Why WB can't sign Cavill

There's a reason why it's so hard for WB to get Henry back.

Justice League was a miserable experience for Cavill: if a director doesn't tell an actor exactly where to look and what's on the screen during a greenscreen shoot, they're completely lost. Joss often gave nonspecific direction, like "Look over yonder to Batman." Henry would ask how far away Batman is, and Whedon would say "He's over there," basically giving a non-specific response as a joke, but everyone took this to mean Joss had no idea.

I can't believe this wasn't leaked before, but Henry and Joss had a ten-minute discussion about the "itchy" line regarding him coming back from the dead. Joss wanted the line as written and Henry didn't want to answer the question at all.

Yes, a lot of jokes were made about the mustache. Everyone knew it looked ridiculous.

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  1. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    who gives a frick

  2. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    >about the "itchy" line regarding him coming back from the dead.
    What line was this? And Whedon isn't there anymore.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      In the theatrical cut after Superman is brought back and he escapes with Lois to the Kent farm, Lois asks him how it felt to be dead and Superman answers that it was "itchy".

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      This one.

      Amy and Henry shot their parts separately here. On the day, it was Henry and a greenscreen. Very few of the reshoots involved more than three actors on the same set.

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        Cavill was right that line is stupid.

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          The fact it was reshot just for a gag is even stupider. There's even more stupid lines like "You smell good".

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            That line has a story:

            The original line was Lois surprised that Superman spoke at all, and Superman says "I didn't speak before?" This is because these are Superman's first words since coming back from the dead.

            Joss added dialogue for Superman during Heroes Park, so the line didn't make any sense anymore. It was changed to "You smell good" since that (vaguely) matched Amy Adams' lips. The line was done in ADR. You'd be surprised just how much was done in ADR.

            Usually ADR is easy in superhero movies, but no one in the Justice League wears a mask that covers their mouth, so it was harder.

            • 2 years ago
              Anonymous

              The fact that Geoff Johns needed to show Superman humiliating Batman and repeating the "Do you bleed?" line from the BvS TV spots as a "gotcha" was just fricking stupid, because they changed the entire concept of that big fight so that Superman is consciously attacking the Justice League and specially Batman out of spite.
              In the original version, which we see in the Snydercut, Superman is completely confused and isn't recognizing anyone. The whole fight is a big misunderstanding. But Johns needed to shit on Batman, so what have you.

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            Made me cringe when Lois told her parents 'He didn't die so good'.

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          Hollywood wants Superman to act more like someone like Goku. Funnily enough Toei want Goku to be more like Superman in Super.

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        Why the frick is this so saturated it's like a high schooler graded it

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          Because people complained about Man of Steel and Batman v Superman lacking color, so WB overcorrected.

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            People forget the wisdom of Allah told down on us by Mohammad's trusted scholar; you see things first with your SOUL.

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          That's another story:

          WB had an issue with Snyder's color grading. Basically, they said the dark picture wouldn't play well on home viewings (people at home usually watch TV with their lights on or have windows with natural light streaming in; in any case, light on the TV results in a washed-out image).

          That's why Whedon saturated all the colors - not just because of BvS reactions. This is also why the final battle has a red sky, to make it visually distinct from the tunnel fight.

          When you work in the industry a lot, you see the difference between film and TV directors. Lighting is different because lighting at home is different vs a theater. That's why the first Avengers has a lot of flight lighting - Joss is a TV director and it's what he's used to. Zack is a film director and he doesn't really care about lighting during home viewings because for him, the final product is seen in a theater.

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            >Basically, they said the dark picture wouldn't play well on home viewings (people at home usually watch TV with their lights on or have windows with natural light streaming in; in any case, light on the TV results in a washed-out image).
            That's pure bullshit as the Snydercut proved. Goddamn, those WB executives were full of shit.

            • 2 years ago
              Anonymous

              No one actually liked the Snyder cut, chud. Those were all proven to be bots...

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                >No one actually liked the Snyder cut, chud. Those were all proven to be bots...
                Now you're just full of shit. There's two threads going trying to support the previous WB regime. If this is what Zaslav is dealing with now then he should fire them and start fresh with a creative team at DC who actually wants to make great products.

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            >(people at home usually watch TV with their lights on or have windows with natural light streaming in; in any case, light on the TV results in a washed-out image)
            Those aren't people. Those are subhumans.
            I never, ever watched movies in the daytime when I had a shithole apartment.

  3. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    I also heard the rumor that Henry Cavill felt humilated by the theatrical outing of the Justice League and wants creative control so that he'll never have the same experience again regarding the role.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      If there was one actor I'd trust with creative control over their character, it's Henry Cavill as Superman.

  4. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    The biggest mistake was getting rid of Chris Nolan as a producer. He knew who to trust and what the plan was.

  5. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    >Why WB can't sign Cavill
    He is still contracted for one more appearance. Also your spacing leads me to think you need to go back to plebbit or twitter.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      >He is still contracted for one more appearance.
      How does the time-clause for that stuff work? Not like they could pop in 4 decades and have him do an old superman flick.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      >He is still contracted for one more appearance.
      How does the time-clause for that stuff work? Not like they could pop in 4 decades and have him do an old superman flick.

      The contract was done because of the Snydercut. WB used that cut as an excuse to fulfill a lot of the requirements for those contracts

  6. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Henry Cavill should come back to Superman now. Like, right now. They’ve got a proper leader now in David Zazlav, and a clear 10 year plan. Zazlav firmly believes in Superman as a top tier world class brand. There will literally never be a better time to be Superman than the next 10 years (2022-2032) under this regime.

  7. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    One more thing: the Steppenwolf actor basically never interacted with the cast after Zack left. He was in a mocap suit on a set alone, didn't understand the new additions, and hated everything.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      Tell more.

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        Not much to say on that front. He was confused during reshoots and Joss didn't help matters.

        I wasn't there when the Russian family scenes were shot, but apparently they weren't informed about the story either. They might not have known what movie they were working on, but that's common if you're not playing a main character.

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          Is it true that Ben Affleck almost punched Joss Whedon?

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            If true, I didn't see it.

            Directors get replaced all the time and usually nothing bad happens. The fastest way for a replacement director to lose the trust of the cast and crew is to insult the guy who left.

            • 2 years ago
              Anonymous

              There is this rumor that Ben Affleck tried to punch Joss Whedon, but also held back by Jason Mamoa, who brought Affleck to his own trailer and kept him there so everyone could cool off. There are pics of them drinking in said trailer.

              This was in a Reddit thread with several other rumors, that eventually were sorta confirmed by an article The Hollywood Reporter made. Well, some of the rumors were confirmed, not this particular one.

              Can you confirm any of pic related?

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                I can't confirm the fighting, but the Aquaman fins line was real. There were a few other Aquaman jokes that didn't make it.

                Gal's stand-in was used for the Flash falling scene.

                In general, actors aren't usually told what scenes will be cut, but when they reshoot an existing scene, there's an understanding the old version will be gone.

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                Does everyone working on these films including the actors think this entire franchise is shit and a mess?

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                They always look ridiculous on set. People talking to thin air, people on wires, a director shouting "monster!" when really it's just two guys holding a monster head. But a good director says "This will look really cool when it's done" and you believe them.

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                You a PA?

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                >the one female cast member had the biggest problems with Joss
                Why is it always the male feminists? Meanwhile le heckin fascist Snyder has his girl- ahem, female friends, kiss on camera for fun

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                The fact that Joss Whedon threatened Gal Gadot's career is just fricking wild. I think back then Whedon was completely over his head thinking he was invincible. Only that could explain threatening a israeli woman's career.

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                Whos KT? What boob faceplant scene? Sorry I only watched this movie once

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                Kevin Tsujihara, the then Warner Bros President.
                In the theatrical cut there's a visual gag where the Flash falls on top of Wonder Woman, with his face on her boob armor. This was something Joss Whedon added. He did the same in Age of Ultron with Bruce Banner/Hulk and Black Widow.

  8. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    No. They really really don't want him back because they don't want a white superman. They just think they will have to settle with "normal" to keep the universe on life support

  9. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    well he doesn't have to worry about that anymore since SNYDER is back and restored - a director loved by all who've worked with him

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