why'd they make him so old and frail? he's described as looking like he's in his 30s

why'd they make him so old and frail? he's described as looking like he's in his 30s

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  1. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    hollywood is notorious for emasculating white men

    their israelitery knows no bounds

  2. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >I love using the public urinal on Arrakis, and I pull my wiener out, and as I pull it out, I back up, so other fremen can see it in the bathroom. And I look at my penis and put it in my hand and I say to it : May I have this dance?
    Was this line featured in the book? I can't see how this contributes to the plot.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Overcoming homosexuality with Orange Catholic baking

  3. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >but in DA BoOk

    who cares you flaming homosexual

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Go be a Black person elsewhere

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      it's a change that served no purpose other than making the emperor look weak. i bet they just really, really wanted walken no matter what
      of course film adaptations have to make compromises, but this doesn't make sense

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >it's a change that served no purpose other than making the emperor look weak.
        Are you autistic? That is obviously the point of the change.

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          They wanted the Emperor to be representative of a decayed and dying Empire, of the old men who cling to power through their monopoly on violence and control of the means of production. The books are incredibly inconsistent about spice preventing aging anyways

          the emperor was cunning and controlled the most dangerous army of all time, he would've succeeded if it wasn't for paul and the fremen. what does making him so pathetic achieve?

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            He was cucked out of having a male heir by the bene genesserit, and was the pawn of the spacing guild, he is pathetic, you just red the wiki

            • 4 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              > By the time of Shaddam IV, while they were still formidable, their strength had been sapped by overconfidence, and the sustaining mystique of their warrior religion had been deeply undermined by cynicism.
              The Emperor in the books was being controlled by the Bene Gesserit and had allowed the Sardaukar army to become weak/weaker (similar to how the Fremen become weak in the later books).

              It makes it obvious to idiots in the audience that the bene gessereit is making the decisions

              you don't have to be weak and pathetic to be controlled by the BG, pretty much everyone but paul were

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                He was one of the few characters in the books to be tricked into marrying a Bene Gesserit (giving them complete control over him) and he failed as a military leader even though he was given the most powerful army in existence. He may not be 'pathetic' but he certainly was not cunning or smart when compared to the major players in the book.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            > By the time of Shaddam IV, while they were still formidable, their strength had been sapped by overconfidence, and the sustaining mystique of their warrior religion had been deeply undermined by cynicism.
            The Emperor in the books was being controlled by the Bene Gesserit and had allowed the Sardaukar army to become weak/weaker (similar to how the Fremen become weak in the later books).

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            It makes it obvious to idiots in the audience that the bene gessereit is making the decisions

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        They wanted the Emperor to be representative of a decayed and dying Empire, of the old men who cling to power through their monopoly on violence and control of the means of production. The books are incredibly inconsistent about spice preventing aging anyways

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          also how was his empire decayed and dying?

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            because it had to start murdering major houses because its aging monarch had become full of paranoid delusions due to being completely controlled by a bunch of israelite-aligned space nuns, then immediately collapsed overnight because of a local rebellion of goat herders

            • 4 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              >paranoid delusions
              what? the artreides house was a legitimate threat and he lamented killing the duke, the man he wished was his son
              >goat herders
              you mean the greatest army of all time led by a god-like figure?

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >Whoah people like this guy
                >Better murder him and his entire family because he M I G H T threaten me someday

                This is normal, justifiable behavior to fascists

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                You keep guns unloaded and locked up because otherwise someone could use them improperly. The Emperor unloaded House Atreides

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                such is politics in the dune universe

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                House Atredis and Harkonnen had been beefing under the official limited warfare allowed within the landsraad (forget the actual name for this) for centuries. Duke Leto was extremely popular and was building up his military to such a degree that it was nearing parody with the imperial army. The Emperor was so scared by his growing military might and political influence that he felt it necessary to secretly tip the scales of balance in the house wars in the Harkonnens favor. Its not really some insane paraoid plot like you make it out to be.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >parody

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                The Dune universe is a very doggy dog one anon.

            • 4 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              It's not paranoia to nip potential rivals in the bud; in fact its a responsible use of power. Duke Leto was so popular in the Landsraad and had such a powerful army that he could have started a civil war

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                and then it immediately blew up in his face because he violated the entire social contract of the Empire. Even if Paul hadn't led t he Fremen uprising Shaddam would have probably been deposed not too soon after

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >had such a powerful army
                this isn't showcased well in any adaptation, i dunno if it's better in the book. there's 20 guys in his army.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                The atreidies forces are small but of very high quality, maybe a match for Sardaukar man-for-man. They die like b***hes in part one though, in the book they put up a much better fight.

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >The books are incredibly inconsistent about spice preventing aging anyways
          this, Paul aged like 30 years in a decade even though he was force fed spice 24/7

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        It served the purpose of not having to waste time explaining why an old man looks like he's in his thirties while at the same time the Fremen that have been huffing spice for all their lives look exactly their age. Why go to all that trouble for a character that appears all of 90 cumulative seconds in the film and also has no contribution to the plot other than passing the torch.

  4. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >My father, the Padishah Emperor, was 72 yet looked no more than 35 the year he encompassed the death of Duke Leto and gave Arrakis back to the Harkonnens
    Denny is a hack

  5. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    humiliation ritual

  6. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Nothing about the character requires being a specific age. Overrated, unimportant mouth piece.

  7. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Why did they make the Baron skinnier?
    Why did they make the Spice female?
    Why did they make the Harkonnens bald?
    Why did they give the sandworms bristles?
    Why did they remove Paul and Chani's first child?
    Why did they get rid of the Arrakis feast?
    Why did they get rid of the Spice Orgy?
    Why did they get rid of Baron slaying Alia?

    Dune is like theater. Every director's vision is different.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Why did they get rid of Count Fenring?

  8. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Do people who didnt read the book have any idea what is even going on in the movie? Because I watched it last night and the entire thing felt so rushed and disjointed to the point where it almost didnt make sense what was going on.

    The Emperor character really was so boring too. Just an old guy in a robe barely acting or doing anything. Hes just kind of there. I get that he isnt featured a lot in the book, but his character did have some magnatism to it.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Christopher Walken felt out of place but I enjoyed his presence even then. He felt intimidating when he incapacitated the Baron, personally.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        He felt wasted. Denny really leaned into the weirdness of the Dune universe, and Walken can be a sort of bizarre and weird actor himself, but he doesnt really do much with him.

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          I can agree that he felt underused. They show us planets Caladan and Giedi Prime, home worlds of the Atreides and Harkonnens, but they don't really bother showing us much of planet Kaitan. We barely even see into the building the Emperor's in.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Yeah the movies are horrible trash. Literally no context to anything at all. You just kinda have to sit there and accept that this is this and that is that with no explanation. Everything comes and goes so quickly it’s hard to care about anything. The movie basically just expects you to care because BRO ITS DUNE. So many laughably bad parts. Like when they casually mention Pauls mom is Harkonnen. Then just don’t elaborate at all. Acting was also pretty horrible. Tim sucked Zandaya sucked. You really need to just be a low IQ consooooomer to even enjoy these movies. Like who the frick even asked for Dune anyway? Who even cares outside a small population's of scifi nerds. Why are they hyping up this shit that they are obviously trying to make in to another drawn out franchise?

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        I would say timmy and rebecca gave good overall peeformances

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >This Muadib guy is a messiah figure of the fremen and is leading them on a war that is halting spice production
        >I know, lets stop him by using this psychotic bald goth freak and just like make him their prophet instead!
        >Goth freak goes to Dune and then just bombs the Fremen mountain base (I guess no one ever thought of that before)
        >There are then ZERO efforts to even attempt to make the fremen worship the goth freak and he instead just rules the planet as a dictator
        I seriously think Denny and his crew are stupid and didnt understand what was going on in the books.

  9. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    denis is a pleb

  10. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >Walken is in the Weapon of Choice music video
    >the song has several references to Lynch's Dune
    >Walken plays the Emperor in DUNC
    Fatboy Slim was the Kwisatz Haderach all along! Lisan al Ghaib!

  11. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    The Emperor wasn’t even the most powerful political player—that would be the Spacing Guild—the true transporters of politics. Without them, politics cannot proceed. Their monopoly on the spice is so significant they may as well doubly be known as the Spicing Guild, lul.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      This. Their Navigators are always a step ahead of everyone, and they treat the empire like a host body, refusing to actually be involved in any of its matters as long as they continue spacing/spicing.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >Denny cut them out entirely except for one brief scene in the first movie
      Bravo Denny!

      I really liked how you dont get this in the book until the very end when the Emperor is yelling at Paul and the Spacing Guild reps tell him to shut up and he immediately backs down.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >one brief scene in the first movie
        What was that scene? I don't remember the Spacing Guild being depicted at all

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          The ceremony of Leto officially accepting control of Dune. There are a couple of guys in white space suits with an orange mist

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      This. Their Navigators are always a step ahead of everyone, and they treat the empire like a host body, refusing to actually be involved in any of its matters as long as they continue spacing/spicing.

      >being so politically tantamount you transcend politics altogether
      Based

  12. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    It works better if he's older. A 30yr old with an adult princess as his daughter is a bit rubbish
    >also it makes more sense for an aging emperor to get upset about a potential rival (house attredies)taking over his empire and legacy in his twilight years.

  13. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >why did they use visuals in a visual medium

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