Why was he nerfed so hard after the first Thor movie?

Why was he nerfed so hard after the first Thor movie?

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  1. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    How? He doesn't do anything in the first Thor movie, he just casts his clone illusions to trick people into falling, gets his ass beat by Thor, and has "the destroyer" do destruction/smack Thor for him.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      He's still asgardian. He can take hits from the hulk, has super strength, knows how to fight.

      In Loki he gets into fist fights with normal humans and nearly loses.

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        Oh, I don't watch Marvel tv shows. Doesn't surprise me, in the Infinity movies Thanos strength is all over the place from scene to scene, they have no care or consistency when it comes to that shit in MCU

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          >Oh, I don't watch Marvel tv shows. Doesn't surprise me, in the Infinity movies Thanos strength is all over the place from scene to scene, they have no care or consistency when it comes to that shit in MCU

          or comics. Super stuff is a mess. I guess you have to be japanese to keep power levels consistent, and even they mess up when they start to no longer give a shit.

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        Change it to "why was he nerfed so hard after the first Avengers" then. He still had a decent showing in Dark World and Ragnarok, anyway. Infinity War was him at his most moronic.
        >I'm gonna... Le try and stab the titan in the throat in full view of everyone, including a powerful telepath
        >Nooooo, you can't use the same stone i gave you to stop my attack
        >Nooooo, don't snap my neck Thanos-sama, don't snap my n-ACK!

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          And I'm not even mentioning all the moronic shit that happened prior to that
          >No, i won't use the Infinity Stone at my disposal to teleport myself, my brother and anyone i deem important enough
          >I won't even use it to save the little children aboard the ship
          >I'll just wait until Thanos with his cronies boards the ship and beats the shit out of everyone
          >Hiding myself? Pffttt, i'll just stand there and wait until Thanos addresses me like a good little boy
          >My friend Hulk created the distraction, perhaps i should aid him while leaving an illusion to fool the Black Order?
          >Nah, it will be fine
          >I'm such a smart guy, nothing bad could ever happen to me

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        A super soldier isn't stronger nor faster than gods/demigods. A normal human/super soldier shouldnt be capable of overpowering/defeating them. It's already ridiculous when capeshit writers have normal humans overpowering and defeating Asgardians, and a super soldier like Captain America defeating Asgardians.

        >Asgardians

        I thought Loki wasn't actually an Asgardian. Does he gain their energy from being in their land for so long?

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          Asgardians and Frost Giants are comparable as far as physicality goes.

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            he's a runt

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            this high end ice giants/trolls who are also old in age could be compared to asgardians they also can use rune magic too.

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          Hes frost giant but in thor and avengers he can clearly take a ton of damage and hes highly superhuman. Like, in avengers hulk famously beats him

          Harder than Hulk?

          I miss when summoning the Hulk was almost just as bad as whatever they were fighting.

          but its an incredibly brutal beatdown. Humans, even Captain American wouldnt even be red paste after that, loki was unable to fight afterwards but still concious and didnt even need medical attention to recover afterwards.
          In later content hes a chump that basic humans (like not even powered up like cap) with h2h abilities can fight and even beat

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          no hes an ice troll or something but should still have super strength,speed,etc like thor as their species was the fictional counter part that fought asgardian ancestors.

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        mcu isn’t known for consistency.

  2. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    Strongest combat showing from Loki was stomping Pym in What If.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      He was manhandling Cap in the first Avengers, but then again the first Avengers movie was not Cap at his best.

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        A super soldier isn't stronger nor faster than gods/demigods. A normal human/super soldier shouldnt be capable of overpowering/defeating them. It's already ridiculous when capeshit writers have normal humans overpowering and defeating Asgardians, and a super soldier like Captain America defeating Asgardians.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      How was the what if series anyways? It's the only post endgame thing I've remotely any interest in, but not enough to actually check it out myself yet.

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        How you'd expect. Cool ideas, standalone episodes, but nothing mindblowing or spectacular, each episode varies in quality and everyone has their preference of the best one as it usually is with standalone episode kind of shows.

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          Thanks, I'll probably take a look one of these days then.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      I'll be honest, Loki straight up besting Pym wasn't something I really thought he was capable of especially considering how he's portrayed in his show. In theory, he should be dealing with his threats with fricking minimal effort because of how buffed his physiology is, and yet it doesn't happen.

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        Being fair to Hank, he is an old guy past his prime trying to fight a superhuman being head on because he was tricked. Even as an old guy he could kill a normal man in a fight because a single punch at ant size has the same force as a bullet but that won't work on an asgardian. Besides his suit old suit can only shrink, so growing to giant size wasn't an option.

  3. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    I mean, he isn't a fighter. He was only an Avengers level threat because of Thanos' army. And, put up against a force he's never seen, it's not surprising that he isn't prepared.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      Still more powerful than any mortal. Capes are the medium that love to make stronger people job.

  4. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    Because they 180'd on the Thor mythos from "They're Gods who's magic is like science to them" to "They're just literal aliens on another planet"

  5. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    So he could be rehabilitated.

  6. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    I don't know why the Loki series gave him so many new powers (either by him saying he has them, or by showing him using them) that he clearly didn't have in the first Avengers movie, that he clearly would've won in the first Avengers movie had he used them.

  7. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    I still think Loki out of his depth is better than Loki in command of the situation. He's funny when he's wrong-footed.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      >Loki in command of the situation
      We haven't seen this Loki since the first half of Avengers.

  8. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    why did they have him like that? I don't remember him ever chanting any spells, he could probably had just unfricked his mouth at any moment.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      The flashback in Endgame showed it was just because he was talking too much.

  9. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    Harder than Hulk?

    I miss when summoning the Hulk was almost just as bad as whatever they were fighting.

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