Have you actually read this book though? It's nothing like the movie, it's short, and there isn't much depth. When people think about starship troopers they are thinking about the film. Heinlein isn't a good writer, his prose is not good. His ideas of how a science fiction military would function in a space war is interesting. That's it.
>Heinlein isn't a good writer
Lord Of The Flies in space is great and of course moon is a harsh mistress, oh and who could forget Stranger in A Strange Land.
Just because YOU find it weird that each of these stories has a barely 19 year old redhead ending up with a 40+ year old author/father figure doesn't detract from the stories being great.
Anti-Christ Jesus but who is actually pushing love is an interesting idea anon. We should embrace his message but don't trust the package, it's also about frick you Scientology my made up sci-fi religion should've dominated Hollywood for the next thirty years.
Red Rising is 100% getting HBO'd or Netflix'd sooner or later. Also the characters are segregated by fictional skin color classes (pinks are prostitutes, reds are miners, golds are le master race) so it's pretty DEIproof
>so it's pretty DEIproof
Plenty of the Golds are brown and asian and the Reds are guaranteed to become largely brown because they're redheads.
The later books are pretty damn DEI, one character in particular is described like an inclusive tumblr drawing. Fat, short, black, dreadlocks, tattoos, top surgery.
Frick you for torturing me with dreams of what will never be. Like that anon that posited a timeline in which Altman made an adaptation of A Confederacy of Dunces starring John Goodman and Shelley Winters instead of Popeye.
> Neuromancer by William Gibson > The Left Hand of Darkness by Ursula K. Le Guin > Solaris by Stanisław Lem > The Dispossessed: An Ambiguous Utopia by Ursula K. Le Guin > Hyperion by Dan Simmons
This would be incredible in a series similar to GOT. So good. At least, if it never gets made, we won't have to watch it get butchered and roland and eddie blackwashed
I didn't get this novel, or why it's been so hyped lately...
The writing is mediocre, and the plot and characters are pretty uninteresting, random, and bizarre. Seemed very juvenile, to me.
One of my all time faves. And it comes with built in giant black cast so no need to do the thing
...but they'd raceswap everyone anyway because said built in giant black cast are the guys who ruin everything and get 99% of the cast killed. Gotta have whitey do that
Dune was never a good story. When are you fricks going to stop smoking copium and wake up. If you had to try and sell this book to audience they would instantly fall asleep. The only reason people like it was for the world building which only goes to show how mediocre it is cause anyone can do that. Dune truly is a dune it’s empty as the Sahara and as dry as your moms carpet.
>success
Lol no its a flop by all standards
It didn't come close to turning a profit
It's hilarious when you consider how many dunctards were furiously buying out entire rows in theaters in a desperate attempt to bribe Warner into greenlighting an entire goyslop trilogy, that their effort has been for nothing
Part 1 didn't break even and neither did this one
Part 3 will be stuck in development hell, investors will be asking serious questions if Warner continues to piss away money on this fruitless endeavor
That's only domestic, moron. It made 685 mil worldwide on a 190 mil budget. And more importantly, it made more money than the last movie, so studios see the franchise is on an upswing.
The book version of Chani is total bawd who wanted to metaphorically kill her own daughter so she could live in her body just so that she could frick Paul in her son's body, metaphorically killing him as well.
>culture where body moisture conservation is so deeply ingrained such that shedding a single tear for a deceased loved one is frowned upon >has a habit of mouth breathing whenever upset
>deemed successful enough
You do understand that part 2 got greenlit before the first domestic box office numbers were in. Or rather, it got announced then. Greenlighting must have happened before it even came out in American cinemas. In other words: WB don't care for success, they've been all in from the start.
They're all businesses so plans would be cancelled if there was no money made. And it's Legendary who made the decisions about Dune, WB is just a distributor.
Legendary already announced that Messiah is in work, they're clearly happy with Part 2's success.
>plans would be cancelled
Plans MIGHT get cancelled if it was an abysmal failure that not only made no money at all, but lost them all of their investment.
But they apparently have contracts for the whole franchise already, and the DUNC films just serve as a pretense to turn Brian Herbert's books into films and series.
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>But they apparently have contracts for the whole franchise already
Who they? WB is just a distributor, they don't have the rights. Legendary could always go to another distributor for the next Dune movie if they want to.
It's actually a good thing that Dune movies are just successful enough for the trilogy to get made but not mega billion franchise that everything related will be milked to death.
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Anonymous
>just successful enough for the trilogy to get made
Again: Success (or what you perceive as success) has nothing to do with it.
And they're already making a Brian Herbert shit based series for the WB streaming service right now.
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Anonymous
The max series has nothing to do with Dune movies. Theater releases come with insane promotion fees that's why usually movies have to make 2.5x its budget to turn profit. The likelihood of something getting a sequel boils down to two things: profit and acclaim.
Mainstream version of Dune is Star Wars. Denis's Dune movies feel very niche, don't see how anyone could say the Dune movies are like blockbusters unless they never actually watched them.
Appearance-wise he's spot-on casting.
Acting-wise he could be inconsistent, though ultimately he managed to nail the key scenes anyway.
I honestly don't think there's any other known actor that could pull off the role better than him given Denis's vision.
For me, it's this one.
It would be difficult to adapt for sure, but I have ideas on how you could pull it off, and I'm sure that as long as someone cared a lot it would be fantastic.
I think Mistborn would make a decent live action adaption, whether movie or show. Brandon seems unwilling to give up any sort of creative control, so I don't think he'll cuck like riordan did with DEI. Would like to see Dafne Keen as Vin though.
Stormlight archive has to be animated. The races are way too weird with all the epicanthal folds. The magic system is also way harder to portray in live action without a crazy budget.
Both series would need crazy composers for their musical scores though.
Just start out with the weakest, warbreaker. The way the big bad goes out was basically the equivalent of that whole drop your weapon into your other hand thing that studios love so much
I just watched dune and thought it was alright, I like the aesthetics. The story is kinda too simple so far. It's worth watching even if it has the usual crap a modern movie made in the west must have (you know what I mean). Are the movies hated here on Cinemaphile?
This.
The desert shots were bland in a way Ididn't even think was possibe, most acting was atrocious and all the costume designs were bleak and soulless. But the worst thing by far was that the attention and direction was completely displaced. Especially in part two. Villeneuve was clearly creaming himself over his fantasies of the Sardaukar and muh military that this shit was the only thing that stood out. He did not care one inch about the meditative character of the descriptions, about the introspective of the style and about the internal happenings of Paul.
Dunc I at least had a kind of meditative pull in moments, like the leaving of Caladan, but part two was completely devoid of any interest of it. Villeneuve is a director far out of his depth.
Starship Troopers
Oh boy, can't wait for the endless culture war debating amongst subhumans to start up again..
Have you actually read this book though? It's nothing like the movie, it's short, and there isn't much depth. When people think about starship troopers they are thinking about the film. Heinlein isn't a good writer, his prose is not good. His ideas of how a science fiction military would function in a space war is interesting. That's it.
>Heinlein isn't a good writer
Lord Of The Flies in space is great and of course moon is a harsh mistress, oh and who could forget Stranger in A Strange Land.
Just because YOU find it weird that each of these stories has a barely 19 year old redhead ending up with a 40+ year old author/father figure doesn't detract from the stories being great.
I concede that Starship Troopers is the only one of his I have read. Maybe his others are better.
The ones I mentioned are all worth reading and completely mockable due to the 70's perversions seeping through the grander story.
>Stranger in A Strange Land.
This book is the dumbest slop ever. The characters just drone on and on and on about stupid stuff.
Anti-Christ Jesus but who is actually pushing love is an interesting idea anon. We should embrace his message but don't trust the package, it's also about frick you Scientology my made up sci-fi religion should've dominated Hollywood for the next thirty years.
The third Starship Troopers is more like the book in some ways.
Wasn't this a conservative leaning sci fi,could use more of that
Gormenghast
I think that's actually in development at Showtime.
there was a brit tv show
Redpill me on this.
LRN2GOOGLE U FRICKING VILLAGER
Better than Dune
YA novels from what I've gotten out of reading the first two books.
No idea where the frick the fanbase came from.
>Pierce Brown
obvious sodomy reference is obvious
Red Rising is 100% getting HBO'd or Netflix'd sooner or later. Also the characters are segregated by fictional skin color classes (pinks are prostitutes, reds are miners, golds are le master race) so it's pretty DEIproof
Just like the pure blooded valyerians with black skin and dreadlocks
>so it's pretty DEIproof
Plenty of the Golds are brown and asian and the Reds are guaranteed to become largely brown because they're redheads.
The later books are pretty damn DEI, one character in particular is described like an inclusive tumblr drawing. Fat, short, black, dreadlocks, tattoos, top surgery.
How do you make that DUNC font?
ᑐᑌᑎᑕ
>a success by most standards
Breaking even is not much of a success, anon.
>that DUNC font?
>ᑐᑌᑎᑕ
Superset Union Intersection Subset
Something cool
>canticle for leibowitz
quite funny. should be directed by someone like terry Gilliam. It would fit better into a mini-series.
Villeneuve is supposed to be adapting Rendezvous with rama. this is good
>Rendezvous with rama
read this a couple years ago and thought it was middling at best
Wasn't a fan of how I spent two chapters of each new time period figuring out if I gave a shit, I ended up doing so but still felt odd.
>Canticle for Leibowitz directed by Terry Gilliam
Frick you for torturing me with dreams of what will never be. Like that anon that posited a timeline in which Altman made an adaptation of A Confederacy of Dunces starring John Goodman and Shelley Winters instead of Popeye.
>Villeneuve is supposed to be adapting Rendezvous with rama
Frick off. He's the last hac I would want on Clarke's stuff (or anything else)
kek seethe more ya fricking geek
>muh fricking geek
>still wants fricking geek stuff adapted
cringe dunctard
> Neuromancer by William Gibson
> The Left Hand of Darkness by Ursula K. Le Guin
> Solaris by Stanisław Lem
> The Dispossessed: An Ambiguous Utopia by Ursula K. Le Guin
> Hyperion by Dan Simmons
Apple is apparently making a Neuromancer series.
there is a Solaris movie
> Apple is apparently making a Neuromancer series.
Hope it’s just a miniseries, Count Zero and Mona Lisa Overdrive aren’t very good.
Ra or There is no Antimemetics Division by qntm.
I doubt someone has the balls
I heard Scalzi made a good series, or Hyperion
This would be incredible in a series similar to GOT. So good. At least, if it never gets made, we won't have to watch it get butchered and roland and eddie blackwashed
Roland was blackwashed in the movie I think
Oh yeah.
>guy whos main description was as a western cowboy type
>turn him into a black guy
wow epic
ripped to many good things from the book out of the movies
I didn't get this novel, or why it's been so hyped lately...
The writing is mediocre, and the plot and characters are pretty uninteresting, random, and bizarre. Seemed very juvenile, to me.
One of my all time faves. And it comes with built in giant black cast so no need to do the thing
...but they'd raceswap everyone anyway because said built in giant black cast are the guys who ruin everything and get 99% of the cast killed. Gotta have whitey do that
They would ruin it utterly
>The Black
stopped reading there
Asimov's R. Daneel Olivaw / Elijah Bailey books.
Ender's game seems like an obvious candidate to me
Dune was never a good story. When are you fricks going to stop smoking copium and wake up. If you had to try and sell this book to audience they would instantly fall asleep. The only reason people like it was for the world building which only goes to show how mediocre it is cause anyone can do that. Dune truly is a dune it’s empty as the Sahara and as dry as your moms carpet.
I'm surprised they have done Red Rising yet
ᑐᑌᑎᑕ
Cool font!
>success
Lol no its a flop by all standards
It didn't come close to turning a profit
It's hilarious when you consider how many dunctards were furiously buying out entire rows in theaters in a desperate attempt to bribe Warner into greenlighting an entire goyslop trilogy, that their effort has been for nothing
lmao the absolute cope level right here
yeah bro two dune movies made and third already green lit, it's all a conspiracy it's actually a flop am I rite lmao
Part 1 didn't break even and neither did this one
Part 3 will be stuck in development hell, investors will be asking serious questions if Warner continues to piss away money on this fruitless endeavor
it's so over. messiah heckin canceled
>goyslop
into the trash it goes
That's only domestic, moron. It made 685 mil worldwide on a 190 mil budget. And more importantly, it made more money than the last movie, so studios see the franchise is on an upswing.
Its a success.
>190 x 2.5 = 475 vs 685 box office
Checks out
after the disaster casting dunc had please no more. why is it only in the woke age that we see foundation and dune getting used as toilet paper
The War against the Chtorr
It would work best as a series.
Please NEVER stop posting these in threads on these abysmal movies.
The book version of Chani is total bawd who wanted to metaphorically kill her own daughter so she could live in her body just so that she could frick Paul in her son's body, metaphorically killing him as well.
>culture where body moisture conservation is so deeply ingrained such that shedding a single tear for a deceased loved one is frowned upon
>has a habit of mouth breathing whenever upset
Mowgli from the Jungle Book in space
SHE DID THE EYE THING!!!
YAAA QUEEN OMG
>No more dead Fremen!
Homecoming Saga by Orson Scott Card
Pic related.
Ubik needs a big screen adaptation.
Basically dune but in medieval times. Perfect for adaption.
It's so strange to see a Dune adaption of all things being successful.
>being successful.
It isn't. Unless you consider making its investment back a success.
The series is deemed successful enough for the director to complete the trilogy that he was set out to do, that's a win.
>deemed successful enough
You do understand that part 2 got greenlit before the first domestic box office numbers were in. Or rather, it got announced then. Greenlighting must have happened before it even came out in American cinemas. In other words: WB don't care for success, they've been all in from the start.
They're all businesses so plans would be cancelled if there was no money made. And it's Legendary who made the decisions about Dune, WB is just a distributor.
Legendary already announced that Messiah is in work, they're clearly happy with Part 2's success.
>plans would be cancelled
Plans MIGHT get cancelled if it was an abysmal failure that not only made no money at all, but lost them all of their investment.
But they apparently have contracts for the whole franchise already, and the DUNC films just serve as a pretense to turn Brian Herbert's books into films and series.
>But they apparently have contracts for the whole franchise already
Who they? WB is just a distributor, they don't have the rights. Legendary could always go to another distributor for the next Dune movie if they want to.
It's actually a good thing that Dune movies are just successful enough for the trilogy to get made but not mega billion franchise that everything related will be milked to death.
>just successful enough for the trilogy to get made
Again: Success (or what you perceive as success) has nothing to do with it.
And they're already making a Brian Herbert shit based series for the WB streaming service right now.
The max series has nothing to do with Dune movies. Theater releases come with insane promotion fees that's why usually movies have to make 2.5x its budget to turn profit. The likelihood of something getting a sequel boils down to two things: profit and acclaim.
It's a win in the same way Transformers are a win, then. Except transformers made a lot of money
the trick is to take out all the soul and nuance and just adapt a wikipedia summary of it
Mainstream version of Dune is Star Wars. Denis's Dune movies feel very niche, don't see how anyone could say the Dune movies are like blockbusters unless they never actually watched them.
Very niche if your standards are set on marvel movies
Solaris
Ender's Game
Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep?
Barsoom
What is anon's opinon on Chalamet as Paul? Both appearance wise and acting wise.
Appearance-wise he's spot-on casting.
Acting-wise he could be inconsistent, though ultimately he managed to nail the key scenes anyway.
I honestly don't think there's any other known actor that could pull off the role better than him given Denis's vision.
>Ugly effeminate twink
>spot on
For me, it's this one.
It would be difficult to adapt for sure, but I have ideas on how you could pull it off, and I'm sure that as long as someone cared a lot it would be fantastic.
>With ᑐᑌᑎᑕ a success by most standards
According to whom?
>According to whom?
Unironically according to the same Villeneuve fanboys on reddit who expected it to make over 1 billion at the box office.
I think Mistborn would make a decent live action adaption, whether movie or show. Brandon seems unwilling to give up any sort of creative control, so I don't think he'll cuck like riordan did with DEI. Would like to see Dafne Keen as Vin though.
Stormlight archive has to be animated. The races are way too weird with all the epicanthal folds. The magic system is also way harder to portray in live action without a crazy budget.
Both series would need crazy composers for their musical scores though.
Just start out with the weakest, warbreaker. The way the big bad goes out was basically the equivalent of that whole drop your weapon into your other hand thing that studios love so much
A Young Adult animated movie of Mistborn would work, Stormlight is too clumsy and long, but with judicious cutting could somewhat work
Buckaroo Banzai
I just watched dune and thought it was alright, I like the aesthetics. The story is kinda too simple so far. It's worth watching even if it has the usual crap a modern movie made in the west must have (you know what I mean). Are the movies hated here on Cinemaphile?
this thread mogs the entire catalog of Cinemaphile so hard it isnt even funny. good work gents
Give me Bolo tv series. It's about giant inteligent future tanks.
Slaughterhouse Five
If Dune is the standard of how they are treating the source material? None
This.
The desert shots were bland in a way Ididn't even think was possibe, most acting was atrocious and all the costume designs were bleak and soulless. But the worst thing by far was that the attention and direction was completely displaced. Especially in part two. Villeneuve was clearly creaming himself over his fantasies of the Sardaukar and muh military that this shit was the only thing that stood out. He did not care one inch about the meditative character of the descriptions, about the introspective of the style and about the internal happenings of Paul.
Dunc I at least had a kind of meditative pull in moments, like the leaving of Caladan, but part two was completely devoid of any interest of it. Villeneuve is a director far out of his depth.
in the books paul and chani spend like 5 years together and have kids
Three Body Problem
Book purists are poor cancer. Denis did what needed to be done.
Catering to capeshitters whith no standards for casting, moviemaking and storytelling?
most standards except quality, moviemaking and sci fi
Villememe cant' make movies and sci fi is dead
glad to see people shitting on troonc. what a fricking bland, monochromatic piece of trash
Deus ex
>people growing up in a shitty place makes them the most best fighters
Didn't he use this trope for both the fremen and the sardukar?
raistlin majere kino would be cool