William Shatner thinks Gene Roddenberry is "twirling in his grave" over new Star Trek

Is he right, Cinemaphile?

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  1. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >strict rules

    like not doing podcasts, huh bill?

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Let it go Mike

  2. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Yes, Bill. You're right.

  3. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Who can honestly say he's wrong?

  4. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Reminder.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      It's funny because out of all the Nu-Trek, Lower Decks is the only one that actually feels like a Star Trek show.

      STD and PIC are abortions.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Lower Drecks is the worst thing that ever happened to this franchise. Just complete franchise poison. STD didn't do nearly as much damage.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >STD didn't do nearly as much damage.
          STD was so horrifying that most people decided it would be best to memoryhole it.
          Lezzie Dykes invited all of the XD BACON NARWHAL HOLDS UP SPORK people into the fandom and they're still here

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >Lower Drecks is the worst thing that ever happened to this franchise.
          Impossible since the first season of Picard exists.

          [...]

          STD is absolute garbage and there's no possible way of arguing otherwise. At least PIC has the minor nostalgia thrill of seeing the original cast even if that's the only thing it ever had going for it.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >Impossible since the first season of Picard exists.
            this. a thousand times this.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >STD is absolute garbage and there's no possible way of arguing otherwise
            It is! But it can be easily tossed aside and forgotten.
            But Lower Drecks is franchise poison. The moment a serious sci-fi franchise just decides to take the piss and do self-parody, it's over. You just can't walk that back. It completely killed its image, no one will ever treat it seriously again. Even live-action shows are now following in its footstep and doing franchise pastiche. Star Trek is now a comedy franchise -- forever.

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              >But Lower Drecks is franchise poison.
              PIC and STD were so bad they halted production on all the other series that were in the works. The average person doesn't even know what LD or Prodigies even exist is since they're so niche but they know that PIC and STD were dumpster fires.

              You're delusional if you think that PIC and STD didn't kill nu-trek. The fact that the two animated shows are so much better in comparison that they're considered the 'best' of nu-trek should tell you everything you need to know.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >The average person doesn't even know what LD or Prodigies even exist is since they're so niche
                That's not the point. And Prodigy actually treats Star Trek with proper respect, but I digress.
                It's how Lezzie Dykes infected the writing on other shows. SNW musical shit, a Starfleet Academy show about a bunch of teenagers partying and doing drugs, those awful animated Short Treks -- it all stems from LD.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                explain to me how lower decks made std unwatchable 3 years prior to it's release.

                I'll wait.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                i think academy is going to get canned or downgraded to a 3 hour special. doesnt work unless theres a tng tier series to play off of.
                nobody gives a shit about STD or PIC characters and SNW already introduced all the TOS characters and PRO is already covering everything else. hard to believe they think anyone is going to tune in for some genric young adult drama like star trek: yellowjackets

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                I'm still waiting btw

                explain to me how lower decks made std unwatchable 3 years prior to it's release.

                I'll wait.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                I already explained it. STD was horrible but it can be easily be memory-holed. Whereas Lezzie Decks turned Star Trek into a joke.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                But you didn't explain how a show that came out years after STD made the first season of STD unwatchable trash.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >how a show that came out years after STD made the first season of STD unwatchable trash
                But that's not what I said. I said that it's responsible for all horrible Trek shows made AFTER Discovery and Picard.
                You can see how SNW leans into that pastiche parody angle compared to the dreariness of STD and Hispanic.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >But that's not what I said.
                But that's exactly what you said. You said it infected the other shows and made them shit but STD was shit from the very first episode, how can it infect it when it was unwatchable trash from the start?

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >made them shit
                Yes, but a different kind of shit. Paramount is now making a Starfleet Academy show about a bunch of sarcastic zoomers and their teenage adventures because the cartoon paved the way.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                his point is STD was already unwatchable trash, now its unwatchable trash that can't be ignored.

                to reiterate further, pickletrek permanently cemented the direction nutrek was going to take. the course could've been corrected after/during STD, now the brand is pretty much permanently poisoned.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >now its unwatchable trash that can't be ignored.
                It couldn't be ignored from the start. You can't lower the quality of something that's already rock bottom.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                again, pickletrek firmly established the quality was never going to improve. rock bottom was all that nutrek was ever going to be.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >pickletrek firmly established the quality was never going to improve.
                No, that would be PIC cementing that nu-trek isn't star trek and it began production work far before LD. You're delusional if you think that LD somehow turned the franchise into trash when it began with the new Star Trek movies and PIC put the nail in the coffin.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                again, established there not only wouldn't be improvement, they'd make fun of anyone who think there should be.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >established there not only wouldn't be improvement, they'd make fun of anyone who think there should be.
                really trekka?

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                no one knew short treks even existed until one of the STD episodes had a callback to it.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                what a strange thing to lie about

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                its the only bit of nutrek that's actually been canceled. which is all that needs to be said about how no one watched it.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Everyone laughed at the one where captain girl power shits on the incompetent male buffoon

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                it sat on the streaming platform, unwatched, for a long time before that happened.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >It couldn't be ignored from the start
                STD is just a bad show that can be retconned. Whereas Lower Drecks completely changed the direction of the franchise. Star Trek is now shitty millennial comedy.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >STD is just a bad show that can be retconned.
                You say that, but they clearly decided to use it as a base for all other series, making it impossible to retcon. Nu-trek is an abortion that never should've been made but you homosexuals who actually go to these general threads have been buck broken by one moron that you don't want to filter and think that what they shill for is the cause when it's a mere symptom.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >using the a homosexual black man's sexual fantasy maymay
                zoom.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Even in this thread you morons can't stop replying to them and acknowledging them. Why do zoomers not know how to deal with trolls?

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >you're calling me a moron? i win!

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                But you are a moron.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >no u
                lol

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                I hope you heal.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >get laughed at
                >i h-hope you h-heal

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >making it impossible to retcon
                You're lacking in imagination, fren. But yes, all of Kurtzman Trek has to be surgically removed from canon if Star Trek wants to be move forward. But now thanks to those cartoon homosexuals, I don't think it can even move forward.
                How can you expect something like The Inner Light to coexist in the same world as a gay cartoon where characters flash their buttholes and parasitically destroy the legacy of episodes that came before?

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >How can you expect something like The Inner Light to coexist in the same world
                Inner Light coexists in the same world and same series as Code of Honor and that episode where Wesley is put on trial for crushing flowers.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >Code of Honor and that episode where Wesley is put on trial for crushing flowers
                We find those episodes silly, but there's a bit difference between something being silly on purpose and unintentionally. The Inner Light could have been silly as frick if just one aspect of production was lacking.
                The point is that you can never make something like The Inner Light if you're always sarcastic because making something like that requires taking risks. And you're not taking any risks if you don't take yourself seriously. You just can't make art if you refuse to be sincere. Things have soul because people took risks to make them.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                tapestry is the best episode of tng, if anyone disagrees with me that's fine because I'm not autistic.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                What’s even the moral of that episode? If you don’t have social status then people will treat you like shit?

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >What’s even the moral of that episode?
                You can't reach greatness without taking risks and staring death right in the eye. You can't go through life by just existing.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                you have to take risks and push yourself if you want to achieve your goals, not be passive and play it safe. picard sees his younger self as someone that needed sense talked into him, but it's what got him where he is today.
                >If you don’t have social status then people will treat you like shit?
                I have no idea how that could be your take from it.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                No risk no reward.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >We find those episodes silly
                They're utter trash and go against the tone of the entire franchise, you can even argue the same about dozens of episodes from TOS. By your own logic, you cannot have an episode like In the Pale Moonlight because it's in the same world as the Magnificent Ferengi. It's a nonsensical argument especially when you can just say you think ld is shit and be done with it instead of trying to make a convoluted justification for your opinion.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >You just can't make art if you refuse to be sincere!

                Oh, another one of those rules you arbitrarily create and demand everyone follow.

                Look, we get you. You want to sit on the floor in your jammies with a big bowl of cancer flakes and watch repeats of hour long morality lectures in a sci-fi fantasy for the rest of your life. Okay, have fun.

                Others don't feel that way. How about you just accept that?

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >Okay, have fun.
                Thanks, I will 🙂

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >others feel that art doesn't require sincerity

                and they make trash.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >Lower Drecks completely changed the direction of the franchise!!!

                Are you going to start again with calling a cartoon and anyone who makes or likes it "evil"? Because that is really very creepy.

                So please don't.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                you are that mike guy aren't you? same weirdo energy

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                I've long suspected that downie mike mcmahan posts here and is in good favor with the ~~*mods*~~ due to his """celebrity""" status.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                my spidey sense is telling me that's him

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                > PIC and STD were so bad they halted production on all the other series that were in the works! You're delusional if you think that PIC and STD didn't kill nu-trek!

                Oh no. Anyway....

                Star Trek: Strange New Worlds S03 - Filming
                Star Trek: Prodigy S02 - Finished. Premiers Spring 2024
                Star Trek: Lower Decks S05 - Post Production
                Star Trek: Section 31 - Filming
                Star Trek: Starfleet Academy - Starts filming Summer 2024
                Star Trek: Discovery S05 - Finished. Premiers April 4 2024

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                i look forward to not watching any of that

                t. everyone

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                bump

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Section 31 has been "filming" for 7 years now.

                i look forward to not watching any of that

                t. everyone

                same

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >Section 31 has been "filming" for 7 years now!!!!

                So.......

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >just two more years and it'll be finished!

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                > Section 31 filming is taking place in Toronto, Canada, from January to March 2024.

                HTH

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >filming a movie in 3 months
                95% chance this is absolute garbage that should be deleted for the tax advantages. 5% chance its great because they didnt have the time nor budget to frick it up

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                You said it wasn't filming at all. Now you're complaining it isn't filming enough. Some might think you're just looking for something to b***h about.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >Lower Drecks is the worst thing that ever happened to this franchise! It just is!

                Oh dear. That is unfortunate.

                >Lower Drecks is franchise poison! The moment a serious sci-fi franchise just decides to take the piss and do self-parody, it's over! You just can't walk that back! It completely killed its image, no one will ever treat it seriously again! Even live-action shows are now following in its footstep and doing franchise pastiche! Star Trek is now a comedy franchise -- forever!!!

                Would you like to speak to speak to someone about this? To let them know just how mad a cartoon makes you.

                Do you ever wonder why you're the only person you've ever met on the Internet who even pretends to enjoy nutrek
                That "look at me eat shit" is the entirety of your attention whoring pseudotripgay routine

                That you have nothing lined up to reply to this except another Trek & Morty screencap and a canned "why u so mad tho" reply
                Like, are you even human

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >you're the only person on the Internet who even pretends to enjoy nutrek!!! *screams*

                We are LOW.
                We are Legion.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >*screams*
                Jesus fricking christ dude

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                The thing is he'll never stop. He has made it his life mission to shill for nutrek. Ignoring him doesn't make him go away. This is his one man crusade.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                What will he do if NuTrek ends?

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Probably kill himself

              • 3 weeks ago
                Cutting Board Anon

                What's funny is that there are at least four of us who post LOW stuff a lot, but you dicklicks think it's all Trek Luthor.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                so frick off back to your discord circlejerk then

              • 3 weeks ago
                Cutting Board Anon

                The Discord circlejerk is for TNGeezers. I am not a member.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >I am not in a discord server!
                >I just happen to know that four people of which I am one of get together to shit up every Star Trek thread!

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >actually there are four people who make it their primary mission to push nutrek slop
                This isn't the "gotcha" you think it is.

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              >Lower Drecks is franchise poison! The moment a serious sci-fi franchise just decides to take the piss and do self-parody, it's over! You just can't walk that back! It completely killed its image, no one will ever treat it seriously again! Even live-action shows are now following in its footstep and doing franchise pastiche! Star Trek is now a comedy franchise -- forever!!!

              Would you like to speak to speak to someone about this? To let them know just how mad a cartoon makes you.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                No need! Star Trek is dead! Paramount lost Billions! But good luck with that!

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >Star Trek is dead! Paramount lost Billions!!!!

                Okay. Thanks for letting us know.

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              >The moment a serious sci-fi franchise just decides to take the piss and do self-parody, it's over.
              How is it possible to be this wrong?

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              >But Lower Drecks is franchise poison. The moment a serious sci-fi franchise just decides to take the piss and do self-parody, it's over. You just can't walk that back. It completely killed its image, no one will ever treat it seriously again. Even live-action shows are now following in its footstep and doing franchise pastiche. Star Trek is now a comedy franchise -- forever.
              Don't tell him about the literal Saturday morning cartoon version of Star Trek animated. He'll have a stroke.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >Saturday morning cartoon version of Star Trek animated
                So...? TAS is just TOS but in cartoon form. It even used unfilmed scripts from TOS. All the actors even returned to voice their characters.
                Upper Decker is just your generic woke adult animated comedy but with a Star Trek coat of paint.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                My government fears this, so star trek the animated series been kept secret. But we must recover it before my people discover it gone and go mad, launch a jihad, a holy war on the galaxy.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                How can you mix this and LowD?
                This is an insult and you have no place here.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Imagine if TAS was The Flintstones but Star Trek. And it would probably still be better than Lower Drecks.

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              >Even live-action shows are now following in its footstep and doing franchise pastiche. Star Trek is now a comedy franchise -- forever.
              We already have live action Star Trek parody, it's called Galaxy Quest and the Orville. And you know what? Both of these are more thoughtful and entertaining than STD or Picard.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Because The Orville and Galaxy Quest were made by people who genuinely love and understand the source material. They weren't made by self-proclaimed millennial nerds who love Star Trek ironically as this silly low-budget thing from their childhoods.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Gay.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >Lower Drecks is the worst thing that ever happened to this franchise! It just is!

          Oh dear. That is unfortunate.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Go back to Cinemaphile tumblr troony

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >Lower Decks is the only one that actually feels like a Star Trek show.
        Repeating this lie over and over does not make it true; it's Generic Adult Animation #47

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          It feels the most like Star Trek out of all nuTrek, that's less a compliment for lower decks and more an insult for all the others

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >It feels the most like Star Trek
            You just ate the memberberries. The writing is completely antithetical to what Star Trek should be. It has completely opposite moral values and moral lessons to original Trek. And that's because it's written by smug dipshit millennials.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >Dyke propaganda
            >Rick and Morty inspired
            >feels like a star trek show

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Nothing in it "feels" like Star Trek at all, stop repeating this NPC line.
            >b-but it has the same beep boop noises TNG did and they hit "random article" on Memory Alpha whenever they want to put in obscure references! They care about the fans!

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              But that's the point, it has shots of ships, usually some similar sounds and music and references the lore, that's more than any of the other shows do which should be the bare minimum

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                [...]

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >surface level shit
                >IT'S JUST LIKE THE OLD SHOWS
                >never mind it has the same writing as any cartoon you'll find on hulu

                Are you too moronic to comprehend what I'm not defending lower decks, I'm saying that this is basic shit the other shows can't even get right

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Lower Decks isn't even barely dependable leas defendable! Its a failure, through and through!

                >Star Trek is dead! Paramount lost Billions!!!!

                Okay. Thanks for letting us know.

                Its dead Jim

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >surface level shit
                >IT'S JUST LIKE THE OLD SHOWS
                >never mind it has the same writing as any cartoon you'll find on hulu

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            I haven't watched it but the webms I've seen include way more sexual references than anything the original show did, and weird childish humor. It doesn't seem like a very mature show with an optimistic outlook. It's just Rick and Morty clone #49 but in a star trek ship

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            unironically this, well that and SNW
            sadly most trekkies are severely autistic that if something isn't exactly like the thing they grew up with as a child they despise it

            but if you remove the surface level shit (pickle rick humor, memberberries) the show structure is very trek like
            the characters poke fun at starfleet, but they actually do believe in the ideas and philosophy, it has a positive look on exploration and the future, unlike PIC and STD which tend to be quite pessimistic

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            When you’re right you’re right

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          But it is true. Repeating your assertion over and over doesn't change that.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            parroting is a hallmark of autism.

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              he's not a parrot, he's a softbill

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >dyke deck
        >star trek show

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        it really doesn't, it some sort of Rick & Morty in the Star Trek universe but worse, all those quippy Marvel lines and not a single likeable character.
        The cross over episode in Strange New Worlds was somehow even more awful than the musical one.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          ransom is okay for the most part. it is a noncanon parody cartoon afteral

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        It feels the most like Star Trek out of all nuTrek, that's less a compliment for lower decks and more an insult for all the others

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        It feels the most like Star Trek out of all nuTrek, that's less a compliment for lower decks and more an insult for all the others

        This is why no one likes gays who watch cartoons as adults.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          It takes a very special kind of homosexual to enjoy woke animated comedy. Don't conflate all animation aficionados with that.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        thats only partly right. its more lore accurate, but in spirit and execution is closer to rick and morty, the crappy animation style reflects that. we had star trek animated, and it was amazing and actually trek.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      It's crazy how the people making this cartoon don't understand that anyone over the age of thirty views them as degenerate pedophiles.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        There's probably a significant portion of people under thirty that feels the same way.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Well people under thirty don't watch it

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >For reasons unknown, he turned down the offer.

  5. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    SNW:
    >child sacrifice planet, Pike does nothing
    >troon episode retconning Sybok as gay
    >lol im a sentient nebula abducting your 11 year old daughter or ill kill everyone
    I wonder why

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      episode retconning Sybok as gay
      WTF

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        It's even worse than it sounds

  6. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >With a property as sprawling as Star Trek, of course everyone has their own opinions on which entry is the best and which entry is their favorite. (Those might be two distinct answers!) It shouldn’t be a surprise that OG Star Trek star William Shatner thinks OG Star Trek is the truest version, not just because of his involvement but because of creator Gene Roddenberry’s particular vision. “He was in the military, and he was a policeman,” Shatner says in a new interview with The Hollywood Reporter. “There are strict rules and you abide by the rules. Around that, [the writers] had to write the drama.”

    >Roddenberry steered the series with “the discipline of ‘This is the way a ship works,’” Shatner explains, and that includes crew members not making out with each other. “Well, as Star Trek progressed, that ethos has been forgotten [in more recent shows],” the actor observes. “I sometimes laugh and talk about the fact that I think Gene is twirling in his grave. ‘No, no, you can’t make out with the lady soldier!’”
    https://www.avclub.com/william-shatner-star-trek-gene-roddenberry-rules-1851345972

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >Roddenberry steered the series with “the discipline of ‘This is the way a ship works,’” Shatner explains, and that includes crew members not making out with each other.
      I guess Shatner forgot about Dagger of the Mind, where a central plot point was that he had made out with, and possibly fricked, Dr. Helen Noel after the Science Lab Christmas Party.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >and that includes crew members not making out with each other.
      Yet Rodenberry cast his wife in the show.

  7. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous
    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Wow your dad is a disgusting homophobe, I hope you never speak to that bigot again

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        I’m going to send it in an email to his boss and cc head of HR fr fr

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous
    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Great dad. Congrats, anon

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      alright dad when should they make out

  8. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    still my captain

  9. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >shatner calls George Takei a motherfricker
    at this point i knew shatner is always right so he is right again

  10. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    >>I hate to tell you this but I’m not making this show for you, I’m making this show for me.
    Why is Gen X like this?

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      [...]
      >I’m making this show for me.
      Then pay it for it out of your own pocket, you fat delusional frick. You're in this business to entertain people.

      Star Trek is dead! Paramount is desperate to sell it but no one wants it! Bad reboot, like Disney, has killed the Golden Goose!

  11. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    >I’m making this show for me.
    Then pay it for it out of your own pocket, you fat delusional frick. You're in this business to entertain people.

  12. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    Is that him? Is it just me or does this guy have downs?

  13. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Ty Cobb thought Cap Anson was turning in his grave over Babe Ruth.

    It's called "Old Fart Syndrome" and nobody cares.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      knowing old timey baseball players is very gay

  14. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Shatner just cranky. Guys in their 90s get like that. Besides, he'll see the Koala soon anyway.

  15. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Roddenberry has been twirling in his grave ever since DS9 revealed that humans of the 24th century are just as prone to conspiracies, genocide, and authoritarianism as humans of the 20th century. Humanity hasn't evolved or become enlightened. We're just the same bunch of monkeys fighting over bananas except with quantum torpedoes and phaser cannons.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      because that is the easiest shit to write. literal soap or game of thrones tier. to work within limitations is too hard.

  16. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >implying there's a single piece of him left in that coffin that his wife hadn't already sold off

  17. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    they talked about roddenberry and his 'rules' being a pain in the ass all the way back at the start of TNG's production, and him not being involved let them actually make the show into something good.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      nah, it started good, and became more successful as it went on simply because it stayed good, and didn't stray too far from gene's rules/vision, then collapsed the further away it moved from them.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        the first season of TNG is an absolute chore and that's the one gene was most heavily involved in, he stepped back after that into a loose consultant role after that because his health was getting poor.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          nah. no clue where you go that maymay, don't care either.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >thing that literally happened is a 'maymay'
            holy autism

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              Your regurgitated opinions aren't things that "literally happened." What literally happened is a new series started strong, and stayed strong, and attracted viewers as it went.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                well ok if you want to believe that I can't stop you, most people don't agree with you and think it takes well into S2 before it really starts getting strong.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Yes, I will "believe" documented fact, backed up by nielsen ratings, rather than whatever eceleb you downloaded your opinions from.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                I take my opinion from having seen the show, more than once, I don't need neilsen ratings to pretend large chinks of the first two seasons aren't extremely weak.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                there you go again, confusing your eceleb sourced opinions for fact.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                are the ecelebs in the room with you now?

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                no, but i'm pretty sure you've got one playing in the background right now.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                you're a weird guy.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                the only thing playing in the background is my tinnitus and it, much like you, is just going REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE but is easily ignored

                >protests too much

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                the only thing playing in the background is my tinnitus and it, much like you, is just going REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE but is easily ignored

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                hey, you're not me.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            gene didn't even want patrick stewart as picard, he was at odds with the production from the start.

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              because patrick strewart wanted to be kirk2.0, but begrudgingly fell into line. and then the movies happened, and star trek collapsed as a franchise.

  18. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >a Star Trek show that exists purely for Rick and Morty style reaction images
    This is so fricking depressing.

  19. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    This poorly photoshopped baby is Thaddeus Riker
    He died as a child of an otherwise easily curable neurological condition because the Federation's economy collapsed after the android slave labor underpinning it had a Terminator-esque revolution

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      while investigating said android rebellion, Picard traveled to a trailer park, where a black woman who used to work for him stews in poverty on earth and eviscerates him for his tremendous wealth, because the Federation has sort of forgotten that it's post-scarcity space communism

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Elsewhere, a young woman's boyfriend is murdered in front of her in their cramped apartment in the dystopic cyberpunk shithole that is Federation Boston

        This woman will later discover that she herself is an android

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          together, Picard and the android woman journey to Starfleet Headquarters in San Francisco, which is now covered in solar panels because the Federation apparently forgot it has antimatter fusion

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Patrick Stewart being gay feels like a psyop bros

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Turns out his bit on Extras was entirely him unironically

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Someone post the pictures of him dressed in drag.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >Someone post the pictures of him dressed in drag.
            I don't understand. Wasn't Patrick Stewart gay as frick since at least the early 90's?
            Then, Lord of the Rings....he wasn't even in that, but it made clear that he is quite homosexual.

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              I mean, probably? He's definitely besties with Ian Mackellan and he never bothered hiding it. Doesn't negate his or Ian's skills at acting.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Yeah, I mean he has like 50 years of definitely not banging any women and then there's that...

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Why is the baby wearing a Star Trek uniform? Is it so the audience would know it's a Star Trek baby? Is this a backhanded attempt at merchandising?

  20. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >modern trek is too serious

  21. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Considering I've never seen my dad watching nu-Star Trek, it must be absolutely terrible. He loves Star Trek and has very low standards for the crap he watches.

  22. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    TNG only got good when Roddenberry was out of the picture and not there to frick things up.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      how would he have fricked up inner light

  23. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous
  24. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Let's play find the Shatner shitpost in this thread. We know you're here Billy.

  25. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Everyone's just shitposting "musical episode" but seriously click this and tell me how many seconds you make it

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Comments turned off

  26. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    fun fact: paramount shills inversely to how watched something is. see: yellowstone and all the spinoffs. zero shilling.

  27. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >William Shatner
    >(age 92)

    he looks great for 92. He looks like a 60 yo russian.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      holy shit. he's gonna live to be 120

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        He's still pretty sharp and lively. Good for him.

  28. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    are trekkies the most autistic "fanbase" around?

  29. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Based Cinemaphile standing up for LD, which even Mike Stoklasa admits he enjoys

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Stoklasa stans McMahan. Mike attracts Mike.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >Please come back on my podcast, Jack! I love that one horrible cartoon you're in even though I previously called it terrible. Please come back... I want to be relevant...

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >coping with headcanon now
        Oh how the mighty LD hater (singular) has fallen

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Doesn't Mike also enjoy Big Mouth?

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        I think Mike might be a pedo...

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Nah, he just has shit taste I think.
          Even Shatner could tell he was a troglodyte at first glance, which is why he refused to be on his gay podcast.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          He literally groomed an 11 year old boy into being his co-host on Half In The Bag

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Mike Stoklasa did call an underage girl a smoking hot Latina in an old video.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Yes. Mike Stoklasa in general has awful taste.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      That broke the Geezers like finding out Medicare Plus doesn't cover HRT.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        It really do be like that. Watch xer start spamming the thread to make it look like xe has support.

  30. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Wow it's almost like when you rehash something good for six decades it becomes bad

  31. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >autistic eceleb homosexual suddenly starts shitting up thread

    no one normal cares about ecelebs

  32. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Oh nice we triggered another cartoon gay meltdown, he'll be digging in his pickle trek reaction folder until the thread hits bump limit.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      He'll have to resort to posting velma again

  33. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >twirling in his grave
    Didn't they launch his ashes into space?

  34. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    lower decks is the reddit of star trek

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      STD is the Cinemaphile of star trek

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Cinemaphile is lexx, very occasionally based or hilarious, but mostly just moronic with some coomer bait.

  35. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I watched about 3 episodes of STD and haven't watched anything else of nu-Trek since.
    We'll never have earnest, comfy, mostly thoughtful, episodic Trek content again.

  36. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >Arthur Malencon was a Human hydraulics specialist of the United Federation of Planets' Terraform Command in the 24th century. (TNG: "Home Soil")
    >In 2381, Ensign Beckett Mariner brought up Malencon while engaging in tribadism in a Jefferies tube aboard the USS Anaheim. (LD: "Fart Planet")

  37. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Jewisraelite Abrahams movies turned Star Trek into generic action movies.
    STD turned Star Trek into a women's power fantasy.
    Picard (show) turned Star Trek into an unpleasant edgefest.
    Lower Decks turned Star Trek into reddit.
    Prodigy turned Star Trek into Magic School Bus.
    Strange New Worlds turned Star Trek back into the JJ movies.
    Nutrek was shit from the start, and part of it is the fact they keep trying to appeal to all of these neat little categories and demographics. Such is the modern day streaming direction.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >Prodigy turned Star Trek into Magic School Bus.
      And despite this, it's still the closest thing to a proper continuation of 90s Trek.

  38. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I love Bill Shatner so much

  39. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Yet Bill still took all the money from the Meyers-verse TOS films that Roddenberry hated.

  40. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    what were these rules?

  41. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Yes, Willie Shat always "got it" he understood the series and what it was about. I am pretty sure he even wrote some of the books himself. The woke Black person homosexual commie israelites and their little golems will never cuck the Shatman

  42. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Of course he's right.

  43. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I enjoyed Trek for what it was growing up, but the older I get the more I realize the parodies of Trek fans are super accurate. Franchise was for loser boomers, and the Nu-Trek fans are literal sex pests that haven't been caught yet. Not surprising they enjoy disgusting, warped shit like Lower Decks.

  44. 3 weeks ago
    Cutting Board Anon

    Star Trek succeeded despite Gene Roddenberry, not because of him. He was a Satanist and pervert and probably a child molester, as he openly admitted in a documentary interview shortly before he died.

    Paramount+ Trek isn't perfect but the imperfections are all things Roddenberry would have wanted. Leftist bullshit, weird sexual crap, etc.

    Star Trek succeeded because of a long string of executives who weren't Roddenberry moderating his insane influences, starting with Lucille Ball.

  45. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Considering Trek was always a utopian vision of people with diverse origins working together, and nu-Trek is racebaiting misandrist shit featuring a horrible actress playing an incredibly unlikeable character, yes.

  46. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    > >I don’t think anyone wants to watch made to order TV.
    Desperately sweating Pepe

    I can’t wait to mix and match, random-gen Hong Kong horror films from the 80s starring the cast of Seinfeld, and vise versa.
    I spent a full 2 weeks worldbuilding a manga where Black folk play street chess in Central Park in the style of Takehiko Inoue with the Bing slop.

    I mean sure society will be in free fall but it’ll be a fun few years.

  47. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Nu-Trek is, BY DEFINITION, fanfic. Not a single one of the original people are involved in any of this. What are you manchildren expecting?

    Holy shit, we're stuck in an infinite feedback loop marketing scheme where babymen 40 year olds are demanding their childhood back from massive, multinational, megalithic corporations whose explicit intent is to make endless, ever-expanding profits.

    Let it go. Give it up. Watch the old shit if you're feeling nostalgic. Go exercise. Go for a jog. Pick up a book. Go hiking. Holy shit, just find something else to do.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >Nu-Trek is, BY DEFINITION, fanfic. Not a single one of the original people are involved in any of this!!!!

      "Yes -- I will simply ignore the actors that have done both, because that makes me look like an idiot!"

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        I want to frick Mariner

  48. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    >CBS does not want to frick with Star Trek. They know what Star Trek fans like, you know. It has to have a really good reason why it’s that way.

  49. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    What is it about this animated series, Lower Decks, that attracts the most insufferable people?

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Shitty show made by shitty people for shitty people. A bunch of unlikable kissless losers thinking they're cool and snarky.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >Shitty show made by shitty people for shitty people!!!

        Oh, that is unfortunate.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          You will die alone and unfricked.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Everyone dies alone and really nothing you did matters
            Lol

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          NTA, I've been exposed to Star Trek since the 80's,
          I don't mind Lover Decks at all.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >an infantile middle-aged homosexual watching a young adult cartoon that Gen Z rejected
            Congrats, you're Lower Decks' main demographic. I don't want to hear people make fun of zoomers ever again.

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              >I don't want to hear people make fun of zoomers ever again.
              No one's making fun of you, zoomer. Choke on some microplastics.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >No one's making fun of you, zoomer
                Correct. I'm making fun of you, millennial.
                Now go jerk off to your poorly-drawn cartoon dyke folder in your Funko Pop basement and stop shitting up this board. When you're not jerking off, you're literally always here. You're furiously refreshing Cinemaphile looking for a thread containing the word 'trek' (which thanks to you, is increasingly rare these days). This is your life.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >millennial.
                swing and a miss

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Gen X, same shit. You're the same generation of pathetic homosexuals who grew up on some of the best entertainment ever made and somehow still turned out to be enormous cynical homosexuals.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                yeah, well, thats like your opinion, man

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Jesus, didn't realize dudes in their 50s still watched shitty cartoons for 19 year olds.

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              It's actually been proven that this alleged group of four people who love Lezzie Dykes are in their 40s and 50s. Which is just sad.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                At least one is in his sixties.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >who love Lezzie Dykes
                Ugh, Latest of Gen X, earliest millennial.
                Lower Decks is the fun we needed after about 55 fricking years.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                NO NO FUN ALLOWED. NO WHIMSY. NONE OF THAT NORMIE SEX HAVER SHIT.
                YOU ARE ONLY ALLOWED TO CONTEMPLATE YOUR EAGLEMOSS MINIS AS THEY REST IMMACULATELY ON YOUR DISPLAY SHELF. ONLY EAGLEMOSS. GTFO WITH THAT PLAYMATES SHIT.
                WHEN YOU ARE DONE CONTEMPLATING YOU MUST WATCH GUL DUKAT DOING NOTHING WRONG.
                THIS IS THE ONLY WAY YOU ARE ACCEPTED HERE. GO BACK.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                No person who jerk offs to cartoon dykes has ever had sex.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                less sassin' more contemplatin' your 'mosses

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                NO NO FUN ALLOWED. NO WHIMSY. NONE OF THAT NORMIE SEX HAVER SHIT.
                YOU ARE ONLY ALLOWED TO CONTEMPLATE YOUR EAGLEMOSS MINIS AS THEY REST IMMACULATELY ON YOUR DISPLAY SHELF. ONLY EAGLEMOSS. GTFO WITH THAT PLAYMATES SHIT.
                WHEN YOU ARE DONE CONTEMPLATING YOU MUST WATCH GUL DUKAT DOING NOTHING WRONG.
                THIS IS THE ONLY WAY YOU ARE ACCEPTED HERE. GO BACK.

                >our brains are so rotted by endless goyslop that we welcome pickle trek, it's zazzy!
                continuing to prove my point lol

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous
              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                I am indeed the last guy to be with "it".
                But it's a light hearted show exploring the things that regular Star Trek does/can not.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >But it's a light hearted show exploring the things that regular Star Trek does/can not.
                I also actually liked the cross-over with Strange New Worlds.
                I even liked the Musical Episode.

                And there is little that you can do about that...

                Anyways, Nana Visitor is still hot.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                It's one thing to like shitty things, but why make it your identity and act as if you're being persecuted for it?

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                It works for MAGA. Might as well try it for Trek autism.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >but why make it your identity and act as if you're being persecuted for it?
                What? My identity is being two lesbian blacks, but so far I have not been persecuted for it?

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >Nana Visitor is still hot
                The only worthwhile opinion ITT

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                All Bajoran can burn. Every Kira ep is an instant skip for me.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                old pic. she bogged now

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Isn't that every modern cartoon?

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        watch PRIMAL for a quality modern toon

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Especially the ones that look like they were flash animated. See those lesbian ones that keeps getting spammed here and on Cinemaphile. Hazbin hotel and that other one I forget the name of. They all look alike.

  50. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    He's right. Trek was originally about the optimistic and hopeful future that we could have if humans put aside their differences. Nu-Trek is all about what if we took all of the shittiness of modern humans and gave them spaceships and lots of LEDs.

  51. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    He's definitely right.

    Only Strange New Worlds and Lower Decks are good.

  52. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Gene probably was always twirling in his grave because he was a prancing little lala boy.

  53. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    yeah

  54. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Hey everyone, I am new to Star Trek and I think it is the G.O.A.T.! Fr fr no cap, it is bussin' and definitely not some sort of cheugy gyatt fanum tax skibidi toilet. I am watching TNG for the very first time and I feel the sudden urge to purchase Eaglemoss brand miniature ship models and display them in a case. Any Treks for this contemplative feel?

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I can tell I've angered you, considering you're dragging out your tired discord memes.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        the very existence of zoomers angers me, yes

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          I don't know man, tiktok brainrot zoomers and "this sassy cartoon is literally me!" brainrot gen xers both cause me intense pain

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >the very existence of zoomers angers me, yes
          Only because it proves millennials were somehow able to figure out reproduction, despite all evidence to the contrary.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            those are alphas. Zoomers are GenX's kids.

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              Ah, frick, I can never tell them apart due to the wide gradient of moronation.

  55. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous
  56. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Unfortunately it doesn’t matter what they think. The new fans love it.

  57. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I used to frequent a hardcore marxist subreddit (yeah I know) and they even agreed the new star trek sucked and went against the old themes that were all about understanding and working with everyone, avoiding war and not just destroying whatever seemed hostile on sight.

  58. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    >a new style of animation that they’ve never seen before.
    >it’s standard issue CalArts shit
    Fullmoron.jpg

  59. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    >damn the fans! they don't know shit!
    >fans don't watch it and it flips
    Getting tired of this rerun

  60. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    shatner? I barely knew her.

  61. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    are you trying to dig yourself out of your hole to claim Nana Visitor is not hot?

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      ...seriously though, for an aged woman like that...

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