Decolonialization is an extremely complicated matter with even people who agree on most points can have very serious disagreements on important matters.
>Decolonialization is an extremely complicated matter with even people who agree on most points can have very serious disagreements on important matters.
True. But Mai's father was leading a terrorist group that would have burned Zuko and his family alive if not for Zuko ass-pulling one of best firebending feats in the franchise.
Like I don't expect Mai to be hung, but at least have Zuko or someone get anger at her and/or have Mai promise to do better instead of sidestepping the issue.
And she's calling him a traitor for doing that against terrorist? I expected multiple dancing opinions from the fire Nations but not someone who's supposed to be a good person with that nonsense.
>I wonder if peak Zuko became stronger than Iroh and Ozai.
Smoke and Shadow Azula already suprassed the two and can probably take them both on at the same time if her abilities stack they way they are implied too and she isn't holding back.
North and South Zuko defeats Ozai in a similar fashion to the way he defeated Azula all but in name during the Final Agni Kai if he can always redirect as much fire as he did in
>Decolonialization is an extremely complicated matter with even people who agree on most points can have very serious disagreements on important matters.
True. But Mai's father was leading a terrorist group that would have burned Zuko and his family alive if not for Zuko ass-pulling one of best firebending feats in the franchise.
Like I don't expect Mai to be hung, but at least have Zuko or someone get anger at her and/or have Mai promise to do better instead of sidestepping the issue.
So imo, I think peak Zuko can probably stomp Ozai and Iroh together, especially if he learns lightning and/or smokebending considering his old friends pic implies that he learned to combine his swords with his firebending.
>That was unrelated to decolonization, they literally just wanted Zuko dead cause they liked Ozai and the war better.
Ukano's (proffered) motivation was in part anger over the Yu Dao situation as well as Zuko giving the youngest colonies like Omashu back to the Earth Kingdom.
Probably not. It's a kid's series and this is a very adult situation. Mai and her family should have been exiled, executed, or imprisoned for life. But we can't have that in a kid's show. Just let her go because that's what a good guy would do.
>Just let her go because that's what a good guy would do.
But isn't there a huge difference between showing mercy and not holding someone accountable in any fashion tho?
That's also a very adult thought. Kids are generally taught that violence is not the only answer, so even if someone betrays your entire family and state you should let them go because only bad people choose to kill.
>That's also a very adult thought. Kids are generally taught that violence is not the only answer, so even if someone betrays your entire family and state you should let them go because only bad people choose to kill.
So, even if it was too quick to realistic, the Gaang didn't let Zuko stay with them until he tried stopping Combustion Man, showing he had changed. And they didn't fully accept him into the group until he went on life-changing field trips with each of the Gaang members he hunted down in S1.
Like I am not expecting Mai to get killed or exiled, but at least she can face some accountablity, a concept I think kids understand are thought, right?
[...] >Azula should have received much worse.
Realistically, Azula should have either gotten de-bended and thrown into jail for life or killed. Cause suggesting and trying to carry out genocide is considering irredeemable in IRL, and I don't think her age will save her considering she looks much older than she is and was the second of command of the Fire Nation.
Frick off, morons.
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Anonymous
>Frick off, morons.
Why?
2 years ago
Anonymous
Cause we're not doing the 'Ashtually, post-show Azula story should have been moronic torture porn unlike anything else done in the show or even IRL war prisoners, let alone prisoner royalty' shit again. Just stop it. We already passed a year having threads like that every single week.
2 years ago
Anonymous
>Cause we're not doing the 'Ashtually, post-show Azula story should have been moronic torture porn unlike anything else done in the show or even IRL war prisoners, let alone prisoner royalty' shit again. Just stop it. We already passed a year having threads like that every single week.
The Red Lotus got thrown into solitary inhumane conditions for 17 years just for attempting to kidnapping a young Avatar the White Lotus and Zuko and you think Azula, who actually killed an Avatar, would get less of a punishment if not Bryke desire to keep using her as a villain?
Also, the "royals do not hurt other royals for fear of setting precedent" doesn't really apply in ATLA considering Ozai had issued dead or alive warrants for Zuko and Iroh in S2, Ozai put Iroh in a dank cell in the first half of S3, and Zuko put Ozai in a dank cell for the rest of his life.
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Anonymous
I don't care that LOK added more garbage, it doesn't make that shit not garbage. >doesn't really apply >Goes on to name multiple occasions were someone was just imprisoned unarmed instead of anything being done to them
Only reason Ozai even got his bending removed is because he was just too strong to contain during the comet, making killing him or spirit bending him the only two viable choices.
Aang would never remove someone's bending when they can easily be contained in a normal facility and have already been defeated.
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Anonymous
>>Goes on to name multiple occasions were someone was just imprisoned unarmed instead of anything being done to them
If this was IRL, Ozai would have forced Zuko and Iroh into exile in a cushy place, with Zuko the same with Ozai, not throw, or attempt to throw, each other in horrible prison conditions.
>Only reason Ozai even got his bending removed is because he was just too strong to contain during the comet, making killing him or spirit bending him the only two viable choices. >Aang would never remove someone's bending when they can easily be contained in a normal facility and have already been defeated.
The moment Aang regain the Avatar State, he could have waited until Sozin's Comet was over to restraint Ozai without de-bending him. Also, the only implied answer for why he didn't de-bend Azula is because she was a child considering he didn't expect Azula to be let out of her asylum.
>I don't care that LOK added more garbage, it doesn't make that shit not garbage.
Look, in a perfect world, Bryke retcons LoK or massively rewrites so the future of the franchsie isn't hamstrung by it. By Bryke won't, so it is sadly canon to ATLA as much as we all wish it wasn't.
2 years ago
Anonymous
>he could have waited until Sozin's Comet was over to restraint Ozai without de-bending him.
He couldn't, this was a fight and it would only take seconds for Ozai to free himself, are you really that dumb? >Also, the only implied answer
It's not. >he didn't expect Azula to be let out of her asylum.
Literally headcanon, he didn't expect Zuko to take her out to search for their mom before she was healed, that's it.
So now we're going back to where it started: Frick off, moron, we're not doing that again.
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Anonymous
>He couldn't, this was a fight and it would only take seconds for Ozai to free himself, are you really that dumb?
Anon, AS Aang was ragdolling Ozai and managed to get him into earth cuffs that he couldn't break out off. Like Aang had to de-bend Ozai because it would lame for Aang to win without real work on his end, but why didn't Aang keep Ozai in those earth cuffs till the end of Sozin's Comet?
>>Also, the only implied answer >It's not.
So why didn't Aang de-bend Azula then?
>That's also a very adult thought. Kids are generally taught that violence is not the only answer, so even if someone betrays your entire family and state you should let them go because only bad people choose to kill.
So, even if it was too quick to realistic, the Gaang didn't let Zuko stay with them until he tried stopping Combustion Man, showing he had changed. And they didn't fully accept him into the group until he went on life-changing field trips with each of the Gaang members he hunted down in S1.
Like I am not expecting Mai to get killed or exiled, but at least she can face some accountablity, a concept I think kids understand are thought, right?
Azula should have received much worse. "Time out" is a very childish punishment.
>Azula should have received much worse.
Realistically, Azula should have either gotten de-bended and thrown into jail for life or killed. Cause suggesting and trying to carry out genocide is considering irredeemable in IRL, and I don't think her age will save her considering she looks much older than she is and was the second of command of the Fire Nation.
Wait...I thought Mai's defining character trait was her love for Zuko? Why would she ever commit treason against Zuko, and for her father out of all people considering she couldn't wait to leave him, along with the rest of her family, in Omashu?
>I thought Mai's defining character trait was her love for Zuko?
...why the frick would you think that? I know Mai is kind of a 2-bit nothing character but of all things how did you conclude that was her defining character trait?
>..why the frick would you think that? I know Mai is kind of a 2-bit nothing character but of all things how did you conclude that was her defining character trait?
Because her defining moment in the show is betraying Azula to ensure that Zuko lived, even if she thought he was a traitor, since she loved him more than she feared Azula.
>Mai centered thread
while Zuko is memed a lot, mostly for (You)s, all the comics did was turn him into a stereotypical good guy - with all the mandatory boring traits
and while it's annoying and boring in equal amounts, he hadn't been nearly as shafted as Mai, turning from a somehow complex character into an annoying drama queen that is so shit, that people would rather see her die than learn from her mistakes and grow
only reason I am personally more upset about what they had done to Azula is because the princes is my favorite character, but a big F for everyone that liked Mai in the oryginal show
He can go cry about it to Azula if he wants too. She knows all about it.
Also non canon.
Women are just like that, it's Zukos fault for not immediately remembering that anything resembling a pussyoid is a lying prostitute
Decolonialization is an extremely complicated matter with even people who agree on most points can have very serious disagreements on important matters.
>Decolonialization is an extremely complicated matter with even people who agree on most points can have very serious disagreements on important matters.
True. But Mai's father was leading a terrorist group that would have burned Zuko and his family alive if not for Zuko ass-pulling one of best firebending feats in the franchise.
Like I don't expect Mai to be hung, but at least have Zuko or someone get anger at her and/or have Mai promise to do better instead of sidestepping the issue.
And she's calling him a traitor for doing that against terrorist? I expected multiple dancing opinions from the fire Nations but not someone who's supposed to be a good person with that nonsense.
>three randos thinking they can take on the FL
Peak deilussion
I wonder if peak Zuko became stronger than Iroh and Ozai.
>I wonder if peak Zuko became stronger than Iroh and Ozai.
Smoke and Shadow Azula already suprassed the two and can probably take them both on at the same time if her abilities stack they way they are implied too and she isn't holding back.
North and South Zuko defeats Ozai in a similar fashion to the way he defeated Azula all but in name during the Final Agni Kai if he can always redirect as much fire as he did in
So imo, I think peak Zuko can probably stomp Ozai and Iroh together, especially if he learns lightning and/or smokebending considering his old friends pic implies that he learned to combine his swords with his firebending.
That was unrelated to decolonization, they literally just wanted Zuko dead cause they liked Ozai and the war better.
>That was unrelated to decolonization, they literally just wanted Zuko dead cause they liked Ozai and the war better.
Ukano's (proffered) motivation was in part anger over the Yu Dao situation as well as Zuko giving the youngest colonies like Omashu back to the Earth Kingdom.
Probably not. It's a kid's series and this is a very adult situation. Mai and her family should have been exiled, executed, or imprisoned for life. But we can't have that in a kid's show. Just let her go because that's what a good guy would do.
>Just let her go because that's what a good guy would do.
But isn't there a huge difference between showing mercy and not holding someone accountable in any fashion tho?
That's also a very adult thought. Kids are generally taught that violence is not the only answer, so even if someone betrays your entire family and state you should let them go because only bad people choose to kill.
It didn't stop him from shoving Azula into the looney house until it was time to find mommy.
Azula should have received much worse. "Time out" is a very childish punishment.
Frick off, morons.
>Frick off, morons.
Why?
Cause we're not doing the 'Ashtually, post-show Azula story should have been moronic torture porn unlike anything else done in the show or even IRL war prisoners, let alone prisoner royalty' shit again. Just stop it. We already passed a year having threads like that every single week.
>Cause we're not doing the 'Ashtually, post-show Azula story should have been moronic torture porn unlike anything else done in the show or even IRL war prisoners, let alone prisoner royalty' shit again. Just stop it. We already passed a year having threads like that every single week.
The Red Lotus got thrown into solitary inhumane conditions for 17 years just for attempting to kidnapping a young Avatar the White Lotus and Zuko and you think Azula, who actually killed an Avatar, would get less of a punishment if not Bryke desire to keep using her as a villain?
Also, the "royals do not hurt other royals for fear of setting precedent" doesn't really apply in ATLA considering Ozai had issued dead or alive warrants for Zuko and Iroh in S2, Ozai put Iroh in a dank cell in the first half of S3, and Zuko put Ozai in a dank cell for the rest of his life.
I don't care that LOK added more garbage, it doesn't make that shit not garbage.
>doesn't really apply
>Goes on to name multiple occasions were someone was just imprisoned unarmed instead of anything being done to them
Only reason Ozai even got his bending removed is because he was just too strong to contain during the comet, making killing him or spirit bending him the only two viable choices.
Aang would never remove someone's bending when they can easily be contained in a normal facility and have already been defeated.
>>Goes on to name multiple occasions were someone was just imprisoned unarmed instead of anything being done to them
If this was IRL, Ozai would have forced Zuko and Iroh into exile in a cushy place, with Zuko the same with Ozai, not throw, or attempt to throw, each other in horrible prison conditions.
>Only reason Ozai even got his bending removed is because he was just too strong to contain during the comet, making killing him or spirit bending him the only two viable choices.
>Aang would never remove someone's bending when they can easily be contained in a normal facility and have already been defeated.
The moment Aang regain the Avatar State, he could have waited until Sozin's Comet was over to restraint Ozai without de-bending him. Also, the only implied answer for why he didn't de-bend Azula is because she was a child considering he didn't expect Azula to be let out of her asylum.
>I don't care that LOK added more garbage, it doesn't make that shit not garbage.
Look, in a perfect world, Bryke retcons LoK or massively rewrites so the future of the franchsie isn't hamstrung by it. By Bryke won't, so it is sadly canon to ATLA as much as we all wish it wasn't.
>he could have waited until Sozin's Comet was over to restraint Ozai without de-bending him.
He couldn't, this was a fight and it would only take seconds for Ozai to free himself, are you really that dumb?
>Also, the only implied answer
It's not.
>he didn't expect Azula to be let out of her asylum.
Literally headcanon, he didn't expect Zuko to take her out to search for their mom before she was healed, that's it.
So now we're going back to where it started: Frick off, moron, we're not doing that again.
>He couldn't, this was a fight and it would only take seconds for Ozai to free himself, are you really that dumb?
Anon, AS Aang was ragdolling Ozai and managed to get him into earth cuffs that he couldn't break out off. Like Aang had to de-bend Ozai because it would lame for Aang to win without real work on his end, but why didn't Aang keep Ozai in those earth cuffs till the end of Sozin's Comet?
>>Also, the only implied answer
>It's not.
So why didn't Aang de-bend Azula then?
>That's also a very adult thought. Kids are generally taught that violence is not the only answer, so even if someone betrays your entire family and state you should let them go because only bad people choose to kill.
So, even if it was too quick to realistic, the Gaang didn't let Zuko stay with them until he tried stopping Combustion Man, showing he had changed. And they didn't fully accept him into the group until he went on life-changing field trips with each of the Gaang members he hunted down in S1.
Like I am not expecting Mai to get killed or exiled, but at least she can face some accountablity, a concept I think kids understand are thought, right?
>Azula should have received much worse.
Realistically, Azula should have either gotten de-bended and thrown into jail for life or killed. Cause suggesting and trying to carry out genocide is considering irredeemable in IRL, and I don't think her age will save her considering she looks much older than she is and was the second of command of the Fire Nation.
Wait...I thought Mai's defining character trait was her love for Zuko? Why would she ever commit treason against Zuko, and for her father out of all people considering she couldn't wait to leave him, along with the rest of her family, in Omashu?
>I thought Mai's defining character trait was her love for Zuko?
...why the frick would you think that? I know Mai is kind of a 2-bit nothing character but of all things how did you conclude that was her defining character trait?
>..why the frick would you think that? I know Mai is kind of a 2-bit nothing character but of all things how did you conclude that was her defining character trait?
Because her defining moment in the show is betraying Azula to ensure that Zuko lived, even if she thought he was a traitor, since she loved him more than she feared Azula.
Otherwise, she is just a generic henchwoman.
Mai being a treacherous b***h is nothing new.
No, and if they do, they'll manage to pin it on Azula.
Will they ever address if she was an anal queen or a throat goat?
Toph gave him a nice foot tug and mouth hug.
Best to cut her off and move on
>Toph gave him a nice foot tug and mouth hug.
Meaning?
Calmed him down like his mom or nurse did
Sh made him cum till he felt better like a good friend
how come this thread is more autistic than the zutara one?
>how come this thread is more autistic than the zutara one?
Cause it is a Mai centered thread, why?
>Mai centered thread
while Zuko is memed a lot, mostly for (You)s, all the comics did was turn him into a stereotypical good guy - with all the mandatory boring traits
and while it's annoying and boring in equal amounts, he hadn't been nearly as shafted as Mai, turning from a somehow complex character into an annoying drama queen that is so shit, that people would rather see her die than learn from her mistakes and grow
only reason I am personally more upset about what they had done to Azula is because the princes is my favorite character, but a big F for everyone that liked Mai in the oryginal show
>what was her damn problem
There is absolutely no sane discussion of the Avatar franchise in the present day, what did you expect?
no