because james l. brooks had a show that was a total stylistic ripoff of the simpsons and used it on the show to promote it. it was muddying the brand. and jay is yellow on the show/white in his so it was on purpose.
It wasn't. Do you know what a loaded question is? It's what OP just did. He tricked you into thinking something was true, tacitly incorporating it into his question. What worse, some people will openly fall for it, because they want to seem intelligent to the rest of the thread, and thus concoct theories to satisfy OP's query without ever verifying whether he got his facts right.
Watch out for this. Any thread that starts with the word "Why" is likely to use this technique. It might seem innocuous this time, but a lot of bad actors use it to push social agendas and other things they want the world to believe without going through the trouble having to research and approve their assertions first.
Weren’t the Simpsons writers and producers already convinced their show was in its death throes by this point so what’s the big deal?
I mean six seasons wow this show has been going on for too long dont you think gonna get cancelled any day now ahahah
It was a good episode in spite of the jay sherman shit. Literally nothing he does in the episode is funny. The classic gags are all mr burns, homer and barney
I liked the critic but seriously, he isn’t funny in A Star Is Burns. He could be replaced with a generic movie critic and the episode could retain the classic gags everyone likes.
It’s amazing. Like the dinner scene where it’s basically saying >look, Jay is even more off the wall than Homer, he can burp louder and eat more! Homer is old news, check out The Critic, on Fox!
>operating at this low level
That's the entire point of the scene, Homer gets outdone by a visiting sensation that steals the limelight, which forces him into a low place, thus pinning the focus of the episode on his conflict over holding the winning vote for the best film, thus forcing him to choose between swallowing his pride for the greater good or allowing his personal needs to grant victory to a scoundrel.
Imagine getting vicariously upset with the surface level interpretation that's just "Jay here now, go near Jay".
In a interesting sort of way, this episode is Homer's Enemy done from the opposite direction, and Homer, being more stable and well-socialized (surprising as that is!), survives the encounter.
Imagine getting cynically and inconsolably upset by it. Imagine pretending people didn't frequently clamor for and get excited by crossovers. Imagine refusing to have fun and telling yourself that the episode isn't top tier comedy because you're outraged and disgruntled over a necessary facet of free market entertainment.
I'm sorry anon, you're not a paragon of moral virtue getting outraged that media depends on advertisement. You just sound like a resentful commie shit.
It was a moment where The Simpson's turned into a pure advertisement. While the show makes fun of Jay Sherman, it also pumps him up quite a bit, and it's somewhat flattering. I think even Bart sucks up to him at one point.
It's not the worst thing to happen to the show, but it is a little bit of a dent. They should have known better than to make it this obvious, and I have a feeling they had relatively no time and not much of a choice.
It's just so odd seeing someone only perceive the content of this episode on its basest, most cynical interpretation. There's so much more going on to enjoy here in characterization and moral dilemma than just the mild bit of self-advertisement it affords. To call it a "dent" and backhanded-compliment that it's "not the worst thing" just seems wasteful and absurd to me. It's also funny as fuck.
I actually do think your point about the episode being a subtle reversal on Homer's Enemy is a fantastic point, and I had genuinely never thought of the Critic episode like that.
The episode has its bright spots---for me, an obvious one would be Barney's short film. It's a completely brilliant little piece of comedy.
I still do think that the episode feels pandering and cheap in some ways. Most sitcom episodes do, for a variety of reasons, but I do believe that the fact that Jay Sherman is not some guest voice actor, not some attempt at a breakout character, not some new strategy to change up the show, but a main character from another show on the same network, which has just started out. That simple fact of production changes the entire sense of the episode.
It's really not a bad episode of T.V., but I don't believe it was the most well-executed story it could have been. Some things are allowed to be a little disappointing.
>Be the producers and writers of one of the most succesful shows of all time. >Go on a venture to create a brand new show with all the brains that made your previous show succesful >Get cancelled >Get cancelled again >Last season is an internet cartoon animated with flash >Also gets cancelled
It’s just Matt Groening being a pretentious asshole. I never saw the episode as an advertisement for The Critic. It never felt like a crossover to me because I always felt like it wouldn't be much different if you replaced Jay Sherman with any other character in the episode.
Correct. They abandoned Matt and then expected him to lovingly let them shill their show by pretending it was a sister show to the Simpsons. As someone said, it dilutes the brand.
I don't like any simpsons episodes that feature long celebrity cameos where the celebrity just plays themself, and that would happen as early as season 2
who the fuck is Bett Midler?
>have Wolfcastle for Schwarzenegger >have Bleeding Gums for some famous jazz guy (I'm not American I have no idea who he was) >have Krusty the Klown for TV clowns >have Troy McClure as a washed up film celebrity >adapt every other celebrity straight
They went full retard.
Isnt this basically happening right now to spiderman with the naggerman kid
I cant believe that he was just created in 2011 but somehow shoe-horned into every little thing spiderman does the past 10 years
because james l. brooks had a show that was a total stylistic ripoff of the simpsons and used it on the show to promote it. it was muddying the brand. and jay is yellow on the show/white in his so it was on purpose.
and this episode was made as a way to shill the failing show that was already cancelled on another network
They didn't want to cross promote another show that they thought was derivative of their show. The Critic was pretty good in my opinion
They felt they were advertising another show.
Which is hilarious since Groening was more than happy to have a crossover with his own new show, Futurama.
Groening was happy to advertise his own show on his own show. He didn’t want to advertise another show trying to pretend to be his show.
I had no idea what The Critic was at the time. I thought this was just another episode.
>I had no idea what The Critic was at the time.
yea I think Critic was off the air when I can remember watching this in the late 1990s early 2000s, what network did the Critic run on again?
abc and then fox picked it up. this must have been when that happened
It started on NBC, got cancelled and picked up by Fox then got cancelled again
It wasn't. Do you know what a loaded question is? It's what OP just did. He tricked you into thinking something was true, tacitly incorporating it into his question. What worse, some people will openly fall for it, because they want to seem intelligent to the rest of the thread, and thus concoct theories to satisfy OP's query without ever verifying whether he got his facts right.
Watch out for this. Any thread that starts with the word "Why" is likely to use this technique. It might seem innocuous this time, but a lot of bad actors use it to push social agendas and other things they want the world to believe without going through the trouble having to research and approve their assertions first.
ok robot
Why are you gay?
Don't shoot the messenger, anon. And don't fall for loaded questions.
Answer the question, anon. Why are you gay?
yup. every thread is "let's begin by blindly accepting OP's premise"
take your meds
Funny thing is that this is a great episode. Imagine if those guys watched an episode from current year, they'd probably be embarrassed
Weren’t the Simpsons writers and producers already convinced their show was in its death throes by this point so what’s the big deal?
I mean six seasons wow this show has been going on for too long dont you think gonna get cancelled any day now ahahah
I watched the critic on locomotion. Well, my brother did
sup Memo. I watched too in loco.
Cool. What a good channel it was
The Critic always feels like it should be funnier than it is.
I remember it for the orson welles bits.
It was a good episode so fuck off Matt
It was a good episode in spite of the jay sherman shit. Literally nothing he does in the episode is funny. The classic gags are all mr burns, homer and barney
True. My favorite episode is Homer's Triple Bypass and it was done by two writers outside the writing staff and one of them was a negro.
You don't know shit. Groomers.
I liked the critic but seriously, he isn’t funny in A Star Is Burns. He could be replaced with a generic movie critic and the episode could retain the classic gags everyone likes.
It was the first instant of shilling ever
It’s amazing. Like the dinner scene where it’s basically saying
>look, Jay is even more off the wall than Homer, he can burp louder and eat more! Homer is old news, check out The Critic, on Fox!
>operating at this low level
That's the entire point of the scene, Homer gets outdone by a visiting sensation that steals the limelight, which forces him into a low place, thus pinning the focus of the episode on his conflict over holding the winning vote for the best film, thus forcing him to choose between swallowing his pride for the greater good or allowing his personal needs to grant victory to a scoundrel.
Imagine getting vicariously upset with the surface level interpretation that's just "Jay here now, go near Jay".
In a interesting sort of way, this episode is Homer's Enemy done from the opposite direction, and Homer, being more stable and well-socialized (surprising as that is!), survives the encounter.
Imagine using mental gymnastics to pretend an advertisement isn’t an ad
Imagine getting cynically and inconsolably upset by it. Imagine pretending people didn't frequently clamor for and get excited by crossovers. Imagine refusing to have fun and telling yourself that the episode isn't top tier comedy because you're outraged and disgruntled over a necessary facet of free market entertainment.
I'm sorry anon, you're not a paragon of moral virtue getting outraged that media depends on advertisement. You just sound like a resentful commie shit.
>he’s still going
The jay sherman shilling was cynical, not me
>>he’s still going
That is how a conversation works, yes. First time?
Don't cry for me, I'm already dead.
some of wolfcastle's best bits are from that episode
THEEEE SIMP SUNS
Is it just me or do they barely even use him? All I remember is him at the dinner table and him calling MacGuyver gay
It was a moment where The Simpson's turned into a pure advertisement. While the show makes fun of Jay Sherman, it also pumps him up quite a bit, and it's somewhat flattering. I think even Bart sucks up to him at one point.
It's not the worst thing to happen to the show, but it is a little bit of a dent. They should have known better than to make it this obvious, and I have a feeling they had relatively no time and not much of a choice.
It's just so odd seeing someone only perceive the content of this episode on its basest, most cynical interpretation. There's so much more going on to enjoy here in characterization and moral dilemma than just the mild bit of self-advertisement it affords. To call it a "dent" and backhanded-compliment that it's "not the worst thing" just seems wasteful and absurd to me. It's also funny as fuck.
I actually do think your point about the episode being a subtle reversal on Homer's Enemy is a fantastic point, and I had genuinely never thought of the Critic episode like that.
The episode has its bright spots---for me, an obvious one would be Barney's short film. It's a completely brilliant little piece of comedy.
I still do think that the episode feels pandering and cheap in some ways. Most sitcom episodes do, for a variety of reasons, but I do believe that the fact that Jay Sherman is not some guest voice actor, not some attempt at a breakout character, not some new strategy to change up the show, but a main character from another show on the same network, which has just started out. That simple fact of production changes the entire sense of the episode.
It's really not a bad episode of T.V., but I don't believe it was the most well-executed story it could have been. Some things are allowed to be a little disappointing.
why didn't they do a duckman episode
>Be the producers and writers of one of the most succesful shows of all time.
>Go on a venture to create a brand new show with all the brains that made your previous show succesful
>Get cancelled
>Get cancelled again
>Last season is an internet cartoon animated with flash
>Also gets cancelled
Why?
Literally too highbrow for the audience
Because it was a shitty show made by guys that piggybacked off of more talented people on their only successful projects, ALF and the Simpsons
It’s just Matt Groening being a pretentious asshole. I never saw the episode as an advertisement for The Critic. It never felt like a crossover to me because I always felt like it wouldn't be much different if you replaced Jay Sherman with any other character in the episode.
Even though we're being broadcasted on... Fox... I don't want to hear any obnoxious "hooting" and "hollering"
it stinks!
Yeah
Lovitz is made fun of all the time in the comedy community
didn't a few simpons writers and producers work on the critic? you'd think groening would wanna help them out
They left the show to make a show on a competing network, got cancelled, then came back on fox and tried to use the simpsons to try and shill it
how dare they
Correct. They abandoned Matt and then expected him to lovingly let them shill their show by pretending it was a sister show to the Simpsons. As someone said, it dilutes the brand.
don't you have some kids to rape, matt?
Why’d you post that selfie, Mike?
Honestly The Critic wasn't that funny, it also relied more on pop culture references which aged much worse than Simpsons have.
I don't like any simpsons episodes that feature long celebrity cameos where the celebrity just plays themself, and that would happen as early as season 2
who the fuck is Bett Midler?
>have Wolfcastle for Schwarzenegger
>have Bleeding Gums for some famous jazz guy (I'm not American I have no idea who he was)
>have Krusty the Klown for TV clowns
>have Troy McClure as a washed up film celebrity
>adapt every other celebrity straight
They went full retard.
This thread proves to me once again that the people who disliked the Critic episode were tastelets
Isnt this basically happening right now to spiderman with the naggerman kid
I cant believe that he was just created in 2011 but somehow shoe-horned into every little thing spiderman does the past 10 years