why is season 2 of the wire usually ranked last or second last?

im only halfway throught the third season but couldnt help notice that season 2 is usually ranked dead last.
Dont get this at all, i really digged expanding the topic of urban decline onto the trade unions, also they still included drug crime. Nice way of branching out while keeping the overall theme, also the setting allowed for some fun interactions too imo, be it the banter along different heritages.
Is it really that valid to be ranked last or just TV critics crying due to less Idris Elba screen time?

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  1. 5 months ago
    Anonymous

    Oppression narrative not allowed to include white working class. Simple as. It's easily the best or second best season but brainlets want gangsters

    • 5 months ago
      Anonymous

      Season 2 was the worst and it's not even close due to bad directing making non-believable ccharacters. Iggy was cartoon character right out of topcat. Everyone was too emotional and over-acting all the time so it lost that slice of life feel. Good setting, good casting, but bad bad terrible directing.

      Its the same thing that made true detective season 2 feel so much worse than the first

      • 5 months ago
        Anonymous

        agree to a certain extent on some over-acting but it still worked well for me. Part of what you are criticizing seemed to be carried hard by the authentic atmosphere they created around the union guys.
        Iggy was a stupid tool and could ahve def. toned it down a notch yet still captured the tragic unavoidable outcome of the never do well soon with a dad thats involved in shady dealings. Same with AJ Soprano or Jackie Jr. You can preach the straight way through college while earning through crime but that only works if your kid is smart enough, otherwise their path would be working retail at walmart and that obviously cant compete with fast money through OC.

  2. 5 months ago
    Anonymous

    People don't like to be reminded that the American dream is dead, sold piece by piece because nobody wants to get up and do something about it.

  3. 5 months ago
    Anonymous

    Because they heard other people ranked it last.

  4. 5 months ago
    Anonymous

    s2 sticks out as the most different when compared to the rest of them.

    in my opinion weakest season is s4. there isnt even a wiretap going on in it

    season 5 is usually lower ranked am0ong fans, but i dont think it is that bad at all. just lest serious. the scenes between mcnutty and everyone who knows what he did are hilarious

  5. 5 months ago
    Anonymous

    It's the best season and arguably the only great season. People get bored if there's no ooga boogas on screen because people are fricking idiots. The key to life is to be the greek

  6. 5 months ago
    Anonymous

    any other good shows or movies that depict the union decline/ blue collar class slowly evaporating?
    Preferably not ones about the big Ford/GM factories but rather smaller but very identity creating settings like the one here?
    Im not even from the states but that season and its depiction of the union traditions versus brutal reality moving on without them mesmerized me, almost chose to rewatch the season straight away instead of continuing with s3.

    • 5 months ago
      Anonymous

      maybe Out of the Furnace and Holler. Wouldn't say they're super realistic and kind of lean into poverty porn.

      • 5 months ago
        Anonymous

        will check those out, ty.

        I couldn't even finish s3 it's so shit compared to s2

        currently fighting through it, s2 kind of gave me too many expectations, so far s3 doesnt seem to hold up, unless theres some major plottwist coming my way.

  7. 5 months ago
    Anonymous

    The other seasons are escapism, like going to the zoo, while S2 hits too close to home

  8. 5 months ago
    Anonymous

    It's over for the little guy.

    • 5 months ago
      Anonymous

      sopranos always felt too hilarious and detached from everyday life (organised crime) to drive this thought home, while this show hit like a fricking truck with that season. Sopranos is still the best show ever made, but id dare rank this season up there with it almost.

  9. 5 months ago
    Anonymous

    i found it annoying when i first watched it - but i still enjoyed it
    nicky and ziggy are annoying for different reasons

  10. 5 months ago
    Anonymous

    I couldn't even finish s3 it's so shit compared to s2

  11. 5 months ago
    Anonymous

    One of the realest seasons of The Wire. I think some people found it boring

  12. 5 months ago
    Anonymous

    Isn't that the season where the BET version is super condensed because it's only the black storylines?

  13. 5 months ago
    Anonymous

    Anti-polish sentiment

  14. 5 months ago
    Anonymous

    What really hits hard is seeing Johnny Fifty homeless in the fifth season.

  15. 5 months ago
    Anonymous

    I don't know. To me, it's the best season, followed by season 1. S4, if anything, is INSANELY overrated.

  16. 5 months ago
    Anonymous

    season 2 best season just because of her. she was my first female crush. look at her she is so cute.

    • 5 months ago
      Anonymous

      >McNulty gets together when he stops fricking up his life at the end of season 3
      >spends the 4th season just being happy with her
      >then they pull him back in and everything gets ruined
      Man, I wish it hadn't happened like that. I feel like the 5th season was just the weakest shit ever.

      • 5 months ago
        Anonymous

        yea there was no reason for it to fall apart either. his life wasn't shit anymore and their wire tap was in a better position. Personally I blame Bunk. Bunk or Dunlop.

        • 5 months ago
          Anonymous

          IIRC, it was because Bodie's death hit him hard and he wanted to bring down Marlo. Bodie's death had an impact on him because Bodie was killed for being seen with McNulty at the station.

  17. 5 months ago
    Anonymous

    There was some quality boob honking iirc as well.

    • 5 months ago
      Anonymous

      did anything else happen?

      • 5 months ago
        Anonymous

        amazing how firm they are for that size and her body fat %.

        • 5 months ago
          Anonymous

          always found that scene super hot where McNulty is having one for the road with his ex-wife, no honk there tho

      • 5 months ago
        Anonymous

        always found that scene super hot where McNulty is having one for the road with his ex-wife, no honk there tho

  18. 5 months ago
    Anonymous

    It broke up the momentum of the first season after it just started getting good after a mediocre start. The entire show was poorly run and produced. It only had good episodes out of sheer luck and israelites wanting to humanize criminals.

  19. 5 months ago
    Anonymous

    >why is season 2 of the wire usually ranked last or second last?

    Ziggy is fricking annoying especially on the first watch, the Barksdale crew is pushed aside for the most part and the whole season is a very slow burn with a shitton of new characters, including the Greeks. Jimmy, a fan favorite, is gone from homicide and goes on his own little adventure. Unions, politics and container ports are too fricking real for the average Joe, who would much rather see ghetto nigs killing each other over real estate.
    So there's that. It is also the season that profits the most from repeated viewings, which means that Season 2 is the one that seperates avid watchers of the show from the casual audience. It is basically the perfect filter. Personally I love the season for its comfy winter setting, the dock scenes and the feud between Sobotka and Valchek. McNulty vs Rawls is fun. Horse and Frank have good chemistry. Ziggy grows on you with repeated viewings. He's still irritating, but you get a better understanding why he behaves that way.

  20. 5 months ago
    Anonymous

    The first series was applauded for its focus on blacks, on both sides of the law
    Shifting to the suffocation of blue-collar labour was too alien for champaigne-supping tv critics

  21. 5 months ago
    Anonymous

    because people are moronic

  22. 5 months ago
    Anonymous

    Season 2 is probably the best. I've watched the show 5 times at least maybe more. I'm gonna buy some Jameson tomorrow and get drunk.

    • 5 months ago
      Anonymous

      Wrong pic

  23. 5 months ago
    Anonymous

    >tfw you're ziggy, AJ and dutch

  24. 5 months ago
    Anonymous

    > lesbianca
    best line in all of The Wire
    followed by
    > SPOT ON

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