It's supposed to be a harmony of Yin and Yang sort of thing. In life Anakin let everything get out of balance and the dark side ended up dominating him and running at all times. In the afterlife, Anakin has blended both sides together in harmony and uses either as a tool for the sake of demonstration in this case. Ahsoka's big hang up is she's afraid to punch as hard as she can because she is afraid she will end up as Anakin. Because of this, she lost to Baylan. Luke redeemed Anakin by showing him he's more than just a soldier, more than just a destroyer, more than even just a Jedi or Sith.
The show's execution of this was poor, but Anakin was trying to show her that seeing him only as Vader is a gross oversimplification that causes her to falsely compare herself to him and sabotage herself. People are multi-faceted, even the "bad" ones and just because she pushes herself doesn't mean she's going to become Anakin. This is demonstrated when Anakin forces her to fight her hardest and she ends up going right to the limit, but rather than kill Anakin, she shows restraint proving to herself that she can do that.
Anakin is redeemed and he acknowledges it. In the afterlife though to demonstrate his point, he had to do what was necessary to get Ahsoka to push herself to her limit. The show should have taken its time a little more and fleshed this out over another episode maybe or just had the entire episode dedicated to this last lesson.
Thanks. The 2 really important parts of that sequence are when Anakin says something like "you're more than that because I'm more than that." I took that to mean that he's essentially saying you're more than some bringer of death because even I, Anakin Skywalker/Darth Vader, am more than that. And the big thing that brought Anakin back was Luke allowing Anakin to see himself as a father whereas up to that point maybe he was only seeing himself as Darth Vader. It was so powerful that it actually carried with him into the afterlife.
And it's an important lesson because Ahsoka is sort of held up by a similar problem. It boils down to a self-image issue, a problem with in Obi-Wan's words "a certain point of view." Many of the truths we cling to depend greatly on our own point of view. Ahsoka believed she was a killer like Darth Vader and Anakin was the perfect person to show her that it isn't how it works because Anakin at one point had a point of view that he was a monster and he played into that role of a monster until Luke showed him that he was also a father.
The last thing that's important is that Anakin voluntarily and willfully de-activates "dark side mode" on his own. He closes his eyes, steps back, and he's back to "good Anakin." This demonstrates again, that he took something with him from life and learned how to make peace with what he is. Anakin in the afterlife has really become the embodiment of the Force in that he is both light and dark, but in control of both to the extent that the darkside we see there is more tempered, like a controlled flame, rather than a wildfire running out of control as it often is in the world of the living.
We don't know enough about his back story. What made him become a senator? What made him feel he needed so much power? What led him down the dark side and kept him going deeper into it in such an unrepentant way? What we know about Palpatine is that he felt it was necessary "for some reason" to become the Palpatine that he ended up as. There was some point in his life that nudged him in the direction he went down.
Maybe he an abusive or cold family? Maybe someone he cared about died or had some horrible misfortune happen to them? Maybe it was several factors. Characters like Palpatine, when they aren't just demons or psychopaths, often end up as unapologetic practitioners of evil because they had just as much capacity to do good, but they were at some point punished by circumstance for doing good and were conditioned to do evil. They do the right thing and it bites them in the ass enough times that they vow to stop doing the right thing.
As those people become evil, they forget that there is any other path to walk down and soon they begin seeing evil in the mirror and living in accordance with that image. We know that in any event he ultimately became an embodiment of the dark side. The dark side like I mentioned though is like fire and if you let it out of control like Palpatine did, it consumes everything and then is snuffed out and that's exactly what happened.
Palpatine, depending on what you want to consider canon or not, was such a great Sith that he ended up extinguishing the entire Sith lineage...Palpatine's story is probably really damn interesting because he ended up where he did and didn't have anything that could bring him back or change his perspective on things. He didn't have his Rosebud or his Luke. He just kept pushing and pushing, until it ended up destroying him. I doubt Palpatine zapped his mom to death in the cradle though. We just don't have a compelling story of him available. It would probably be a good tragedy though.
>Palpatine, depending on what you want to consider canon or not, was such a great Sith that he ended up extinguishing the entire Sith lineage...Palpatine's story is probably really damn interesting because he ended up where he did and didn't have anything that could bring him back or change his perspective on things. He didn't have his Rosebud or his Luke. He just kept pushing and pushing, until it ended up destroying him. I doubt Palpatine zapped his mom to death in the cradle though. We just don't have a compelling story of him available. It would probably be a good tragedy though. >No milkies? Have a taste of my pooowah!
Okay but George clearly stated that balance does not mean 50/50 dark light it means no dark since the dark side is what brings the force out of balance
Why the fuck didnt he appear before kid Kylo when Kylo roleplayed as Vader and tell him the truth?
Why the fuck didnt he appear before Luke to knock some sense into him?
Why??
WHyy??
Whyy??
I dont fucking know. FUck JJ, fuck RJ, fuck KK, fuck Disney.
Because obviously everyone working on Star Wars post-Sequels is doing everything they can to skirt around them, and pretend they never existed, instead of addressing them.
The only medium dealing with Sequel material are comic books, and Disney has already shown, on multiple occasions, that they will retcon those on a whim.
Ahsoka, did I ever tell you about the Sith cultists on Exegol, who indoctrinated Exegol's population with Sith values and raised and trained their children to become officers, mechanics and soldiers for the Final Order? They became good friends
> Asked to The Republic a fleet to stop bad guys > Muh we don't have a fleet for you >Brought 4 poor x-wings to save her friends >The Republic sent a fleet to bring her back
Yo so Palpatine actually knows of an external threat that is winding up to fuck up his home system. He was a Jedi once. Tried to warn them. They gave no fucks. He then went to the Sith, they also gave no fucks.
So he hatched his plan to take control of everything, so the system would have a better chance, unified, against the external threat.
Idk how much of that is cannon these days. Especially after the sequel trilogy.
But yeah, palps was a good guy doing very evil things so the system would have a fighting chance. But was twisted by the dark side and fucked it all up.
Why did he went fucking evil sith lord during the fight if he was supposed to have been redeemed by Luke by this point?
It's supposed to be a harmony of Yin and Yang sort of thing. In life Anakin let everything get out of balance and the dark side ended up dominating him and running at all times. In the afterlife, Anakin has blended both sides together in harmony and uses either as a tool for the sake of demonstration in this case. Ahsoka's big hang up is she's afraid to punch as hard as she can because she is afraid she will end up as Anakin. Because of this, she lost to Baylan. Luke redeemed Anakin by showing him he's more than just a soldier, more than just a destroyer, more than even just a Jedi or Sith.
The show's execution of this was poor, but Anakin was trying to show her that seeing him only as Vader is a gross oversimplification that causes her to falsely compare herself to him and sabotage herself. People are multi-faceted, even the "bad" ones and just because she pushes herself doesn't mean she's going to become Anakin. This is demonstrated when Anakin forces her to fight her hardest and she ends up going right to the limit, but rather than kill Anakin, she shows restraint proving to herself that she can do that.
Anakin is redeemed and he acknowledges it. In the afterlife though to demonstrate his point, he had to do what was necessary to get Ahsoka to push herself to her limit. The show should have taken its time a little more and fleshed this out over another episode maybe or just had the entire episode dedicated to this last lesson.
Well god damn anon, that's a very good analysis and response. I think i have no further questions, your honor.
Thanks. The 2 really important parts of that sequence are when Anakin says something like "you're more than that because I'm more than that." I took that to mean that he's essentially saying you're more than some bringer of death because even I, Anakin Skywalker/Darth Vader, am more than that. And the big thing that brought Anakin back was Luke allowing Anakin to see himself as a father whereas up to that point maybe he was only seeing himself as Darth Vader. It was so powerful that it actually carried with him into the afterlife.
And it's an important lesson because Ahsoka is sort of held up by a similar problem. It boils down to a self-image issue, a problem with in Obi-Wan's words "a certain point of view." Many of the truths we cling to depend greatly on our own point of view. Ahsoka believed she was a killer like Darth Vader and Anakin was the perfect person to show her that it isn't how it works because Anakin at one point had a point of view that he was a monster and he played into that role of a monster until Luke showed him that he was also a father.
The last thing that's important is that Anakin voluntarily and willfully de-activates "dark side mode" on his own. He closes his eyes, steps back, and he's back to "good Anakin." This demonstrates again, that he took something with him from life and learned how to make peace with what he is. Anakin in the afterlife has really become the embodiment of the Force in that he is both light and dark, but in control of both to the extent that the darkside we see there is more tempered, like a controlled flame, rather than a wildfire running out of control as it often is in the world of the living.
Ok explain how Palpatine is multi-faceted and I won't call bullshit on your spiel.
We don't know enough about his back story. What made him become a senator? What made him feel he needed so much power? What led him down the dark side and kept him going deeper into it in such an unrepentant way? What we know about Palpatine is that he felt it was necessary "for some reason" to become the Palpatine that he ended up as. There was some point in his life that nudged him in the direction he went down.
Maybe he an abusive or cold family? Maybe someone he cared about died or had some horrible misfortune happen to them? Maybe it was several factors. Characters like Palpatine, when they aren't just demons or psychopaths, often end up as unapologetic practitioners of evil because they had just as much capacity to do good, but they were at some point punished by circumstance for doing good and were conditioned to do evil. They do the right thing and it bites them in the ass enough times that they vow to stop doing the right thing.
As those people become evil, they forget that there is any other path to walk down and soon they begin seeing evil in the mirror and living in accordance with that image. We know that in any event he ultimately became an embodiment of the dark side. The dark side like I mentioned though is like fire and if you let it out of control like Palpatine did, it consumes everything and then is snuffed out and that's exactly what happened.
Palpatine, depending on what you want to consider canon or not, was such a great Sith that he ended up extinguishing the entire Sith lineage...Palpatine's story is probably really damn interesting because he ended up where he did and didn't have anything that could bring him back or change his perspective on things. He didn't have his Rosebud or his Luke. He just kept pushing and pushing, until it ended up destroying him. I doubt Palpatine zapped his mom to death in the cradle though. We just don't have a compelling story of him available. It would probably be a good tragedy though.
>Palpatine, depending on what you want to consider canon or not, was such a great Sith that he ended up extinguishing the entire Sith lineage...Palpatine's story is probably really damn interesting because he ended up where he did and didn't have anything that could bring him back or change his perspective on things. He didn't have his Rosebud or his Luke. He just kept pushing and pushing, until it ended up destroying him. I doubt Palpatine zapped his mom to death in the cradle though. We just don't have a compelling story of him available. It would probably be a good tragedy though.
>No milkies? Have a taste of my pooowah!
Okay but George clearly stated that balance does not mean 50/50 dark light it means no dark since the dark side is what brings the force out of balance
George also stated midi-chlorian counts are a thing, so
cool headcanon for a bunch of fagslop
He’s the father of the force now, a mortis god.
Because it's in an alternate timeline where the sequels don't happen. That's the only explanation for how any of the SW shows make sense.
Good
BECAUSE NO REFUNDS GOY
Bad writing
This. NuWars is utterly bereft of creative talent. It's just sluttery and many times over regurgitated memberberries at this point.
A good question, for another time
Why the fuck didnt he appear before kid Kylo when Kylo roleplayed as Vader and tell him the truth?
Why the fuck didnt he appear before Luke to knock some sense into him?
Why??
WHyy??
Whyy??
I dont fucking know. FUck JJ, fuck RJ, fuck KK, fuck Disney.
Because that's not Anakin. It's an imposter.
I thought prequels were LE BAD. Why can't disney let it go?
The prequels are bad, but Disney will pander to whoever they think might show up.
He was a hallucination or a Force vision, no more real than Vader in the cave on Dagobah, conjured from a person's own memory.
Because obviously everyone working on Star Wars post-Sequels is doing everything they can to skirt around them, and pretend they never existed, instead of addressing them.
The only medium dealing with Sequel material are comic books, and Disney has already shown, on multiple occasions, that they will retcon those on a whim.
Ahsoka, did I ever tell you about the Sith cultists on Exegol, who indoctrinated Exegol's population with Sith values and raised and trained their children to become officers, mechanics and soldiers for the Final Order? They became good friends
ahsoka can you send a message to my son luke and tell him I said hi
Because Exegol isn't canon.
> Asked to The Republic a fleet to stop bad guys
> Muh we don't have a fleet for you
>Brought 4 poor x-wings to save her friends
>The Republic sent a fleet to bring her back
Yo so Palpatine actually knows of an external threat that is winding up to fuck up his home system. He was a Jedi once. Tried to warn them. They gave no fucks. He then went to the Sith, they also gave no fucks.
So he hatched his plan to take control of everything, so the system would have a better chance, unified, against the external threat.
Idk how much of that is cannon these days. Especially after the sequel trilogy.
But yeah, palps was a good guy doing very evil things so the system would have a fighting chance. But was twisted by the dark side and fucked it all up.
We all know how that turned out lol.