie? Fight some aliens, "save the day", roll credits?
Some trailers have a bad habit of just spoiling the whole movie in them but this trailer just sorta left nothing in my mind after watching it. I was just sitting there thinking "yep, thats a movie thats currently out". Nothing "hooked" me enough to be interested in going to see it.
The 3rd act ruined the movie, which already was just not that great.
Should have just made it that star command was destroyed in the future and Zurg was hunting down Buzz, last space ranger. Give it some stakes and a bit of a Star Wars feel.
The movie feels so unnecessary to exist.
Disney is now widely seen as a racist paedophile organisation.
Any camrips yet? Or is the movie that shit
The Elvis movie is going to fricking kill this film, I can tell
>Want Queer representation in shows
>Realize that it'll always be stapled to shit movies as a shield to defend them being shit, while also being easily removable for foreign markets
You act like we're the boogey men and want these terrible movie so we get yelled at for it when most of us just want to exist in a film and not be used as a shield or target for flops. Do you think it's fun seeing safe lesbian women kiss over and over and over and over and over again while being of no consequence to the plot of these films other than targets for ire.
>most of us just want to exist in a film
No.
>no Midnighter film that is just earnest action schlock about an butthole in leather murdering the frick out of supervillains and everyone in the film is ridiculously buff and handsome
Seriously, you could probably get a fantastic looking Midnighter film for ~$100 million budget.
>safe lesbian women kiss over and over and over and over and over again while being of no consequence to the plot
Then you don't want to "just exist" you want your sexuality to be relevant to plot
Probably because nobody wants to go to theatres to see a pixar movie aside from a select few adult Disneygays when they can easily watch better shit at home?
Because this is an obligatory merchandise project before Pixar makes something they actually WANT to do.
The problem is they didn't lean into the lesbian thing hard enough. After they kissed they should have shut the kid out of the bedroom and then the movie just had a thirty minute long explicit hardcore lesbians sex scene
by Allah I will give you a taste of my shoe
Pretty based.
Because it's shit
The advertising looked weirdly dark and gritty for a spin-off of a colorful franchise about kids toys.
It's not flopping, it'll make Buzzbillion dollars
WHERE
IS
THE
CAM
RIP
Why would anyone bother?
I want to trash on it with my friends
That's kinda gay man.
Gay shit
Anons could watch
>a bad movie pushing shitty ideals
or
>the best swordfighting movie in two generations.
Gee, I fricking wonder.
Anyone who actually wastes time with Lightyear is unironically wasting their life.
You guys aren't lying about the gay kiss and Zurg being Buzz, are you? I'm slowly realizing it's not a joke and reality is this horrible.
I wish it wasn't true. My kid is going to want to watch this and I'm going to have to explain that gay people are homosexuals and why that's not okay. Looking forward to it but still shouldn't have to have that talk yet.
Sorry Anon, but if you can imagine literally anything you used to enjoy, cartoons, vidya, normal live action movies, toys, literally ANY of your culture, it's going to be recycled back to you in a stripped down, corporatized, soulless package slapped with [current activist trend] so that if you voice any concerns about how bad it is the worshippers of [BRAND] can attack your criticism and bury it with accusations of you being an immoral person for criticizing their new secular religion.
Enjoy!
that gun is a tokarev isn't it
i couldnt care less about gay Black folk kissing but zurg being buzz and it not being an action/cheesy movie is everything wrong with disney pixar
>Why is Lightyear flopping?
They dont want Indonesia, malaysia and china money
Oh boy, I can't wait to see how the LGBT brigade blame white supremacists on THIS one when said brown, cultural diverse countries are openly saying how much they hate the LGBT (and the white man)
they forgot to make the movie fun
Woody was always better
To the anons saying Dismay was gonna spin its criticism into "homophobia"
You were right
>die off like dinosaurs
>when the dinosaurs are beating his movie
I know its a sequel to an old movie but calling Top Gun a dinosaur is too much
He means Jurassic World. The literal dino movie.
I know
but Top Gun is older than bothits a joke
Life finds a way.
Then he gets hit with a parking Violation
It's funny how they keep comparing their agenda to an asteroid impact that almost destroyed all life on the planet
woah so islamophobic
I was actually gonna pirate this as a joke, but after seeing the spoiler here I honestly don't want to anymore.
#KillYourself
Because Lightyear is a movie people probably thought would be on Disney+ day one, like the last four Pixar movies.
Lightyeardidhismom
I just realized I have not yet seen any fan art for this film on social media. Not even from those japanese female artists who draw every Pixar and Disney movie.
Nothing looks interesting in this bland as hell movie, and the sad part is, is that I like chocolate women. But the designs are atrocious.
maybe don't make the next set of main characters a bunch of dysgenic mystery meat abominations then
If someone told me a few years ago that a Paramount created Sonic movie would outclass a Disney Pixar movie, from the popular Toy Story franchise no less, I would have called them crazy. But, here we are.
Lightyear would’ve done a lot better had they just followed the Sonic’ route and simply had Keke Palmer as a love interest for diversity instead of forcing a lesbian sidekick.
nobody wants to watch gay garbage except for fujoshits.
who else needs half-assed and unsophisticated yaoi trash.
Fujoshi likes to see handsome dudes fricking, not ugly lesbians
It's a film nobody asked for
there goes "pixar cant be seriously toned" or "pixar cant be expressively wacky" within the span of a single FRICKING YEAR.
dreamworks, sony, wb, and netflix is about to clean sweep for the next decade while toy story 6 and whatever classic franchise they deem needs a 2nd or 3rd movie. inside out 2, give more random ideas and concepts a soul: the movie.
more princess shit from disney's aspect frozen 3: heating of hearts. more capeshit that wont hold a candle to what sony has done with their own property. all that while getting rewards out the ass and the highest of ratings for the same shit shit they have been doing for 2 decades now.
So they're saying that this movie is the movie that child Andy saw that made him want a Buzz Lightyear toy... does that mean Toy Story 1 was set in 2022, or that the Toy Story universe had super advanced CGI technology for movies back in 1995?
It means Andy's mom is a groomer.
People will blame the gays, and people will blame the art style, and people will blame the plot, but the real reason is a lack of brand recognition.
This Buzz is just too different from the one people know and love. People don't want their favorite properties reimagined, They want them to stay the same forever.
There are rape exceptions, but by and large, people don't want stuff they like to be reimagined.
homosexual hands typed this.
homosexual fingers was right there for you to use and you blew it
I'm sorry bro I'll try to do better in the other threads.
Everyone is sick of reboots, and we need to stop pretending they aren't.
And homosexual shit.
People complain about how all movies have homosexuals in them now, but it's always like some side character with less than a minute of screen time. And almost always a lesbian.
Wow it's almost like people don't like homosexual shit in any quantity.
>rape exceptions
>rape exceptions
>There are rape exceptions
hot
1. It's about fifteen years too late as a concept.
2. Animation hasn't been doing that great at the box office this year. Sure, The Bad Guys and Sing 2 are number 10 and number 11 on the year but Sing 2 only made two thirds what the first one did and The Bad Guys won;t even make as much domestically as ANTZ did almost twenty-five years agp .
3. It's in a really weird place where it's dependent on its status as a franchise film but doesn't look like it should be part of that franchise. It'd be like a Star Wars film that looks like a Bollywood musical; you're not going to really pull in fans who like the series but people who are tired of Star Wars in general won't have any interest in it either.
4. It has some of the fiercest box office competition in years. Disney couldn't have picked a worse time to release it especially since family films in general haven't really been doing that great at the box office since most parents would rather stream a movie instead of taking their kids to a theater.
in a way its better they didnt touch anything from the cartoon, who knows what evil shit they would had pulled of
Looks woke. Also looks vastly inferior to the disney cartoon.
Wasn't the original Buzz inspired from Buck Rogers and Flash Gordon? This movie looks like a version of Interstellar with a more grayish color scheme.
People are sick of homosexual shit in everything. Nigs or gays= no buy
doubt
>t.gay Black person lover
Bankrupt of creativity, the push of progressive elements, subversions, parallel timelines, multiverses, etc.
The usual
Not enough HYPER DEATH RAY?
Because he offended dinosaurs.
My step dad and his 8 year old went to see this and they both said it sucked
Bad word of mouth and poor marketing. The consensus seems to be that despite being visually impressive, the story and characters are weak and the movie moves in such a way that it's hard to come to know or really like any of them. And the twist about Zurg is either a hit or miss.