No matter on which side of this issue you are, you gotta admit that there were some fricking insane people on this documentary. It is completely incomprehensible to me how they are allowed to be in those positions.
>the puberty blockers you give to children and say are fine to take and won't stop you going through puberty at a later date if you change your mind are the same drugs used to permanently chemically castrate people? >yes but dont call them that, it sounds bad
if anyone watched that and still supports this shit, congratulations you are an evil piece of shit just like this c**t
>No matter on which side of this issue you are
Unless you're a pro transexual leftist in which case this is a story about a bigot bullying innocent trans rights activists who definitely aren't brainwashing and then chemically castrating children, lying about it at all and trying to silence any information about it.
Because they're quasi cultists trying to lead a literal revolution based on their own indoctrination and emotional distress. I mean like a literal revolution, they're usually radically left wing.
There's actually no such thing as transgender. That ideology is a recent invention and has been proven illegitimate. It's a work of fiction, no different from claiming to be "trans species" or "trans racial". In a healthy world we would be celebrating tomboys and feminine men for their differences, not gaslighting them into destroying their bodies. The world becomes a more liberated place when we disregard stereotypes about how men and women are "supposed to act and dress" and simply accept people as they are. As they ACTUALLY are, as feminine men and masculine women, not as made up identities invented by homophobic conversion therapists who actually want to kill LGB people.
>There is no such thing... because there just isnt!
Binary roles are not even universal, and they don't always conform to the kind of genitals you have. It's been observed outside christian societies that a person with penis chooses to live the roles of a woman, and it's not considered bad. The stigma is cultural and comes from christian squizos in the case of western societies.
>No matter on which side of this issue you are
This binary thinking is literally why the global elite can twist and turn the plebs by distracting them with inconsequential non-issues like trans.
Inflation is ass fricking the middle class. Housing is a catastrophe. Education is more indoctrination than learning and finally the environment gets fricked more and more every year while we watch, smile and say "we need to be more inclusive to 0.01% of the population".
>"Wow, inflation sure is ass-fricking the middle-class" >No it isn't. There's no inflation. Also inflation's good for the middle-class. Also it's Trump's fault. Fricking alt-righter. Why do you hate women, gays, and trans so much? >"What?" >Fricking subhuman nazi troony-hater, I'm calling your place of work and your bank and your service providers to get you cancelled.
Literally.
And you can do this with anything, when you control the public conversation. E.g., you're a politician under investigation for corruption, embezzling hundreds of thousands of dollars of public funds. BLM appears. You very loudly and conspicuously align yourself with BLM. You make literally everything that happens to you about BLM. They're only investigating you because they hate blacks. This is racism. Everyone needs to vote for you to keep you in office still. They need to vote against anyone who opposes you.
What the FRICK does BLM or racism or whatever have to do with you fricking stealing public funds?
Nothing.
But it doesn't matter. When you control the conversation, you can connect whatever dots you like. All you have to do is make some spurious connection, and then keep repeating it. Everyone who disagrees with you is [evil].
That's how everyone ends up talking about trannies.
Man I remember when gays were a little bit based and actually sided with "those mean heckin racists on Cinemaphile" to shit on EA for essentially using them to deflect criticism.
I really dont know how alot of the LGBT whatever crowd dont realize just how much theyre being exploited and used as bargaining chips and shields for criticism. >YOU DONT LIKE THING >FRICKING HOMOPHOBIC NAZI ALT RIGHTER JOE ROGAN TRUMPIST COVIDIOT NRA GUN NUT WHACKO >YOU JUST DONT LIKE IT CAUSE IT HAD GAY PEOPLE FOR 0.25 MILLISECONDS
Fair call. The 'social sciences professor' should be out tricking for wiener, not telling anyone what is right or wrong, or even true but apparently he doesn't do that.
>we need to trust the science >oh the science is heckin transphobic.
you realise the balding basedjak who created the show believes a zombie israelite came back to life 2000 years ago and that a magic supernatural force controls all of reality? the host trying to seem all smug and rational is far more deranged and detached from reality than any of the people he interviewed- people who just want to be left alone to do what they want with their own bodies. he’s literally a balding basedjak with a chi ro tattoo, he’s the quintessential christcuck
Why couldn't something exist outside of the material world? We are sentient. We love and feel. Why do you think that's a product of material, non emotional, things. By that logic computers will be able to feel pain and love (they won't, they can only be told to exibit the signs of it).
Your religion worships a pedophile who mutilated and raped kids, and his theory failed when those kids killed themselves. Gender ideology is a religion and you are a zealot.
religion is belief in god or gods. I don’t believe in gods. I don’t believe in any fundamental truth at all. i’m a nietzschean more than anything and I see no reason people can’t manipulate reality in any way they want. someone wearing a wig and cutting their penis off isn’t hurting anyone unless you appeal to made you traditions and moral shit- none of which exists or has basis in empirical reality. i am the exact opposite of a religious person, i’m just not a bigoted c**t who tries to pick and choose what is and isn’t okay to do to yourself by your own decisions.
Your beliefs are dogmatic. They're religious, and they hurt people. Gender ideology is about forcing people to live according to traditional stereotypes and roles. Anyone claiming it's about freedom or letting people do what they want fundamentally doesn't understand the ideology or who invented it. You cannot liberate people by piling more expectations, more labels and more categories on top of them. They didn't like the gender roles society's stigmas forced upon them so they're fleeing to the other set of sexist gender roles instead. It's equally harmful either way. Just do away with gender stereotypes entirely and you have a better, more liberated world. That means no gender identity garbage. No transgender ideology. Just ordinary girls who play rugby and boys who like having long hair, or knitting, cooking, whatever. Neither one ever being made to feel like they were "born wrong" for liking things that aren't stereotypical for them. That's the correct path through this mess. Not telling people they need to mutilate their bodies in an attempt to "fit in" with the opposite sex's stereotypes because they don't fit their own.
>just one strawman after another
tell me where I said these things. refer to the post you just replied. people should be able to do what they want. you are the religious zealot appealing to made up culturally ingrained morals about what’s acceptable
2 years ago
Anonymous
Your beliefs are dogmatic. They're religious, and they hurt people. Gender ideology is about forcing people to live according to traditional stereotypes and roles. Anyone claiming it's about freedom or letting people do what they want fundamentally doesn't understand the ideology or who invented it. You cannot liberate people by piling more expectations, more labels and more categories on top of them. They didn't like the gender roles society's stigmas forced upon them so they're fleeing to the other set of sexist gender roles instead. It's equally harmful either way. Just do away with gender stereotypes entirely and you have a better, more liberated world. That means no gender identity garbage. No transgender ideology. Just ordinary girls who play rugby and boys who like having long hair, or knitting, cooking, whatever. Neither one ever being made to feel like they were "born wrong" for liking things that aren't stereotypical for them. That's the correct path through this mess. Not telling people they need to mutilate their bodies in an attempt to "fit in" with the opposite sex's stereotypes because they don't fit their own.
this entire deranged situation is the direct result of secularism and atheism btw so you’re both wrong
2 years ago
Anonymous
It's LITERALLY your ideology dude. That's literally what you believe in, it's in every textbook and every phamplet about gender. "Boys act this way, girls act that way". That's SEXISM, idiot. You are a SEXIST and a BIGOT. You are not a good person and you aren't letting people "be free". You are LIMITING US.
2 years ago
Anonymous
>"Boys act this way, girls act that way". That's SEXISM, idiot.
That's science baby. Literal science with babies. Boys act one way and girls another.
2 years ago
Anonymous
Even if you can find a consistent pattern that's no reason to force boys to become girls just because they defy your pattern. That's why troony shit is evil no matter which political views you hold. That is my point. Let people be themselves, stop enforcing conformity.
2 years ago
Anonymous
Kathleen Stock has said some interesting things on total gender abolition. She essentially argues that due to our sexed bodies, a good portion of people will inevitably fall into stereotypes. Men are likely always going to take on most manual labour, due to being the stronger sex, at least until exoskeletons arrive. Women are likely always going to take on a good portion of caregiver roles, partly due to maternal instinct, partly due to lingering suspicion over men trying to take on certain roles.
But that doesn't mean we shouldn't try to reduce gender as much as possible and it doesn't mean we should punish people who step outside those stereotypes
2 years ago
Anonymous
>But that doesn't mean we shouldn't try to reduce gender as much as possible
By killing all women and reproducing via artificial wombs.
2 years ago
Anonymous
Exactly. Just let the differences between people occur naturally. Some boys will prefer dolls, some girls will prefer sports. They're not wrong for going against the grain, but normies aren't wrong for going with the grain by liking stereotypical things either. Just let it be and it's fine. It's only a problem when you say "MY BOY HAS TO BE A FOOTBALL FAN OR HE'S JUST A GIRLY WIMP" or "MY BOY LIKES PLAYING WITH DOLLS THAT MEANS HE'S A GIRL ON THE INSIDE". Both are equally insane and both rely on the absolute religious worship of stereotypes.
2 years ago
Anonymous
but the leftist mindset isn't even logical at the first hurdle (i'm sure you realize). To say that a tendency towards dolls is an indicator of being a women, while at the same time totally rejecting the actual biological basis for human's without Y chromosomes to prefer dolls vs combat sports makes no sense. "that person likes dolls" should just be a statement of fact with no connotation if they took their own cult seriously. It's clear they are just the weakest minded of all humans, ready to sacrifice their own children to a cult in the same way Aztec people did without any remorse.
2 years ago
Anonymous
Agreed completely. If their beliefs were in any way sincere or logical they would be doing the opposite of what they are now. They would be breaking down limitations rather than building them up.
2 years ago
Anonymous
>dyke feminist professor
Opinion discarded. Feminist use this conciliatory language to fool men into false sense of security and then they stab them in the back. They cry about gender roles and then use affirmative action to steal jobs and university places from men on the basis of gender.
2 years ago
Anonymous
Stop blaming your women for things that israelites are doing to you. Dumb golem.
2 years ago
Anonymous
I am not blaming MY women. Women here are great, they hate feminism. Its YOUR women who try to brainwash them with this gender abolition nonsense.
2 years ago
Anonymous
And men move out of their mother's house. You didn't.
2 years ago
Anonymous
Not only is everything you said a lie, but it's intensely bigoted and homophobic. I'm a gay man with many "feminine" qualities. I'm comfortable with them. That doesn't make me a woman, that doesn't mean I want to be a woman, that doesn't make me transgender. You are taking the possibility for me to simply be comfortable with myself as a feminine man off of the table. And you're doing the same to masculine women as well. You are a homophobic bigot and everything you believe in actively kills and maims people like me. Gender ideology is conversion therapy.
2 years ago
Anonymous
Total bullshit. Your ideology actively harms me and I'm a gay crossdresser. The thing you called "gender" is actually called a stereotype. They're not identities and they aren't noble. There's nothing good about them. They're actually offensive simple minded caricatures that hurt people. There is no such thing as gender. Gender ideology is conversion therapy. You're just trying to codify and enforce sets of behavior as "masculine" and "feminine" so you can force people to obey them. Feminine men are allowed to exist. They aren't women. And masculine women are not men. Why are you trying to elevate and reinforce something that only exists to hurt people? Stereotypes are not meant to be worshiped. In reality all we have is biological sex, and either sex can act and dress any way they please. That's what a free world looks like. A free world has no place for your homophobic and sexist "gender" garbage.
>just one strawman after another
tell me where I said these things. refer to the post you just replied. people should be able to do what they want. you are the religious zealot appealing to made up culturally ingrained morals about what’s acceptable
>I don’t believe in gods. I don’t believe in any fundamental truth at all.
But here you are preaching "tolerance" for the sake of "Man", and railing against the great evil of "bigotry". Just because your religious ideas are mainstream doesnt mean they have any validity. You are getting your panties in a twist because your sacred ideas cannot stand up to scrutiny and yet you try to paint yourself as some sort of enlightened individualist. Stop making fool of yourself.
troony infighting lmfao
2 years ago
Anonymous
That's not infighting. LGB people have always hated trannies and we always will, no matter what your JP Morgan float says.
2 years ago
Anonymous
Let me guess, you currently live in an urban area and have for the better part of your life?
2 years ago
Anonymous
No, I live in the country and everyone in my community is conservative, including me. Why are you taking issue with an objectively true post that shits on trannies?
Trans people simply have body dysmorphia or gender dysphoria. These are mental illnesses and have been defined as mental illness until 2016 when, I believe, the CDC took it off their mental illness list. Why did they do this? It's likely because at that time, it was determined that the best and only way to "cure or treat" gender dysphoria is gender affirmation, including surgeries. Now why is this? For one, it's extremely profitable, and the second reason is because when they took it off the mental illness list, it's now EXTREMELY difficult to receive grant money for researching treatments based on it being a mental disorder. What this means is that, because of the "right choice" being gender affirmation surgery, it is now nearly impossible to study the dysphoria in relation to brain chemistry and mental illness, which is what it is.
. It's just that you're encouraging mental illness. If there was a sudden representation of schizophrenic people in television shows and movies and it is given a lens of "normal" or "their truth," then we would inevitably see a large influx of people either acting like they're schizophrenic or identifying as schizophrenic, as it is seen as trendy.
Total bullshit. Your ideology actively harms me and I'm a gay crossdresser. The thing you called "gender" is actually called a stereotype. They're not identities and they aren't noble. There's nothing good about them. They're actually offensive simple minded caricatures that hurt people. There is no such thing as gender. Gender ideology is conversion therapy. You're just trying to codify and enforce sets of behavior as "masculine" and "feminine" so you can force people to obey them. Feminine men are allowed to exist. They aren't women. And masculine women are not men. Why are you trying to elevate and reinforce something that only exists to hurt people? Stereotypes are not meant to be worshiped. In reality all we have is biological sex, and either sex can act and dress any way they please. That's what a free world looks like. A free world has no place for your homophobic and sexist "gender" garbage.
>I'm a gay crossdresser.
The absolute state of nu-/tv/.
I remember when feetposting was where it was at. Now it's this weird troony fixation.
Don't even reply if you don't know what my image is btw. It means you're a gay newbie.
>I don’t believe in gods. I don’t believe in any fundamental truth at all.
But here you are preaching "tolerance" for the sake of "Man", and railing against the great evil of "bigotry". Just because your religious ideas are mainstream doesnt mean they have any validity. You are getting your panties in a twist because your sacred ideas cannot stand up to scrutiny and yet you try to paint yourself as some sort of enlightened individualist. Stop making fool of yourself.
do you have a single argument that isn’t just putting words in peoples mouth? why are /misc/tards so schizophrenic? literally all i’m saying is let people do what they want and you invent some insane cope or ulterior motive for me saying that and insist i’m religious.
2 years ago
Anonymous
You aren't letting people do what they want. You are the one restricting people's behavior. That's what gender ideology is. It's a codified set of stereotypes for behavior assigned to men and women. That's not a noble thing, dude.
2 years ago
Anonymous
Please address this:
Please see: [...]. It's just that you're encouraging mental illness. If there was a sudden representation of schizophrenic people in television shows and movies and it is given a lens of "normal" or "their truth," then we would inevitably see a large influx of people either acting like they're schizophrenic or identifying as schizophrenic, as it is seen as trendy.
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2 years ago
Anonymous
let me do what i want, to call you a man
2 years ago
Anonymous
>noooo, only trannies are alowed to do what they want!
2 years ago
Anonymous
Okay, I will dumb it down to your level. Creationism is wrong and evolution is correct. Would you complain if people taught creationism in schools, policy was made using Young Earth Creationism and you were censored for speaking about evolution? Its just people doing what they want after all.
2 years ago
Anonymous
but no scientist agrees with the old binary man woman thing anymore and it’s a language game that you’ve imposed onto a reality that isn’t as clear cut as you want it to be.
2 years ago
Anonymous
>no scientist agrees with the old binary man woman thing
Kek, you claim to not be religious yet here you go with clericalism. If you understant the argument the scientists present then explain it in your own words. If not then stop with your appeals to experts.
2 years ago
Anonymous
>but no scientist agrees with the old binary man woman thing
Frick off they don't, sex in humans is binary. Anyone saying anything else is doing so as a propagandist, not a scientist. >b-but what about DSDs
All either male or female.
2 years ago
Anonymous
>no scientist agrees with the old binary man woman thing
Kek, you claim to not be religious yet here you go with clericalism. If you understant the argument the scientists present then explain it in your own words. If not then stop with your appeals to experts.
>I, THE MIDWIT Cinemaphile INCEL, KNOW BETTER THAN THE SCIENTISTS!!! SCIENCE THAT CHALLANGES MY BELEIFS IS PROPAGANDA
2 years ago
Anonymous
Science is a method, not a doctrine. You're lower than a midwit if you can't understand that.
2 years ago
Anonymous
>science isn’t real
thanks for nothing
2 years ago
Anonymous
>if something isnt eternal doctrine its not real
We are reaching new heights of religious dogmatism here.
2 years ago
Anonymous
why do we employ scientific method in the first place
2 years ago
Anonymous
To test our assumptions. Science is never "done". You should always be testing your assumptions. Even when those assumptions were long held to be true.
2 years ago
Anonymous
To determine whether conclusions of experiment accord with hypothesis.
2 years ago
Anonymous
a method which the most current understanding of you go against because the implications upset you
2 years ago
Anonymous
>the most current understanding
So explain it then. You claim to have your views based on science, so provide scientific explanation. If you cant do that then you have nothing.
2 years ago
Anonymous
gender is not an essential element of reality and is the result of cultural indoctrination and has nothing to do with science. the physical reality of biology has no clear cut boundaries
2 years ago
Anonymous
So changing people's bodies to match their "gender" is inherently unethical according to your own theory. There's no reason a biological man can't be pretty and there's no reason a biological woman can't be hairy and tough. Even allowing "transitioning" is inherently harmful because it reinfroces sexist stereotypes. What you're doing is in the same vein as gaslighting a flat chested 14 year old girl into getting tit implants because she feels pressured by society into having big breasts. Don't change her body. Change society.
2 years ago
Anonymous
>gender is not an essential element of reality
Okay. >the physical reality of biology has no clear cut boundaries
This is not true. Sexes in oogamous species are clearly seperate.
2 years ago
Anonymous
>gender is not an essential element of reality and is the result of cultural indoctrination
I would 100% disagree with this statement. It's very obvious that every society in human history developed the same basic way out of necessity, men weren't forced to be strong and women weren't forced to be weak.
>the physical reality of biology has no clear cut boundaries
Of course it does, chromosomes. If you've got a Y, you're a guy.
2 years ago
Anonymous
The people who push gender ideolgy didn't use the scientific method at all. You're ignoring reality because it upsets you. And you ran away from an argument with an actual gay person in this thread who proved you wrong.
2 years ago
Anonymous
Have you ever wondered why is it that your opinions allign perfectly with the contemporary ones? You are natural cattle, you would be Nazi in WW2 Germany, Communist in Cold War Russia and pious Christian in Middle Ages.
2 years ago
Anonymous
/misc/ is just the political board, but we ALL share the same ideology. Remember where you are, troony.
You're actually moronic if you think any of this stuff happened naturally. Peel back the curtain even a little and it's obvious this is being done on purpose, maliciously, with hundreds of trillions of dollars poured into propaganda and bribes and astroturfing campaigns. Everything you rightfully hate about the modern world is being done to you by powerful, evil people. None of it happened by accident and none of would have happened naturally.
Doesn’t discount anything i’ve said. Only secular society could be susceptible to this sort of thing because their morals are so interchangeable and transient. I’m not surprised homosexual propagandising is growing in effectiveness every day.
that's like saying how are all those insane people in positions of power in a church. it's literally just another religion. They do not need any more of a definition of a woman than a religious zealot needs to be able to sort out contradictions in doctrine.
>24/7 troony media saturation >social media grooming kids to become trannies >mandatory child transitioning >misgendering is a criminal offence >raping children
they need to be stopped
It’s literally a criminal offense in canada to intentionally misgender someone. Did you miss the bit about the dad going to jail for trying to stop these lunatics from trooning his daughter?
No, because I dont live in Canada and I dont obsessively follow the latest troony news like you. Once again, you have a massively warped view of the way the world is because you live on /misc/ and actively seek this shit out 24/7.
Its literally in the movie this thread is about. There is an interview with the guy. What are you even doing here if havent watched it?
2 years ago
Anonymous
I literally didnt watch it because I'm literally not a troony obsessed /misc/tard and I literally dont spend every waking moment seeking this shit out like you do. I'm in this thread to laugh at you and your deranged schizo fixation with trannies.
And yet you have he/him and she/her bios in every other leftist's Twitter even though they are cis. It seems that you are the ones who are obsessed and we are just reacting to your obsession.
I like it when girls put pronouns in their profiles even if they're cis and straight because it's an instant red flag to not try to get with them. Modern day human aposematism
Because most of them are filthy ghouls who live online.
Your average Cinemaphile poster can empathise with that, but don't quite have the same level of mental illness to lop their wiener off in persuit of a sexual fetish.
>deliberately try to obliterate societal norms going back thousands of years and denying millions of years of biology >"hey maybe we shouldn't-" >"UGH WHY DO YOU EVEN CARE? LIKE SWEETIE YOU'RE SO OBSESSED"
Frick off homosexual. This is Cinemaphile. We ALL hate trannies. Cinemaphile is the global center of the anti-transgender movement. It’s the only place online that actively promotes Christian family values. We are the last holdouts against the antichrist. It doesn’t matter if the title of the board is “Television & Film”, our entire purpose on Cinemaphile is to be a part of the movement and defend Christian values.
lmao what is wrong with americans and western europeans? why are their nations so cucked and gay compared to the rest of the world? everytime i go on twitter in WE and USA spaces i see people complaining about waking up in the morning, hating mondays, and seeing s.oy enfused homies on there all the time. and the cherry on top is that they worship Black folk and trannies so much and all of their men want to BECOME women. so sad
God took the israelites inheritance away and gave it to the Greeks (Europeans). We are the Christian Sons of God. Satan and his demons, working through the israelites seeks to destroy us.
This is like if .01% of people started LARPing as knights or diaperfurs and everyone had to play along or get fired. Womanhood isn't a choice or an identity, it's biology.
>LARPing as knights
I would unironically be 100% behind a trans-knighthood movement if it meant I could walk down the street in full armour with a sword and no one could say shit
That's never been the case. Not everyone assumes an identity just because they have peepee or vegana. What are you gonna do then? Scream that is LE BAD because it doesn't concur with what the opinions in the bible say about sexuality?
Your biological sex is either female or male, that will always be a reality. But beyond that you can express yourself however you want. You can dress however you want. You don't ever need to tell people you're "gender fluid" or "trans" to excuse the fact that you're a man who wants to wear makeup. Just say that you're a man who doesn't mind going against the grain. That's what a free world looks like. That's what our world should look like. Most people won't judge you for shaving your legs and wearing makeup. Some people will even find it attractive. The transgender fad is actually hurting real LGB people. It's telling them they aren't allowed to defy stereotypes. It's telling them that women have to get surgery and take testosterone if they don't want to be "girly". Do you not see how harmful the transgender fad is? How much is victimizes real LGB people? The world you want is within reach and supporting this fad will only take us further away.
>lol virgin
you weirdos haven't advanced your social shaming tactics in decades. They always ring hollow coming from a disgusting sexless blob like the kind of troon who would waste his days on Cinemaphile trying to defend against such a simple movie as this.
Okay but seriously though, honest question from a guy who wants to understand: how do you define it now? Woman no longer means “lacking a Y chromosome” clearly. And you’re sexist and leaning into “gender roles” if you associate any feminine traits with womanhood. Being feminine doesn’t make you a woman, apparently, since butch as hell lesbians are women as well as trans women who barely make the effort.
So what the frick is the definition? Does the movie offer any answer? Or is it just a vague “being a woman is a feeling in your gut” conclusion?
If there were no words or language, females would still exist. It's a biological reality.
2 years ago
Anonymous
this, words and definitions change, the objects the words and definitions describe don't change, if I start calling a chair a hat, it's still a chair and functions as a chair I'm just using a different word for it
2 years ago
Anonymous
>a rose by any other name...
2 years ago
Anonymous
>this, words and definitions change, the objects the words and definitions describe don't change, if I start calling a chair a hat, it's still a chair and functions as a chair I'm just using a different word for it
I think it just needs a little tweaking
Sensible person: a woman is an adult human female.
Progtard: no, a woman is anyone who identifies as one.
Sensible person: while words and their definitions can change, the subject/object of those words and definitions don't change. You may be a chair, and identify as a hat. You calling yourself a hat does not mean you actually fit on anyone's head or are comfortable to wear. You're something to sit on and muffle farts with. Likewise, you may identify as a woman but you will never appear to be one nor qualify as one in any official or legally relevant situation. You are denying the simple reality of what I see before me.
2 years ago
Anonymous
hey, i made a post with this point some year ago, did you come to this by yourself too?
I think this proves an idea of mine too.
that the new genderideology MUST be spread from person to person.
The cant individually look at the world and come to the same conclusion
We can, because we base our belief on things we can see, therefore we dont have to meet to think the same thing.
if this is true, the disapearance of the gender ideology is inevitable
2 years ago
Anonymous
The older I get the more I realize everything is bullshit. People layer abstraction on top of abstraction until they don't remember the reality the abstraction applies to.
When you try to do a reality check the abstraction-brained NPCs get aggro. They don't like being reminded of the truth.
they won't say anything, they will refuse to answer the question, usually by answering a different question and pretending they answered the one you asked. y'know, like a politician.
They don't have one. That's the whole point of the movie, they are unable to define the word because they have created so many layers of doublethink and gibberish that they are no longer capable of any rational thought.
It's like if you redefine 2+2 to be 5, but don't change anything else about math. 1+3 is still 4, 0+4 is still 4, but 2+2=5.
2 years ago
Anonymous
By the logic of your post, you need to be able to cogently and briefly answer your own question. If they think 2 + 2 = 5, you need to not only correct them with 4, but explain how you got to that answer.
2 years ago
Anonymous
well, first you assume that you exist. then you assume that your senses are accurate. then you assume that beliefs need to be validated by evidence. then you assume that...
2 years ago
Anonymous
>you need to be able to cogently and briefly answer your own question. If they think 2 + 2 = 5, you need to not only correct them with 4, but explain how you got to that answer.
They know 2+2=4. Everybody knows what a woman is, it's an adult female human. The point is not that they don't know, it's that they're willfully choosing to ignore reality. You can't apply logic to these people.
2 years ago
Anonymous
We can mathematically prove that 2 + 2 = 4 and we can biologically define what a female is. Woman is the English term for an adult human female. If woman no longer means this then we just need a new term for adult human female and we’ll use that. There’s a point where it turns from a discussion of science to a discussion of language
2 years ago
Anonymous
>you need to be able to cogently and briefly answer your own question. If they think 2 + 2 = 5, you need to not only correct them with 4, but explain how you got to that answer.
They know 2+2=4. Everybody knows what a woman is, it's an adult female human. The point is not that they don't know, it's that they're willfully choosing to ignore reality. You can't apply logic to these people.
Copy pasting
its postmodernism
In architecture postmodernism is taking any iconography from the past and using it there it fits(pic is really ugly tough), the point being, everyone knows about the roman pillar, so nobody is confused about the big honking eyesore in the middle
The same goes for the gender bullshit going on now
anyone can just call themselves a woman, but nobody will define what a woman is because they all bank on everyone still knowing the 90s and before definition of a woman, but without actually saying it out loud
2 years ago
Anonymous
>Okay but seriously though, honest question from a guy who wants to understand: how do you define it now?
In the human sexual binary, woman is the category lesser than a man. They are generally and on average, smaller, slimmer and physically weaker while typically having a nurturing or meek temperament. They are second class citizens and beneath men in competitions, physical challenges and under pressure.
If you ask and they can't answer, you plop down a loaded, shitty answer and make them correct it.
It amazes me that I’m supposed to take these people seriously
For the laymen that buy into this insane bullshit the new definition is a women/female is simply a "feeling". If a biological man wakes up one day and "feels" like a women then he's to classed as a women. The reason I said this is the layman's definition is because the schizo's that also buy into this insanity but have little more intelligence realise the MASSIVE inherent logical/rationale/philosophical/epistemological flaw in this type of thinking. If the parameters that we've classified women with since the dawn of human history are simply made up social constructs and they're meaningless than what exactly is the point of troony men wanting to conform to them? Having a vegana doesn't make you a women, so why then do trannies undergo surgery to create fake ones? And etc etc.. for every other parameter that troony men start conforming to when they LARP as "women" but also at the same time say are social constructs that don't make biological women women and biological men not women.
Most of them will circle around "a woman is a person who identifies as a woman," stumble around further probing questions, and then denounce you as an instaphobe.
he doesn't really answer the question himself. closest we get is the scientific definitions from the doctor. as much as we all hate trannies this documentary wasn't particularly effective.
>Okay but seriously though, honest question from a guy who wants to understand: how do you define it now?
In the human sexual binary, woman is the category lesser than a man. They are generally and on average, smaller, slimmer and physically weaker while typically having a nurturing or meek temperament. They are second class citizens and beneath men in competitions, physical challenges and under pressure.
If you ask and they can't answer, you plop down a loaded, shitty answer and make them correct it.
A woman is a human adult that(when not deformed or socially maladjusted) is pursued by males for pairing, companionship and mating. In contrast, men compete for a woman's attention and approval for the opportunity to mate and a chance at the reproductive act.
Trannies will never have men(or lesbians) compete for their attention and approval, and therefore will never be women.
A woman is a vessel. They are the sacred ark of the holy union. If you marry a trad girl and have a decent family life with her, your offspring will adjust well to the world and their surroundings, because you as men will provide and a woman will nurture. This is an eternal dance of nature. Not just humans but the universe.
Most of this fricked up people, trannies, and other insane bastards will never understand that because they are not raised and bred as human beings. They are the product of fricking. Marriage union and fricking are two completely different things. One is born out of love, the other out of lust. So, fellow anons/femanons, you must find a decent man or woman who understands their role in life.
>trans women
No such thing. They are not women in any shape or form. Just mutilated mentally ill men. And trannies wouldnt be an issue if they werent pushed everywhere by progressives. So stop being disingenuous homosexual.
>Most of them say they're trans women.
A trans woman, by literal definition, is a woman that is trans. That is, a woman who was born as a woman, and has decided to alter her body to look masculine.
What you think a "trans woman" is, doesn't exist. The terms are mutually exclusive.
>Woman no longer means “lacking a Y chromosome” clearly
It's an adult human that has XX chromosomes >But muh intersex!
How many chromosomes does the human species have? Should we say "we don't know" because there are some rare genetic mutation exceptions like with handicaps or is it 46?
> a guy who wants to understand
Cinemaphile is not a place for learning. American Psychological Association has some info about it, gender disphoria etc.
https://www.apa.org/topics/lgbtq/transgender
Chuds are not particularly smart about sexuality or women in that regard (wonder why),
but every source people are supposed to rely on are turning against the people, so only unironically based platforms like Cinemaphile and satire websites are all that's left.
Please see: [...]. It's just that you're encouraging mental illness. If there was a sudden representation of schizophrenic people in television shows and movies and it is given a lens of "normal" or "their truth," then we would inevitably see a large influx of people either acting like they're schizophrenic or identifying as schizophrenic, as it is seen as trendy.
He doesn't answer it either. He ends the movie by stupidly reading the dictionary definition, and through the character of his wife so he can add his own gay little gender stereotype affirming scenario.
This is what passes for documentary on Cinemaphile.
You're the one who wants to affirm gender stereotypes. That's what troonyism is. The entire thing is about forcing people to live according to stereotypes. Do you not even understand your own belief system?
>everything that agrees with me is based >everyone who hates must be a troony
Obsessed and babby brained. Have you even ever met a troony? Are there trannies in the room right now?
I thought this documentary was kinda shitty. While it does expose these psychos, all but the most stupid people he interviewed knew pretty quickly that he was a hostile and therefore they went on the defensive. He should have asked questions for longer and let them talk themselves deeper into the hole - the fact that so many people figured out he had a side showed what a shitty interviewer he was. Even from the first scene where he says "the only emotional support my boy needs is a bb gun" is pretty low IQ, so you know he wasn't the right guy to investigate this topic anyways
>he was a hostile and therefore they went on the defensive.
he was calm, never raised his voice and asked fairly simple questions
they went on the defensive because he was questioning their native, it doesn't matter how you approach them or how nicely you ask they will always get defensive because you can't honestly defend any of their viewpoints
I watched 20 or so minutes and turned it off. Only good part was the Star Wars store owner. The majority of it was just confirming our already held opinions by interviewing the craziest people they could find.
I left it on in the background and it didn't get any better after you turned it off. The poorly acted ending where his wife, in the kitchen cooking, asks him to open a jar was laughable. Missed opportunity really.
>he was a hostile and therefore they went on the defensive.
he was calm, never raised his voice and asked fairly simple questions
they went on the defensive because he was questioning their native, it doesn't matter how you approach them or how nicely you ask they will always get defensive because you can't honestly defend any of their viewpoints
He didn't raise his voice, but anyone with an IQ over room temperature figured out he was a hostile fairly quickly by his questioning. He could have covered the same ground with people just by rephrasing the questions. I mean when he went to interview the politician and he jumps right into bathrooms that was just a dumb interviewing mistake that shows he already had an opinion.
if when you explain your beliefs without the listener already agreeing
It's means your beliefs are insane, king's new clothes
Oh these people are obviously insane, no arguments there. I just meant the documentary wasn't very effective because he wasn't able to get the real meat out of his subjects.
> the documentary wasn't very effective because he wasn't able to get the real meat out of his subjects.
Elaborate. What do you think there was to get that he didn't?
He very successfully exposed them as dishonest. There's not anything else to get from dishonest people.
A good interviewer would go along with the person’s beliefs and not really argue with them. You can argue against the person later on when commenting on the interview where you let them reveal the full crazy. There was a documentary series called Brainwash(hrjemvask or something originally) that did this extremely well.
Haven’t seen the movie, but I’m guessing Walsh tried challenging the people in order to get funny moments of people storming out rather than explain stuff like how many of them believe sexuality can be divorced from sex.
did you even watch the documentary? he let them go on for quite a while about their beliefs without challenging, only hitting back after they've completely exposed themselves, which is why he's able to expose their hypocrisy and circular logic so well
are you trolling?
>Haven’t seen the movie, but I’m guessing Walsh tried ...
no he didn't but better listen while he tells you what happened in the thing you watched and he didnt
It's not that at all. He doesn't need to do any of those things. The woman who is a dean at Brown Medical college didn't try to shut down the interview until he asked about the chemical castration drug, Lupron, that she prescribes to children. The congressman didn't shut it down until he asked about how they accommodate women who feel uncomfortable being around biological males in restrooms and the gender studies professor didn't really get huffy until Walsh used the word 'Truth', fr.
Seems like a waste. He should have Theroux'd these interviews and let these people talk themselves in deeper. Instead this documentary is just a gotcha one, where it could have been a really effective thing at actually helping these kids being abused
Basically he jumped into the gotcha questions too soon and got his interviewers to shut down. He made it too obvious too early that he had a strong opinion, and the documentary would have been better had he approached it as having no opinion and let the viewers decide.
2 years ago
Anonymous
You're just repeating yourself.
What else was there to get? You're claiming he could have gotten something more valuable from them but you aren't saying what.
They're NPCs. He was demonstrating that they are NPCs. He did so effectively.
It's extremely therouesque. You haven't watched Louis if you think he doesn't direct convos. He does it all the time. The most common thing he ever says is
What else was there to get? You're claiming he could have gotten something more valuable from them but you aren't saying what.
They're NPCs. He was demonstrating that they are NPCs. He did so effectively.
>reddit spacing
Louis lets people get much deeper into their opinions and tries to see where they are coming from, also i must have missed the Theroux documentaries where midway he breaks down the wall and tells his opinion. Have you watched Louis's transgender documentary? It's actually a pretty good example of what I'm talking about on how to get a meatier substance
2 years ago
Anonymous
Seems like you're just concern trolling.
The interviews were perfect. He exposed the leftists as dishonest. There is nothing else to be gained from talking to liars.
>interviewing the craziest people they could find
Which would be fine if they were all delegated to twitter. However as the doc showed these nutcases hold public and private positions of societal influence. troony defenders are always downplaying this
Sure, but what is a troony? Either a woman. Or a man wanting to be a woman. Both belong in the oven. Enough with this nonsense already, we need to correct God's biggest mistake and if he has a problem with that we need to correct him too.
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[...] >mutilating your son's dick to LARP as long-dead israelites and have their skin ground up into a powder to be smeared on aging women's faces is perfectly normal and good, goyim
incase you are confused about my standpoint
circumcision is evil and exactly the same as this troony bullshit
somehow morons don't view circumcision as exactly the same type of child abuse as this troony shit, which it is plain and simple
being circumcised isn't what caused your life to be shit.
>mutilating your son's dick to LARP as long-dead israelites and have their skin ground up into a powder to be smeared on aging women's faces is perfectly normal and good, goyim
>The Daily Wire is an American conservative news website and media company founded in 2015 by political commentator Ben Shapiro
listen goy, thats going too far
Trans people are a sliver of the world's population. There are so few of them it's not even funny. And I'll admit, the idea of changing your sex is pretty absurd and hard to wrap your head around. In other words, it's confusing and rare. So if you're a regular kind of guy that just wants to get through the day with as little bullshit as possible, you might want to brush off the subject of trans people with a comment like, "A man's a man, a woman's a woman, and if you disagree you're delusional or stupid!"
What this documentary has done is basically tell a shit ton of lies and half truths to validate that knee-jerk reaction by interviewing people that have a huge bug up their ass about trans people and then not interviewing any actual trans people or even cisgender allies so that the lies aren't debunked and the other half of the half-truths don't come out. This is what this movie is - Bad filmmakers pushing their political agenda.
I really don't know where I stand on the idea/issue tbh. Mostly because it doesn't make sense to me (I've tried). I'd never be mean to a trans person, but idk I think people should either be able to identify as anything whether that be a rock, a squirrel, or another race or you have to stop telling me you're a woman/man because you "feel" a certain way. I've never felt like a man or a woman, and I guess that means I should be a they/them, but when I look between my legs I know what I am regardless of my feelings/interests. A woman either has to have a vegana (a real one) or anyone can identify as ANYTHING. It's all or nothing. That's the only way it can make sense imo.
Agreed. To me, men have benis, woman have bagina, that's how I make sense of the world. But there are a niche of mentally ill people and I don't see any benefit of beating up on them and I also don't see this documentary as particularly helpful to understanding where the balance may be.
The basic reality is that you still can't answer the titular question, though. Doesn't matter how "bad" you think the film is, its premise stands, and will forever stand until you face reality.
Oh I believe I know reality, I don't think this documentary answers the real question though. What is a woman? isn't the question that gets to the bottom of how to help/deal with this trans issue. This was just a cash grab that appeals to one side of a division.
>isn't the question that gets to the bottom of how to help/deal with this trans issue.
It's a question that exposes their complete lack of grip on reality. You can deal with people who operate based on logic. X is okay, Y isn't. You can't deal with zealotry, either you wipe it out or it wipes you out.
I feel bad for people with gender dysphoria, it sounds horrible. But having that co-opted into a social movement that makes no sense? This kind of stuff is just dangerous to vulnerable members of society.
Nobody has gender dysphoria, that's not a real thing. It's a fabricated mental illness that never existed until it was invented and then pushed onto people. Basically it's abuse, and by pretending it's real you enable that abuse. No different from gaslighting a kid with racist rhetoric into thinking they were born wrong and giving them "race dysphoria". It doesn't exist without abuse.
>But there are a niche of mentally ill people and I don't see any benefit of beating up on them
It's because they are psychotic bullies wielding the power of government and international institutions.
it doesn't matter that they're trannies. they could've been christcucks or furries for all it matters. what matters is that they've ended up being empowered to behave as badly as they want to by the current social trends
of course, the whole point about them is that what's being done for them is indefensible. literally, that's the point. it's completely indefensible to say that a man can become a woman or vice versa. it's literally impossible. so, the act of saying it in spite of this represents a conspicuous signal of tribal affiliation. that's why e.g., supreme court justices are afraid to even talk about it for fear of saying something wrong. it's not because anyone gives a shit about trannies. it's because accepting the whole confluence of troony psychosis has become a signal that you're on the right side of history or whatever. that's why you lose your job if you say anything wrong on this. again, it's not about the trannies, it's about the trannies having become associated with this strain of elite culture and are being used as a loyalty test
from one point of view, the people who should be most upset about this are the trannies themselves. but from another point, they're gaining a huge amount of unearned privilege and tolerance for their evil shit as a result so one can see how they're okay with it. literally, you rape a girl in a school's bathroom and just invoke troonyism and it will be covered up and the parent of the girl will be investigated by the FBI as a potential terrorist for complaining about it.
that's a lot of power.
which is why it should bother you. it should bother everyone.
>it doesn't matter that they're trannies. they could've been christcucks or furries for all it matters
this is a good point, because the Trans movement is very like a religious one: they believe a person has an essence ('soul' in religious terms) that is separate or distinct from their physical body, and that a soul can be trapped "in the wrong body."
Trans people simply have body dysmorphia or gender dysphoria. These are mental illnesses and have been defined as mental illness until 2016 when, I believe, the CDC took it off their mental illness list. Why did they do this? It's likely because at that time, it was determined that the best and only way to "cure or treat" gender dysphoria is gender affirmation, including surgeries. Now why is this? For one, it's extremely profitable, and the second reason is because when they took it off the mental illness list, it's now EXTREMELY difficult to receive grant money for researching treatments based on it being a mental disorder. What this means is that, because of the "right choice" being gender affirmation surgery, it is now nearly impossible to study the dysphoria in relation to brain chemistry and mental illness, which is what it is.
You should be mean to trannies. I mean that sincerely, as somebody who has been attacked by them relentlessly for being a "prettyboy" with long hair. All trannies are groomers and they're always predatory. The things they believe in are inherently sexist, inherently bigoted and inherently homophobic. Their cult is all about conversion therapy. They do what they do because they're hateful and spiteful, nothing about their narrative is sincere.
>I really don't know where I stand on the idea/issue tbh.
Let me help you. In post-WW2 Germany there was a doctor by the name of Helmut Kentler(pic related). Helmut Kentler was avowed antifascist and came up with theory that fascism is related to sexual repression. So to test his theories he, with blessing of goverment, conducted several experiments where he placed many children into foster care of pedophiles. He himself was homosexual and abused several children. This was all done in the name of his leftist ideology. It wasnt public knowledge that this was happening but it wasnt hidden either(there were similar cases in the form of leftist Kinderladen). His victims have recently started speaking out. Your attitude is exactly reason this was allowed to happen. There is obvious abuse going on and you are worried about being mean.
>https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2021/07/26/the-german-experiment-that-placed-foster-children-with-pedophiles
Yes, I read about him in the New Yorker aarticle.
The basic reality is that you still can't answer the titular question, though. Doesn't matter how "bad" you think the film is, its premise stands, and will forever stand until you face reality.
since this doc was released (and long before that) people have been giving this answer, but the troons and troon adjacents just ignore it, then claim no one else can define it either
There's no such thing as "transgender". You are whatever you were born as. It can't change. Nobody is ever born in the wrong body. You've adopted a harmful and cancerous ideology that flies in the face of all reason and human decency. Boys don't have to stop being boys to feel pretty. Girls don't have to stop being girls to enjoy sports. The ideas you're supporting are bigoted and sexist. You're not a good person. Your fad doesn't make you unique or interesting. It just makes you a fool who can't think for himself and isn't brave enough to defy stereotypes. Stop enabling death cults that prey on the vulnerable and sensitive. Stop reinforcing sexist stereotypes. Stop marginalizing and erasing tomboys and femboys. Stop attacking LGB people for refusing to have sex with you.
>Boys don't have to stop being boys to feel pretty. Girls don't have to stop being girls to enjoy sports
I really dont get why this got thrown out the windows. I played with my sisters barbies growing up, and some girls in my elementary school liked trucks and hockey and other "boy stuff" and no one ever really shit on them or tried to compartmentalize them into a box. Like at most you'd hear stuff like "he's sensitive" for guys or "tomboy" for girls but for most people neither of those terms were seen as a bad thing.
I dont get why now it's become WOAH IS THAT BOY COLORING A GIRLS COLORING BOOK, CUT HIS PENIS OFF IMMEDIATELY HE'S HECKIN TRANS AND IF YOU SAY OTHERWISE YOURE A BIGOT.
Because they want to enforce conformity, and the idea of somebody who doesn't obey all of the norms and stereotypes society offers them is heresy. Trannies and anyone who supports trannies are just intesnsely sexist and homophobic bigots who would gladly slaughter every single child that presents any trait they might consider "unusual".
>Trans people are a sliver of the world's population
Still too many. I will not be satisfied until there are no trannies left and the idea of queer theory is expunged from the memory of men forever.
They're doing medical experiments on children that have been brainwashed by purple-haired weirdos in their schools. That's what has people upset, you disingenuous groomer pos.
>Trans people are a sliver of the world's population.
Doesn't matter. There are now additional laws about what I can or cannot say. I am not allowed to call a USB stick a dongle. This shit is invasive.
Transgender cultists and kosher boshers gaslight vulnerable people into thinking that hormones and surgery are the only way for them to be happy, that they were born in the "wrong body" and that the way to start living as their "true selves" is through experimental surgery. The gender identity lie makes it easy for them to convince anyone with even a single atypical interest that they were really "meant to be" the opposite sex. The guaranteed state mandated acceptance and constant positive reinforcement from the media and their fellow grooming victims helps sell the con, too. But in reality there's no genuine appeal. HRT is ugly serum that makes you fat and ruins your skin, it doesn't "feminize". The "bottom surgery" is simply genital mutilation. It can't give you a real vegana. They absolutely do not need surgery or hormones to start loving the way they were born. Boys don't need to cease being male to feel pretty. Girls don't need to cease being female to feel athletic. The gender identity construct is inherently limiting. It tells people they need to change themselves to express any feelings they have that don't fall in line with the socially accepted parodies that our media considers "masculine" and "feminine". It's sad that people get tricked into hating and destroying themselves like this just to appease sexist stereotypes, even moreso that a lot of them are kids. If we had positive femboy and tomboy rolemodels rather than these transgender groomers telling everyone that self esteem is achieved through hormones and surgery, I think you'd see a lot more happy people who accept that they don't fit into gender stereotypes and a lot less miserable mutilation victims who insist on being called something they're not. The world becomes a better place when we celebrate tough girls and sensitive boys who break the mold while invalidating this meaningless and dangerous fad.
The entire notion of "transgender" is inherently bigoted, it's rooted in homophobia and sexism. There is no such thing as a man who expresses himself "as a woman". A man who wears makeup is expressing himself in one of the many ways that men can, and by insisting that he's a woman, or even by allowing him to insist that he's a woman, you're actively reducing the number of ways men are allowed to express themselves. You're saying "no, men aren't allowed to be beautiful or wear makeup. they have to become women if they want to do that". You're saying "no, girls aren't allowed to cut their hair short or play sports. they have to become men if they want to do that". Enforced conformity is all it is. It's no different from an oppressive traditionalist purity spiral. If you actually cared about these people you would want them to love and accept their bodies and their actual, true selves. They aren't transgender. Nobody is. There's no such thing as "transgender". They're just afraid of society bludgeoning them to force them to get back in line. So instead of changing their behavior to be more socially acceptable for men, they think they can change their bodies to be more socially acceptable for their behavior. Do you not see how that's the same problem either way? People need to stand up and say "men can wear makeup and women can have hairy legs and it's not taboo". They should never, EVER give in to the society's bigoted demands by changing their bodies to look more like the opposite sex, which never works by the way and always results in monstrosities. If you don't see why actual LGB people are against transgender ideology you're either a bad faith bigot or you have zero empathy.
This isn't a "conservative vs progressive" issue. Trannies kill actual LGB people and a lot of normal children get mutilated as collateral damage. No matter where you are on the political spectrum you need to be against trannies.
Real gays have known it longer than anybody. Actually being gay makes it so much more obvious how full of shit these freaks are. If I can be comfortable as a prettyboy with long hair then they can too. They have no excuse.
you realise the balding basedjak who created the show believes a zombie israelite came back to life 2000 years ago and that a magic supernatural force controls all of reality? the host trying to seem all smug and rational is far more deranged and detached from reality than any of the people he interviewed- people who just want to be left alone to do what they want with their own bodies. he’s literally a balding basedjak with a chi ro tattoo, he’s the quintessential christcuck
oh how weak have fallen and become even more gay and lame
Why do you think this shitty strawman makes you look like anything other than a cultist? There are several essay sized posts in this thread by people who have explained to you that your ideology is just sexist stereotypes gone rampant. You're just a bigot if you support transgender ideology.
>The people who push gender ideolgy didn't use the scientific method at all. You're ignoring reality because it upsets you. And you ran away from an argument with an actual gay person in this thread who proved you wrong.
Please see: [...]. It's just that you're encouraging mental illness. If there was a sudden representation of schizophrenic people in television shows and movies and it is given a lens of "normal" or "their truth," then we would inevitably see a large influx of people either acting like they're schizophrenic or identifying as schizophrenic, as it is seen as trendy.
. Scientific method cannot be used if it is nearly impossible to research gender dysphoria as a mental illness.
>169145458 >I've addressed this here: >169144499. Scientific method cannot be used if it is nearly impossible to research gender dysphoria as a mental illness.
shlomo would love staying at home to save on actually having to pay for anything lmao. Grown men who still live with their parents are absolutely a drain on their family.
People used to say the same thing about gay people. How hard is it to just accept that its abnormal, it's pretty weird, but it's something no amount of therapy will fix and we should just let them live their lives? >inb4 some /misc/schizo says trannies are literally going door to door en masse and cutting little boys' wieners off
Stop using my sexuality as a defense for your bigotry, please. Transgender ideology hurts people by telling them they need to obey society's stereotypes. You are limiting us. You are telling people they can't live their lives. Your ideology is built from the ground up to limit people and restrict their behavior.
I am more important than every troony and I reserve the right to talk down to and shame every troony I come across. I'm also going to speak for every gay person and say that we all hate trannies. I get to do this because I'm objectively right and what I'm saying comes from a place of absolute authority on the subject of trannies. I know first hand, better than ANYBODY that trannies are religious death cultists who groom and rape kids.
>words words words
Nice larp btw. Now be a good little schizo and go back to your containment board.
2 years ago
Anonymous
Four sentences is not "words words words" you seething troony. Keep getting blown the frick out by actual gay people who can see your conversion therapy cult for what it is.
2 years ago
Anonymous
Meds and containment board. Now.
2 years ago
Anonymous
have you taken your meds? mine won't work unless you take yours too
2 years ago
Anonymous
typical shitlib. attack any minority who goes against your dogma.
2 years ago
Anonymous
Please see:
Please see: [...]. It's just that you're encouraging mental illness. If there was a sudden representation of schizophrenic people in television shows and movies and it is given a lens of "normal" or "their truth," then we would inevitably see a large influx of people either acting like they're schizophrenic or identifying as schizophrenic, as it is seen as trendy.
. You've been refusing to address it the entire time.
2 years ago
Anonymous
>words words words
You can try to copy board language all you want, you still dont fit in. Remember, you will never pass in real life or in here.
false equivalency. gay people said they want to be respected and they don't have a choice in who they like. Many of the Trans people are not saying they want to be treated as a women, they are saying THEY ARE a women. That is a huge difference. I think lots of people were on board saying they would respect that someone has a very strong desire to depart from the biologically link between how you feel and your chromosomes. But it's a lot different to ask people to admit the absolutely untrue. People that think they ARE a women when they are a man are operating on the same level as an anorexic. They need help.
Exactly, there's a difference between "Ok, I'll call you Claire". And Claire then getting to stomp the competition in the 500 Freestyle. Or getting to call himself a lesbian and try to force his way into their dating pool.
Also worth noting that the ideology that tricked him into wanting to be called Claire in the first place is inherently harmful, and that he would be comfortable being called Ted if that ideology didn't exist and wasn't being pushed onto people. It's literally no different from gaslighting a young black person into thinking they were "born wrong" for being black and that they need to bleach their skin to "affirm their racial identity as white because they behave white". That kind of ideology shouldn't be allowed to exist. Period.
The very fact that this discussion is being held is a disgrace. These cenobites should be stopped by any means necessary, then we can hold debates on what is a woman.
gays have known longer than anyone else how annoying FTM trannies are but it's not being made into a big issue because... well, FTM trannies are women, nonnearly as assertive, they can't just coerce acceptance in same way the autogynephilic frankensteins can.
>went to Africa >ask stupid questions >make Black folk living in a hut laughing their ass off
the absolute state of troony mentality. even Black person with flies flying all over their mouth are laughing
>B-BUT PEOPLE WHO LIVED IN MUD HUTS 20274929 YEARS AGO SAW REALITY LIKE THIS! THAT MEANS YOU HAVE TO!!! >IT DOESNT MATTER THAT PUBERTY IS A NON CONSENSUAL FORCED CHANGE!!!! ITS NATURE SO YOU JUST HAVE TO ACCEPT IT BECAUSE I WAS TOO SCARED AND PASSIVE NOT TO!!! YOU DONT GET TO LIVE YOUR AUTHENTIC LIFE BECAUSE IT MAKES *ME* UNCOMFORTABLE >YOU WILL NOT FRICK CUTE TRANNIES IN THE ASS >YOU WILL NOT HAVE A FEMBOY SUCK YOUR wiener >YOU WILL BE A MISERABLE RACIST INCEL
Unironically having kids is evil because of that and the christisraelite free will argument is bogus because god doesn’t ask people if they want to exist in this miserable shitheap planet before forcing them to suffer and die in it. And then torture you forever if you fail the “test”. Why are you surprised I don’t hate trans people as much as religious freaks
>WIAM thread
>t.ranny
No matter on which side of this issue you are, you gotta admit that there were some fricking insane people on this documentary. It is completely incomprehensible to me how they are allowed to be in those positions.
Anyone have a stream that isn't the megashare link?
The trains video got taken down:
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1pQrlmMgeO6iVHSZGKwubnqR-PO-ZaDWH/view
https://odysee.com/@Marsey:8/whatisawoman:5
i wonder if the uploader is ironically trying to ackpill people?
Nah think it's really a seething troony
What the frick was her problem?
So hopped up on xanax and opiates that she was barely coherent. It's a miracle she can string a sentence together, frankly.
She was definitely on something.
pure evil manifest
>the puberty blockers you give to children and say are fine to take and won't stop you going through puberty at a later date if you change your mind are the same drugs used to permanently chemically castrate people?
>yes but dont call them that, it sounds bad
if anyone watched that and still supports this shit, congratulations you are an evil piece of shit just like this c**t
Her hair is blue
HER HAIR
IS BLUE
I fricking hated this witch
>No matter on which side of this issue you are
Unless you're a pro transexual leftist in which case this is a story about a bigot bullying innocent trans rights activists who definitely aren't brainwashing and then chemically castrating children, lying about it at all and trying to silence any information about it.
Because they're quasi cultists trying to lead a literal revolution based on their own indoctrination and emotional distress. I mean like a literal revolution, they're usually radically left wing.
You don't know much about transexuality anon
Kek, enlighten us then.
There's actually no such thing as transgender. That ideology is a recent invention and has been proven illegitimate. It's a work of fiction, no different from claiming to be "trans species" or "trans racial". In a healthy world we would be celebrating tomboys and feminine men for their differences, not gaslighting them into destroying their bodies. The world becomes a more liberated place when we disregard stereotypes about how men and women are "supposed to act and dress" and simply accept people as they are. As they ACTUALLY are, as feminine men and masculine women, not as made up identities invented by homophobic conversion therapists who actually want to kill LGB people.
>There is no such thing... because there just isnt!
Binary roles are not even universal, and they don't always conform to the kind of genitals you have. It's been observed outside christian societies that a person with penis chooses to live the roles of a woman, and it's not considered bad. The stigma is cultural and comes from christian squizos in the case of western societies.
Are you illiterate? Did you even read his post?
and nobody needs to
When people try to expose these buttons they just use force to stay in power.
For example look at how this gets censored, even on Cinemaphile.
>No matter on which side of this issue you are
This binary thinking is literally why the global elite can twist and turn the plebs by distracting them with inconsequential non-issues like trans.
Inflation is ass fricking the middle class. Housing is a catastrophe. Education is more indoctrination than learning and finally the environment gets fricked more and more every year while we watch, smile and say "we need to be more inclusive to 0.01% of the population".
Wake up.
Here's how that happens.
>"Wow, inflation sure is ass-fricking the middle-class"
>No it isn't. There's no inflation. Also inflation's good for the middle-class. Also it's Trump's fault. Fricking alt-righter. Why do you hate women, gays, and trans so much?
>"What?"
>Fricking subhuman nazi troony-hater, I'm calling your place of work and your bank and your service providers to get you cancelled.
Literally.
And you can do this with anything, when you control the public conversation. E.g., you're a politician under investigation for corruption, embezzling hundreds of thousands of dollars of public funds. BLM appears. You very loudly and conspicuously align yourself with BLM. You make literally everything that happens to you about BLM. They're only investigating you because they hate blacks. This is racism. Everyone needs to vote for you to keep you in office still. They need to vote against anyone who opposes you.
What the FRICK does BLM or racism or whatever have to do with you fricking stealing public funds?
Nothing.
But it doesn't matter. When you control the conversation, you can connect whatever dots you like. All you have to do is make some spurious connection, and then keep repeating it. Everyone who disagrees with you is [evil].
That's how everyone ends up talking about trannies.
Good post.
Man I remember when gays were a little bit based and actually sided with "those mean heckin racists on Cinemaphile" to shit on EA for essentially using them to deflect criticism.
I really dont know how alot of the LGBT whatever crowd dont realize just how much theyre being exploited and used as bargaining chips and shields for criticism.
>YOU DONT LIKE THING
>FRICKING HOMOPHOBIC NAZI ALT RIGHTER JOE ROGAN TRUMPIST COVIDIOT NRA GUN NUT WHACKO
>YOU JUST DONT LIKE IT CAUSE IT HAD GAY PEOPLE FOR 0.25 MILLISECONDS
Fair call. The 'social sciences professor' should be out tricking for wiener, not telling anyone what is right or wrong, or even true but apparently he doesn't do that.
>we need to trust the science
>oh the science is heckin transphobic.
you realise the balding basedjak who created the show believes a zombie israelite came back to life 2000 years ago and that a magic supernatural force controls all of reality? the host trying to seem all smug and rational is far more deranged and detached from reality than any of the people he interviewed- people who just want to be left alone to do what they want with their own bodies. he’s literally a balding basedjak with a chi ro tattoo, he’s the quintessential christcuck
>being an atheist
No wonder you have no sense of morality and want to mutilate kids.
Its always so funny when trannies try to potray christians as bad when they themselves are the worst kind of religious zealots.
Both of them sexually molest kids so there is no right side here.
Only one of them has it as their central tenet.
https://odysee.com/@Marsey:8/whatisawoman:5
Again, no right side here.
Why couldn't something exist outside of the material world? We are sentient. We love and feel. Why do you think that's a product of material, non emotional, things. By that logic computers will be able to feel pain and love (they won't, they can only be told to exibit the signs of it).
This but unironically. Some sex addict who gets off to wearing a wig is at least based on reality.
Your religion worships a pedophile who mutilated and raped kids, and his theory failed when those kids killed themselves. Gender ideology is a religion and you are a zealot.
religion is belief in god or gods. I don’t believe in gods. I don’t believe in any fundamental truth at all. i’m a nietzschean more than anything and I see no reason people can’t manipulate reality in any way they want. someone wearing a wig and cutting their penis off isn’t hurting anyone unless you appeal to made you traditions and moral shit- none of which exists or has basis in empirical reality. i am the exact opposite of a religious person, i’m just not a bigoted c**t who tries to pick and choose what is and isn’t okay to do to yourself by your own decisions.
Your beliefs are dogmatic. They're religious, and they hurt people. Gender ideology is about forcing people to live according to traditional stereotypes and roles. Anyone claiming it's about freedom or letting people do what they want fundamentally doesn't understand the ideology or who invented it. You cannot liberate people by piling more expectations, more labels and more categories on top of them. They didn't like the gender roles society's stigmas forced upon them so they're fleeing to the other set of sexist gender roles instead. It's equally harmful either way. Just do away with gender stereotypes entirely and you have a better, more liberated world. That means no gender identity garbage. No transgender ideology. Just ordinary girls who play rugby and boys who like having long hair, or knitting, cooking, whatever. Neither one ever being made to feel like they were "born wrong" for liking things that aren't stereotypical for them. That's the correct path through this mess. Not telling people they need to mutilate their bodies in an attempt to "fit in" with the opposite sex's stereotypes because they don't fit their own.
>just one strawman after another
tell me where I said these things. refer to the post you just replied. people should be able to do what they want. you are the religious zealot appealing to made up culturally ingrained morals about what’s acceptable
this entire deranged situation is the direct result of secularism and atheism btw so you’re both wrong
It's LITERALLY your ideology dude. That's literally what you believe in, it's in every textbook and every phamplet about gender. "Boys act this way, girls act that way". That's SEXISM, idiot. You are a SEXIST and a BIGOT. You are not a good person and you aren't letting people "be free". You are LIMITING US.
>"Boys act this way, girls act that way". That's SEXISM, idiot.
That's science baby. Literal science with babies. Boys act one way and girls another.
Even if you can find a consistent pattern that's no reason to force boys to become girls just because they defy your pattern. That's why troony shit is evil no matter which political views you hold. That is my point. Let people be themselves, stop enforcing conformity.
Kathleen Stock has said some interesting things on total gender abolition. She essentially argues that due to our sexed bodies, a good portion of people will inevitably fall into stereotypes. Men are likely always going to take on most manual labour, due to being the stronger sex, at least until exoskeletons arrive. Women are likely always going to take on a good portion of caregiver roles, partly due to maternal instinct, partly due to lingering suspicion over men trying to take on certain roles.
But that doesn't mean we shouldn't try to reduce gender as much as possible and it doesn't mean we should punish people who step outside those stereotypes
>But that doesn't mean we shouldn't try to reduce gender as much as possible
By killing all women and reproducing via artificial wombs.
Exactly. Just let the differences between people occur naturally. Some boys will prefer dolls, some girls will prefer sports. They're not wrong for going against the grain, but normies aren't wrong for going with the grain by liking stereotypical things either. Just let it be and it's fine. It's only a problem when you say "MY BOY HAS TO BE A FOOTBALL FAN OR HE'S JUST A GIRLY WIMP" or "MY BOY LIKES PLAYING WITH DOLLS THAT MEANS HE'S A GIRL ON THE INSIDE". Both are equally insane and both rely on the absolute religious worship of stereotypes.
but the leftist mindset isn't even logical at the first hurdle (i'm sure you realize). To say that a tendency towards dolls is an indicator of being a women, while at the same time totally rejecting the actual biological basis for human's without Y chromosomes to prefer dolls vs combat sports makes no sense. "that person likes dolls" should just be a statement of fact with no connotation if they took their own cult seriously. It's clear they are just the weakest minded of all humans, ready to sacrifice their own children to a cult in the same way Aztec people did without any remorse.
Agreed completely. If their beliefs were in any way sincere or logical they would be doing the opposite of what they are now. They would be breaking down limitations rather than building them up.
>dyke feminist professor
Opinion discarded. Feminist use this conciliatory language to fool men into false sense of security and then they stab them in the back. They cry about gender roles and then use affirmative action to steal jobs and university places from men on the basis of gender.
Stop blaming your women for things that israelites are doing to you. Dumb golem.
I am not blaming MY women. Women here are great, they hate feminism. Its YOUR women who try to brainwash them with this gender abolition nonsense.
And men move out of their mother's house. You didn't.
Not only is everything you said a lie, but it's intensely bigoted and homophobic. I'm a gay man with many "feminine" qualities. I'm comfortable with them. That doesn't make me a woman, that doesn't mean I want to be a woman, that doesn't make me transgender. You are taking the possibility for me to simply be comfortable with myself as a feminine man off of the table. And you're doing the same to masculine women as well. You are a homophobic bigot and everything you believe in actively kills and maims people like me. Gender ideology is conversion therapy.
troony infighting lmfao
That's not infighting. LGB people have always hated trannies and we always will, no matter what your JP Morgan float says.
Let me guess, you currently live in an urban area and have for the better part of your life?
No, I live in the country and everyone in my community is conservative, including me. Why are you taking issue with an objectively true post that shits on trannies?
Please see:
. It's just that you're encouraging mental illness. If there was a sudden representation of schizophrenic people in television shows and movies and it is given a lens of "normal" or "their truth," then we would inevitably see a large influx of people either acting like they're schizophrenic or identifying as schizophrenic, as it is seen as trendy.
Total bullshit. Your ideology actively harms me and I'm a gay crossdresser. The thing you called "gender" is actually called a stereotype. They're not identities and they aren't noble. There's nothing good about them. They're actually offensive simple minded caricatures that hurt people. There is no such thing as gender. Gender ideology is conversion therapy. You're just trying to codify and enforce sets of behavior as "masculine" and "feminine" so you can force people to obey them. Feminine men are allowed to exist. They aren't women. And masculine women are not men. Why are you trying to elevate and reinforce something that only exists to hurt people? Stereotypes are not meant to be worshiped. In reality all we have is biological sex, and either sex can act and dress any way they please. That's what a free world looks like. A free world has no place for your homophobic and sexist "gender" garbage.
>I'm a gay crossdresser.
The absolute state of nu-/tv/.
I remember when feetposting was where it was at. Now it's this weird troony fixation.
Don't even reply if you don't know what my image is btw. It means you're a gay newbie.
>I'm a gay crossdresser
Then why the frick are you on Cinemaphile you fricking homosexual? Do you know who we are?
Cinemaphile is gay crossdresser central. do you know where YOU are?
This. We're here to fap to traps and chew bubblegum, and we never had any bubblegum to begin with
We’re the dissident-right you fricking homosexual. We don’t accept your lifestyle, never have and never will. You are a troony.
You're a troony false flagging. You always do this when a real gay person speaks out against you. Literally every time.
You will never be a woman.
He's not trying to be
Post bussy
>I don’t believe in gods. I don’t believe in any fundamental truth at all.
But here you are preaching "tolerance" for the sake of "Man", and railing against the great evil of "bigotry". Just because your religious ideas are mainstream doesnt mean they have any validity. You are getting your panties in a twist because your sacred ideas cannot stand up to scrutiny and yet you try to paint yourself as some sort of enlightened individualist. Stop making fool of yourself.
do you have a single argument that isn’t just putting words in peoples mouth? why are /misc/tards so schizophrenic? literally all i’m saying is let people do what they want and you invent some insane cope or ulterior motive for me saying that and insist i’m religious.
You aren't letting people do what they want. You are the one restricting people's behavior. That's what gender ideology is. It's a codified set of stereotypes for behavior assigned to men and women. That's not a noble thing, dude.
Please address this:
.
let me do what i want, to call you a man
>noooo, only trannies are alowed to do what they want!
Okay, I will dumb it down to your level. Creationism is wrong and evolution is correct. Would you complain if people taught creationism in schools, policy was made using Young Earth Creationism and you were censored for speaking about evolution? Its just people doing what they want after all.
but no scientist agrees with the old binary man woman thing anymore and it’s a language game that you’ve imposed onto a reality that isn’t as clear cut as you want it to be.
>no scientist agrees with the old binary man woman thing
Kek, you claim to not be religious yet here you go with clericalism. If you understant the argument the scientists present then explain it in your own words. If not then stop with your appeals to experts.
>but no scientist agrees with the old binary man woman thing
Frick off they don't, sex in humans is binary. Anyone saying anything else is doing so as a propagandist, not a scientist.
>b-but what about DSDs
All either male or female.
>I, THE MIDWIT Cinemaphile INCEL, KNOW BETTER THAN THE SCIENTISTS!!! SCIENCE THAT CHALLANGES MY BELEIFS IS PROPAGANDA
Science is a method, not a doctrine. You're lower than a midwit if you can't understand that.
>science isn’t real
thanks for nothing
>if something isnt eternal doctrine its not real
We are reaching new heights of religious dogmatism here.
why do we employ scientific method in the first place
To test our assumptions. Science is never "done". You should always be testing your assumptions. Even when those assumptions were long held to be true.
To determine whether conclusions of experiment accord with hypothesis.
a method which the most current understanding of you go against because the implications upset you
>the most current understanding
So explain it then. You claim to have your views based on science, so provide scientific explanation. If you cant do that then you have nothing.
gender is not an essential element of reality and is the result of cultural indoctrination and has nothing to do with science. the physical reality of biology has no clear cut boundaries
So changing people's bodies to match their "gender" is inherently unethical according to your own theory. There's no reason a biological man can't be pretty and there's no reason a biological woman can't be hairy and tough. Even allowing "transitioning" is inherently harmful because it reinfroces sexist stereotypes. What you're doing is in the same vein as gaslighting a flat chested 14 year old girl into getting tit implants because she feels pressured by society into having big breasts. Don't change her body. Change society.
>gender is not an essential element of reality
Okay.
>the physical reality of biology has no clear cut boundaries
This is not true. Sexes in oogamous species are clearly seperate.
>gender is not an essential element of reality and is the result of cultural indoctrination
I would 100% disagree with this statement. It's very obvious that every society in human history developed the same basic way out of necessity, men weren't forced to be strong and women weren't forced to be weak.
>the physical reality of biology has no clear cut boundaries
Of course it does, chromosomes. If you've got a Y, you're a guy.
The people who push gender ideolgy didn't use the scientific method at all. You're ignoring reality because it upsets you. And you ran away from an argument with an actual gay person in this thread who proved you wrong.
Have you ever wondered why is it that your opinions allign perfectly with the contemporary ones? You are natural cattle, you would be Nazi in WW2 Germany, Communist in Cold War Russia and pious Christian in Middle Ages.
/misc/ is just the political board, but we ALL share the same ideology. Remember where you are, troony.
>let people do what they want
Frick you
what is a woman?
A member of the class of human beings born with a vegana.
Muslims are unironically completely correct classifying atheists as mentally ill. You get given an inch and people are cutting children’s wieners off.
Trips of holy truth. Inshallah
You're actually moronic if you think any of this stuff happened naturally. Peel back the curtain even a little and it's obvious this is being done on purpose, maliciously, with hundreds of trillions of dollars poured into propaganda and bribes and astroturfing campaigns. Everything you rightfully hate about the modern world is being done to you by powerful, evil people. None of it happened by accident and none of would have happened naturally.
Doesn’t discount anything i’ve said. Only secular society could be susceptible to this sort of thing because their morals are so interchangeable and transient. I’m not surprised homosexual propagandising is growing in effectiveness every day.
that's like saying how are all those insane people in positions of power in a church. it's literally just another religion. They do not need any more of a definition of a woman than a religious zealot needs to be able to sort out contradictions in doctrine.
It's wild that they're so wrapped up in double think that they can't even define a word anymore.
So? What is a woman, then?
Expired dicky
An adult female.
A woman is you, a woman is me
>a woman is her
>a woman ain't he
RYM is up to the gils on troonys and furries.
Y'all obsessed with transfolk. 24/7 rent free in your heads. You barely see them outside.
How many 16 year old kids need to be given vaginoplasties ,and chemically castrating drugs
at much younger ages, before people can think it is insane?
>24/7 troony media saturation
>social media grooming kids to become trannies
>mandatory child transitioning
>misgendering is a criminal offence
>raping children
they need to be stopped
you only think the world is this way because you live on /misc/ btw
It’s literally a criminal offense in canada to intentionally misgender someone. Did you miss the bit about the dad going to jail for trying to stop these lunatics from trooning his daughter?
No, because I dont live in Canada and I dont obsessively follow the latest troony news like you. Once again, you have a massively warped view of the way the world is because you live on /misc/ and actively seek this shit out 24/7.
Its literally in the movie this thread is about. There is an interview with the guy. What are you even doing here if havent watched it?
I literally didnt watch it because I'm literally not a troony obsessed /misc/tard and I literally dont spend every waking moment seeking this shit out like you do. I'm in this thread to laugh at you and your deranged schizo fixation with trannies.
I pretty much only see or hear about trannies on various Cinemaphile boards when people spam pictures of them.
Evrywhere else you get banned for talking about them
Im rangebanned for discussing them here. No image posting either.
i guess you could say trannies got the drip
great posts
You'll never be a woman.
And yet you have he/him and she/her bios in every other leftist's Twitter even though they are cis. It seems that you are the ones who are obsessed and we are just reacting to your obsession.
I like it when girls put pronouns in their profiles even if they're cis and straight because it's an instant red flag to not try to get with them. Modern day human aposematism
My young cousin is transitioning into a man
I saw a pic of us together from years ago having fun at a carnival and it made me tear up
why'd you rape her?
she was hot what was i supposed to do
Because most of them are filthy ghouls who live online.
Your average Cinemaphile poster can empathise with that, but don't quite have the same level of mental illness to lop their wiener off in persuit of a sexual fetish.
>deliberately try to obliterate societal norms going back thousands of years and denying millions of years of biology
>"hey maybe we shouldn't-"
>"UGH WHY DO YOU EVEN CARE? LIKE SWEETIE YOU'RE SO OBSESSED"
If I was trans I wouldn't go outside either
They see them inside 24/7
It's comedy gold 24/7
Jazz has such a dark existance, if it wasn't for his profound wealth and social support structure he'd fall into abyss and suicide would be near.
Frick off homosexual. This is Cinemaphile. We ALL hate trannies. Cinemaphile is the global center of the anti-transgender movement. It’s the only place online that actively promotes Christian family values. We are the last holdouts against the antichrist. It doesn’t matter if the title of the board is “Television & Film”, our entire purpose on Cinemaphile is to be a part of the movement and defend Christian values.
You will never be a woman.
Underrated bait
Underrated based
>unironically circling back to project chanology 'we are legion!' shit
Nah, it's cringe.
anything that compels someone like you to compulsively reply because it makes you that upset is what I call based
>You barely see them outside.
I can spot a man in a dress from a mile away
>they're programmed to blah blah
maybe it's utter shit
Annoys me how ridiculously effeminate Walsh looks with that beard.
He looks leagues better with it than without it.
lmao what is wrong with americans and western europeans? why are their nations so cucked and gay compared to the rest of the world? everytime i go on twitter in WE and USA spaces i see people complaining about waking up in the morning, hating mondays, and seeing s.oy enfused homies on there all the time. and the cherry on top is that they worship Black folk and trannies so much and all of their men want to BECOME women. so sad
>what is wrong with americans and western europeans
our countries are controlled by israelites who hate us
When you live in advanced and developed countries, you have too much free time, which leads to boredom.
God took the israelites inheritance away and gave it to the Greeks (Europeans). We are the Christian Sons of God. Satan and his demons, working through the israelites seeks to destroy us.
Liberalism (economic and social)
This is like if .01% of people started LARPing as knights or diaperfurs and everyone had to play along or get fired. Womanhood isn't a choice or an identity, it's biology.
>LARPing as knights
I would unironically be 100% behind a trans-knighthood movement if it meant I could walk down the street in full armour with a sword and no one could say shit
>name: Sir John, Knight of the realm of Dade County FL
>pronouns: m'lord /lord
>sir I need you to modify your business to allow me to hitch my horse outside, this is knightaphobic behaviour and I shan't stand here and take it
It's fricked man. I actually know one ftm person and they are not some lunatic activist.
That's never been the case. Not everyone assumes an identity just because they have peepee or vegana. What are you gonna do then? Scream that is LE BAD because it doesn't concur with what the opinions in the bible say about sexuality?
Your biological sex is either female or male, that will always be a reality. But beyond that you can express yourself however you want. You can dress however you want. You don't ever need to tell people you're "gender fluid" or "trans" to excuse the fact that you're a man who wants to wear makeup. Just say that you're a man who doesn't mind going against the grain. That's what a free world looks like. That's what our world should look like. Most people won't judge you for shaving your legs and wearing makeup. Some people will even find it attractive. The transgender fad is actually hurting real LGB people. It's telling them they aren't allowed to defy stereotypes. It's telling them that women have to get surgery and take testosterone if they don't want to be "girly". Do you not see how harmful the transgender fad is? How much is victimizes real LGB people? The world you want is within reach and supporting this fad will only take us further away.
kys shitlib pretending to be a centrist
>Produced by Ben Shapiro
Anybody who kept watching after this is a virgin chud
>lol virgin
you weirdos haven't advanced your social shaming tactics in decades. They always ring hollow coming from a disgusting sexless blob like the kind of troon who would waste his days on Cinemaphile trying to defend against such a simple movie as this.
>Non whites are conservative
I guess the immigration isn't all bad.
>they all laugh in African
kek
Uhhh actually I fricked Ben's sister get rek'd troony homosexual frick
based and digits-pilled
that thing would be unusable if her nose was raised too although maybe you could wire in a joystick for flight sims
This just reminds me of pic related.
Okay but seriously though, honest question from a guy who wants to understand: how do you define it now? Woman no longer means “lacking a Y chromosome” clearly. And you’re sexist and leaning into “gender roles” if you associate any feminine traits with womanhood. Being feminine doesn’t make you a woman, apparently, since butch as hell lesbians are women as well as trans women who barely make the effort.
So what the frick is the definition? Does the movie offer any answer? Or is it just a vague “being a woman is a feeling in your gut” conclusion?
blame leftists and the lgbt for making the answer harder to find in the first place
Adult human female
And what’s female? Because again it doesn’t mean physically female anymore
Females are the part of sexually reproductive species which create eggs.
Okay but that’s not the agreed upon definition anymore
it is
idiots will never agree with facts presented to them
It doesn't matter if you agree.
If there were no words or language, females would still exist. It's a biological reality.
this, words and definitions change, the objects the words and definitions describe don't change, if I start calling a chair a hat, it's still a chair and functions as a chair I'm just using a different word for it
>a rose by any other name...
>this, words and definitions change, the objects the words and definitions describe don't change, if I start calling a chair a hat, it's still a chair and functions as a chair I'm just using a different word for it
I think it just needs a little tweaking
Sensible person: a woman is an adult human female.
Progtard: no, a woman is anyone who identifies as one.
Sensible person: while words and their definitions can change, the subject/object of those words and definitions don't change. You may be a chair, and identify as a hat. You calling yourself a hat does not mean you actually fit on anyone's head or are comfortable to wear. You're something to sit on and muffle farts with. Likewise, you may identify as a woman but you will never appear to be one nor qualify as one in any official or legally relevant situation. You are denying the simple reality of what I see before me.
hey, i made a post with this point some year ago, did you come to this by yourself too?
I think this proves an idea of mine too.
that the new genderideology MUST be spread from person to person.
The cant individually look at the world and come to the same conclusion
We can, because we base our belief on things we can see, therefore we dont have to meet to think the same thing.
if this is true, the disapearance of the gender ideology is inevitable
The older I get the more I realize everything is bullshit. People layer abstraction on top of abstraction until they don't remember the reality the abstraction applies to.
When you try to do a reality check the abstraction-brained NPCs get aggro. They don't like being reminded of the truth.
Your definition is not agreed upon either. In fact, yours has never fully been agreed upon.
female has always meant female and still does
that's why they refuse to answer with that definition
female is the one that is born with a vegana
>Because again it doesn’t mean physically female anymore
It does actually and any claim to the contrary is a flat out ill informed lie.
Look lads I agree with you, I’m asking what these people would say the new definition is
they won't say anything, they will refuse to answer the question, usually by answering a different question and pretending they answered the one you asked. y'know, like a politician.
They don't have one. That's the whole point of the movie, they are unable to define the word because they have created so many layers of doublethink and gibberish that they are no longer capable of any rational thought.
It's like if you redefine 2+2 to be 5, but don't change anything else about math. 1+3 is still 4, 0+4 is still 4, but 2+2=5.
By the logic of your post, you need to be able to cogently and briefly answer your own question. If they think 2 + 2 = 5, you need to not only correct them with 4, but explain how you got to that answer.
well, first you assume that you exist. then you assume that your senses are accurate. then you assume that beliefs need to be validated by evidence. then you assume that...
>you need to be able to cogently and briefly answer your own question. If they think 2 + 2 = 5, you need to not only correct them with 4, but explain how you got to that answer.
They know 2+2=4. Everybody knows what a woman is, it's an adult female human. The point is not that they don't know, it's that they're willfully choosing to ignore reality. You can't apply logic to these people.
We can mathematically prove that 2 + 2 = 4 and we can biologically define what a female is. Woman is the English term for an adult human female. If woman no longer means this then we just need a new term for adult human female and we’ll use that. There’s a point where it turns from a discussion of science to a discussion of language
Copy pasting
its postmodernism
In architecture postmodernism is taking any iconography from the past and using it there it fits(pic is really ugly tough), the point being, everyone knows about the roman pillar, so nobody is confused about the big honking eyesore in the middle
The same goes for the gender bullshit going on now
anyone can just call themselves a woman, but nobody will define what a woman is because they all bank on everyone still knowing the 90s and before definition of a woman, but without actually saying it out loud
It amazes me that I’m supposed to take these people seriously
For the laymen that buy into this insane bullshit the new definition is a women/female is simply a "feeling". If a biological man wakes up one day and "feels" like a women then he's to classed as a women. The reason I said this is the layman's definition is because the schizo's that also buy into this insanity but have little more intelligence realise the MASSIVE inherent logical/rationale/philosophical/epistemological flaw in this type of thinking. If the parameters that we've classified women with since the dawn of human history are simply made up social constructs and they're meaningless than what exactly is the point of troony men wanting to conform to them? Having a vegana doesn't make you a women, so why then do trannies undergo surgery to create fake ones? And etc etc.. for every other parameter that troony men start conforming to when they LARP as "women" but also at the same time say are social constructs that don't make biological women women and biological men not women.
That's the problem, they don't have one. It's the whole point of the documentary. Their ideology is a house made of paper mache.
Most of them will circle around "a woman is a person who identifies as a woman," stumble around further probing questions, and then denounce you as an instaphobe.
Yes it does. Your chromosomes decide if you are male or female. You can fool people, but you cannot fool nature. Sorry.
Female/woman are the class of human beings born with a vegana.
THERE YOU MORONS I HAVE DEFINED IT
>the sophists' arguments don't make any sense!
woah, radical observation, kemosabe
he doesn't really answer the question himself. closest we get is the scientific definitions from the doctor. as much as we all hate trannies this documentary wasn't particularly effective.
>Okay but seriously though, honest question from a guy who wants to understand: how do you define it now?
In the human sexual binary, woman is the category lesser than a man. They are generally and on average, smaller, slimmer and physically weaker while typically having a nurturing or meek temperament. They are second class citizens and beneath men in competitions, physical challenges and under pressure.
If you ask and they can't answer, you plop down a loaded, shitty answer and make them correct it.
A woman is a human adult that(when not deformed or socially maladjusted) is pursued by males for pairing, companionship and mating. In contrast, men compete for a woman's attention and approval for the opportunity to mate and a chance at the reproductive act.
Trannies will never have men(or lesbians) compete for their attention and approval, and therefore will never be women.
>pairing
Peak autism.
A miserable pile of secrets! But enough talk, have at you!
a woman is a human with XX chromosome
Checked.
A woman is an adult girl and girls have XX chromosomes.
A woman is a vessel. They are the sacred ark of the holy union. If you marry a trad girl and have a decent family life with her, your offspring will adjust well to the world and their surroundings, because you as men will provide and a woman will nurture. This is an eternal dance of nature. Not just humans but the universe.
Most of this fricked up people, trannies, and other insane bastards will never understand that because they are not raised and bred as human beings. They are the product of fricking. Marriage union and fricking are two completely different things. One is born out of love, the other out of lust. So, fellow anons/femanons, you must find a decent man or woman who understands their role in life.
99.999% of them have a uterus and have gone through puberty.
That is all.
>Woman no longer means “lacking a Y chromosome” clearly
Definition is still the same. Most of them say they're trans women. They themselves make that distinction.
This is not an exploration of Plato's theory of the Forms, it's a gotcha question meant to pwn the libs.
If you think trannies are a big political issue or you follow political grifters of any nature you should honestly kys.
>trans women
No such thing. They are not women in any shape or form. Just mutilated mentally ill men. And trannies wouldnt be an issue if they werent pushed everywhere by progressives. So stop being disingenuous homosexual.
>if it isn't a big political issue, you should ignore it
No.
>Most of them say they're trans women.
A trans woman, by literal definition, is a woman that is trans. That is, a woman who was born as a woman, and has decided to alter her body to look masculine.
What you think a "trans woman" is, doesn't exist. The terms are mutually exclusive.
No, you are confused. FtM trannies call themselves trans men and MtF trannies call themselves trans women.
>Woman no longer means “lacking a Y chromosome” clearly
It's an adult human that has XX chromosomes
>But muh intersex!
How many chromosomes does the human species have? Should we say "we don't know" because there are some rare genetic mutation exceptions like with handicaps or is it 46?
> a guy who wants to understand
Cinemaphile is not a place for learning. American Psychological Association has some info about it, gender disphoria etc.
https://www.apa.org/topics/lgbtq/transgender
Chuds are not particularly smart about sexuality or women in that regard (wonder why),
Yikes post.
but every source people are supposed to rely on are turning against the people, so only unironically based platforms like Cinemaphile and satire websites are all that's left.
Can you address this:
?
>Woman no longer means “lacking a Y chromosome” clearly
dude youre already moronic. find the nearest bridge
He doesn't answer it either. He ends the movie by stupidly reading the dictionary definition, and through the character of his wife so he can add his own gay little gender stereotype affirming scenario.
This is what passes for documentary on Cinemaphile.
You're the one who wants to affirm gender stereotypes. That's what troonyism is. The entire thing is about forcing people to live according to stereotypes. Do you not even understand your own belief system?
>everything that agrees with me is based
>everyone who hates must be a troony
Obsessed and babby brained. Have you even ever met a troony? Are there trannies in the room right now?
do you think that replies like this work? you're just gaslighting. it's obvious you're an offended troony.
I thought this documentary was kinda shitty. While it does expose these psychos, all but the most stupid people he interviewed knew pretty quickly that he was a hostile and therefore they went on the defensive. He should have asked questions for longer and let them talk themselves deeper into the hole - the fact that so many people figured out he had a side showed what a shitty interviewer he was. Even from the first scene where he says "the only emotional support my boy needs is a bb gun" is pretty low IQ, so you know he wasn't the right guy to investigate this topic anyways
>he was a hostile and therefore they went on the defensive.
he was calm, never raised his voice and asked fairly simple questions
they went on the defensive because he was questioning their native, it doesn't matter how you approach them or how nicely you ask they will always get defensive because you can't honestly defend any of their viewpoints
if when you explain your beliefs without the listener already agreeing
It's means your beliefs are insane, king's new clothes
I watched 20 or so minutes and turned it off. Only good part was the Star Wars store owner. The majority of it was just confirming our already held opinions by interviewing the craziest people they could find.
I left it on in the background and it didn't get any better after you turned it off. The poorly acted ending where his wife, in the kitchen cooking, asks him to open a jar was laughable. Missed opportunity really.
He didn't raise his voice, but anyone with an IQ over room temperature figured out he was a hostile fairly quickly by his questioning. He could have covered the same ground with people just by rephrasing the questions. I mean when he went to interview the politician and he jumps right into bathrooms that was just a dumb interviewing mistake that shows he already had an opinion.
Oh these people are obviously insane, no arguments there. I just meant the documentary wasn't very effective because he wasn't able to get the real meat out of his subjects.
> the documentary wasn't very effective because he wasn't able to get the real meat out of his subjects.
Elaborate. What do you think there was to get that he didn't?
He very successfully exposed them as dishonest. There's not anything else to get from dishonest people.
A good interviewer would go along with the person’s beliefs and not really argue with them. You can argue against the person later on when commenting on the interview where you let them reveal the full crazy. There was a documentary series called Brainwash(hrjemvask or something originally) that did this extremely well.
Haven’t seen the movie, but I’m guessing Walsh tried challenging the people in order to get funny moments of people storming out rather than explain stuff like how many of them believe sexuality can be divorced from sex.
did you even watch the documentary? he let them go on for quite a while about their beliefs without challenging, only hitting back after they've completely exposed themselves, which is why he's able to expose their hypocrisy and circular logic so well
are you trolling?
>Haven’t seen the movie, but I’m guessing Walsh tried ...
no he didn't but better listen while he tells you what happened in the thing you watched and he didnt
i don't entirely agree, but i do think he sometimes pushed back too early
It's not that at all. He doesn't need to do any of those things. The woman who is a dean at Brown Medical college didn't try to shut down the interview until he asked about the chemical castration drug, Lupron, that she prescribes to children. The congressman didn't shut it down until he asked about how they accommodate women who feel uncomfortable being around biological males in restrooms and the gender studies professor didn't really get huffy until Walsh used the word 'Truth', fr.
It was pretty clear he meant to torpedo the interview with the senator. Dude is a hypocrite scumbag.
Seems like a waste. He should have Theroux'd these interviews and let these people talk themselves in deeper. Instead this documentary is just a gotcha one, where it could have been a really effective thing at actually helping these kids being abused
You keep saying this but haven't explained how so.
Basically he jumped into the gotcha questions too soon and got his interviewers to shut down. He made it too obvious too early that he had a strong opinion, and the documentary would have been better had he approached it as having no opinion and let the viewers decide.
You're just repeating yourself.
What else was there to get? You're claiming he could have gotten something more valuable from them but you aren't saying what.
They're NPCs. He was demonstrating that they are NPCs. He did so effectively.
It's extremely therouesque. You haven't watched Louis if you think he doesn't direct convos. He does it all the time. The most common thing he ever says is
'Now you're known to'
'Yes, but in the past you've said/done X'
>reddit spacing
Louis lets people get much deeper into their opinions and tries to see where they are coming from, also i must have missed the Theroux documentaries where midway he breaks down the wall and tells his opinion. Have you watched Louis's transgender documentary? It's actually a pretty good example of what I'm talking about on how to get a meatier substance
Seems like you're just concern trolling.
The interviews were perfect. He exposed the leftists as dishonest. There is nothing else to be gained from talking to liars.
>interviewing the craziest people they could find
Which would be fine if they were all delegated to twitter. However as the doc showed these nutcases hold public and private positions of societal influence. troony defenders are always downplaying this
If anyone has a PTP account, go look up the comments under this film.
One of the mods literally claimed the majority of the PTP users are trans. Total delusion
precision time protocols?
Joining a gay ass club to pirate is something a troony would do
What the frick is "RYM"
Women and their defenders shouldn't exist.
Trannies shouldnt exist.
Sure, but what is a troony? Either a woman. Or a man wanting to be a woman. Both belong in the oven. Enough with this nonsense already, we need to correct God's biggest mistake and if he has a problem with that we need to correct him too.
Why didn't this movie explore the obvious link between circumcision and gender dysphoria? Seems strange considering what a big deal it is.
somehow morons don't view circumcision as exactly the same type of child abuse as this troony shit, which it is plain and simple
being circumcised isn't what caused your life to be shit.
I'm not circumcised anon, my parents had the good graces to give birth to me in a first world country
>Tfw amerishart but parents were hardcore catholic immigrants so no israelite dick for me
based
incase you are confused about my standpoint
circumcision is evil and exactly the same as this troony bullshit
>mutilating your son's dick to LARP as long-dead israelites and have their skin ground up into a powder to be smeared on aging women's faces is perfectly normal and good, goyim
>The Daily Wire is an American conservative news website and media company founded in 2015 by political commentator Ben Shapiro
listen goy, thats going too far
Trans people are a sliver of the world's population. There are so few of them it's not even funny. And I'll admit, the idea of changing your sex is pretty absurd and hard to wrap your head around. In other words, it's confusing and rare. So if you're a regular kind of guy that just wants to get through the day with as little bullshit as possible, you might want to brush off the subject of trans people with a comment like, "A man's a man, a woman's a woman, and if you disagree you're delusional or stupid!"
What this documentary has done is basically tell a shit ton of lies and half truths to validate that knee-jerk reaction by interviewing people that have a huge bug up their ass about trans people and then not interviewing any actual trans people or even cisgender allies so that the lies aren't debunked and the other half of the half-truths don't come out. This is what this movie is - Bad filmmakers pushing their political agenda.
I really don't know where I stand on the idea/issue tbh. Mostly because it doesn't make sense to me (I've tried). I'd never be mean to a trans person, but idk I think people should either be able to identify as anything whether that be a rock, a squirrel, or another race or you have to stop telling me you're a woman/man because you "feel" a certain way. I've never felt like a man or a woman, and I guess that means I should be a they/them, but when I look between my legs I know what I am regardless of my feelings/interests. A woman either has to have a vegana (a real one) or anyone can identify as ANYTHING. It's all or nothing. That's the only way it can make sense imo.
Agreed. To me, men have benis, woman have bagina, that's how I make sense of the world. But there are a niche of mentally ill people and I don't see any benefit of beating up on them and I also don't see this documentary as particularly helpful to understanding where the balance may be.
Oh I believe I know reality, I don't think this documentary answers the real question though. What is a woman? isn't the question that gets to the bottom of how to help/deal with this trans issue. This was just a cash grab that appeals to one side of a division.
>isn't the question that gets to the bottom of how to help/deal with this trans issue.
It's a question that exposes their complete lack of grip on reality. You can deal with people who operate based on logic. X is okay, Y isn't. You can't deal with zealotry, either you wipe it out or it wipes you out.
I feel bad for people with gender dysphoria, it sounds horrible. But having that co-opted into a social movement that makes no sense? This kind of stuff is just dangerous to vulnerable members of society.
Nobody has gender dysphoria, that's not a real thing. It's a fabricated mental illness that never existed until it was invented and then pushed onto people. Basically it's abuse, and by pretending it's real you enable that abuse. No different from gaslighting a kid with racist rhetoric into thinking they were born wrong and giving them "race dysphoria". It doesn't exist without abuse.
>But there are a niche of mentally ill people and I don't see any benefit of beating up on them
It's because they are psychotic bullies wielding the power of government and international institutions.
it doesn't matter that they're trannies. they could've been christcucks or furries for all it matters. what matters is that they've ended up being empowered to behave as badly as they want to by the current social trends
of course, the whole point about them is that what's being done for them is indefensible. literally, that's the point. it's completely indefensible to say that a man can become a woman or vice versa. it's literally impossible. so, the act of saying it in spite of this represents a conspicuous signal of tribal affiliation. that's why e.g., supreme court justices are afraid to even talk about it for fear of saying something wrong. it's not because anyone gives a shit about trannies. it's because accepting the whole confluence of troony psychosis has become a signal that you're on the right side of history or whatever. that's why you lose your job if you say anything wrong on this. again, it's not about the trannies, it's about the trannies having become associated with this strain of elite culture and are being used as a loyalty test
from one point of view, the people who should be most upset about this are the trannies themselves. but from another point, they're gaining a huge amount of unearned privilege and tolerance for their evil shit as a result so one can see how they're okay with it. literally, you rape a girl in a school's bathroom and just invoke troonyism and it will be covered up and the parent of the girl will be investigated by the FBI as a potential terrorist for complaining about it.
that's a lot of power.
which is why it should bother you. it should bother everyone.
god that article is painful to look at
>it doesn't matter that they're trannies. they could've been christcucks or furries for all it matters
this is a good point, because the Trans movement is very like a religious one: they believe a person has an essence ('soul' in religious terms) that is separate or distinct from their physical body, and that a soul can be trapped "in the wrong body."
Trans people simply have body dysmorphia or gender dysphoria. These are mental illnesses and have been defined as mental illness until 2016 when, I believe, the CDC took it off their mental illness list. Why did they do this? It's likely because at that time, it was determined that the best and only way to "cure or treat" gender dysphoria is gender affirmation, including surgeries. Now why is this? For one, it's extremely profitable, and the second reason is because when they took it off the mental illness list, it's now EXTREMELY difficult to receive grant money for researching treatments based on it being a mental disorder. What this means is that, because of the "right choice" being gender affirmation surgery, it is now nearly impossible to study the dysphoria in relation to brain chemistry and mental illness, which is what it is.
You should be mean to trannies. I mean that sincerely, as somebody who has been attacked by them relentlessly for being a "prettyboy" with long hair. All trannies are groomers and they're always predatory. The things they believe in are inherently sexist, inherently bigoted and inherently homophobic. Their cult is all about conversion therapy. They do what they do because they're hateful and spiteful, nothing about their narrative is sincere.
>I really don't know where I stand on the idea/issue tbh.
Let me help you. In post-WW2 Germany there was a doctor by the name of Helmut Kentler(pic related). Helmut Kentler was avowed antifascist and came up with theory that fascism is related to sexual repression. So to test his theories he, with blessing of goverment, conducted several experiments where he placed many children into foster care of pedophiles. He himself was homosexual and abused several children. This was all done in the name of his leftist ideology. It wasnt public knowledge that this was happening but it wasnt hidden either(there were similar cases in the form of leftist Kinderladen). His victims have recently started speaking out. Your attitude is exactly reason this was allowed to happen. There is obvious abuse going on and you are worried about being mean.
ive posted this guy around a bit, just curious, did you learn about him from a post outside of /misc/?
>https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2021/07/26/the-german-experiment-that-placed-foster-children-with-pedophiles
Yes, I read about him in the New Yorker aarticle.
The basic reality is that you still can't answer the titular question, though. Doesn't matter how "bad" you think the film is, its premise stands, and will forever stand until you face reality.
>The basic reality is that you still can't answer the titular question, though.
since this doc was released (and long before that) people have been giving this answer, but the troons and troon adjacents just ignore it, then claim no one else can define it either
There's no such thing as "transgender". You are whatever you were born as. It can't change. Nobody is ever born in the wrong body. You've adopted a harmful and cancerous ideology that flies in the face of all reason and human decency. Boys don't have to stop being boys to feel pretty. Girls don't have to stop being girls to enjoy sports. The ideas you're supporting are bigoted and sexist. You're not a good person. Your fad doesn't make you unique or interesting. It just makes you a fool who can't think for himself and isn't brave enough to defy stereotypes. Stop enabling death cults that prey on the vulnerable and sensitive. Stop reinforcing sexist stereotypes. Stop marginalizing and erasing tomboys and femboys. Stop attacking LGB people for refusing to have sex with you.
>Boys don't have to stop being boys to feel pretty. Girls don't have to stop being girls to enjoy sports
I really dont get why this got thrown out the windows. I played with my sisters barbies growing up, and some girls in my elementary school liked trucks and hockey and other "boy stuff" and no one ever really shit on them or tried to compartmentalize them into a box. Like at most you'd hear stuff like "he's sensitive" for guys or "tomboy" for girls but for most people neither of those terms were seen as a bad thing.
I dont get why now it's become WOAH IS THAT BOY COLORING A GIRLS COLORING BOOK, CUT HIS PENIS OFF IMMEDIATELY HE'S HECKIN TRANS AND IF YOU SAY OTHERWISE YOURE A BIGOT.
Because they want to enforce conformity, and the idea of somebody who doesn't obey all of the norms and stereotypes society offers them is heresy. Trannies and anyone who supports trannies are just intesnsely sexist and homophobic bigots who would gladly slaughter every single child that presents any trait they might consider "unusual".
>Trans people are a sliver of the world's population
Still too many. I will not be satisfied until there are no trannies left and the idea of queer theory is expunged from the memory of men forever.
They're doing medical experiments on children that have been brainwashed by purple-haired weirdos in their schools. That's what has people upset, you disingenuous groomer pos.
>"A man's a man, a woman's a woman, and if you disagree you're delusional or stupid!"
that's correct though.
>Trans people are a sliver of the world's population.
Doesn't matter. There are now additional laws about what I can or cannot say. I am not allowed to call a USB stick a dongle. This shit is invasive.
Today I will remind them.
Transgender cultists and kosher boshers gaslight vulnerable people into thinking that hormones and surgery are the only way for them to be happy, that they were born in the "wrong body" and that the way to start living as their "true selves" is through experimental surgery. The gender identity lie makes it easy for them to convince anyone with even a single atypical interest that they were really "meant to be" the opposite sex. The guaranteed state mandated acceptance and constant positive reinforcement from the media and their fellow grooming victims helps sell the con, too. But in reality there's no genuine appeal. HRT is ugly serum that makes you fat and ruins your skin, it doesn't "feminize". The "bottom surgery" is simply genital mutilation. It can't give you a real vegana. They absolutely do not need surgery or hormones to start loving the way they were born. Boys don't need to cease being male to feel pretty. Girls don't need to cease being female to feel athletic. The gender identity construct is inherently limiting. It tells people they need to change themselves to express any feelings they have that don't fall in line with the socially accepted parodies that our media considers "masculine" and "feminine". It's sad that people get tricked into hating and destroying themselves like this just to appease sexist stereotypes, even moreso that a lot of them are kids. If we had positive femboy and tomboy rolemodels rather than these transgender groomers telling everyone that self esteem is achieved through hormones and surgery, I think you'd see a lot more happy people who accept that they don't fit into gender stereotypes and a lot less miserable mutilation victims who insist on being called something they're not. The world becomes a better place when we celebrate tough girls and sensitive boys who break the mold while invalidating this meaningless and dangerous fad.
The entire notion of "transgender" is inherently bigoted, it's rooted in homophobia and sexism. There is no such thing as a man who expresses himself "as a woman". A man who wears makeup is expressing himself in one of the many ways that men can, and by insisting that he's a woman, or even by allowing him to insist that he's a woman, you're actively reducing the number of ways men are allowed to express themselves. You're saying "no, men aren't allowed to be beautiful or wear makeup. they have to become women if they want to do that". You're saying "no, girls aren't allowed to cut their hair short or play sports. they have to become men if they want to do that". Enforced conformity is all it is. It's no different from an oppressive traditionalist purity spiral. If you actually cared about these people you would want them to love and accept their bodies and their actual, true selves. They aren't transgender. Nobody is. There's no such thing as "transgender". They're just afraid of society bludgeoning them to force them to get back in line. So instead of changing their behavior to be more socially acceptable for men, they think they can change their bodies to be more socially acceptable for their behavior. Do you not see how that's the same problem either way? People need to stand up and say "men can wear makeup and women can have hairy legs and it's not taboo". They should never, EVER give in to the society's bigoted demands by changing their bodies to look more like the opposite sex, which never works by the way and always results in monstrosities. If you don't see why actual LGB people are against transgender ideology you're either a bad faith bigot or you have zero empathy.
I hate conservatives and will shit on anything they do or put out because they are ruining the world
This isn't a "conservative vs progressive" issue. Trannies kill actual LGB people and a lot of normal children get mutilated as collateral damage. No matter where you are on the political spectrum you need to be against trannies.
This, the sooner normies and real gays realize it the better. It's them, always. israelite and trannies.
Real gays have known it longer than anybody. Actually being gay makes it so much more obvious how full of shit these freaks are. If I can be comfortable as a prettyboy with long hair then they can too. They have no excuse.
>people who want to conserve things are ruining them
Interesting thought, care to explain that one?
>I don't like trans, fellow cismales, no I just hate this other group
You're comment is about as passable as you are IRL
Is this shit torrented?
I went to the israelites website and it asked me to subscribe. Where are you guys watching this? Please no meme answers
read the fricking thread you piece of shit
why when I know someone will spoonfeed me?
>Christian larpers
Oh how the mighty have fallen.
oh how weak have fallen and become even more gay and lame
This guy and his documentary are a lot gayer than anything he discusses, just so you know.
Trans Lives Matter more
Another thread about this shitty propaganda doc goes down in flames. Eat shit.
Why do you think this shitty strawman makes you look like anything other than a cultist? There are several essay sized posts in this thread by people who have explained to you that your ideology is just sexist stereotypes gone rampant. You're just a bigot if you support transgender ideology.
>can only go on the offensive with anti-christcuck posting because coherently defending troony dogma is impossible
>The people who push gender ideolgy didn't use the scientific method at all. You're ignoring reality because it upsets you. And you ran away from an argument with an actual gay person in this thread who proved you wrong.
I've addressed this here:
. Scientific method cannot be used if it is nearly impossible to research gender dysphoria as a mental illness.
>169145458
>I've addressed this here: >169144499. Scientific method cannot be used if it is nearly impossible to research gender dysphoria as a mental illness.
I am correct about this.
As somebody with mental health issues in family trannies make me sad. They should be getting proper treatment not others giving in to their delusions.
This. And grown men still living with their parents should be dealt with.
Okay shlomo.
shlomo would love staying at home to save on actually having to pay for anything lmao. Grown men who still live with their parents are absolutely a drain on their family.
>he isn't Latin or Asian with Chad multigen living
People used to say the same thing about gay people. How hard is it to just accept that its abnormal, it's pretty weird, but it's something no amount of therapy will fix and we should just let them live their lives?
>inb4 some /misc/schizo says trannies are literally going door to door en masse and cutting little boys' wieners off
It's just some type of psychosis. It can be cured.
Stop using my sexuality as a defense for your bigotry, please. Transgender ideology hurts people by telling them they need to obey society's stereotypes. You are limiting us. You are telling people they can't live their lives. Your ideology is built from the ground up to limit people and restrict their behavior.
>my
>us
>I
>me me me
Frick off you self-obsessed homosexual. You're not nearly as interesting or important as you think you are.
I am more important than every troony and I reserve the right to talk down to and shame every troony I come across. I'm also going to speak for every gay person and say that we all hate trannies. I get to do this because I'm objectively right and what I'm saying comes from a place of absolute authority on the subject of trannies. I know first hand, better than ANYBODY that trannies are religious death cultists who groom and rape kids.
>words words words
Nice larp btw. Now be a good little schizo and go back to your containment board.
Four sentences is not "words words words" you seething troony. Keep getting blown the frick out by actual gay people who can see your conversion therapy cult for what it is.
Meds and containment board. Now.
have you taken your meds? mine won't work unless you take yours too
typical shitlib. attack any minority who goes against your dogma.
Please see:
. You've been refusing to address it the entire time.
>words words words
You can try to copy board language all you want, you still dont fit in. Remember, you will never pass in real life or in here.
false equivalency. gay people said they want to be respected and they don't have a choice in who they like. Many of the Trans people are not saying they want to be treated as a women, they are saying THEY ARE a women. That is a huge difference. I think lots of people were on board saying they would respect that someone has a very strong desire to depart from the biologically link between how you feel and your chromosomes. But it's a lot different to ask people to admit the absolutely untrue. People that think they ARE a women when they are a man are operating on the same level as an anorexic. They need help.
Exactly, there's a difference between "Ok, I'll call you Claire". And Claire then getting to stomp the competition in the 500 Freestyle. Or getting to call himself a lesbian and try to force his way into their dating pool.
Also worth noting that the ideology that tricked him into wanting to be called Claire in the first place is inherently harmful, and that he would be comfortable being called Ted if that ideology didn't exist and wasn't being pushed onto people. It's literally no different from gaslighting a young black person into thinking they were "born wrong" for being black and that they need to bleach their skin to "affirm their racial identity as white because they behave white". That kind of ideology shouldn't be allowed to exist. Period.
The very fact that this discussion is being held is a disgrace. These cenobites should be stopped by any means necessary, then we can hold debates on what is a woman.
I just don't want to play along with your creepy fetish ok
Why do you spend so much time thinking about them then?
It's gay month, you can't avoid the trannies this time of year
The only place I've seen troony shit is here. Because of you idiots.
gays have known longer than anyone else how annoying FTM trannies are but it's not being made into a big issue because... well, FTM trannies are women, nonnearly as assertive, they can't just coerce acceptance in same way the autogynephilic frankensteins can.
>went to Africa
>ask stupid questions
>make Black folk living in a hut laughing their ass off
the absolute state of troony mentality. even Black person with flies flying all over their mouth are laughing
>B-BUT PEOPLE WHO LIVED IN MUD HUTS 20274929 YEARS AGO SAW REALITY LIKE THIS! THAT MEANS YOU HAVE TO!!!
>IT DOESNT MATTER THAT PUBERTY IS A NON CONSENSUAL FORCED CHANGE!!!! ITS NATURE SO YOU JUST HAVE TO ACCEPT IT BECAUSE I WAS TOO SCARED AND PASSIVE NOT TO!!! YOU DONT GET TO LIVE YOUR AUTHENTIC LIFE BECAUSE IT MAKES *ME* UNCOMFORTABLE
>YOU WILL NOT FRICK CUTE TRANNIES IN THE ASS
>YOU WILL NOT HAVE A FEMBOY SUCK YOUR wiener
>YOU WILL BE A MISERABLE RACIST INCEL
>puberty
>nonconsensual forced change
are you fricking dipshits going to complain about being born as well?
Unironically having kids is evil because of that and the christisraelite free will argument is bogus because god doesn’t ask people if they want to exist in this miserable shitheap planet before forcing them to suffer and die in it. And then torture you forever if you fail the “test”. Why are you surprised I don’t hate trans people as much as religious freaks
>atheist redditor hates existence and life
Checks out. Genuinely hope your life gets better.
>>IT DOESNT MATTER THAT PUBERTY IS A NON CONSENSUAL FORCED CHANGE!!!!
Giving birth is a non-consensual forced change.
>IT DOESNT MATTER THAT PUBERTY IS A NON CONSENSUAL FORCED CHANGE!!!!
you cannot seriously be running with this line of reasoning
Needing to shit in nonconsensual forced evacuation of MY property
>PUBERTY IS A NON CONSENSUAL FORCED CHANGE
Kek, troony finally reveals itself.
If you willingly watch this you're an absolute fricking homosexual
I hate trannies