What happened to those other live action pokemon movies that were coming out after detective pikachu. The one based on red&blue and the mewtwo live action movie.
Forget evething after gen 4
I like bw aswell but that's when pokemon design started to suffer, now it's just shit, no pokemon design from gen 6 onwards could sell a movie. Just forgettable over designed but still somehow too simplistic. It's likethe original artists actually knew how animal muscles and bones work to add realism and the new deaigns are blobby garbage. With a bunch of stupid shit added on.
babymons, crossgen evolutions that clash severely with the rest of their lines, most of the dex is made up of pure filler single stage pokemon, blobs with emoticon faces, cringe gimmicks like a santa claws bird. and don't make me mention the western alphabet with an eyeball that's actually supposed to be from ancient japanese ruins
2 years ago
Anonymous
crobat and bellossom really clash i agree with you there, the other crossgen evos are great. baby mons are cute why hate? if youre hating on single stage mons then i'm sorry but youve got tism simple as, those are some of the best designs in the whole game bar none, murkrow skarmory mantine smeargle all very cool designs
2 years ago
Anonymous
>scyther abandoning all the reptillian mantis kaiju elements to become some regular bug with crab claws >rafflesia bud -> rafflesia flower now rafflesia bud -> nvm little hawaiian hula dancer >seadra a spiky badass quasi-dragon because in japan seahorses are said to be baby dragons. kingdra drops the cool spikes in favor of the most half assed seaweed camouflage ever. >crobat abandons the awesome iconic giant vampire mouth >politoed looks completely different from the rest of the line even dropping the boxing gloves punching motif >espeon completely misses the ambiguous animal feel the eevee line is supposed to have to become a literal cat >japanese boxer -- japanese kickboxer -- lol capoeira fighter with a spinning top gimmick >chansey with a bunch of clutter and an haircut to make it resemble nurse joy from the fricking anime
I was gonna address the rest of your post but the fact that you referred to smeargle as a very cool design let's me know I shouldn't waste any time with you. do not reply to me ever again
2 years ago
Anonymous
smeargle is my favorite pokemon bar none, seethe
2 years ago
Anonymous
I don't care, this is where my nostalgia lies. Gen 1 and 2.
2 years ago
Anonymous
I respect that explanation a lot more than making up excuses for gen 2's pitiful roster. rock on
2 years ago
Anonymous
You might be the only anon that dislikes those single stages
2 years ago
Anonymous
look at them motherfricker
2 years ago
Anonymous
I still like their aesthetics for being Pokémon and don’t metagay to b***h about them
2 years ago
Anonymous
>smeagol aka Gollum with a paint brush is awesome >gligar is cool but annoying because how much it spawns >apom is a cute monkey with a hand for a tail
The rest are meh but they're not floating ice cream cones.
2 years ago
Anonymous
Hey look it's all the useless pokemon I forgot existed.
2 years ago
Anonymous
>He doesn't fill all 6 slots with a squad of level 100 Woopers
2 years ago
Anonymous
kingdra, crobat, and steelix are some of the greatest designs in the entire series and single stage pokemon are not inherently bad but you make some good points otherwise
>to me gen 2 is the only other one who has a style that looks natural the way gen 1 does
LOL
2 years ago
Anonymous
post the watercolor art or have your opinion ignored, the choice is yours
2 years ago
Anonymous
sure johtroony because that sure changes everything. not
2 years ago
Anonymous
i'm lovin it idk what to tell you, both these are great. the lack of distinct feathers doesnt bother me the way i guess it must bother you
2 years ago
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>anon thinks this looks like a natural animal biology
2 years ago
Anonymous
looks vaguely like a baby chick or any number of small round birds with small feathers, it's just stylized to bring it into the pokemon world. all good pokemon designs do a good job of blending surreal and real
2 years ago
Anonymous
It looks like it was made using the circle tool. Nothing natural about it.
2 years ago
Anonymous
Hoothoot would be the correct comparison. Natu is more like eggsecute.
2 years ago
Anonymous
so instead of comparing it to the untextured featureless sphere let's compare it to... another untextured featureless sphere that's a little bigger
Gen 2 is when they started doing 🙂 bobblehead designs and pokemon literally based on Jap comedians and emoticons, as well as admitting they were making things softer for westerners too. It’s absolutely a step down from intent to execution.
i was a huge pokemon fan but i always thought some of the earlier designs are stupid. >rattata/cate >literally just a rat >goldeen/seaking >its literally a goldfish with a horn >tauros is just a bull with two tails >ursaring is literally just a bear
i could go on. there are some good designs like pinsir, kabutops, marowak. the same can be said about every gen. except maybe gen 6 onward, most of those look like shit like skwovet and greedent.
having some of the pokemon being more grounded in reality instead of surreal bullshit like ice cream cones made it better. It's good to have a rat, a horse, a butterfly, etc
you are entirely correct. It is too bad that it took gamefreak until gen 5 to really improve movepools and unique items, because the designs sucked ass by then and were impossible to love
You don’t know what “fluke” means. Fluke means that it was unintentionally successful. The movie was in fact horrid. Though I guess it was a fluke in the sense that it was so bad they’ll never make another American Pokemon film
My parents got me a gameboy color when I already had a gameboy pocket so I asked for a link cable and just traded all my pokeymans to myself between red and blue, that's how I got all 150.
the big problem with Detective Pikachu is that they didn't use any of the mechanics or have an interesting party
The only 2 hero pokemon are pikachu and psyduck
There's no scene of pikachu btfoing a water pokemon with electricity. There's nothing in the film about typing.
All the action scenes are just running away from 'crazy' pokemon. They're basically cut and paste car chase/ footchase scenes from generic action films. There's nothing strategic or mechanic related to pokemon itself.
Pokemon are just wallpaper for a totally generic childrens action film. Whereas a pokemon film should revolve around elemental typing, related themes, visuals and metaphor, and battle strategy.
It's the same problem all the adaptation movies used to have, where they make the movie about something completely unrelated to the game, and I'm shocked they made the same mistake with Pokemon.
I was fine with them not doing a league/gym or rocket film they just had to incorporate the mechanics and have more of the original dynamic.
Like the same story they did, but 1 more kid to have the 3 kid thing, and they all have/catch a few pokemon, and have to battle goons/ each other to move the plot along and there's some 'who can defeat that' typing logic and asspulls.
dude its based on the game detective pikachu, a professor layton inspired game
for me it was ok, pikachu looks cute af and the blondie is a hottie, also its one of the first time we see and actual pokemon-human coexistence done right, it has its funny moments too
The real tragedy of detective pikachu is they actually realized the world and designed the Pokemon well and they had a decent budget for it. They even cast it relatively well.
All of the production work was there for this amazing thing which would have balooned but the writing and story was terrible.
The fricking father son melodrama.. jesus christ. What kids universally loved about pokemon is that the story was always just getting away from your parents and being free and the parents were never a problem or even relevent. It was like beavis and butthead.
They should really just stick to their status quo half ass games and anime. The kids still love it. I'm a school bus driver and the kids leave their cards on the bus all the time and it's a pain in the ass making sure the right kid gets it back.
>Misty: Your babies are gonna be beautiful
Did the dub shitters forget Misty is terrified of Caterpies? I don't believe for a second this dialogue was in the original japanese.
Like the Sonic movie; don't make it a video game movie, make it a movie that just happens to have video game characters in it. Honestly, Detective Pikachu seemed like it was trying to do this, it just was bad.
Detective Pikachu is unironically the worst film I've ever seen
This and Jurassic World for me.
even worse than detective pikachu 2?
>detective Pikachu being a fluke
still made more money than those piece of shit sonic movies lol
Those movies are exactly the same trash as the Smurfs and Alvin and the Chipmunks movies except people pretend they aren't
And Detective Pikachu is the same.
Actually, the Sonic movies have soul, due to Jim Carrey. They are both better than Detective Pikachu.
Didn’t it have like 10x the budget tho
Did you mean "flop?" The movie wasn't a fluke. Fricking ESLs...
12 episode series
1-8 is for each gym
9-10 is the elite 4
11 is elite 4 rival
12 is mewtwo
Needs more 'travelling the Pokéworld' filler like the original series, 16 or 24 episodes would be better.
What happened to those other live action pokemon movies that were coming out after detective pikachu. The one based on red&blue and the mewtwo live action movie.
Are you sure you didn't make all that up?
I think you got Nelson Mandela'd into a new timeline
Forget evething after gen 4
I like bw aswell but that's when pokemon design started to suffer, now it's just shit, no pokemon design from gen 6 onwards could sell a movie. Just forgettable over designed but still somehow too simplistic. It's likethe original artists actually knew how animal muscles and bones work to add realism and the new deaigns are blobby garbage. With a bunch of stupid shit added on.
>bw is when pokemon design started to suffer
I'm sure you meant gold and silver
gen 1 and 2 are the only ones worth a damn, if you seriously believe gen 2 is significantly worse then you might just be a moron with shit taste
if you seriously believe gen 2 is not significantly worse then you might be clinically blind
enumerate to me the ways theyre worse, to me gen 2 is the only other one who has a style that looks natural the way gen 1 does
They're just lame and forgettable
wrong. theyre all distinct, well characterized, as well as cool and natural looking.
babymons, crossgen evolutions that clash severely with the rest of their lines, most of the dex is made up of pure filler single stage pokemon, blobs with emoticon faces, cringe gimmicks like a santa claws bird. and don't make me mention the western alphabet with an eyeball that's actually supposed to be from ancient japanese ruins
crobat and bellossom really clash i agree with you there, the other crossgen evos are great. baby mons are cute why hate? if youre hating on single stage mons then i'm sorry but youve got tism simple as, those are some of the best designs in the whole game bar none, murkrow skarmory mantine smeargle all very cool designs
>scyther abandoning all the reptillian mantis kaiju elements to become some regular bug with crab claws
>rafflesia bud -> rafflesia flower now rafflesia bud -> nvm little hawaiian hula dancer
>seadra a spiky badass quasi-dragon because in japan seahorses are said to be baby dragons. kingdra drops the cool spikes in favor of the most half assed seaweed camouflage ever.
>crobat abandons the awesome iconic giant vampire mouth
>politoed looks completely different from the rest of the line even dropping the boxing gloves punching motif
>espeon completely misses the ambiguous animal feel the eevee line is supposed to have to become a literal cat
>japanese boxer -- japanese kickboxer -- lol capoeira fighter with a spinning top gimmick
>chansey with a bunch of clutter and an haircut to make it resemble nurse joy from the fricking anime
I was gonna address the rest of your post but the fact that you referred to smeargle as a very cool design let's me know I shouldn't waste any time with you. do not reply to me ever again
smeargle is my favorite pokemon bar none, seethe
I don't care, this is where my nostalgia lies. Gen 1 and 2.
I respect that explanation a lot more than making up excuses for gen 2's pitiful roster. rock on
You might be the only anon that dislikes those single stages
look at them motherfricker
I still like their aesthetics for being Pokémon and don’t metagay to b***h about them
>smeagol aka Gollum with a paint brush is awesome
>gligar is cool but annoying because how much it spawns
>apom is a cute monkey with a hand for a tail
The rest are meh but they're not floating ice cream cones.
Hey look it's all the useless pokemon I forgot existed.
>He doesn't fill all 6 slots with a squad of level 100 Woopers
kingdra, crobat, and steelix are some of the greatest designs in the entire series and single stage pokemon are not inherently bad but you make some good points otherwise
>to me gen 2 is the only other one who has a style that looks natural the way gen 1 does
LOL
post the watercolor art or have your opinion ignored, the choice is yours
sure johtroony because that sure changes everything. not
i'm lovin it idk what to tell you, both these are great. the lack of distinct feathers doesnt bother me the way i guess it must bother you
>anon thinks this looks like a natural animal biology
looks vaguely like a baby chick or any number of small round birds with small feathers, it's just stylized to bring it into the pokemon world. all good pokemon designs do a good job of blending surreal and real
It looks like it was made using the circle tool. Nothing natural about it.
Hoothoot would be the correct comparison. Natu is more like eggsecute.
so instead of comparing it to the untextured featureless sphere let's compare it to... another untextured featureless sphere that's a little bigger
1>3>4>2>who cares about the rest
Actually, swap 2 and 4 because I forgot how cool Xatu and Chinchou and Espeon are
Gen 2 is when they started doing 🙂 bobblehead designs and pokemon literally based on Jap comedians and emoticons, as well as admitting they were making things softer for westerners too. It’s absolutely a step down from intent to execution.
i was a huge pokemon fan but i always thought some of the earlier designs are stupid.
>rattata/cate
>literally just a rat
>goldeen/seaking
>its literally a goldfish with a horn
>tauros is just a bull with two tails
>ursaring is literally just a bear
i could go on. there are some good designs like pinsir, kabutops, marowak. the same can be said about every gen. except maybe gen 6 onward, most of those look like shit like skwovet and greedent.
having some of the pokemon being more grounded in reality instead of surreal bullshit like ice cream cones made it better. It's good to have a rat, a horse, a butterfly, etc
The Pokemon that are just animals with 2 tails, or purple fur are literally the best ones.
go back to /vp/ you gen2 discord trannies
you are entirely correct. It is too bad that it took gamefreak until gen 5 to really improve movepools and unique items, because the designs sucked ass by then and were impossible to love
>he didn't tear up when celebi died
Literally just a mafia/political thriller movie with weird animals everywhere
You don’t know what “fluke” means. Fluke means that it was unintentionally successful. The movie was in fact horrid. Though I guess it was a fluke in the sense that it was so bad they’ll never make another American Pokemon film
ADAPT THE FRICKING MANGA (except Emerald and b2w2)
I'm Calyrex, I'm the one know as the king of bountiful harvests
does ash ever win? i gave up because he always losers the league and shit
he won the league fairly recently. he's still 10 years old though
Ash won in the Alola season, now he's competing in a tournament with others champions plus that guy who kicked his ass in Kalos.
w-what did they do? ash looks dumb as frick
Ash is more childish and hyper than he used to be, most likely for newer audiences.
i've never used an alakazam coz i never had friends to trade
My parents got me a gameboy color when I already had a gameboy pocket so I asked for a link cable and just traded all my pokeymans to myself between red and blue, that's how I got all 150.
>all
>150
AHAHAH
>muh glitch pokeyman
>b-but voltorb!
>b-but grimer!
*blocks your path*
Is this the most pathetic rendition of an anglerfish in the history of fiction? ima say yes
the big problem with Detective Pikachu is that they didn't use any of the mechanics or have an interesting party
The only 2 hero pokemon are pikachu and psyduck
There's no scene of pikachu btfoing a water pokemon with electricity. There's nothing in the film about typing.
All the action scenes are just running away from 'crazy' pokemon. They're basically cut and paste car chase/ footchase scenes from generic action films. There's nothing strategic or mechanic related to pokemon itself.
Pokemon are just wallpaper for a totally generic childrens action film. Whereas a pokemon film should revolve around elemental typing, related themes, visuals and metaphor, and battle strategy.
There aren't even goons they battle.
It's the same problem all the adaptation movies used to have, where they make the movie about something completely unrelated to the game, and I'm shocked they made the same mistake with Pokemon.
I was fine with them not doing a league/gym or rocket film they just had to incorporate the mechanics and have more of the original dynamic.
Like the same story they did, but 1 more kid to have the 3 kid thing, and they all have/catch a few pokemon, and have to battle goons/ each other to move the plot along and there's some 'who can defeat that' typing logic and asspulls.
Could have still been the same basic plot.
dude its based on the game detective pikachu, a professor layton inspired game
for me it was ok, pikachu looks cute af and the blondie is a hottie, also its one of the first time we see and actual pokemon-human coexistence done right, it has its funny moments too
>let's make a pokemon live action film
>in a setting where there are no pokemon battles
what a great idea
The real tragedy of detective pikachu is they actually realized the world and designed the Pokemon well and they had a decent budget for it. They even cast it relatively well.
All of the production work was there for this amazing thing which would have balooned but the writing and story was terrible.
The fricking father son melodrama.. jesus christ. What kids universally loved about pokemon is that the story was always just getting away from your parents and being free and the parents were never a problem or even relevent. It was like beavis and butthead.
They should really just stick to their status quo half ass games and anime. The kids still love it. I'm a school bus driver and the kids leave their cards on the bus all the time and it's a pain in the ass making sure the right kid gets it back.
start writing their names on the cards you return
>marking a playing card
Anon, you disgust me.
what the fug
We don't talk about the Unova anime.
honestly this is where pokemon jumped the shark for me
they keep recycling the charmander episode over and over and over
It's really the best sad Pokemon story they have and they can tell it as many times as they want, just use a different Pokemon.
emotional bittersweet goodbyes > abandonment porn
>Misty: Your babies are gonna be beautiful
Did the dub shitters forget Misty is terrified of Caterpies? I don't believe for a second this dialogue was in the original japanese.
they recycle that too
Like the Sonic movie; don't make it a video game movie, make it a movie that just happens to have video game characters in it. Honestly, Detective Pikachu seemed like it was trying to do this, it just was bad.
It didn't have enough Pokemon was it's main problem. The Sonic movies are all Sonic with very little human side character melodrama.
Maybe Sonic 2, but Sonic 1 was pretty focused on Tom and Sonic.
imagine the smell
what the frick is this?
The pokemon garbodor being cured in a silly way in the pokemon anime. even back in the day we had a doctor gluing raticate's teeth with superglue
bruh, how did they allow this to air?
>fluke
In what way?