They don't have sex in real life so they can't stand to see it on a screen without associating it instantly with porn. Any normal person who actually has sex just sees it for it is. Another part of the movie where the characters are expressing themselves like normal people.
No one has been able to answer this question to this day. The only argument in favor is that "sex is normal". So is eating, that doesn't mean I want to look at someone munching on a steak for an entire minute. >cue in morons bringing up all the scenes that take place in a restaurant
those are obviously vehicles to carry a conversation between characters, I'm talking about a scene where it's nothing but a close-up of someone chewing a steak with his mouth open
if you were a starving man and you were constantly shown pictures of food, wouldn't it make you a bit upset?
10 months ago
Anonymous
just dont watch movies with sex scenes then or stop being a little b***h lmao
10 months ago
Anonymous
>Just don't watch it
That's rich coming from the guy who deliberately entered a thread discussing sex scenes just to complain that there are people disagreeing with him
>The only argument in favor is that "sex is normal" >cue in moron saying just that
the only thing that makes me butthurt are the monkeys who can not physicallycome up with an answer beyond "it's just sex bro" anytime you try to challenge their world view, proving ultimately that trying to reason with a coomer is pointless.
Because sex is an intimate act between two people. If done well it can convey how the characters actually feel about each other, the purpose of their sexual encounter, experience/anxieties regarding sex, and build a deeper bond than just a kiss on the cheek.
Example: The sex might be simply a quick my meant to relieve tension, maybe one of the characters shows more affection to the other than they do to them.
>cut to black
Or just skip it if it makes you feel uncomfortable sperg. The only time I agree with such things if it is added for the sole purpose of adding sex and filler. Especially when the initiation of the intimate act makes no sense.
Add to that the fact the zoomers are a generation that is actually asking the previous generation to shelter them from the outside world.
That's why everything need to caution disclamer on every piece off intertaiment. Hell, in my country a class of zoomer in art degree was supposed to do a work on a movie with a rape scene. They all refused to see the movie and complained that showing the movie was enforcing rape culture.
Teenager are supposed to have a rebellious phase against the rule of their parents not asking them to keep them in a sanitized and childish environment.
are zoomers unable to distinguish between fiction and reality? it's the same way you can't have a character act bigoted now without the work itself being deemed problematic
Because everyone took the "everything is politic" meme without understanding what it meant.
"Everything is politic" mean that every fictionnal creation is influenced by it's author view/opinion and the time and place he live (like during the Cold War where vilain were often Soviet Union/Commies reference or Lord of the RIng being inspired by European folklore and Tolkien life experience in WW1).
To them it's mean everything is political propaganda and if everything is propaganda, it's must be the "right propaganda" and if it's not the case it's bad propaganda and must be removed.
>Teenager are supposed to have a rebellious phase against the rule of their parents
Someone actually wrote a pretty good rebuttal to this idea:
"I'm suspicious of this theory that thirteen-year-old kids are intrinsically messed up. If it's physiological, it should be universal. Are Mongol nomads all nihilists at thirteen? I've read a lot of history, and I have not seen a single reference to this supposedly universal fact before the twentieth century.
In pre-industrial times, teenagers were all apprentices of one sort or another, whether in shops or on farms or even on warships. They weren't left to create their own societies. They were junior members of adult societies.
Teenagers seem to have respected adults more then, because the adults were the visible experts in the skills they were trying to learn. Now most kids have little idea what their parents do in their distant offices, and see no connection (indeed, there is precious little) between schoolwork and the work they'll do as adults.
And if teenagers respected adults more, adults also had more use for teenagers. After a couple years' training, an apprentice could be a real help. Even the newest apprentice could be made to carry messages or sweep the workshop.
Now adults have no immediate use for teenagers. They would be in the way in an office. So they drop them off at school on their way to work, much as they might drop the dog off at a kennel if they were going away for the weekend."
>Teenagers seem to have respected adults more then
You were forced to start working as a child to support yourself and/or your family. “Respect of your elders” was just hierarchical thing where you had to take shit from older people with more power and then you wanted to repeat the abuse to younger people when you gained power. It had nothing to do with “oh wowie wow you are such an expert, older person!” unless the older person was literally teaching you things you found interesting and wasn’t an butthole to you.
>why gen z is so terrified of sex.
Well... where do we begin? I'd say growing up in a matriarchy, first and foremost. Being fed a steady diet of #MeToo hysteria during their adolescent years probably didn't help. Then to top it all off, women like Lizzo are held up as a modern sex symbol. Imagine how fricked your head would be under these circumstances. We're not even exploring the fact that they were all forced to wear Bane masks in public settings for a year and a half. That generation has been psychologically tortured through internet neo-liberalism for their entire lives.
because zoomoids are so creeped and/or intimidated by sex they don't have it, don't want to see it, don't want to think about it. 2nd worst generation after boomers.
Add to that the fact the zoomers are a generation that is actually asking the previous generation to shelter them from the outside world.
That's why everything need to caution disclamer on every piece off intertaiment. Hell, in my country a class of zoomer in art degree was supposed to do a work on a movie with a rape scene. They all refused to see the movie and complained that showing the movie was enforcing rape culture.
Teenager are supposed to have a rebellious phase against the rule of their parents not asking them to keep them in a sanitized and childish environment.
>Sex scenes are at their best when they are important plot moments in and of themselves.
You're right. But more of then than not, they aren't and are pure fanservice for the male gaze.
If that's what you want, fine. But you'd just spend your time more productively watching porn.
I can kind of agree with the fanservice point, but I do think purely fanservice sex scenes can work if the film itself is a kind of artistic/arthouse piece that uses the fanservice as a vehicle for helping the audience tolerate/take in the deeper themes. Like how a teacher will sometimes use jokes to both help students get through a boring lecture and understand the material.
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This is conservapedia approved redpill kino >https://www.conservapedia.com/Essay:Greatest_Conservative_Movies >This action-adventure extols the virtues of conservative law and order, following the journey of man tasked with hunting (liberal) pirates. >Many of the lessons are analogous to the struggle against the lawless antifa of today. >The movie explores, in great detail, the trap of lust and morally loose women. >It is in many ways a warning for what may become if we abandon Judeo-Christian family values and cave to liberal immorality -- sex-crazed women and endless orgies.
>deliberately starts a thread discussing ''puritans'' >''puritans'' show up and voice their opinion >REEE HOW DARE YOU NOT BE HORNY! >THOSE DAMN ZOOMERS WILL TAKE AWAY OUR TITTY MAGS! >OH THE HUMANITY!
Why are coomers so fragile?
They know they are wrong but that is not their priority. They operate on pursuit of social security via adherence to consensus, which has commanded their habits, addictions, and inhibitions, which means that people who are right are the enemy and threaten their sense of social security within the group, and more superficially, their sense of personal security regarding access to addictive materials.
Also I love seeing people calling teenagers and young adults "puritans" outside of /misc/ where these people feel it is safe to complain in plain terms instead of having to deny all reality. Like the same people calling zoomers puritans will go and pretend gen-z is religiously and uniformly devoted to having butt sex with different races, for the sake of razzing chuds.
I hate sex scenes in movies and I have a wife and a sex life. They are just awkward and a waste of time. Watching the characters hump is not equivalent to having sex. Coomer brains constantly reveal the level of harm their livestyles has done to them when they draw statements regarding negative reaction to the programming.
>Start a thread on a imageboard to complain that other people don't enjoy the same things as you >Those people inevitably show up and argue with you >Cry that you are being oppresed and that this is not their business
The coomer cries out as he strikes you
I am neither a puritan nor a coomer, but I can at least understand the reasoning behind being the former. People who want more sex in everything just because are just shady.
The unironic answer is that some want to see a thing they like (i.e. porn) in a setting outside of its usual context (a porn website/mag/etc.). For example, a person could enjoy a hard drug like cocaine and also enjoy a more socially acceptable drug like caffeine, because it gives a similar experience in a different context. I don’t see anything wrong with it, coom has been a powerful driving force for creativity since the grug times.
Bingo. I like breasts. And living at the beach affords me plenty of chances to see girls in thongs and bikinis. I'd argue it's way better than looking at them on a phone or a computer monitor.
Kinda the same with movies.
Sex scenes in movies are more realistic than porn. The vast majority of porn is weird hardcore fetishized shit where nobody behaves remotely naturally. Women constantly screaming at the top of their lungs, making weird nasal noises, seething through their gritted teeth, making anime faces, trying to make as many different facial expressions as they can in any given moment, doing sex positions that are performative to the camera like a choreographed gymnastics routine and nothing like actual sex, gaping buttholes, ruined orgasms, dudes getting rimmed. There's good porn out there featuring normal hot sex with normal hot women but it's hard to find within the sea of weird stuff that comes across as a parody of real sex.
And perhaps the most egregious example is how guys always have to pull out and jerk themselves off in every single video. Honestly, how many times have you been getting jerked off by a woman, about to cum any second from her hands, before deciding to take your dick away from her and jerk yourself off for the last half a second to cum from your own hand instead? In what fricking way is that a normal or pleasurable thing to do?
This is a fantastic argument for why porn needs to be better, so it can compete with the best movie sex scenes. But it doesn't address the problem that most non-pornographic movies do not need sex scenes and the sex scenes contribute no artistic value.
Sex scenes in movies are more realistic than porn. The vast majority of porn is weird hardcore fetishized shit where nobody behaves remotely naturally. Women constantly screaming at the top of their lungs, making weird nasal noises, seething through their gritted teeth, making anime faces, trying to make as many different facial expressions as they can in any given moment, doing sex positions that are performative to the camera like a choreographed gymnastics routine and nothing like actual sex, gaping buttholes, ruined orgasms, dudes getting rimmed. There's good porn out there featuring normal hot sex with normal hot women but it's hard to find within the sea of weird stuff that comes across as a parody of real sex.
And perhaps the most egregious example is how guys always have to pull out and jerk themselves off in every single video. Honestly, how many times have you been getting jerked off by a woman, about to cum any second from her hands, before deciding to take your dick away from her and jerk yourself off for the last half a second to cum from your own hand instead? In what fricking way is that a normal or pleasurable thing to do?
But we're seeing highly professional sex bimbos doing it tho, so of course it needs to be more 'advanced', nobody would buy that a porn prostitute would cum with just one dick in her pussy, so she needs to be getting DPed, peed on and humiliated on camera to feel anything.
And there are no 'best movie sex scenes', there are only hot scenes where actresses are exposed
it's a tricky situation because i still want hot actresses naked, but movie sex scenes are boring, dishonest and agenda-driven (and awkward to see with friends and family). And a big number of people who want to do away with sex scenes would be fine if it was all trannies doing it on camera and zero hot girls
I genuinely find some movie sex scenes to be hotter than porn. The production value is better, the people are often hotter and there is a believable context to the sex rather than just "Cathy Cumguzzler takes a billion wieners part IV: Revelations".
And I know I'm not the only one who thinks this because iconic sex scenes are always brought up as defining moments in people's puberty. The problem for me is if I want to watch porn I want porn, and if I want to watch a thriller, or drama, or romance, or action-adventure, I want those movies without the pointless sex that adds nothing except making me midly horny and distracted from the rest of the film.
I agree with you on all counts there. Sex scenes usually don't add much and often take away from my enjoyment of a film, but they make for better porn than actual porn.
>But we're seeing highly professional sex bimbos doing it tho, so of course it needs to be more 'advanced', nobody would buy that a porn prostitute would cum with just one dick in her pussy, so she needs to be getting DPed, peed on and humiliated on camera to feel anything.
When I watch porn it's because I want to get off by imagining my dick in place of the actor's. You sound like you're watching it as a sporting exhibition. It's so bizarre how people watch porn these days.
well you get older, just imagining your dick in a big titty bimbo while she's getting fricked and she's all dry isn't enough
frick, even watching some generic 18yo onlyfans b***h is boring, I feel it in my bones she's a prostitute since she was a teen so she's way more jaded and calloused than me
I genuinely find some movie sex scenes to be hotter than porn. The production value is better, the people are often hotter and there is a believable context to the sex rather than just "Cathy Cumguzzler takes a billion wieners part IV: Revelations".
And I know I'm not the only one who thinks this because iconic sex scenes are always brought up as defining moments in people's puberty. The problem for me is if I want to watch porn I want porn, and if I want to watch a thriller, or drama, or romance, or action-adventure, I want those movies without the pointless sex that adds nothing except making me midly horny and distracted from the rest of the film.
idk it can be hot because you're seeing someone who isnt supposed to be doing that on camera revealing her sex sounds, hip thrusts, titty shaking etc
but yeah I agree, even generic 'sexy' fan service shots make me bored and think 'stop runing the flow, if i wanted sexy shit i'd watch porn, get on with the movie'
Normal people have sex all the time. It's no big deal. It makes sense that things that happen in real life would happen in movies. Do you also get bothered by scenes where the characters eat, shower, brush their teeth, grocery shop, or drive to work? Everyone fricks sometimes. It seems like a weird thing to be bothered by unless you're an incel.
I jerk off to hentai. I wouldn't want scenes of that in a film I watch, no. It's also normal to shit, and overeat for comfort, and to sit there watching movies. I wouldn't want those things all over films either if they served no purpose.
>no one has sex all the time
If they are in a happy healthy relationship they do. Me and my wife have sex at least 3 times a week.
Maybe the distaste for sex scenes is actually a distaste for close intimate relationship than many young zoomers were deprived of?
they aren't having sex, so seeing others having sex makes them upset
that said, sex scenes are often gratuitous and unnecessary, serving only to try to drag in the coomer demographic
>they aren't having sex, so seeing others having sex makes them upset
I mean this is the root of it
https://i.imgur.com/03k1LYS.png
Why is there this sudden backlash against sex scenes in movies?
The 'is it required for the plot' meme comes from consoomer homosexuals who view film as a thing to mindlessly ingest so they can say they consoomed product and be part of that in-group, or perhaps as a means to stay current with a franchise so they can be part of that ''''fandom''' group.
Sex scenes are an artistic flourish by which a character's mental state and relationships can be expressed, but they don't get this because of the soulless manner of their viewing combined with a broken mental attitude towards sex in general.
If two characters are a couple or there’s an obvious prostitute the audience doesn’t need it’s hand held to know they’re fricking. Those sex scenes are mainly to get the dopamine flowing and there’s nothing wrong with that.
>Sex scenes are an artistic flourish by which a character's mental state and relationships can be expressed
Oh yeah the random one night stand sex scene that has no relevance to the character development is definitely that deep. Fricking moron.
Are you trying to be funny? I don't find what you said to be funny. More like cringe. You are cringey and sad. You also are most likely a virgin because no one would frick someone who talks like this.
This, basically. Sex scenes very rarely add anything to the plot. It’s a way to pad out time and be subversive to the goyim in one fell swoop. It’s sad more of you morons don’t see this. /misc/ wins again, as usual
This guy basically admits it's about sneaking into the goyim mind
>That speaks to how bad the movie is, not to how good the sex scene is.
That’s bad logic, as it could easily speak to both points at the same time. Since you missed this lob, I’ll spell it out further: the sex scene can be great while the movie can be shit i.e. they aren’t necessarily mutually exclusive. There is potential overlap.
It seems you’re arguing against sex in film, which might be why you’re leaning towards confirmation bias. It’s always one of the two: you either don’t know what you’re talking about or you do and you’re lying.
Whatever. I’ve never seen the film, and I couldn’t care less. I’m fine with sex scenes however, as I’m confident with myself as a living being of earth that fricks. Sex is integral to life as we understand it, and therefore it is both natural and expected yo see it reflected in our art for everything that could be. Good, bad, and otherwise. This is to say, I can easily incision a scenario where a moment of sex in cinema doesn’t just make logical sense, it enhances the film by being something more whether that be asking something if the viewer, maybe challenging their preconceived notions of the world, or simply, accidentally opens them up ti some new facet of existence.
It’s not always pretty. It’s not always nice.
It is however.
Get over it. Or don’t.
May people be fricking on film until the stars go to black.
Last note: you should check out Liam Neeson in a movie called “Kinsey.”
No reason.
> it enhances the film by being something more whether that be asking something if the viewer, maybe challenging their preconceived notions of the world, or simply, accidentally opens them up ti some new facet of existence.
This, basically. Sex scenes very rarely add anything to the plot. It’s a way to pad out time and be subversive to the goyim in one fell swoop. It’s sad more of you morons don’t see this. /misc/ wins again, as usual
That has sound underlying logic, that makes a movie your gf wouldn't ever watch a movie you can watch on a date. It's a net positive for both the studios and the audience.
because they are usually shit and just something you have to just sit through
it never actually looks like sex so its just awkward
if you need two characters to have sex for plot reasons then just have the chick take her top off and then cut to the next scene
we'll all get it and not have to waste time with whats usually the worst scene in a movie
the only time sex scenes do what theyre intended is if its intentionally supposed to be off putting and unpleasant
I am not a zoomer or a KHV and I have always hated sex scenes in movies, it more often than not serves no purpose and is shoved in movies for the reasons of sex sells, or to keep women happy.
Im a man if I want to watch sex I will watch porn.
Its the same fricking reason with them shoving in shitty romance stories in sci fi movies, its for women.
>tense, serious movie about the creation of the first nuclear bomb >sex scenes
Why must Holllywood jam this unnecessary filler into places they don't belong?
DON'T YOU GET IT?!
HOW THE FRICK ELSE ARE WE SUPPOSED TO UNDERSTAND THAT THE CHARACTERS ARE IN """""""LOVE"""""" IF WE DON'T FLASH THE WOMAN'S UGLY breasts IN YOUR FACE TO SHOW HOW EMOTIONAL THEIR RELATIONSHIP IS?!?
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WHO THE FRICK IS DOCNOIR_?? WHAT DOC NOIR UNDERSCORE THINKS ABOUT FRICKING SEX SCENES IN MOVIES IS A PROMPT FOR DISCUSSION ON Cinemaphile?? FRICK THIS homosexual EARTH!
OF is "muh female empowerment" in the eyes of progressive feminist doctrine, thus it is halal. Seriously, just interpret prog nonsense through the lense of religious doctrine and it all clicks seamlessly into place. See
Same reason zoomers think dating an 18 y/o is fricked up and Leo is a creep for only dating up to 25: the quintessential American brand of puritan moral panic never went away, it simply changed shape. Where the frick do you think the minds that created the witch trials, red scare, satanic panic, etc went? Nowhere, that still exists in the minds of American women. It just currently takes the form of progressive religious dictums
It all tracks when you consider that. The race hysteria, the sexual dynamics, and especially the trans shit
because they are usually shit and just something you have to just sit through
it never actually looks like sex so its just awkward
if you need two characters to have sex for plot reasons then just have the chick take her top off and then cut to the next scene
we'll all get it and not have to waste time with whats usually the worst scene in a movie
the only time sex scenes do what theyre intended is if its intentionally supposed to be off putting and unpleasant
Sex scenes and nude scenes are just pointless in film and only exists to have nude scenes which are also pointless. I'm glad Hollywood is finally realizing nobody wants to see them
genZ isn't "terrified of sex"-- that's a typical millennial/genX misperception/projection. Zoomers simply shrug it off or embrace it because they are generationally wary of any type of puritanism or extreme fanaticism, which they correctly see as overcompensating and hypocritical.
Same reason zoomers think dating an 18 y/o is fricked up and Leo is a creep for only dating up to 25: the quintessential American brand of puritan moral panic never went away, it simply changed shape. Where the frick do you think the minds that created the witch trials, red scare, satanic panic, etc went? Nowhere, that still exists in the minds of American women. It just currently takes the form of progressive religious dictums
It all tracks when you consider that. The race hysteria, the sexual dynamics, and especially the trans shit
>Muh sock puppets
No better than libs who identify every social media post they disagree with as "muh russian bot." Get real, this nonsense is in the zeitgeist regardless of how much you want to handwave it away as inimportant losers. Don't get me wrong - they ARE - but that's the basic footsoldier of social movements. I mean, consider the le bedroom feminists of the early 2010s. Everyone laughed at them until their unhinged BS became baseline establishment talking points
McCarthy was right about almost everything. The state dept was (and is) full of commies. Hollywood was (and is)full of commies. His only crime was suggesting that having the main organ of mass media and the main organ of foreign policy controlled by people who by definition actively hated America and wished for it's destruction, was an undesirable state of affairs.
A lot of the backlash to the Red Scare came from the fact that the some advocates were accusing top government officials who clearly weren't communist of being such while advocating violently purging America and stockpiling weapons in underground cells. The John Birch Society accused presidents Roosevelt, Truman, Eisenhower, and Kennedy of all being communist agents. They even publicly accused John Foster Dulles, one of the most aggressively anti-communist US senators in history who wanted to go on the offensive against the USSR of being a communist. After the 1958 failed right wing military coup against Charles De Gaulle in France the Eisenhower and Kennedy administrations got worried that far right elements in the US military might try something similar, as they were very recklessly calling presidents communists and for extreme action to purge the country. When Kennedy learned that General Walker, who was commanding units on the West German & East German border, was a John Bircher giving his men JBS materials and lectures about all these presidents and chain of command members being crypto-reds it caused a huge scandal and congressional investigations where Walker doubled down on giving JBS material to soldiers. He then had a mental breakdown and was institutionalized after seeing a black child walk into an integrated school.
When JFK was shot the feds initially suspected Birchers because Dallas was a right wing stronghold, and because the Birchers had this radical paramilitary org spinoff from it called the Minutemen that had about 400 cadre members and stockpiles of M14s, BARs, mortars, etc; all pissed at Kennedy for investigating Walker and calling JFK communist. Those developments convinced a lot of mainstream Republicans and Democrats that the way the Red Scare was conducted was demonizing even anti-communist government officials and creating conditions fostering far right coup risk and that the JBS & co were blackshirts in the making.
most actors have horrible chemistry with each other
like I watched The Glory recently, and the two main actors had negative chemistry, and all of the relationship scenes were godawful to sit through, especially when the show was supposed to be about getting revenge and killing her bullies, not some shitty romance.
Sex scenes that are just thrown in the movie for cheap nudity are always boring and badly done. When the sex scene actually is a contributing part of the storytelling it’s fine because it serves a point.
In an era where you can just look at porn I don’t really see any reason why all movies would have to include frick scenes “just because”.
Films like Nymphomaniac, Shame, Basic Instinct, etc. all have sex scenes because they serve a valid and necessary purpose. Having a frick scene in a slasher movie also serves a genre rooted trope to “punish non-marital sex” and convenient way to kill teenagers in the woods at night. A frick scene in a spy thriller doesn’t often really serve much purpose beyond it being there just because uhhh you have to have a superfluous romantic interest and sex is how you show they’re into each other.
Spy thriller sex scenes are good when they involve the spy character seducing someone for important information, so it has relevance to progressing the plot. That actually happened during the Cold War where both male and female spies would sleep with the enemy to gain intel.
The Americans is a great example of how that trope isn't actually required for the plot and is thrown in for cheap thrills. Half of that show is just the drama and scandal of Keri Russel fricking a bunch of strangers.
10 months ago
Anonymous
Lol what? Did you even watch the show.
10 months ago
Anonymous
Lol what? Did you even watch the show.
I'm the anon he responded to, and I'm kind of on the fence about it. On one hand, yes, it was critical to the plot, telling a story about things that'd actually happen and long cons spies had to do in the Cold War. That's not something touched in media much, and it's interesting. It's also true that it was gratuitous at times, and it did eventually put me off the show.
However, this is ironically because it was so integral to the plot; there may be an interesting, germane thing here. It kind of rode the line, but eventually just felt like NTR shit to me once it clearly got past depicting an interesting spy story, and got on to her wanting to leave him for her old black boyfriend. It just felt gross after a while. Wasn't even a sexist thing, because I was equally disgusted eventually about how he'd been manipulating the office girl as a second wife, though that's even still a more psychologically interesting plot because it's mission-relevant, and he might be seeking what she was denying him of having something that approaches a healthy, loving relationship.
Idk, there's definitely something there that's different in that TV shows are longer form and have more chance to make it relevant, and worry less about the old "show breasts for ticket sales" logic. Another one that's oddly relevant was Black Sails, which very much shoved it in for exploitive GoT-ripoff reasons, but was relevant in showing the decadence of the characters and their times, but also being well-shot and erotically done.
There's a fine line to this shit, and it goes back to the old art vs. porn argument, which this is all a rehash of from a more logical, less outraged biddie way. "You know it when you see it." Sex scenes can be for titillation and be like a car chase, but it has to look good. Most don't. And it can be well-written and relevant, if it isn't clearly just the writer/director's thinly disgused fetish written one-handed, and they were actually trying something.
10 months ago
Anonymous
The whole thing with the old boyfriend was all about her wanting to be with someone she actually loved, and the step in the process to make the main couple grow more close and finalising their commitment and emotional bond with one another as they had going way beyond just being two deep cover spies pretending to be a husband and wife who had to frick couple of times for purely procreation purposes in order to blend in and look like they were your average couple with two kids.
>where both male and female spies would sleep with the enemy to gain intel
99% of that was someone fricking the femcels/incels actually running the offices of intelligence agencies
It’s also because it was largely uneventful or just long term blackmail after the fact stuff that doesn’t make it very cinematic for a movie. The Americans did it pretty well where they have various different assets that they’re seducing, fricking and having relationships with and it’s long term work.
>Films like Nymphomaniac, Shame, Basic Instinct, etc. all have sex scenes because they serve a valid and necessary purpose
those movies are all shit though
porn is a symptom not a cause. It's just another thing sub standard males have had to settle for in life that they want to take from us. They won't be satisfied until we have nothing but wage slaving and respecting women and minorities. Obviously porn is bad but free will isn't real if I never had a gf I literally need to jack off, don't want me watching porn give me some pussy.
it's overused, and especially in movies and shows that dont even know them
it was fun when game of thrones did it in the first couple of seasons, but then the sex just started to be too often and every other show did it as well
It's funny to see Cinemaphile go "NOOOO HECKING DEGENERADO" to sex in media but when a literal who say hecking zoomies dont like it all of a sudden the 30 year old homosexuals who've wasted their youth on this site think it's good, actually. If you reply to me I win the argument btw
This. It's always a good laugh seeing people who shitpost on Cinemaphile as a hobby talking down to other people as degenerates. >b-b-but porn is fricking up your brain
oh boy wait until you realize how much damage Cinemaphile has done to your brain over the years.
Sex scenes rarely add anything to the plot, I can think of maybe two movies off the top of my head where the sex scenes actively added something and where in fact irreplaceable. Another problem is that sex done in Hollywood feels unnatural and mechanical (much like San Fernando Valley porn incidentally) so it really feels like a chore going through it, both for the actors and the spectator.
thats kinda the issue
they have shitty transactional sexual favors for directors/producers they dont want to frick
they dont have actual free association to express intimacy/connection through physical touch, hence all ~~*hollywood*~~ sex scenes are these goofy pants on head moronic disjointed sex no one actually has where people like throw a bunch of shit off a desk or bookshelf and then the guy just shoves it in with no foreplay and somehow both people cum after 2 thrusts and the just nuts inside after said 2 pumps without so much as a warning, just like how the impotent israelite director fricked the lead actress
>Sex scenes rarely add anything to the plot
neither do fight scenes, establishing shots, car chases etc. you could simply skip to the result and the "plot" would be the same. but you don't complain about those, do you, zoomie?
It's funny that you can't even defend sex scenes, you just have to bring down all the other types of scenes instead. You also speak like someone who has absolutely no movie culture. >neither do fight scenes
fight scenes worth their salt are interesting because of their creativity or the quality of the choreography or how humorous they are. If you don't understand why something like vidrel has more value than a 30 seconds shot of an actor awkwardly thrusting his codpiece against the lead actress then you are an absolute moron.
Same goes for car chases. The car chase in Blues Brothers, a five minute long scene making fun of car chases, are iconic. >establishing
Establishing shots are a filming techniques you fricking dumbass, they have no place in this discussion.
You're a simple brained moron.
>If you don't understand why something like vidrel has more value than a 30 seconds shot of an actor awkwardly thrusting his codpiece against the lead actress then you are an absolute moron.
I find this more erotic than the majority of porn tho.
This argument doesn't work when 90% of action scenes are unengaging and derivative as shit, tho. And yeah 90% of sex scenes are stupid as frick but there are good ones there (the sex scene in 300 Rise of an Empire is literally the only remotely entertaining point in the movie).
My point is that being didactic about this tanks your own point. For every scene like the one you posted, there's some shitty 50 cut Liam Neeson fight or an MCU laser showdown. The concept of "2 characters have sex onscreen" is not inherently bad and you can make it engaging.
>(the sex scene in 300 Rise of an Empire is literally the only remotely entertaining point in the movie)
That speaks to how bad the movie is, not to how good the sex scene is. Once again, you can only defend sex scenes by bringing down everything you compare it to. > For every scene like the one you posted, there's some shitty 50 cut Liam Neeson fight or an MCU laser showdown
Your complaint(s) boils down to "Action scenes and car chases are unnecessary because I have an absolutely abhorrent taste in movies.". It's really no wonder that you need some wooden sex act simulacra to entertain yourself
>not to how good the sex scene is.
No, I genuinely think it's a hilarious (and not unintentionally so) scene that manages to tell a lot about the characters and I remember people were laughing about it when we left the theater
Also, no, I never said action scenes and car chases are unnessecary (other guy did), I'm saying that 90% of anything is derivative. If we're using foreign 70s movies as an example of originality like you are with the webm, picrel one with a very famous and well done sex scene that pushed the envelope for the time it came out.
10 months ago
Anonymous
>I'm saying that 90% of anything is derivative
and the relevance of that in this discussion is?
>That speaks to how bad the movie is, not to how good the sex scene is.
That’s bad logic, as it could easily speak to both points at the same time. Since you missed this lob, I’ll spell it out further: the sex scene can be great while the movie can be shit i.e. they aren’t necessarily mutually exclusive. There is potential overlap.
It seems you’re arguing against sex in film, which might be why you’re leaning towards confirmation bias. It’s always one of the two: you either don’t know what you’re talking about or you do and you’re lying.
Whatever. I’ve never seen the film, and I couldn’t care less. I’m fine with sex scenes however, as I’m confident with myself as a living being of earth that fricks. Sex is integral to life as we understand it, and therefore it is both natural and expected yo see it reflected in our art for everything that could be. Good, bad, and otherwise. This is to say, I can easily incision a scenario where a moment of sex in cinema doesn’t just make logical sense, it enhances the film by being something more whether that be asking something if the viewer, maybe challenging their preconceived notions of the world, or simply, accidentally opens them up ti some new facet of existence.
It’s not always pretty. It’s not always nice.
It is however.
Get over it. Or don’t.
May people be fricking on film until the stars go to black.
Last note: you should check out Liam Neeson in a movie called “Kinsey.”
No reason.
>It seems you’re arguing against sex in film
I encourage you to reread (read?) my initial post before you waste time writing your next wall of intellectual farts, you condescending Black person
>That speaks to how bad the movie is, not to how good the sex scene is.
That’s bad logic, as it could easily speak to both points at the same time. Since you missed this lob, I’ll spell it out further: the sex scene can be great while the movie can be shit i.e. they aren’t necessarily mutually exclusive. There is potential overlap.
It seems you’re arguing against sex in film, which might be why you’re leaning towards confirmation bias. It’s always one of the two: you either don’t know what you’re talking about or you do and you’re lying.
Whatever. I’ve never seen the film, and I couldn’t care less. I’m fine with sex scenes however, as I’m confident with myself as a living being of earth that fricks. Sex is integral to life as we understand it, and therefore it is both natural and expected yo see it reflected in our art for everything that could be. Good, bad, and otherwise. This is to say, I can easily incision a scenario where a moment of sex in cinema doesn’t just make logical sense, it enhances the film by being something more whether that be asking something if the viewer, maybe challenging their preconceived notions of the world, or simply, accidentally opens them up ti some new facet of existence.
It’s not always pretty. It’s not always nice.
It is however.
Get over it. Or don’t.
May people be fricking on film until the stars go to black.
Last note: you should check out Liam Neeson in a movie called “Kinsey.”
No reason.
>The concept of "2 characters have sex onscreen" is not inherently bad and you can make it engaging.
I don't see anyone saying sex scenes are inherently bad, just that they rarely serve a purpose to the movie. Whether it be plot advancement or character development.
And, no, that doesn't mean there are NO sex scenes that fit those criteria, just that they generally do not.
Coom-addled trannies just cannot accept the fact that not everyone has their life revolving around sex. This is why they take people criticizing gratuitous sex scenes as a personal attack. It is what it is.
>Coom-addled trannies
Aren't they the ones who hate seeing beautiful women, though, because it reminds them of what they'll never be?
A large part of why you can't even discuss actresses here anymore without the thread getting deleted and everyone in it banned, is because the mods are literal trannies who are mad they'll never look like those actresses.
They're also the loudest about sexy women in video games.
No doubt. It's a weird thing, to be sure. Their whole personalities are wrapped around a sexual fetish, but they also sex, or, hetero sex, at least.
I've literally seen troons say that men finding women attractive should be illegal. Might've been shitposting, though, who knows?
>outed as rapists and sexual pests
Meh female sex pests are pretty typical, we just don't talk about it much. See what female teachers get up to; there is a reason sex abuse is more prevalent in schools than anywhere else and it not the dudes.
It's not puritanical to not want sex shoved in your face in every movie. Why do we have laws that prohibit public sexual acts? Why do we have social norms that you must not expose yourself in public? People have to behave in a civilized way or we're literally debased to the level of animals. Even without being directly shown anything sexual, the male mind is constantly thinking about sex. It is at least distracting and at worst all-consuming. How are people supposed to live, work, raise families, be together with people in a community, if they're consumed by primal urges?
>How are people supposed to live, work, raise families, be together with people in a community, if they're consumed by primal urges?
I do it just fine. Couple off faps during the week as all ya need, but seeing cute girls is still nice.
>why gen z is so terrified of sex.
Well... where do we begin? I'd say growing up in a matriarchy, first and foremost. Being fed a steady diet of #MeToo hysteria during their adolescent years probably didn't help. Then to top it all off, women like Lizzo are held up as a modern sex symbol. Imagine how fricked your head would be under these circumstances. We're not even exploring the fact that they were all forced to wear Bane masks in public settings for a year and a half. That generation has been psychologically tortured through internet neo-liberalism for their entire lives.
because zoomoids are so creeped and/or intimidated by sex they don't have it, don't want to see it, don't want to think about it. 2nd worst generation after boomers.
sexual revolution started up a free market version of sexual relations. few of the guys hoarding up all the pussy. Pussy = labour and they're selling all their labour to chad.
Ultimately, everything in a work of art should "further the plot" -- even slice of life animes understand this. You don't and probably have never created something beautiful in your life. The way sex is used in film now is more akin to what Israel does when it takes over a territory: pumping pornography into the media to demoralize the target audience.
Do movies even have sex scenes anymore? This argument keeps coming up over and over again but the only recent example I can think of with one was Oppenheimer where it lasts 5 seconds and there's nothing erotic about the way it's shot.
Yes, movies still have sex scenes. If you mean are there Basic Instinct type 80s/90s lengthy saxophone accompanied frick scenes, then no. That went out of style couple of decades ago when lengthy sex scenes put into the movie to get horny teenagers to the seats no longer guaranteed ticket sales.
The sex scenes in Oppenheimer were ridiculous and detrimental to the plot >TFW he says the destroyer of worlds quote while shoving his dick in the slampig >When he says the quote again all the pathos is ruined
The scene where he cucks his wife in front of the feds was so corny and surreal too
It's the sort of writing you'd expect from a porn parody
it's really fricking funny when people say "Well I'll just watch porn if I wanna see sex" and then you ask them what porn they watch and it's the most degenerate hardcore shit imaginable and they have to goon for an hour with a deathgrip b4 they cum
Weren't people praising TLOU show for having a gay sex scene? Granted, I don't know how graphic it was, but why was that ok, but regular sex scenes aren't?
BG3 is no different from the older entries except more modern graphics and it uses 5e instead of 2e. The gay shit is the only thing that should turn you off from it
I think people who complain about things in movies, be it sex or violence should have a coke and a smile and shut the frick up.
Nobody, especially artists, have to cater to every seething little pussy who doesn't like what they make and if I was a filmmaker I would put a 10 minute long hardcore sex scene in my next movie just to spite you.
If these complainers had their way the only available entertainment would be Hallmark movies, no sex, no violence, no cursing, no risque jokes, etc...
>I was a filmmaker I would put a 10 minute long hardcore sex scene in my next movie just to spite you.
But you're not. You're just an anonymous moron seething about people seething about movies. It doesn't matter how ridiculous you could paint the people seething at sex scenes in movies, you will always be one step beyond with comments like that. These people are living in your head.
So you're in agreement then, the only movies that should be released are Hallmark movies with no sex, violence, cursing, risque jokes, or anything that might offend people?
Coomers are fragile snowflakes obssesed with ''incels'' or ''puritans''
They will start a thread to discuss their coomerism and when someone criticizes them they seethe that they are being oppressed
It's not enough to coom they have to make sure everyone is praising them for it
I think deep down they feel guilty or something
The thing is, I am somewhat of a coomer myself, there is nothing I love more than beating my meat to a beautiful woman pretending to suck my dick in POV. But that's just that, it's porn, which I consume whenever I feel like jerking off. I don't see the point in putting that in a normal movie. And I certainly don't see the point in getting mad over people pointing this out. There is is weird subset of people who can not compartmentalize and feel attacked when you say that sex scenes belong in porn.
>There is is weird subset of people who can not compartmentalize and feel attacked when you say that sex scenes belong in porn.
Those are usually the same posters who supposedly have sex and have a seething hatred of people who don't for some reason
Honestly i think at least some of these people have issues with guilt
They can't really quit being coomers and they can't stop feeling bad about it
So they start to hate anyone who makes them feel guilty
wouldn't it be simpler for you to just have sex instead of trying to impose your preferences on a piece of mass entertainment designed to appeal to millions of people?
The one in Oppenheimer specifically showed how Opp's wife had to imagine him there with another woman in front of her and all the people watching as he recounts his affair to the committee. It shows how savage the interrogation was on both of them and makes it even more impressive that she never flips on Oppenheimer at the end. But that's a rare example. Truthfully the vast majority of sex scenes are just there to add cheap excitement and drama to a film, like a flashy car, or a casino scene, it's purely superficial.
In Alice Darling the sex scenes are showcasing how Anna Kendrick’s character is always pressured to be the submissive and compliant to the needs and demands of her mentally and emotionally abusive toxic boyfriend. She never initiates the sex in the relationship, it like everything else is always about serving his needs, while never caring about what she thinks or wants.
The pretense of having sex scenes is a director having honest art yet we never seen a scene of how the woman gets super wet on a rapist's wiener and she feels embarassed and cums even harder by looking at how she left the wiener full of juices
Because it’s so out of place and unnecessary.
Zoomers are finding out that boomers and specially boomer directors were all just a bunch of perverts that abuse their positions of power. (And it’s true).
There was never a need for any sex scenes ever, it’s there because they’re pervs.
>There was never a need for any sex scenes ever,
Arguably there was more reason in the boomer/gen X eras because there was no internet porn. Nor were TV shows and movies so freely available. Now the world is saturated with both, people are getting sick of the same pointless sex scenes in non-pornographic media.
"Why do so many TV shows contain unnecessary and gratuitious sex scenes?" is a perfectly valid question.
I've noticed no one in this thread has actually tried to defend these sex scenes on artistic grounds, instead going on a bizarre "damn kids these days" tangent which reads like it belongs in the comments section of a Daily Mail article than on Cinemaphile.
Sex scenes in art and film are a natural push of the first amendment. We live in a free society and thus are allowed to witness and partake in freedom of speech. Zoomers hate freedom of speech and only want to control others actions using speech crimes. They’re anti enlightenment and anti American. I blame the affinity for muzzies.
I hated how there was so many graphic sex scenes in game of thrones. Designed to get morons into the show. The books did not even even have that much sex or nudity
You're wrong. There was more sex in the books than in the show. I can think of several sex scenes from the book that were never included in the show. Like Tyrion's wiener being out in front of Sansa and rock hard. Cersei's explicit lesbian scene in the book that isn't shown. Daenerys' dress where one of her breasts is visible and on display that her actress refused to wear. The show is very toned down. Not to mention broad censorship like Daenerys being a pubescent teen in the books but an adult woman in the show.
I didn't see later episodes but I'm guessing they also censored the scenes of Yara's rape fetish where she enjoys being raped in bed by her friends.
>The books did not even even have that much sex or nudity
they actually had more, particularly from main characters. the show farms most of it out to porn actresses with no lines.
Now that I think about it, my favorite sex scene in the book is missing from the show, and god would I have paid anything for it to be depicted: Cersei giving Robert a blowjob and then, after he falls back to pass out, she furiously licks her fingers and swallows his semen out of anger out of the fantasy that she's murdering his heirs by devouring his semen.
Yes I am sure Loras Tyrell & his homosexual squire along with Renly being nude & having gay sex at every opportunity was 100% canon in the books
That's not what I asked. Did you read the books or not? The answer is obviously no.
10 months ago
Anonymous
I read the books before the show was even a fever dream. Just admit Renly & Loras sex scenes were put into to appeal to the normalgays to get them into the shitshow too
10 months ago
Anonymous
I don't believe that you did or I believe that you read them so long ago that you essentially remember nothing about them. There are relationships in the book that are heavily implied(like Loras and Renly) that are more openly shown in the show and there are other relationships and sexual implications(even gay ones, like Cersei and her "Myrish Swamp" lady, or the Blackfish) that are omitted even though they existed in the books.
The original assertion that there were more sex scenes in the show was wrong and now you deflecting to this non-point of them deciding to openly show Loras and Renly's relationship rather than have it alluded to is just irrelevant nothing. They make repeated reference to it in the books and various characters make japes to Renly about what a sword swallowing gay he is. They just depicted it openly rather than having it tongue in cheek.
10 months ago
Anonymous
>Tyrion's wiener being out in front of Sansa and rock hard >Cersei's explicit lesbian scene in the book that isn't shown >Daenerys' dress where one of her breasts is visible and on display that her actress refused to wear
None of these are graphic sex, only sexual acts. I know you are too sheltered & virginal to understand the difference.
>heavily implied
Implying? NGMI if not explicitly stated, it is your fanfic headcanon
>depicted it openly rather than having it tongue in cheek
So you are saying D&D are talentless hack frauds? Got it
10 months ago
Anonymous
>None of these are graphic sex, only sexual acts. I know you are too sheltered & virginal to understand the difference.
First, the original post said:
>The books did not even even have that much sex or nudity >or nudity
So my response with the nudity examples was appropriate. Second, you have definitively proven that you never read the books. Cersei's lesbian sex scene is graphic and you wouldn't have forgotten it if you had read them. It is a full graphic sex scene, full through to orgasm.
You are desperately flailing and grasping at straws at this point. Just stop posting and accept the L here. You didn't read the books and it's beyond obvious you have no clue what you're talking about.
10 months ago
Anonymous
The books are over 5000 pages, what percentage of the total is devoted to nudity & sex? Now compare the series. How much runtime is devoted to sex, nudity or talking about sex?
Also female lesbians are larpers they lack the organs for true sex unlike males & GRRM gets a chubby while writing them in all his stories
>Desperately flailing and grasping at straws at this point
You have to go back
>The books did not even even have that much sex or nudity
they actually had more, particularly from main characters. the show farms most of it out to porn actresses with no lines.
Now that I think about it, my favorite sex scene in the book is missing from the show, and god would I have paid anything for it to be depicted: Cersei giving Robert a blowjob and then, after he falls back to pass out, she furiously licks her fingers and swallows his semen out of anger out of the fantasy that she's murdering his heirs by devouring his semen.
sex scenes in movies always grossed me out
I despise listening to people breathing heavily and kissing, and watching them rub their stupid bodies against each other is vomit-inducing >t. millennial who still jerks off to softcore porn
This is part of it. I'm of two minds on the subject, but it's odd because people are simultaneously going "why do we even have sex scenes?" for legitimate reasons, while the main big films these days are entirely disingenuous, sexless pieces missing real human ethos coming from an entirely different angle, and I don't like that either. There's a great article about this - "Everyone Is Beautiful and No One Is Horny"
>main big films these days are entirely disingenuous, sexless pieces missing real human ethos coming from an entirely different angle
You might sort of have a point with movies
Most shows on streaming are full of pointless depraved sex though
I'm perfectly happy with sex scenes that serve some kind of artistic purpose like developing a character or theme in a movie. It's just that the vast majority of them do not. Case in point
this never happens to you?
is the quintessential modern sex scene. Barely any dialogue followed by predictable jump cut to mid-fricking, adding absolutely nothing to the plot except providing some thrilling taboo for people who have fantasized casual sex with a stranger. That's what most sex scenes are. Cheap thrills. Slop.
>I'm perfectly happy with films that serve some kind of artistic purpose like studying a character or portraying a theme. It's just that the vast majority of them do not. Case in point, the last 15 years of capeshit is the quintessential modern film. Barely any nuance followed by predictable quip to cgi-action, adding absolutely nothing to the plot except providing some thrilling explosions for the adhd-riddled masses who spend all their time on their phones. That's what most films are. Cheap thrills. Slop.
ftfy
I'm surprised nobody has mentioned "the beautiful ones" experiment yet in this thread in relation to both modern society and how these films are depicted. It is uncanny how accurately human sexual behavior has mimicked the experiment over the past 50 years.
no time, thread about to die google it, i promise it is worth it. rats mimick current human sexual behavior as they get increasingly comfortable society
Wrong. Ask Cinemaphile if they think lefties are "sex positive". Right wing coomers are ironically sex positive and they constantly whine about liberals censoring sex like puritans.
Sex positivity means more than just placating horny coomers
} >Lefitst dislike some coomerbait vidya they think is sexist so they are puritans
Leftoids love sex, the more depraved the better
Obscenity laws were repealed by the leftist lobby, Leftists want to teach about sex in schools
Most movies with sex scenes are directed by leftists
You guys are just wrong. There are leftists who are both sex positive and sex negative and they tend to go to extremes and it depends entirely on the subject. They will, on one hand, promote extreme pornography, prostitution, and women affirming themselves with any kind of sexual expression, but they conversely are against any depiction in media of women as sexually attractive characters and will constantly censor them in films and video games. Saying that they are ALWAYS in favor of more sex is incorrect. They're in favor of sex as long as it is empowering to women in their view. They are not in favor of sex that favors men.
} >Lefitst dislike some coomerbait vidya they think is sexist so they are puritans
Leftoids love sex, the more depraved the better
Obscenity laws were repealed by the leftist lobby, Leftists want to teach about sex in schools
Most movies with sex scenes are directed by leftists
I genuinely wouldn't care. Action scenes are honestly useless fluff to me at this point too other than their conclusions. People suck at writing significant action or well choreographed scenes where the fighting actually matters. It's either some nonsense where two guys fighting have superhuman ability to withstand blows or two giant innumerable armies just win whenever the scene is over.
Unless a movie was showing actual tactics used and was able to showcase how a battle was tactically won, it's effectively not very important. Braveheart would be an example of a film that has battle elements that play into the story(like the nobles deciding to accept buyouts and leave the field, or the king using conscripts and friendly fire to ensure victory)
at least with fighting people are honest that they actually want to see people beat the shit out of eachother.
With sex is always some contrived 2deep4u reasoning that's used to justify it.
As a guy I enjoy graphic fight scenes but if you asked a female-dominated audience I bet they'd be completely happy with this. Personally, if a sex scene doesn't have any purpose in the movie, all it does is make me wanna jerk off but I can't because I'm surrounded by people.
Because modern day actresses can't fricking act. Modern day writers can't fricking write. And modern day directors have no idea how to actually direct.
You see better camera work and storytelling in amateur porn videos being sold on onlyfans.
So they invent this rediculous justification as to why consenting adults can't do simulated sex scenes because muh male gaze muh sexualization muh muh muh.
TL;DR: they lack the talent to create something so they just continue to push out slop hoping the audience is dumb enough to like it.
It has way more to do with studios wanting to make movies as mainstream and safe for everyone as possible in order to maximise profits.
People like this who think all actors, writers and directors can’t do anything right anymore don’t watch anything but mainstream blockbuster garbage and fail to understand those projects are done for money and they are controlled by the studio. If you want something different you have to watch small budget indy movies where people have the freedom to do what they want within their budgets.
Stop watching MCU and Fast and Furious movies and start paying attention to what is happening in the low budget independent market that gets no real coverage outside of festivals.
It's 2-fold. >Zoomers have a terrible relationship with sex >Zoomers believe that governments/institutions should be allowed to dictate how people express themselves
Both are really worrying.
Unless the movie is about romance or sexuality, sex scenes are fricking pointless.
And these random sex scenes make it real fricking awkward to watch movies with your family.
/tv/ >Stop being afraid of sex in media!
also Cinemaphile >AAAAAAIEEEE THESE UNATTRACTIVE PEOPLE ARE HAVING SEX IN MY MEDIA SHUT IT DOWN THE WEST HAS FALLEN
Why can't you losers just watch porn?
zoomies only associate nudity with porn.
case in point.
They don't have sex in real life so they can't stand to see it on a screen without associating it instantly with porn. Any normal person who actually has sex just sees it for it is. Another part of the movie where the characters are expressing themselves like normal people.
>Any normal person who actually has sex just sees it for it is.
Bingo.
Then explain why it has to be graphic instead of the classic fade to black? Just watch porn you coomer.
No one has been able to answer this question to this day. The only argument in favor is that "sex is normal". So is eating, that doesn't mean I want to look at someone munching on a steak for an entire minute.
>cue in morons bringing up all the scenes that take place in a restaurant
those are obviously vehicles to carry a conversation between characters, I'm talking about a scene where it's nothing but a close-up of someone chewing a steak with his mouth open
its just sex though. why does it make you so butthurt?
if you were a starving man and you were constantly shown pictures of food, wouldn't it make you a bit upset?
just dont watch movies with sex scenes then or stop being a little b***h lmao
>Just don't watch it
That's rich coming from the guy who deliberately entered a thread discussing sex scenes just to complain that there are people disagreeing with him
So it is just zoomers being bitter?
>The only argument in favor is that "sex is normal"
>cue in moron saying just that
the only thing that makes me butthurt are the monkeys who can not physicallycome up with an answer beyond "it's just sex bro" anytime you try to challenge their world view, proving ultimately that trying to reason with a coomer is pointless.
You are just proving his point
>good analogy to compare sex scenes
Yea I forgot how much emotion and crossing of boundaries is needed to eat fricking beans on toast.
That is probably because the food from your country is repulsive.
Do you orgasm and have empathy and attachment to your food? You might just be a fatty anon
No but then again I don't orgasm when watching a sex scene either because I can go five minutes without my hand on my dick
Low virility cuck
Lmao if it helps you sleep better at night, sure.
Because sex is an intimate act between two people. If done well it can convey how the characters actually feel about each other, the purpose of their sexual encounter, experience/anxieties regarding sex, and build a deeper bond than just a kiss on the cheek.
Example: The sex might be simply a quick my meant to relieve tension, maybe one of the characters shows more affection to the other than they do to them.
>cut to black
Or just skip it if it makes you feel uncomfortable sperg. The only time I agree with such things if it is added for the sole purpose of adding sex and filler. Especially when the initiation of the intimate act makes no sense.
Add to that the fact the zoomers are a generation that is actually asking the previous generation to shelter them from the outside world.
That's why everything need to caution disclamer on every piece off intertaiment. Hell, in my country a class of zoomer in art degree was supposed to do a work on a movie with a rape scene. They all refused to see the movie and complained that showing the movie was enforcing rape culture.
Teenager are supposed to have a rebellious phase against the rule of their parents not asking them to keep them in a sanitized and childish environment.
>Teenager are supposed to have a rebellious phase
Media psyop that started with boomers
I just meant that come with the process of puberty not that parent should allow them to do everything they want and become a failure.
are zoomers unable to distinguish between fiction and reality? it's the same way you can't have a character act bigoted now without the work itself being deemed problematic
>are zoomers unable to distinguish between fiction and reality?
Well, not just zoomers.
Because everyone took the "everything is politic" meme without understanding what it meant.
"Everything is politic" mean that every fictionnal creation is influenced by it's author view/opinion and the time and place he live (like during the Cold War where vilain were often Soviet Union/Commies reference or Lord of the RIng being inspired by European folklore and Tolkien life experience in WW1).
To them it's mean everything is political propaganda and if everything is propaganda, it's must be the "right propaganda" and if it's not the case it's bad propaganda and must be removed.
>Teenager are supposed to have a rebellious phase against the rule of their parents
Someone actually wrote a pretty good rebuttal to this idea:
"I'm suspicious of this theory that thirteen-year-old kids are intrinsically messed up. If it's physiological, it should be universal. Are Mongol nomads all nihilists at thirteen? I've read a lot of history, and I have not seen a single reference to this supposedly universal fact before the twentieth century.
In pre-industrial times, teenagers were all apprentices of one sort or another, whether in shops or on farms or even on warships. They weren't left to create their own societies. They were junior members of adult societies.
Teenagers seem to have respected adults more then, because the adults were the visible experts in the skills they were trying to learn. Now most kids have little idea what their parents do in their distant offices, and see no connection (indeed, there is precious little) between schoolwork and the work they'll do as adults.
And if teenagers respected adults more, adults also had more use for teenagers. After a couple years' training, an apprentice could be a real help. Even the newest apprentice could be made to carry messages or sweep the workshop.
Now adults have no immediate use for teenagers. They would be in the way in an office. So they drop them off at school on their way to work, much as they might drop the dog off at a kennel if they were going away for the weekend."
>Teenagers seem to have respected adults more then
You were forced to start working as a child to support yourself and/or your family. “Respect of your elders” was just hierarchical thing where you had to take shit from older people with more power and then you wanted to repeat the abuse to younger people when you gained power. It had nothing to do with “oh wowie wow you are such an expert, older person!” unless the older person was literally teaching you things you found interesting and wasn’t an butthole to you.
This post is stupid and historically inaccurate. The guy you replied to was completely correct.
>Teenager are supposed to have a rebellious phase against the rule of their parents
Technically they are doing that by resisting what we found normal.
boring fake sex
Us losers are the ones complaining.
Why can’t I have feature length porn movies? Stop stifling my creativity, man!
Sex scenes are at their best when they are important plot moments in and of themselves.
Watch Joone’s Pirates XXX series
Unironically some of the most kino porno films ever made. They were so well made an R-rated cut was produced for normies.
>Sex scenes are at their best when they are important plot moments in and of themselves.
You're right. But more of then than not, they aren't and are pure fanservice for the male gaze.
If that's what you want, fine. But you'd just spend your time more productively watching porn.
I can kind of agree with the fanservice point, but I do think purely fanservice sex scenes can work if the film itself is a kind of artistic/arthouse piece that uses the fanservice as a vehicle for helping the audience tolerate/take in the deeper themes. Like how a teacher will sometimes use jokes to both help students get through a boring lecture and understand the material.
Aeon Flux is one example I can think of.
Based MAGA patriot
This is conservapedia approved redpill kino
>https://www.conservapedia.com/Essay:Greatest_Conservative_Movies
>This action-adventure extols the virtues of conservative law and order, following the journey of man tasked with hunting (liberal) pirates.
>Many of the lessons are analogous to the struggle against the lawless antifa of today.
>The movie explores, in great detail, the trap of lust and morally loose women.
>It is in many ways a warning for what may become if we abandon Judeo-Christian family values and cave to liberal immorality -- sex-crazed women and endless orgies.
The uncut version of Salon Kitty is over 2 hours long.
>Salon Kitty
>Ingrid Thulin is in it
uuuuh is this going to ruin Winter Light for me?
convince jane levy or kristen stewart to star in a bang bus episode and i will
~~*bang bus*~~ is shit
kristen stewart in strapon squad
because moron zoomies
are so mindfricked by porn they uncomfortable by the mere thought of sex outside that
Why can't you just read a book, stupid?
more frigid karens discovered social media
frigid karen
Why can’t prudish freaks just make their own puritanical films?
Just like my animes.
prudes enjoy inserting themselves in other people's business
>deliberately starts a thread discussing ''puritans''
>''puritans'' show up and voice their opinion
>REEE HOW DARE YOU NOT BE HORNY!
>THOSE DAMN ZOOMERS WILL TAKE AWAY OUR TITTY MAGS!
>OH THE HUMANITY!
Why are coomers so fragile?
They know they are wrong but that is not their priority. They operate on pursuit of social security via adherence to consensus, which has commanded their habits, addictions, and inhibitions, which means that people who are right are the enemy and threaten their sense of social security within the group, and more superficially, their sense of personal security regarding access to addictive materials.
Also I love seeing people calling teenagers and young adults "puritans" outside of /misc/ where these people feel it is safe to complain in plain terms instead of having to deny all reality. Like the same people calling zoomers puritans will go and pretend gen-z is religiously and uniformly devoted to having butt sex with different races, for the sake of razzing chuds.
I hate sex scenes in movies and I have a wife and a sex life. They are just awkward and a waste of time. Watching the characters hump is not equivalent to having sex. Coomer brains constantly reveal the level of harm their livestyles has done to them when they draw statements regarding negative reaction to the programming.
This.
>Start a thread on a imageboard to complain that other people don't enjoy the same things as you
>Those people inevitably show up and argue with you
>Cry that you are being oppresed and that this is not their business
The coomer cries out as he strikes you
monopolies
I am neither a puritan nor a coomer, but I can at least understand the reasoning behind being the former. People who want more sex in everything just because are just shady.
But they are. Why can’t coomers just stick to watching softcore skinemax flicks?
They hated him because he told them the truth.
Have sex, we are watching fiction.
The unironic answer is that some want to see a thing they like (i.e. porn) in a setting outside of its usual context (a porn website/mag/etc.). For example, a person could enjoy a hard drug like cocaine and also enjoy a more socially acceptable drug like caffeine, because it gives a similar experience in a different context. I don’t see anything wrong with it, coom has been a powerful driving force for creativity since the grug times.
Bingo. I like breasts. And living at the beach affords me plenty of chances to see girls in thongs and bikinis. I'd argue it's way better than looking at them on a phone or a computer monitor.
Kinda the same with movies.
Why can't people who enjoy violent movies just watch snuff?
why are you talking about something else?
I don’t watch porn because I’m not evil
>is that.... sex appeal?
>ew, just go jerk off to hardcore pornography instead like a normal person
>Ewww what kind of weirdo jerk offs to porn alone
>Just whip out your dick at the movie theater like a normal person
Sex scenes in movies are more realistic than porn. The vast majority of porn is weird hardcore fetishized shit where nobody behaves remotely naturally. Women constantly screaming at the top of their lungs, making weird nasal noises, seething through their gritted teeth, making anime faces, trying to make as many different facial expressions as they can in any given moment, doing sex positions that are performative to the camera like a choreographed gymnastics routine and nothing like actual sex, gaping buttholes, ruined orgasms, dudes getting rimmed. There's good porn out there featuring normal hot sex with normal hot women but it's hard to find within the sea of weird stuff that comes across as a parody of real sex.
And perhaps the most egregious example is how guys always have to pull out and jerk themselves off in every single video. Honestly, how many times have you been getting jerked off by a woman, about to cum any second from her hands, before deciding to take your dick away from her and jerk yourself off for the last half a second to cum from your own hand instead? In what fricking way is that a normal or pleasurable thing to do?
This is a fantastic argument for why porn needs to be better, so it can compete with the best movie sex scenes. But it doesn't address the problem that most non-pornographic movies do not need sex scenes and the sex scenes contribute no artistic value.
But we're seeing highly professional sex bimbos doing it tho, so of course it needs to be more 'advanced', nobody would buy that a porn prostitute would cum with just one dick in her pussy, so she needs to be getting DPed, peed on and humiliated on camera to feel anything.
And there are no 'best movie sex scenes', there are only hot scenes where actresses are exposed
it's a tricky situation because i still want hot actresses naked, but movie sex scenes are boring, dishonest and agenda-driven (and awkward to see with friends and family). And a big number of people who want to do away with sex scenes would be fine if it was all trannies doing it on camera and zero hot girls
I genuinely find some movie sex scenes to be hotter than porn. The production value is better, the people are often hotter and there is a believable context to the sex rather than just "Cathy Cumguzzler takes a billion wieners part IV: Revelations".
And I know I'm not the only one who thinks this because iconic sex scenes are always brought up as defining moments in people's puberty. The problem for me is if I want to watch porn I want porn, and if I want to watch a thriller, or drama, or romance, or action-adventure, I want those movies without the pointless sex that adds nothing except making me midly horny and distracted from the rest of the film.
I agree with you on all counts there. Sex scenes usually don't add much and often take away from my enjoyment of a film, but they make for better porn than actual porn.
>But we're seeing highly professional sex bimbos doing it tho, so of course it needs to be more 'advanced', nobody would buy that a porn prostitute would cum with just one dick in her pussy, so she needs to be getting DPed, peed on and humiliated on camera to feel anything.
When I watch porn it's because I want to get off by imagining my dick in place of the actor's. You sound like you're watching it as a sporting exhibition. It's so bizarre how people watch porn these days.
well you get older, just imagining your dick in a big titty bimbo while she's getting fricked and she's all dry isn't enough
frick, even watching some generic 18yo onlyfans b***h is boring, I feel it in my bones she's a prostitute since she was a teen so she's way more jaded and calloused than me
idk it can be hot because you're seeing someone who isnt supposed to be doing that on camera revealing her sex sounds, hip thrusts, titty shaking etc
but yeah I agree, even generic 'sexy' fan service shots make me bored and think 'stop runing the flow, if i wanted sexy shit i'd watch porn, get on with the movie'
All these replies are me btw
Coomers seething.
Normal people have sex all the time. It's no big deal. It makes sense that things that happen in real life would happen in movies. Do you also get bothered by scenes where the characters eat, shower, brush their teeth, grocery shop, or drive to work? Everyone fricks sometimes. It seems like a weird thing to be bothered by unless you're an incel.
I jerk off to hentai. I wouldn't want scenes of that in a film I watch, no. It's also normal to shit, and overeat for comfort, and to sit there watching movies. I wouldn't want those things all over films either if they served no purpose.
No, people don't have sex all the time you filthy coomer.
>no one has sex all the time
If they are in a happy healthy relationship they do. Me and my wife have sex at least 3 times a week.
Maybe the distaste for sex scenes is actually a distaste for close intimate relationship than many young zoomers were deprived of?
Ah, here we go. The good ol' totally-real-wife story
If she isn’t real I may need to start taking my meds again… but than she will be gone..
do you have a single argument beyond people have sex all the time?
Normal people shit all the time too, so where's the shit mr. weinstein, WHERE IS THE SHITTING
Unironically more films need to show the actors taking gassy dumps for realisms sake
Dumb and Dumber
Austin Powers
True Lies
American Pie
Friday
>have sex all the time
Imagine he having butt sex while typing his post.
they aren't having sex, so seeing others having sex makes them upset
that said, sex scenes are often gratuitous and unnecessary, serving only to try to drag in the coomer demographic
>they aren't having sex, so seeing others having sex makes them upset
I mean this is the root of it
The 'is it required for the plot' meme comes from consoomer homosexuals who view film as a thing to mindlessly ingest so they can say they consoomed product and be part of that in-group, or perhaps as a means to stay current with a franchise so they can be part of that ''''fandom''' group.
Sex scenes are an artistic flourish by which a character's mental state and relationships can be expressed, but they don't get this because of the soulless manner of their viewing combined with a broken mental attitude towards sex in general.
>Sex scenes are an artistic flourish by which a character's mental state and relationships can be expressed
But usually they are put in movies because an executive demanded there to be naked breasts and ass
If two characters are a couple or there’s an obvious prostitute the audience doesn’t need it’s hand held to know they’re fricking. Those sex scenes are mainly to get the dopamine flowing and there’s nothing wrong with that.
>Sex scenes are an artistic flourish by which a character's mental state and relationships can be expressed
Oh yeah the random one night stand sex scene that has no relevance to the character development is definitely that deep. Fricking moron.
It's astroturfed
Did you learn a new word in school, today timmy?
Maybe you should go back to school to learn proper punctuation, homosexual.
>Let Director Schlomo put graphic sex scenes in movies and don't EVER critique the quality of his art!
>Anti semitism
*Yawn*
Here comes /misc/ to ruin the thread
>ITS DA POOOOOOOOOL
Are you trying to be funny? I don't find what you said to be funny. More like cringe. You are cringey and sad. You also are most likely a virgin because no one would frick someone who talks like this.
I can just tell this anon doesn't get any sex lol
You are such a pathetic buzzkill. Nobody thinks you're funny
Cringe
Man, you shouldn't post anymore. Your humor isn't very funny.
It’s true they put breasts in a holocaust flick and hays code was no more
>All these seething replies
You nailed it on the head
>all these replies
The shills are out in full force today
Also it's true so
This, basically. Sex scenes very rarely add anything to the plot. It’s a way to pad out time and be subversive to the goyim in one fell swoop. It’s sad more of you morons don’t see this. /misc/ wins again, as usual
This guy basically admits it's about sneaking into the goyim mind
> it enhances the film by being something more whether that be asking something if the viewer, maybe challenging their preconceived notions of the world, or simply, accidentally opens them up ti some new facet of existence.
>all the seethe
kek jidf working overtime today i see
apt utterances amigos!
>Why is there a sudden backlash from a twitter user with 1,539 followers
Because it's a sockpuppet account for an NPC?
I'm more annoyed by the forced romantic interest in a movie that would have been much better without
That has sound underlying logic, that makes a movie your gf wouldn't ever watch a movie you can watch on a date. It's a net positive for both the studios and the audience.
not if i don't have a gf like
pic rel
>your gf
My what?
>Wanting your gf to fantasize about romance with another man
That is 99% of anime.
Movies don't do it as much
It reminds me of what I’m not having.
How? How dude? How????
You know, because it gives me a boner and stuff.
I would be happy to have sex with you.
I fell for that in Las Vegas and I’m not falling for that line again.
At least you admit it. But we're not removing nudity because it triggers you. That's leftist bullshit.
I don’t really mind them but a lot of that stuff can be implied without having to show penis in vegana.
I am not a zoomer or a KHV and I have always hated sex scenes in movies, it more often than not serves no purpose and is shoved in movies for the reasons of sex sells, or to keep women happy.
Im a man if I want to watch sex I will watch porn.
Its the same fricking reason with them shoving in shitty romance stories in sci fi movies, its for women.
Just because you're not a khv doesn't mean anything. More than likely you're not having sex now which is why it pisses you off.
>always hated sex scenes
>only now do I hate them
No anon, most of the time they simply serve no purpose.
>tense, serious movie about the creation of the first nuclear bomb
>sex scenes
Why must Holllywood jam this unnecessary filler into places they don't belong?
DON'T YOU GET IT?!
HOW THE FRICK ELSE ARE WE SUPPOSED TO UNDERSTAND THAT THE CHARACTERS ARE IN """""""LOVE"""""" IF WE DON'T FLASH THE WOMAN'S UGLY breasts IN YOUR FACE TO SHOW HOW EMOTIONAL THEIR RELATIONSHIP IS?!?
STOP ASKING QUESTIONS I'M A GOOD DIRECTOR I'M NOT USING THE OPPORTUNITY TO RECREATE MY FETISHES STOP STOP STOP SHUT UUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUP
Sex scenes don't belong in any film except porn films.
WHO THE FRICK IS DOCNOIR_?? WHAT DOC NOIR UNDERSCORE THINKS ABOUT FRICKING SEX SCENES IN MOVIES IS A PROMPT FOR DISCUSSION ON Cinemaphile?? FRICK THIS homosexual EARTH!
Gen Z are either homosexuals or "asexual" puritans who cry that everything is problematic
Which is so weird given how so many of their girls are on OF.
OF is "muh female empowerment" in the eyes of progressive feminist doctrine, thus it is halal. Seriously, just interpret prog nonsense through the lense of religious doctrine and it all clicks seamlessly into place. See
because they are usually shit and just something you have to just sit through
it never actually looks like sex so its just awkward
if you need two characters to have sex for plot reasons then just have the chick take her top off and then cut to the next scene
we'll all get it and not have to waste time with whats usually the worst scene in a movie
the only time sex scenes do what theyre intended is if its intentionally supposed to be off putting and unpleasant
I really wanna trip this b***h in the street and have her not realize it was on purpose
Sex scenes and nude scenes are just pointless in film and only exists to have nude scenes which are also pointless. I'm glad Hollywood is finally realizing nobody wants to see them
genZ isn't "terrified of sex"-- that's a typical millennial/genX misperception/projection. Zoomers simply shrug it off or embrace it because they are generationally wary of any type of puritanism or extreme fanaticism, which they correctly see as overcompensating and hypocritical.
Same reason zoomers think dating an 18 y/o is fricked up and Leo is a creep for only dating up to 25: the quintessential American brand of puritan moral panic never went away, it simply changed shape. Where the frick do you think the minds that created the witch trials, red scare, satanic panic, etc went? Nowhere, that still exists in the minds of American women. It just currently takes the form of progressive religious dictums
It all tracks when you consider that. The race hysteria, the sexual dynamics, and especially the trans shit
>Same reason zoomers think dating an 18 y/o is fricked up and Leo is a creep for only dating up to 25:
Because it's sockpuppet accounts trying to push this thought process?
>Muh sock puppets
No better than libs who identify every social media post they disagree with as "muh russian bot." Get real, this nonsense is in the zeitgeist regardless of how much you want to handwave it away as inimportant losers. Don't get me wrong - they ARE - but that's the basic footsoldier of social movements. I mean, consider the le bedroom feminists of the early 2010s. Everyone laughed at them until their unhinged BS became baseline establishment talking points
So yes, you agree it's sock puppets by people in the media to push a narrative.
>red scare
McCarthy was right about almost everything. The state dept was (and is) full of commies. Hollywood was (and is)full of commies. His only crime was suggesting that having the main organ of mass media and the main organ of foreign policy controlled by people who by definition actively hated America and wished for it's destruction, was an undesirable state of affairs.
A lot of the backlash to the Red Scare came from the fact that the some advocates were accusing top government officials who clearly weren't communist of being such while advocating violently purging America and stockpiling weapons in underground cells. The John Birch Society accused presidents Roosevelt, Truman, Eisenhower, and Kennedy of all being communist agents. They even publicly accused John Foster Dulles, one of the most aggressively anti-communist US senators in history who wanted to go on the offensive against the USSR of being a communist. After the 1958 failed right wing military coup against Charles De Gaulle in France the Eisenhower and Kennedy administrations got worried that far right elements in the US military might try something similar, as they were very recklessly calling presidents communists and for extreme action to purge the country. When Kennedy learned that General Walker, who was commanding units on the West German & East German border, was a John Bircher giving his men JBS materials and lectures about all these presidents and chain of command members being crypto-reds it caused a huge scandal and congressional investigations where Walker doubled down on giving JBS material to soldiers. He then had a mental breakdown and was institutionalized after seeing a black child walk into an integrated school.
When JFK was shot the feds initially suspected Birchers because Dallas was a right wing stronghold, and because the Birchers had this radical paramilitary org spinoff from it called the Minutemen that had about 400 cadre members and stockpiles of M14s, BARs, mortars, etc; all pissed at Kennedy for investigating Walker and calling JFK communist. Those developments convinced a lot of mainstream Republicans and Democrats that the way the Red Scare was conducted was demonizing even anti-communist government officials and creating conditions fostering far right coup risk and that the JBS & co were blackshirts in the making.
>He then had a mental breakdown and was institutionalized after seeing a black child walk into an integrated school
He's literally me
most actors have horrible chemistry with each other
like I watched The Glory recently, and the two main actors had negative chemistry, and all of the relationship scenes were godawful to sit through, especially when the show was supposed to be about getting revenge and killing her bullies, not some shitty romance.
>actors awkwardly rubbing against each other is muh art
It’s entertainment for women.
women don't like sex scenes unless its 50 shades of gray
75% of twitter posts/retweets/likes come from 3% of users, who are women
Sex scenes that are just thrown in the movie for cheap nudity are always boring and badly done. When the sex scene actually is a contributing part of the storytelling it’s fine because it serves a point.
In an era where you can just look at porn I don’t really see any reason why all movies would have to include frick scenes “just because”.
Films like Nymphomaniac, Shame, Basic Instinct, etc. all have sex scenes because they serve a valid and necessary purpose. Having a frick scene in a slasher movie also serves a genre rooted trope to “punish non-marital sex” and convenient way to kill teenagers in the woods at night. A frick scene in a spy thriller doesn’t often really serve much purpose beyond it being there just because uhhh you have to have a superfluous romantic interest and sex is how you show they’re into each other.
Spy thriller sex scenes are good when they involve the spy character seducing someone for important information, so it has relevance to progressing the plot. That actually happened during the Cold War where both male and female spies would sleep with the enemy to gain intel.
Yeah but usually there isn’t much actual seduction/honeypot schemes happening in the Bond vein of spy thrillers.
You’re right and I wish those plots were more common. Not because I’m a coomer but because I just think it’s an underused plot point.
Watch The Americans, it's like the whole fricking show and you'll get your fill and be sick of that theme by the end, kek
The Americans is a great example of how that trope isn't actually required for the plot and is thrown in for cheap thrills. Half of that show is just the drama and scandal of Keri Russel fricking a bunch of strangers.
Lol what? Did you even watch the show.
I'm the anon he responded to, and I'm kind of on the fence about it. On one hand, yes, it was critical to the plot, telling a story about things that'd actually happen and long cons spies had to do in the Cold War. That's not something touched in media much, and it's interesting. It's also true that it was gratuitous at times, and it did eventually put me off the show.
However, this is ironically because it was so integral to the plot; there may be an interesting, germane thing here. It kind of rode the line, but eventually just felt like NTR shit to me once it clearly got past depicting an interesting spy story, and got on to her wanting to leave him for her old black boyfriend. It just felt gross after a while. Wasn't even a sexist thing, because I was equally disgusted eventually about how he'd been manipulating the office girl as a second wife, though that's even still a more psychologically interesting plot because it's mission-relevant, and he might be seeking what she was denying him of having something that approaches a healthy, loving relationship.
Idk, there's definitely something there that's different in that TV shows are longer form and have more chance to make it relevant, and worry less about the old "show breasts for ticket sales" logic. Another one that's oddly relevant was Black Sails, which very much shoved it in for exploitive GoT-ripoff reasons, but was relevant in showing the decadence of the characters and their times, but also being well-shot and erotically done.
There's a fine line to this shit, and it goes back to the old art vs. porn argument, which this is all a rehash of from a more logical, less outraged biddie way. "You know it when you see it." Sex scenes can be for titillation and be like a car chase, but it has to look good. Most don't. And it can be well-written and relevant, if it isn't clearly just the writer/director's thinly disgused fetish written one-handed, and they were actually trying something.
The whole thing with the old boyfriend was all about her wanting to be with someone she actually loved, and the step in the process to make the main couple grow more close and finalising their commitment and emotional bond with one another as they had going way beyond just being two deep cover spies pretending to be a husband and wife who had to frick couple of times for purely procreation purposes in order to blend in and look like they were your average couple with two kids.
>where both male and female spies would sleep with the enemy to gain intel
99% of that was someone fricking the femcels/incels actually running the offices of intelligence agencies
True. Maybe that’s part of the reason the trope doesn’t show up in many spy thrillers.
just the most famous one with 2 dozen movies
Which ones? I don’t recall the Bond series having that trope.
>"i dont recall james bond seducing anyone"
It’s also because it was largely uneventful or just long term blackmail after the fact stuff that doesn’t make it very cinematic for a movie. The Americans did it pretty well where they have various different assets that they’re seducing, fricking and having relationships with and it’s long term work.
>Films like Nymphomaniac, Shame, Basic Instinct, etc. all have sex scenes because they serve a valid and necessary purpose
those movies are all shit though
>When the sex scene actually is a contributing part of the storytelling it’s fine because it serves a point.
have a nice day anti-art scum
It's like you haven't read the twitter post at all, and you're reinforcing the argument AGAINST yourself.
porn is a symptom not a cause. It's just another thing sub standard males have had to settle for in life that they want to take from us. They won't be satisfied until we have nothing but wage slaving and respecting women and minorities. Obviously porn is bad but free will isn't real if I never had a gf I literally need to jack off, don't want me watching porn give me some pussy.
You don't need porn to jack off.
Sex in movies is unrealistic
THIS CONCEPT OF SEX CONFUSES AND ANGERS ME
ITT
Zoomers were touched inappropriately as children so they think sex = bad touch
it's overused, and especially in movies and shows that dont even know them
it was fun when game of thrones did it in the first couple of seasons, but then the sex just started to be too often and every other show did it as well
It's funny to see Cinemaphile go "NOOOO HECKING DEGENERADO" to sex in media but when a literal who say hecking zoomies dont like it all of a sudden the 30 year old homosexuals who've wasted their youth on this site think it's good, actually. If you reply to me I win the argument btw
>redditor confuses Cinemaphile with /misc/
have sex before you have a nice day
This. It's always a good laugh seeing people who shitpost on Cinemaphile as a hobby talking down to other people as degenerates.
>b-b-but porn is fricking up your brain
oh boy wait until you realize how much damage Cinemaphile has done to your brain over the years.
After 30 no time spent is bad spent
this never happens to you?
My man is looking fit.
>homosexuals
Mirin that back god damn
Back double
Yes, except it was a McDonalds cashier.
does something actually happen in between in real life or does it also cut to fricking?
MOVIEEEEE??
found it myself, black bird season 1 episode 1
In my experience, the same people who like sex scenes in movies also hate men watching porn. In other words, women.
Basic Instinct is kino though
I just want to see nice breasts.
she has frankenbreasts bro
Attractive people doing attractive things is racist. And antisemitic. It’s fascism. Literally.
Sex scenes rarely add anything to the plot, I can think of maybe two movies off the top of my head where the sex scenes actively added something and where in fact irreplaceable. Another problem is that sex done in Hollywood feels unnatural and mechanical (much like San Fernando Valley porn incidentally) so it really feels like a chore going through it, both for the actors and the spectator.
make them do it for real
they're all prostitutes anyway
thats kinda the issue
they have shitty transactional sexual favors for directors/producers they dont want to frick
they dont have actual free association to express intimacy/connection through physical touch, hence all ~~*hollywood*~~ sex scenes are these goofy pants on head moronic disjointed sex no one actually has where people like throw a bunch of shit off a desk or bookshelf and then the guy just shoves it in with no foreplay and somehow both people cum after 2 thrusts and the just nuts inside after said 2 pumps without so much as a warning, just like how the impotent israelite director fricked the lead actress
>Sex scenes rarely add anything to the plot
neither do fight scenes, establishing shots, car chases etc. you could simply skip to the result and the "plot" would be the same. but you don't complain about those, do you, zoomie?
The dopameme those give are totally different. Prease understan.
It's funny that you can't even defend sex scenes, you just have to bring down all the other types of scenes instead. You also speak like someone who has absolutely no movie culture.
>neither do fight scenes
fight scenes worth their salt are interesting because of their creativity or the quality of the choreography or how humorous they are. If you don't understand why something like vidrel has more value than a 30 seconds shot of an actor awkwardly thrusting his codpiece against the lead actress then you are an absolute moron.
Same goes for car chases. The car chase in Blues Brothers, a five minute long scene making fun of car chases, are iconic.
>establishing
Establishing shots are a filming techniques you fricking dumbass, they have no place in this discussion.
You're a simple brained moron.
>If you don't understand why something like vidrel has more value than a 30 seconds shot of an actor awkwardly thrusting his codpiece against the lead actress then you are an absolute moron.
I find this more erotic than the majority of porn tho.
This argument doesn't work when 90% of action scenes are unengaging and derivative as shit, tho. And yeah 90% of sex scenes are stupid as frick but there are good ones there (the sex scene in 300 Rise of an Empire is literally the only remotely entertaining point in the movie).
My point is that being didactic about this tanks your own point. For every scene like the one you posted, there's some shitty 50 cut Liam Neeson fight or an MCU laser showdown. The concept of "2 characters have sex onscreen" is not inherently bad and you can make it engaging.
>(the sex scene in 300 Rise of an Empire is literally the only remotely entertaining point in the movie)
That speaks to how bad the movie is, not to how good the sex scene is. Once again, you can only defend sex scenes by bringing down everything you compare it to.
> For every scene like the one you posted, there's some shitty 50 cut Liam Neeson fight or an MCU laser showdown
Your complaint(s) boils down to "Action scenes and car chases are unnecessary because I have an absolutely abhorrent taste in movies.". It's really no wonder that you need some wooden sex act simulacra to entertain yourself
>not to how good the sex scene is.
No, I genuinely think it's a hilarious (and not unintentionally so) scene that manages to tell a lot about the characters and I remember people were laughing about it when we left the theater
Also, no, I never said action scenes and car chases are unnessecary (other guy did), I'm saying that 90% of anything is derivative. If we're using foreign 70s movies as an example of originality like you are with the webm, picrel one with a very famous and well done sex scene that pushed the envelope for the time it came out.
>I'm saying that 90% of anything is derivative
and the relevance of that in this discussion is?
>It seems you’re arguing against sex in film
I encourage you to reread (read?) my initial post before you waste time writing your next wall of intellectual farts, you condescending Black person
>That speaks to how bad the movie is, not to how good the sex scene is.
That’s bad logic, as it could easily speak to both points at the same time. Since you missed this lob, I’ll spell it out further: the sex scene can be great while the movie can be shit i.e. they aren’t necessarily mutually exclusive. There is potential overlap.
It seems you’re arguing against sex in film, which might be why you’re leaning towards confirmation bias. It’s always one of the two: you either don’t know what you’re talking about or you do and you’re lying.
Whatever. I’ve never seen the film, and I couldn’t care less. I’m fine with sex scenes however, as I’m confident with myself as a living being of earth that fricks. Sex is integral to life as we understand it, and therefore it is both natural and expected yo see it reflected in our art for everything that could be. Good, bad, and otherwise. This is to say, I can easily incision a scenario where a moment of sex in cinema doesn’t just make logical sense, it enhances the film by being something more whether that be asking something if the viewer, maybe challenging their preconceived notions of the world, or simply, accidentally opens them up ti some new facet of existence.
It’s not always pretty. It’s not always nice.
It is however.
Get over it. Or don’t.
May people be fricking on film until the stars go to black.
Last note: you should check out Liam Neeson in a movie called “Kinsey.”
No reason.
>The concept of "2 characters have sex onscreen" is not inherently bad and you can make it engaging.
I don't see anyone saying sex scenes are inherently bad, just that they rarely serve a purpose to the movie. Whether it be plot advancement or character development.
And, no, that doesn't mean there are NO sex scenes that fit those criteria, just that they generally do not.
>neither do fight scenes, establishing shots, car chases etc
I skip those too
Car chases and fights move the plot forwards
>Make half the male population incels
>Get mad when they don't know what sex is like.
I thought israelites were supposed to be smart?
Coom-addled trannies just cannot accept the fact that not everyone has their life revolving around sex. This is why they take people criticizing gratuitous sex scenes as a personal attack. It is what it is.
>Coom-addled trannies
Aren't they the ones who hate seeing beautiful women, though, because it reminds them of what they'll never be?
A large part of why you can't even discuss actresses here anymore without the thread getting deleted and everyone in it banned, is because the mods are literal trannies who are mad they'll never look like those actresses.
They're also the loudest about sexy women in video games.
That theory has some merit until you remember that a frightening percentage of FTMs also end up being outed as rapists and sexual pests
>FTM
MTF is what I meant, obviously
No doubt. It's a weird thing, to be sure. Their whole personalities are wrapped around a sexual fetish, but they also sex, or, hetero sex, at least.
I've literally seen troons say that men finding women attractive should be illegal. Might've been shitposting, though, who knows?
*hate sex
>outed as rapists and sexual pests
Meh female sex pests are pretty typical, we just don't talk about it much. See what female teachers get up to; there is a reason sex abuse is more prevalent in schools than anywhere else and it not the dudes.
It's not puritanical to not want sex shoved in your face in every movie. Why do we have laws that prohibit public sexual acts? Why do we have social norms that you must not expose yourself in public? People have to behave in a civilized way or we're literally debased to the level of animals. Even without being directly shown anything sexual, the male mind is constantly thinking about sex. It is at least distracting and at worst all-consuming. How are people supposed to live, work, raise families, be together with people in a community, if they're consumed by primal urges?
>How are people supposed to live, work, raise families, be together with people in a community, if they're consumed by primal urges?
I do it just fine. Couple off faps during the week as all ya need, but seeing cute girls is still nice.
Depends on the person. Some low T people may not be much affected
>why gen z is so terrified of sex.
Well... where do we begin? I'd say growing up in a matriarchy, first and foremost. Being fed a steady diet of #MeToo hysteria during their adolescent years probably didn't help. Then to top it all off, women like Lizzo are held up as a modern sex symbol. Imagine how fricked your head would be under these circumstances. We're not even exploring the fact that they were all forced to wear Bane masks in public settings for a year and a half. That generation has been psychologically tortured through internet neo-liberalism for their entire lives.
People don't get laid and it makes them uncomfortable. Also people who don't frick are unbearable.
You're just a coomer consoomer gay.
Get laid virgin
or else?
>sex scene in a movie
>can't watch the movie with anyone now
It's either awkward silence or perverts enjoying it. It doesn't add anything. It's just porn.
Only women want sex scenes in movies
Zoomers are afraid of sex because they were exposed to the most degenerate shit since childhood
because zoomoids are so creeped and/or intimidated by sex they don't have it, don't want to see it, don't want to think about it. 2nd worst generation after boomers.
>don't want to see it
Bullshit. They are giga coomers who have developed some extremely bizarre porn fetishes.
sexual revolution started up a free market version of sexual relations. few of the guys hoarding up all the pussy. Pussy = labour and they're selling all their labour to chad.
so there's a minority of men that are having more sex than ever, but there's also more sexless guys. and women are moronic sheep.
I guess more and more people are realizing there's really no point to them. They serve no purpose.
There's no point to a lot of shit in movies, I realized this about car chases when I was little. Movies aren't just plot point descriptions.
Ultimately, everything in a work of art should "further the plot" -- even slice of life animes understand this. You don't and probably have never created something beautiful in your life. The way sex is used in film now is more akin to what Israel does when it takes over a territory: pumping pornography into the media to demoralize the target audience.
>car chases
Boring and unnecessary slop as well
Do movies even have sex scenes anymore? This argument keeps coming up over and over again but the only recent example I can think of with one was Oppenheimer where it lasts 5 seconds and there's nothing erotic about the way it's shot.
Yes, movies still have sex scenes. If you mean are there Basic Instinct type 80s/90s lengthy saxophone accompanied frick scenes, then no. That went out of style couple of decades ago when lengthy sex scenes put into the movie to get horny teenagers to the seats no longer guaranteed ticket sales.
The sex scenes in Oppenheimer were ridiculous and detrimental to the plot
>TFW he says the destroyer of worlds quote while shoving his dick in the slampig
>When he says the quote again all the pathos is ruined
The scene where he cucks his wife in front of the feds was so corny and surreal too
It's the sort of writing you'd expect from a porn parody
it's really fricking funny when people say "Well I'll just watch porn if I wanna see sex" and then you ask them what porn they watch and it's the most degenerate hardcore shit imaginable and they have to goon for an hour with a deathgrip b4 they cum
Sounds like that person has trouble answering the question "is it required for the plot" and instead just gets upset.
Liberals have literally become modern day Mary Whitehouses'
Weren't people praising TLOU show for having a gay sex scene? Granted, I don't know how graphic it was, but why was that ok, but regular sex scenes aren't?
so why IS gen Z so terrified of sex in the first place?
Been told for years that finding women attractive is basically rape.
>hetero sex BAD
>troony lmfao+ bestiality sex GOOD
also just watch porn!...
I hate Jap games and the new Baldurs Gate looks shit too
same, I was just pointing out the hypocrisy
BG3 is no different from the older entries except more modern graphics and it uses 5e instead of 2e. The gay shit is the only thing that should turn you off from it
What weeb games have sex? At most they'll have a cute girl wearing revealing clothing
Rapelay the game
1. Annoying zoomers
2. Easy mode engagement bait.
People need to stop falling for it.
I think people who complain about things in movies, be it sex or violence should have a coke and a smile and shut the frick up.
Nobody, especially artists, have to cater to every seething little pussy who doesn't like what they make and if I was a filmmaker I would put a 10 minute long hardcore sex scene in my next movie just to spite you.
If these complainers had their way the only available entertainment would be Hallmark movies, no sex, no violence, no cursing, no risque jokes, etc...
>NOOOO HOW DARE YOU CRITICIZE MY MASTERPIECE
Seethe more coomer snowflake
>Is that...A PAIR OF breasts...NOOOOOO HOW COULD THIS BE HAPPENING
>IS THAT PERSON... NOT... HORNY...
>HELP....I'M..BEING..GENOCIDE
>I was a filmmaker I would put a 10 minute long hardcore sex scene in my next movie just to spite you.
But you're not. You're just an anonymous moron seething about people seething about movies. It doesn't matter how ridiculous you could paint the people seething at sex scenes in movies, you will always be one step beyond with comments like that. These people are living in your head.
So you're in agreement then, the only movies that should be released are Hallmark movies with no sex, violence, cursing, risque jokes, or anything that might offend people?
Coomers are fragile snowflakes obssesed with ''incels'' or ''puritans''
They will start a thread to discuss their coomerism and when someone criticizes them they seethe that they are being oppressed
It's not enough to coom they have to make sure everyone is praising them for it
I think deep down they feel guilty or something
The thing is, I am somewhat of a coomer myself, there is nothing I love more than beating my meat to a beautiful woman pretending to suck my dick in POV. But that's just that, it's porn, which I consume whenever I feel like jerking off. I don't see the point in putting that in a normal movie. And I certainly don't see the point in getting mad over people pointing this out. There is is weird subset of people who can not compartmentalize and feel attacked when you say that sex scenes belong in porn.
>There is is weird subset of people who can not compartmentalize and feel attacked when you say that sex scenes belong in porn.
Those are usually the same posters who supposedly have sex and have a seething hatred of people who don't for some reason
Honestly i think at least some of these people have issues with guilt
They can't really quit being coomers and they can't stop feeling bad about it
So they start to hate anyone who makes them feel guilty
If I'm not having sex then I don't see why movies should make me uncomfortable by showing me what I'm missing.
wouldn't it be simpler for you to just have sex instead of trying to impose your preferences on a piece of mass entertainment designed to appeal to millions of people?
Can anyone name sex scenes at have actually contributed to or advanced the plot of the movies they're in?
There are none. It’s just coomer bait.
Source?
Asking for my penis
Allisen Casey
She only has like 3 pictures.
No, that's the issue. Unless it's porn or an actual sex-comedy they're pointless.
The Evil Dead tree rape scene.
The one in Oppenheimer specifically showed how Opp's wife had to imagine him there with another woman in front of her and all the people watching as he recounts his affair to the committee. It shows how savage the interrogation was on both of them and makes it even more impressive that she never flips on Oppenheimer at the end. But that's a rare example. Truthfully the vast majority of sex scenes are just there to add cheap excitement and drama to a film, like a flashy car, or a casino scene, it's purely superficial.
Unnecessary
In Alice Darling the sex scenes are showcasing how Anna Kendrick’s character is always pressured to be the submissive and compliant to the needs and demands of her mentally and emotionally abusive toxic boyfriend. She never initiates the sex in the relationship, it like everything else is always about serving his needs, while never caring about what she thinks or wants.
species 2
Sharon Stones pussy in Basic Instinct
Literally every sex scene in Shame including and especially the gay blowjob and showing Fassbender taking a real piss
>the room
Honestly him fricking the girls belly button added quite a bit in my option
the movies just arent good sex scene or not
The unwashed masses are finally waking up.
The pretense of having sex scenes is a director having honest art yet we never seen a scene of how the woman gets super wet on a rapist's wiener and she feels embarassed and cums even harder by looking at how she left the wiener full of juices
1. the puritanical immgirant population
2. the ultra-leftist that's no different due to their own personal insecurities
i dont like sex scenes because when im watching movie with my parents it feels uncomfortable
Ebil amerimutt puritan!
Just stroke le dick in front of le family this is how we do eet in yurop!
>Oppenheimer is naked in front of the inquiry panel
Okay this is a good metaphor
>Zoom out and commie b***h is riding him
Literally why?
Because it’s so out of place and unnecessary.
Zoomers are finding out that boomers and specially boomer directors were all just a bunch of perverts that abuse their positions of power. (And it’s true).
There was never a need for any sex scenes ever, it’s there because they’re pervs.
>There was never a need for any sex scenes ever,
Arguably there was more reason in the boomer/gen X eras because there was no internet porn. Nor were TV shows and movies so freely available. Now the world is saturated with both, people are getting sick of the same pointless sex scenes in non-pornographic media.
How is watching a sex scene any different than being a cuck?
"Why do so many TV shows contain unnecessary and gratuitious sex scenes?" is a perfectly valid question.
I've noticed no one in this thread has actually tried to defend these sex scenes on artistic grounds, instead going on a bizarre "damn kids these days" tangent which reads like it belongs in the comments section of a Daily Mail article than on Cinemaphile.
Sex scene = goyslop, it's that simple.
>hey guys so I saw this thing on twitter and
Okay....so what?
Sex scenes in art and film are a natural push of the first amendment. We live in a free society and thus are allowed to witness and partake in freedom of speech. Zoomers hate freedom of speech and only want to control others actions using speech crimes. They’re anti enlightenment and anti American. I blame the affinity for muzzies.
No one's taking away your precious rights grandpa. This is just a discussion about the (lack of) contribution that sex scenes have in film.
It contributes to art by pushing boundaries and expressing free speech rights.
Unironically true.
Zoomer's believe in authoritarian rule to suppress anything they don't like.
People are having less sex. Seeing sex scenes makes them jealous
I hated how there was so many graphic sex scenes in game of thrones. Designed to get morons into the show. The books did not even even have that much sex or nudity
You're wrong. There was more sex in the books than in the show. I can think of several sex scenes from the book that were never included in the show. Like Tyrion's wiener being out in front of Sansa and rock hard. Cersei's explicit lesbian scene in the book that isn't shown. Daenerys' dress where one of her breasts is visible and on display that her actress refused to wear. The show is very toned down. Not to mention broad censorship like Daenerys being a pubescent teen in the books but an adult woman in the show.
I didn't see later episodes but I'm guessing they also censored the scenes of Yara's rape fetish where she enjoys being raped in bed by her friends.
Yes I am sure Loras Tyrell & his homosexual squire along with Renly being nude & having gay sex at every opportunity was 100% canon in the books
Did you even read them or are you just pulling assumptions out of your ass?
What chapter was Renly or Loras having graphic gay sex like in the show?
That's not what I asked. Did you read the books or not? The answer is obviously no.
I read the books before the show was even a fever dream. Just admit Renly & Loras sex scenes were put into to appeal to the normalgays to get them into the shitshow too
I don't believe that you did or I believe that you read them so long ago that you essentially remember nothing about them. There are relationships in the book that are heavily implied(like Loras and Renly) that are more openly shown in the show and there are other relationships and sexual implications(even gay ones, like Cersei and her "Myrish Swamp" lady, or the Blackfish) that are omitted even though they existed in the books.
The original assertion that there were more sex scenes in the show was wrong and now you deflecting to this non-point of them deciding to openly show Loras and Renly's relationship rather than have it alluded to is just irrelevant nothing. They make repeated reference to it in the books and various characters make japes to Renly about what a sword swallowing gay he is. They just depicted it openly rather than having it tongue in cheek.
>Tyrion's wiener being out in front of Sansa and rock hard
>Cersei's explicit lesbian scene in the book that isn't shown
>Daenerys' dress where one of her breasts is visible and on display that her actress refused to wear
None of these are graphic sex, only sexual acts. I know you are too sheltered & virginal to understand the difference.
>heavily implied
Implying? NGMI if not explicitly stated, it is your fanfic headcanon
>depicted it openly rather than having it tongue in cheek
So you are saying D&D are talentless hack frauds? Got it
>None of these are graphic sex, only sexual acts. I know you are too sheltered & virginal to understand the difference.
First, the original post said:
>The books did not even even have that much sex or nudity
>or nudity
So my response with the nudity examples was appropriate. Second, you have definitively proven that you never read the books. Cersei's lesbian sex scene is graphic and you wouldn't have forgotten it if you had read them. It is a full graphic sex scene, full through to orgasm.
You are desperately flailing and grasping at straws at this point. Just stop posting and accept the L here. You didn't read the books and it's beyond obvious you have no clue what you're talking about.
The books are over 5000 pages, what percentage of the total is devoted to nudity & sex? Now compare the series. How much runtime is devoted to sex, nudity or talking about sex?
Also female lesbians are larpers they lack the organs for true sex unlike males & GRRM gets a chubby while writing them in all his stories
>Desperately flailing and grasping at straws at this point
You have to go back
>The books did not even even have that much sex or nudity
they actually had more, particularly from main characters. the show farms most of it out to porn actresses with no lines.
Now that I think about it, my favorite sex scene in the book is missing from the show, and god would I have paid anything for it to be depicted: Cersei giving Robert a blowjob and then, after he falls back to pass out, she furiously licks her fingers and swallows his semen out of anger out of the fantasy that she's murdering his heirs by devouring his semen.
What sex scene discourse?
sex scenes in movies always grossed me out
I despise listening to people breathing heavily and kissing, and watching them rub their stupid bodies against each other is vomit-inducing
>t. millennial who still jerks off to softcore porn
99% sex scenes are super boring and a waste of time. The men are never screaming stuff like "GET PREGNANT, GET PREGNANT". Very unrealistic.
my problem with sex scenes is that its never a real sex scene, just weird camera angles to disguise the fact that theyre using sex doubles
>sudden
Compare 80s movie nudity to 90s movie nudity to 00s movie nudity. Sex and nudity have been getting scaled back in film for the last 40 years
Brains melted by asexual capeshit. People who have a childlike mentality should just stick to PG13 where they belong.
So that's a no?
This is part of it. I'm of two minds on the subject, but it's odd because people are simultaneously going "why do we even have sex scenes?" for legitimate reasons, while the main big films these days are entirely disingenuous, sexless pieces missing real human ethos coming from an entirely different angle, and I don't like that either. There's a great article about this - "Everyone Is Beautiful and No One Is Horny"
https://bloodknife.com/everyone-beautiful-no-one-horny/
>main big films these days are entirely disingenuous, sexless pieces missing real human ethos coming from an entirely different angle
You might sort of have a point with movies
Most shows on streaming are full of pointless depraved sex though
I'm perfectly happy with sex scenes that serve some kind of artistic purpose like developing a character or theme in a movie. It's just that the vast majority of them do not. Case in point
is the quintessential modern sex scene. Barely any dialogue followed by predictable jump cut to mid-fricking, adding absolutely nothing to the plot except providing some thrilling taboo for people who have fantasized casual sex with a stranger. That's what most sex scenes are. Cheap thrills. Slop.
I've seen pornos with more dialog than that
>I'm perfectly happy with films that serve some kind of artistic purpose like studying a character or portraying a theme. It's just that the vast majority of them do not. Case in point, the last 15 years of capeshit is the quintessential modern film. Barely any nuance followed by predictable quip to cgi-action, adding absolutely nothing to the plot except providing some thrilling explosions for the adhd-riddled masses who spend all their time on their phones. That's what most films are. Cheap thrills. Slop.
ftfy
I'm surprised nobody has mentioned "the beautiful ones" experiment yet in this thread in relation to both modern society and how these films are depicted. It is uncanny how accurately human sexual behavior has mimicked the experiment over the past 50 years.
Alright, I'm interested, go on with a qrd for your (You).
no time, thread about to die google it, i promise it is worth it. rats mimick current human sexual behavior as they get increasingly comfortable society
Iook up universe 25 mouse utopia
they hate seeing men perform sex acts on actual women
Both ends of the horseshoe are anti-sex.
Leftoids are all ''sex positive'' and want to have gay orgies in public
Wrong. Ask Cinemaphile if they think lefties are "sex positive". Right wing coomers are ironically sex positive and they constantly whine about liberals censoring sex like puritans.
I feel like this particular discussion is about one side wanting gay sex everywhere and the other side wanting big breasts everywhere
I just got reminded that last of us episode 3 was broke back mountain with no zombies. The episode with the two kid lesbians was also very weird
You guys are just wrong. There are leftists who are both sex positive and sex negative and they tend to go to extremes and it depends entirely on the subject. They will, on one hand, promote extreme pornography, prostitution, and women affirming themselves with any kind of sexual expression, but they conversely are against any depiction in media of women as sexually attractive characters and will constantly censor them in films and video games. Saying that they are ALWAYS in favor of more sex is incorrect. They're in favor of sex as long as it is empowering to women in their view. They are not in favor of sex that favors men.
Sex positivity means more than just placating horny coomers
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>Lefitst dislike some coomerbait vidya they think is sexist so they are puritans
Leftoids love sex, the more depraved the better
Obscenity laws were repealed by the leftist lobby, Leftists want to teach about sex in schools
Most movies with sex scenes are directed by leftists
Why have graphic fight scenes when you could just fade to black and show the aftermath?
I genuinely wouldn't care. Action scenes are honestly useless fluff to me at this point too other than their conclusions. People suck at writing significant action or well choreographed scenes where the fighting actually matters. It's either some nonsense where two guys fighting have superhuman ability to withstand blows or two giant innumerable armies just win whenever the scene is over.
Unless a movie was showing actual tactics used and was able to showcase how a battle was tactically won, it's effectively not very important. Braveheart would be an example of a film that has battle elements that play into the story(like the nobles deciding to accept buyouts and leave the field, or the king using conscripts and friendly fire to ensure victory)
at least with fighting people are honest that they actually want to see people beat the shit out of eachother.
With sex is always some contrived 2deep4u reasoning that's used to justify it.
As a guy I enjoy graphic fight scenes but if you asked a female-dominated audience I bet they'd be completely happy with this. Personally, if a sex scene doesn't have any purpose in the movie, all it does is make me wanna jerk off but I can't because I'm surrounded by people.
When we get rid of Christians all these problems will go away
Because modern day actresses can't fricking act. Modern day writers can't fricking write. And modern day directors have no idea how to actually direct.
You see better camera work and storytelling in amateur porn videos being sold on onlyfans.
So they invent this rediculous justification as to why consenting adults can't do simulated sex scenes because muh male gaze muh sexualization muh muh muh.
TL;DR: they lack the talent to create something so they just continue to push out slop hoping the audience is dumb enough to like it.
It has way more to do with studios wanting to make movies as mainstream and safe for everyone as possible in order to maximise profits.
People like this who think all actors, writers and directors can’t do anything right anymore don’t watch anything but mainstream blockbuster garbage and fail to understand those projects are done for money and they are controlled by the studio. If you want something different you have to watch small budget indy movies where people have the freedom to do what they want within their budgets.
Stop watching MCU and Fast and Furious movies and start paying attention to what is happening in the low budget independent market that gets no real coverage outside of festivals.
It's 2-fold.
>Zoomers have a terrible relationship with sex
>Zoomers believe that governments/institutions should be allowed to dictate how people express themselves
Both are really worrying.
a loooot of anti-semitism in here
kind of a crazy amount of anti-semitism tbh
Unless the movie is about romance or sexuality, sex scenes are fricking pointless.
And these random sex scenes make it real fricking awkward to watch movies with your family.
/tv/
>Stop being afraid of sex in media!
also Cinemaphile
>AAAAAAIEEEE THESE UNATTRACTIVE PEOPLE ARE HAVING SEX IN MY MEDIA SHUT IT DOWN THE WEST HAS FALLEN
This "discourse" does not exist beyond a very specific part of Twitter.