No, it's about having hope. The whole "carrying the fire" is a form of hope. The boy constantly wants to end himself, but learns over the course of the story to have hope, like is father. Every time something shit happens to the man and boy, they are rewarded with a small bit of fortune, because they had hope.
He doesn't say so in a direct way, but his questions betray a sense of a hopelessness. That's why the father serves as his guiding light on the journey, pushing him forward because the son is his father's hope. It's not that hard to understand. The father doesn't want to let his son's hopelessness bloom like his wive's did.
film and book are actually about innocence and the loss of it
It's the opposite, that's why the father and the son are timeless characters (and superior to most post apocalyptic characters), in the middle of the corruption and evil of the world they stood firm and incorruptible. You people need to remember the father and the son are inspired by Cormac and the son he had when he was already an old man. It's a tale of hope in the middle of despair.
question for the bookworm nerds (sorry for being rude):
i have the border trilogy and passenger/stella maris in my room, both unread. which should i read first?
(please keep in mind that my copy of the border trilogy is paperback and my copies of passenger/stella maris are hardback and i don't really like reading from hardbacks (the hard backs were cheaper when i bought them))
Have you read any of his books before?
IMO you should read the trilogy first, to get a good sense of Mccarthy's overall style. The Passenger/Stella are very different from the rest of his works, and they're also obscure and hard to get.
The Road book fricking killed me deep. Not only are the emotions several times as potent, but a lot more crazy shit happens in the book. Like there's one point where a group the Man and Boy have to hide as a group of nomads cross their path. The nomads have women amongst the crew and all of them are pregnant. Later on the Man and Boy stumble across a deserted camp of the same nomads. The Man goes to investigate the camp because they are desperate for supplies. While he's searching he finds a burnt out fireplace with a half eaten, half burnt infant in it. Things aren't spelt out, but it's clear that there are some groups who are cannibals, that force impregnate their woman just to ear the infant as food.
Thats moronic
A pregnant woman eats in order for the baby to grow inside of her. Why not just eat the food you feed her and you know not spend 9 months waiting for her to shit our a burger
They have multiple ovens going and most likely they're eating the miscarriages since those would have the greater concentration of vitamins meant for the baby. Similar to stem cell shit, eating the young to preserve the old, Kronos Goya painting, but fully realized.
>okey you guys the world went bananas >we are the few survivors left. We gonna work together if we want to make it through this >this is why we need you to see the man next to you as a walking snack, this will surely build groupe cohesion
You know there is a reason we humans left cannibalism behind in the Stone Age.
It’s unsustainable.
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It's the end of the world, those people are acting on pure cruelty, for them there's no more hope.
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Didn't everything and everyone except for humans died in road?
They mentioned that even bugs are gone
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>We gonna work together
That's where you're getting it wrong. The world is practically empty of food. People become desperate. Certain people form small groups and kill everyone else to survive.
In the movie and the books, there were locked cellars full of naked people. Half of them had limbs chopped off, because it allows the person to heal, not spoil and the other person to eat the limb.
Few people work together in this world.
They have multiple ovens going and most likely they're eating the miscarriages since those would have the greater concentration of vitamins meant for the baby. Similar to stem cell shit, eating the young to preserve the old, Kronos Goya painting, but fully realized.
What the woman ate is likely not meat. The men in the group wanted to eat meat because it's hard to find in this dead world.
>Literally children can't into thermodynamics
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It could also be not about saving up on food but lowering risk of dying
Humans due to their age possibly have variety of parasite, deceases, prions and such which are much lower in or not transmitted to newborn at all
>Things aren't spelt out, but it's clear that there are some groups who are cannibals, that force impregnate their woman just to ear the infant as food.
Anon, I have the results of your moron test.
The amount of food I calories needed to grow a child for 9 mo the is like 50000x as much as an infant child would have.
That's dumb
You're dumb.
I could see that they keep women for rape, and in a post apocalypse pregnancy happens, and you might as well eat it, but that's still a stretch, again Because a pregnant woman would eat too much food.
I don't think I could watch/read this again after I became a dad. I have a daughter, but she's just about this age, and man. It's kino of the highest order, but it's intense as frick.
The reason she acted that way was because of her Borderline Personality Disorder. It was unrelated to the plot. Cormac actually had several scenes in the novel where she's a total dramatic suicidal cheating b***h back in the good old days, too.
>Borderline Personality Disorder. >It was unrelated to the plot. Cormac actually had several scenes in the novel where she's a total dramatic suicidal cheating b***h back
bpd b***hes will hold a knife to your eye for getting a like on your ig from b***h they hate, but that pussy game redunkulous
is nobody addressing op's question because this is some pretext thread that's actually about something else?
oh well whatever, the answer is given in the movie - as her gift to them. So they wouldn't suffer the pain of missing her. To make herself a villain so with her gone they'd feel like they didn't lose anything
she reacted very realistically from what I've heard firsthand from women whenever the end of the world comes up in lighthearted discussion
actually, didn't the wife last like 6 or 7 years before she had her little emotional tantrum and gave up? that's way more effort than most women would put in
Before one of you little jokesters says >BECAUSE SHE WAS A WOMAN just remember that your mother is also a woman.
My mother is a TRANSMAN THANK YOU VERY MUCH
What if my mother beat me up as a kid
There has never been a joke about women.
aragorn kept pooping in her morning oatmeal so she was in a shitty mood
She saw bo hope for the future and wanted to die. The whole movie is about having hope and keeping the flame alive.
film and book are actually about innocence and the loss of it
No, it's about having hope. The whole "carrying the fire" is a form of hope. The boy constantly wants to end himself, but learns over the course of the story to have hope, like is father. Every time something shit happens to the man and boy, they are rewarded with a small bit of fortune, because they had hope.
>The boy constantly wants to end himself
what the frick are talking about
He doesn't say so in a direct way, but his questions betray a sense of a hopelessness. That's why the father serves as his guiding light on the journey, pushing him forward because the son is his father's hope. It's not that hard to understand. The father doesn't want to let his son's hopelessness bloom like his wive's did.
Now you carry a horn of fire so it's easier to start a new one, and dotn waste charcloth and your flint and steel, fricktard.
The little kid never wanted to kill himself.
>books have to have one theme and one theme only
correct
I ageee bro I did green text by mistake xD
Absolutely right
It's the opposite, that's why the father and the son are timeless characters (and superior to most post apocalyptic characters), in the middle of the corruption and evil of the world they stood firm and incorruptible. You people need to remember the father and the son are inspired by Cormac and the son he had when he was already an old man. It's a tale of hope in the middle of despair.
question for the bookworm nerds (sorry for being rude):
i have the border trilogy and passenger/stella maris in my room, both unread. which should i read first?
(please keep in mind that my copy of the border trilogy is paperback and my copies of passenger/stella maris are hardback and i don't really like reading from hardbacks (the hard backs were cheaper when i bought them))
Have you read any of his books before?
IMO you should read the trilogy first, to get a good sense of Mccarthy's overall style. The Passenger/Stella are very different from the rest of his works, and they're also obscure and hard to get.
The Road book fricking killed me deep. Not only are the emotions several times as potent, but a lot more crazy shit happens in the book. Like there's one point where a group the Man and Boy have to hide as a group of nomads cross their path. The nomads have women amongst the crew and all of them are pregnant. Later on the Man and Boy stumble across a deserted camp of the same nomads. The Man goes to investigate the camp because they are desperate for supplies. While he's searching he finds a burnt out fireplace with a half eaten, half burnt infant in it. Things aren't spelt out, but it's clear that there are some groups who are cannibals, that force impregnate their woman just to ear the infant as food.
Thats moronic
A pregnant woman eats in order for the baby to grow inside of her. Why not just eat the food you feed her and you know not spend 9 months waiting for her to shit our a burger
What the woman ate is likely not meat. The men in the group wanted to eat meat because it's hard to find in this dead world.
>okey you guys the world went bananas
>we are the few survivors left. We gonna work together if we want to make it through this
>this is why we need you to see the man next to you as a walking snack, this will surely build groupe cohesion
You know there is a reason we humans left cannibalism behind in the Stone Age.
It’s unsustainable.
It's the end of the world, those people are acting on pure cruelty, for them there's no more hope.
Didn't everything and everyone except for humans died in road?
They mentioned that even bugs are gone
>We gonna work together
That's where you're getting it wrong. The world is practically empty of food. People become desperate. Certain people form small groups and kill everyone else to survive.
In the movie and the books, there were locked cellars full of naked people. Half of them had limbs chopped off, because it allows the person to heal, not spoil and the other person to eat the limb.
Few people work together in this world.
They have multiple ovens going and most likely they're eating the miscarriages since those would have the greater concentration of vitamins meant for the baby. Similar to stem cell shit, eating the young to preserve the old, Kronos Goya painting, but fully realized.
>Literally children can't into thermodynamics
It could also be not about saving up on food but lowering risk of dying
Humans due to their age possibly have variety of parasite, deceases, prions and such which are much lower in or not transmitted to newborn at all
>Things aren't spelt out, but it's clear that there are some groups who are cannibals, that force impregnate their woman just to ear the infant as food.
Anon, I have the results of your moron test.
The amount of food I calories needed to grow a child for 9 mo the is like 50000x as much as an infant child would have.
That's dumb
You're dumb.
I could see that they keep women for rape, and in a post apocalypse pregnancy happens, and you might as well eat it, but that's still a stretch, again Because a pregnant woman would eat too much food.
It's not clear if the child is fully born. The Man goes up to the camp and sees a charred corpse of a baby.
I don't think I could watch/read this again after I became a dad. I have a daughter, but she's just about this age, and man. It's kino of the highest order, but it's intense as frick.
The reason she acted that way was because of her Borderline Personality Disorder. It was unrelated to the plot. Cormac actually had several scenes in the novel where she's a total dramatic suicidal cheating b***h back in the good old days, too.
>Borderline Personality Disorder.
>It was unrelated to the plot. Cormac actually had several scenes in the novel where she's a total dramatic suicidal cheating b***h back
bpd b***hes will hold a knife to your eye for getting a like on your ig from b***h they hate, but that pussy game redunkulous
is nobody addressing op's question because this is some pretext thread that's actually about something else?
oh well whatever, the answer is given in the movie - as her gift to them. So they wouldn't suffer the pain of missing her. To make herself a villain so with her gone they'd feel like they didn't lose anything
There were no BBCs in the film so she noped the frick out lmfao
she reacted very realistically from what I've heard firsthand from women whenever the end of the world comes up in lighthearted discussion
actually, didn't the wife last like 6 or 7 years before she had her little emotional tantrum and gave up? that's way more effort than most women would put in
I haven't read the book, but most Cormack characters are detestable.
>why was a woman a c**t
really!?
Same reason my gf became insufferable during covid shutdowns. They are not made for this.