Why is Snyder so obsessed with making super hero’s kill even though it’s against their moral code? Is it because he’s a Miller fanboy?
Why is Snyder so obsessed with making super heros kill even though its against their moral code?
Why is Snyder so obsessed with making super hero’s kill even though it’s against their moral code? Is it because he’s a Miller fanboy?
You answered your own question. Precisely because it is against their wishes and a hero is nothing if he isn't challenged.
He's a israelite. Everything is revenge for the Holocaust to him.
He is christian, Snyder isnt a israelite.
He respects it, he understands that different media needs different standards, and that if you are going to portrait violence i na stylized way said violence need consequences or else you are just glorifying it. People like to see captain America killing a man by breaking his spine while landing on him, but is not even perceived as a murder becuase it has no weight, people don't mind burton's batman killing, but the music and sound effects are cartoony so is not the bad kind of killing.
Movies without death or sex have no drama. It's a corporate waxjob, with anything unpleasant swept under the rug
Sex scensa in movies is completely unecessary. It's just an excuse for a producer, writer, director, or male actor to molest an actress. Even if a sex scene is 10 seconds long in the movie you know they have 20 to 30 takes of just the actress and they jack off to it. It's pretty based but since that content never ends up in the special features of home releases it just makes a movie feel cheesy or time padding.
Heroes fight, kill, and frick.
Sod off, feminist mangina.
Why are superheros so averse to killing dangerous, objectively evil people who murder thousands with little effort or thought?
That's the real question for Snyder's Superman. There is no reason in the film that justifies him having any hesitation or remorse about killing Zod. He doesn't have any rule against killing and there's no reason given for him to have such a rule. The film treats it as a big deal for Superman to kill, but there's nothing to indicate why it's a big deal to THIS Superman. It's just confusing to see him be more upset about Zod than the thousands of dead humans. And the argument that he's sad because now he's the only Kryptonian left just makes it even more confusing since Supes was the one who destroyed the embryos and any chance the Kryptonians had at survival.
Yeah that's the thing, claiming him going snappo on Zod was what created his belief against killing doesn't make sense either because where did that despair come from then?
He also absolutely kills someone in his first scene in the very next movie.
Ding ding ding, that’s correct, cupcake. None of HACK SNYDERS movies make a damned lick of sense. His only decent one was Watchmen, and only because it was largely a shot for shot mimic of the original comic. HACK Snyder isn’t getting work these days at DC.
Are you homosexuals moronic? Of course Superman doesn't want to kill Zod. Superman doesn't want to kill anyone. He's not a murderer. That scene wasn't there to explain Superman "no-kill" rule. That scene was there to show that sometimes there isn't an easy solution. Same with Superman and the army needing to depend on one another to save the world. Superman couldn't be at two places at once and needed not only help, but to make a difficult choice on where he could help best. The whole movie is about Superman being faced with a difficult choice and having to take the hardest but needed road.
>Superman doesn't want to kill anyone. He's not a murderer.
I'm not a murderer either but if a space alien came to my planet, started killing thousands of people, and made it clear he would not stop until he had killed everyone, I would not feel a single ounce of regret for killing that psycho.
>That scene was there to show that sometimes there isn't an easy solution.
Except that was the easy solution. The difficult solution would have been finding some way to imprison Zod without killing him.
>The whole movie is about Superman being faced with a difficult choice and having to take the hardest but needed road.
What the actual frick are you talking about? It's the easiest road. It's the most obvious choice to make. If someone is about to murder a shitload of innocent people, of course you kill them first. It's an extremely basic choice where just about everyone would choose to do the exact same thing. It's not difficult in the slightest. That is explicitly why Superman is written to not kill the majority of the time: because his abilities afford him the luxury to take the more difficult path of stopping bad guys without killing them. There is nothing difficult about killing someone, normal people do it all the time.
And I really have to question how the hell you think it's a 'difficult' choice to kill a man who is about to murder an innocent family. It's not. Killing Zod was objectively and obviously the correct option. There is nothing morally grey about it and you need serious help if you think there's any compelling argument for Superman to have let him kill those people.
>There is nothing difficult about killing someone, normal people do it all the time.
Only if you're a fricking broken person.
>Only if you're a fricking broken person.
and everyone in the military who has killed or is prepared to kill another person is broken? every 'good guy with a gun' who shot a psycho trying to kill innocents is 'broken'? bullshit. everyone recognizes that it is morally right to kill in defense of the innocent.
>People who kill all the time are cops and soldiers, who are specifically dehumanized freaks, and murderers.
>cops and soldiers, who are specifically dehumanized freaks
Of course the Snyder shills are psycho leftists who think that nobody should be allowed to defend themselves, and being a cop means you are brainwashed into fascism and kill babies for fun, etc. Grow up and learn how the world works. Shooting criminals who are going to harm innocents is universally acknowledged as the right thing to do in every functioning society because that's the only way you can have a functioning society in the first place. Normal people pick up weapons to defend themselves and their loved ones all the time. No mental illness required. Good luck going through life thinking that you need to be a psychopath in order to protect others.
>most people would be emotional about the first time they kill someone.
Not to what we see in the film. Killing Zod creates a bigger emotional response than the deaths of thousands, or even his own father's death. It's bizarre.
yes, bearing witness to others deaths is different from directly killing someone by your own agency. It’s not bizarre at all
>It’s not bizarre at all
Nobody has anywhere near that reaction to realizing they killed a mass murderer. People just don't behave that way. It takes time to set in and it's typically not regret that's the problem, just the remnants of fear/adrenaline. The only reason that particular overblown yell is in the movie is because Snyder wanted to have the impact of Superman breaking his rule and killing someone, but he forgot to set up the payoff.
Wow you sure sound like an expert on the appropriate emotional reaction for that extremely stressful situation, do you have any examples of people acting that way like you claim?
>do you have any examples of people acting that way like you claim?
see basically anyone who's shot someone in self-defence.
>There is nothing difficult about killing someone, normal people do it all the time.
People who kill all the time are cops and soldiers, who are specifically dehumanized freaks, and murderers.
So no, normal people don't do it all the time.
It's a big deal because it is literally the only other member of his species left alive, he is killing the only other kryptonian in existence (he believes the others to be dead at this point)
Read above. It's pretty obvious man, do you really need it spelled out? Also he doesn't kill the dictator in the next movie. If he had, it would have been noted in his accusations in front of the senate, but its made very clear that everyone there dies from his "laser" beams, which were actually the Lex corp goons.
>It's a big deal because it is literally the only other member of his species left alive
Did you not read my post? He was the one who killed all the future members of his species by choosing to destroy the ship that housed the embryos. He didn't give a single shit that Kryptonians would go extinct, he personally wiped them out simply because it was the fastest and easiest way to frick up Zod.
You. Are. moronic.
He destroyed the terraforming ship. It was the military + Lois that brought down the ship with the birthing chamber and sent all the other kryptonians to the phantom zone. And they didn't even destroy the entire ship, since we see it is still there in the next movie.
You have legitimate brain damave.
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>Supes lasers the ship
>cut to Lois watching the ship fall from the sky
>cut to survivors watching the ship fall
>cut to the ship smashing through buildings and probably killing a bunch more people
>cut to the embryos getting smashed
Superman destroyed them. At least watch the damn film if you're going to defend it.
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This dude got turned into paste.
Superman says in the next scene he didn't kill the guy to Lois Lane.
Nah, if its not on screen he didn't die, if superman had killed him they would have made a big deal about it. He got hurt, sure, but the movie makes it a huge deal when they think Superman kills a regular human and has multiple characters in universe call him out on it. If no one brought that up, then it wasnt a kill.
He didn't destroy the embryos you stupid pajeet
anon… most people would be emotional about the first time they kill someone. You don’t need some special no kill rule established.
>Oh no I just killed a kryptonian, the race that is basically extinct and that I am a part of.
It's just Superman and Batman and it's because he doesn't respect the childish "vigilante enforces peace through violence but it's fine nobody ever actually gets hurt" thing
Wonder Woman, Fishman etc don't have any such code.
Eh who gives a frick? He’s done with superhero movies anyway. DC is distancing as they should. Dude is a hack. I call him “HACK SNYDER”.
Superman killed Zod in the original movie.
Dc has infinite universes, everything is possible. Stop complaining
Correct. I also have noted this. They can leverage the stuff they already have, as long as it isn’t flaming dogshit.
That "if god is all-powerful, he cannot be all good - and if he is all good, then he cannot be all-powerful." thing one of his characters said is actually what he thinks
No, he just thinks that heroism is about self-sacrifice in all aspects. If you're willing to involve yourself in a life-and-death situation even if it is to help another person you must be willing to shoulder the responsibility for whatever that might happen, even if the outcome is some awful unintended fallout. There is no such thing as playing hero and remaining with your hands bloodless. Violence is an awful and ugly thing that marks all affected by it.
This is what the VILLAIN thinks which means it is what you arent meant to think / agree with you actual moron
Superman killed Zod and his cronies in the comics. He has killed lots of aliens in the comics.
Aliens aren't people, it's why nobody makes a big deal about Spiderman activating his suits MURDER MODE against Thanos' grunts
Zod is an alien
>“Even if we understand from this outer perspective that Superman is saving the world being essentially terraformed into another planet, the greater good is being served,” Snyder said. “It’s like an Ozymandias-type scenario when, you know, a big sacrifice is made to save the world and I would say that not even intentionally in this case, Zod is a powerful dude. To suggest you could defeat him without him nearly winning is not realistic at all or the kind of consequence I wanted from my superhero movies.”
>“I don’t like this idea where there’s no consequence, that these characters get to knock around in our world and that they create and solve these giant problems,” Snyder added.
Snyder was right on this, Superman and Batman not killing goons and mass murderers was always childish and stupid.
I don't know shit about Superman comics but Zod learned to handle his powers too quickly imo
Zod is a soldier bred for war. Superman learned how to fight on a fricking farm.
Anyone else hyped to see Zod back in The Flash? He was one of the better comic book villains in either the DCEU or MCU.
I am two-ways about it. I love that Shannon is back as General Zod, but i also know that they won't deliver the same level of kino Man of Steel provided so i fear that i am basically going to feel that Diet Coke experience, you feel me?
Yeah but Shannon was so good as Zod his scenes will be great even if the rest of the film isn't Man of Steel level.
That's true. Just him walking around and screaming will be great to see. You just know that he and Michael Keaton will carry this movie on their shoulders.
Even during the final fight Zod barely had any sense of control
Snyder didn’t make this movie. David Goyer the israelite behind interracial Krypton and The Dark Knight trilogy went up to Christopher Nolan who was consulting on the movie and said “I want to make a movie where Superman kills someone” and they literally wrote a movie around the premise of him killing Zod. Snyder had nothing to do with Man of Steel
what if he subdued him by covering his eyes with his hands
And then he got the hand stigmata
>what if he subdued him by covering his eyes with his hands
That would be stupid as frick and wouldn't wo-
>And then he got the hand stigmata
Alright, that'd be cool.
The Indians like killing so he makes his characters struggle with a need to kill. It gives them something to relate to.
he's basically uwe boll but with a bigger budget
The funniest thing about Snyder's Batman is that he is willing to kill random fricking henchmen but he won't kill the Joker. Even his in-universe headcanon contradicts itself lmao.