womenbros... what's our response?

Sounds like the weight of responsibility has forced you to make those decisions to change yourself for the better. But I suppose I made no point at all when you yourself have proven it and I was also speaking from personal experience havint been molded by the weight of responsibility as well.

he's right and you are hamster wheeling.
In a perfect world no woman would need to be struck to behave herself, but it's not a perfect world and women are far from the perfect sex.
I've seen far, far more women stay with men who smack them around than leave them. in fact I've seen them cry about how they will always love their abusers despite what they did to them physically.
The ugly truth is the female sex is the submissive one, they need to be dominated. If they will admit it or not.

you jus made this post based on a movie
cringe blue pill drone

>Allowing dumb b***hes to languish in their inadequacies with "Therapy" does nothing.
Exactly. My mother has PTSD and she's been going to therapy for 20 years. She's still the exact same c**t.

It’s not every decision, but yeah if you find yourself lifeless and paralyzed by total lack of decision making, a therapist can help. What’s the problem?

It’s not a good thing but if you have these problems then it’s good when there’s help. Sheesh

Oh sure. Don’t become addicted to therapy, I agree

and now you're performing such extreme mental gymnastics, you've befuddled yourself

You should check the reply chain.

>>it literally does nothing except give people who have trouble with themselves or life, advice on how to handle things they don’t know how to handle
>it literally does nothing except it's puporse

Oh sorry I just skim threads for posts that sound stupid and make snarky responses I didn't even read your full post my bad

That’s crazy because when I went to a therapist after 3 sessions they said I didn’t need to come back unless there was something else I needed help with

Other way around. Cults used methods of psychotherapy to bind members to their specific brand of off-brand psychotherapy. The fact Scientology violently rejects therapy is because they're offering a competing, less effective and more profit oriented version of it with their auditing.

Why mention something you have no experience with?

>uh y-you brought up f-farming
... No, you did. You brought up some of the most grueling and satisfying work, labor, ever invented, as if it was boring, unrewarding.

You are talking like someone who has never done anything with their hands. Never built something real. Read: someone completely feminized.

Anon. I'm not the one trying to convince myself that my current life is better than any alternatives, much less older styles of living.

And I'm telling you that you don't know what you're talking about.

>dude people did boring stuff all the time man, like ya know, farming man? that sooooooo boring
>You've never farmed.
>w-what y-you brought up farming
>No, you did
>w-well okay but like I know about farming and its boring
>You don't know what you're talking about
>y-y-you must be thinking about s-s-something else

This was one of the most pathetic exchanges i've had on this website.

feel free to examine the reply chain.

Yeah a lot of survival is boring, alongside the thrilling challenging stuff. Starting a fire can be boring and frustrating and irritating

Survival IS boring NOW. Because it is so menial, effortless. The concept of a menial task is something that only exists when so little is required to survive.

The only task that is boring is one that ultimately doesn't matter. Like making your bed. Or therapy.

Agreement in principle is sufficient for me. Quibbling over the finer details ultimately doesn't matter.

I don't know how you get bored doing something like taking a minute to brush your teeth. Do you have adhd or something? I don't understand how simple necessary tasks that take no time at all make you feel the sensation of boredom.

No not really, but it’s an example of an unexciting routine thing a character like Rick who does have some sort of thrill-seeking mania would need to care more about. This is all a metaphor for him not wanting to talk to his family about their problems, of course

I didn’t say there wasn’t a spectrum, I was talking about the instance where someone is too thrill seeking to want to do regular productive things, which is what the episode is about. I know you don’t care about the episode but there are people like that, and they could use reminding that the simple shit it’s important. Some people quit drinking water because they like alcohol or soda too much, and shit

Have ever met an alcoholic or a hard drug user? Or again any of these people who don’t drink water because it’s too ‘boring’ for them. It’s nice if you haven’t met them but they do exist.

You got me backwards. It’s not that they use not liking water to justify alcoholism, what happens is they’re alcoholics so they quit drinking water because if they’re drinking anything it should be liquor and they lose their taste for, or habit of, drinking water. A person like this needs to be reminded to drink water, as well as probably quit being an alcoholic. People do this with soda and food too

The point is the mundane and simple tasks that are necessary, which is the point of the episode and the thread. But yes these people do literally get bored with water. They say they don’t like how it doesn’t taste like anything, or doesn’t get them drunk

I’m not saying it’s normal or justifiable to be bored with water, I’m saying some people are crazy enough to need to be brought back down to earth. There are many examples

I’m not saying it’s normal or justifiable to be bored with water, I’m saying some people are crazy enough to need to be brought back down to earth. There are many examples

They are depressed, not bored. You aren't "bringing them back down to earth" by doing something moronic like feeding into their lies and just being like "hey remember to drink water too!".

this debate branch you're on is critically flawed. the reason its stupid to tell a super-genius that he needs to do rote tasks, is because the super-genius can sit down and invent an AI to do them for him.

That's not really a joke. That's woman writing.

A normal person doesn't get bored brushing their teeth or wiping their ass. A super genius like rick would invent a way so he doesn't even have to brush his teeth or wipe his ass. I don't care about the cartoon, I'm just arguing against this guys moronic idea of what "bored" means.

I mean even if you don't consider yourself or these people normal, there is literally zero chance they are getting bored brushing their teeth or wiping their ass. They are just lying to you and you're moronic enough to believe it.

Anon this person was talking about irl and we're talking about how the cartoon quote is moronic and the quote specifically says brushing your teeth is boring.

So you mean one way to clean it is boring vs another isn't boring.

The basic life he's avoiding is honest contact with his family. This is the character who clones himself so he doesn't have to go to dinner, it's been his schtick

Talking to people isn't necessary.

Yeah so he had a choice to make on whether he wanted to make it into a habit that he would enjoy or not. Has nothing to do with necessity or boredom.

Anon thats just called depression, not boredom. If you can't take a minute to go brush your teeth because it's "boring" you're just lying to yourself. Are you this fat girl boss Asian that made the self insert with the shitty quote? Sweety, you aren't bored, you're lazy.

Obviously the point isn't clear enough if it took you this long to finally admit it has literally nothing to do with boredom so the quote is actually awful.

I didn't even read the entire rick and morty therapy quote because that episode was terrible and she was moronic so I don't really care about your assessment on a cartoon character or people trying to sound smart. All I care about is you seem to think boredom = taking a minute to do something. I took a piss and to say it's boring because it was 30 seconds I was stuck doing nothing would be moronic, I can't mentally get bored in a minute.

If fireworks shot out the back of my toilet and heavy death metal started playing or some shit to make my piss "exciting" then okay I guess? You seem to think things either have to be thrilling or boring and there is no in between.

I didn’t say there wasn’t a spectrum, I was talking about the instance where someone is too thrill seeking to want to do regular productive things, which is what the episode is about. I know you don’t care about the episode but there are people like that, and they could use reminding that the simple shit it’s important. Some people quit drinking water because they like alcohol or soda too much, and shit

I legit don't even know what you're even trying to say at this point. First you say there is a spectrum, then you say there isn't a spectrum, and now you're trying to say that there is one and taking quotes literally isn't allowed? People take quotes at face value because of moronic like you that genuinely think it's boring not to brush your teeth with meth every day.

You literally just did.

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If you're a thrill seeker, things that aren't thrilling are boring to you. It's not that complicated

Of course you can distract yourself from important things in their lives. Are you just making up arguments for me now that I never made just to try and justify your moronic liberal use of the word boring when describing things like brushing your teeth?

Didn’t*

There are other things than thrilling and boring, I never said there wasn’t. I used boredom as one example and you went apeshit with it

Why would a drug user or a thrill seeker want to do something productively normal and boring like taking a bus ride sober, or having a job so they don't become homeless like they do? They are addicted to the drug and the thrill. Being a workaholic constantly distracted thrill seeking scientist can be the same way. Its kind of your basic 'I know you're an astronaut honey and you have so many rich and famous friends but please remember to come home and have dinner with me and your children sometimes' thing.

You're stuck too much on the word boring, but it still applies. I'm just talking about anything that's important to do but is disinteresting enough that you don't do it, like any chore or annoying conversation.

Yeah no shit you frickin came in and stuck on a word, with no regard for the conversation. That much is clear.

> A super genius like rick would invent a way so he doesn't even have to brush his teeth or wipe his ass.
Well that's the point isn't it, that Rick is avoiding basic life and especially honest interactions with his family because he actually is smart enough to avoid them. So if he wants to have those family experiences, he's going to have to participate in them by choice. Makes sense to me

The basic life he's avoiding is honest contact with his family. This is the character who clones himself so he doesn't have to go to dinner, it's been his schtick

But Rick had decided he did want to connect with the family at this point, this is all conditional on Rick’s open desire to recover a sense of family. You’re right though if he didn’t want that he could probably science away everything

What if the rote task is talking to the family he wants to get closer to

No, that’s what they wrote, this was the season where they played with Rick committing to caring more about the family. He was in therapy, and avoiding it, because he had trouble talking to his family directly when he could just concoct a distracting adventure

They did that in a prior episode. This is after and partially a part of the ‘Rick circumvents family time using clones robots and science’ bit they were doing for a couple seasons. Remember there was a fake robot Rick at the table and Rick was fricking around in the garage during dinner

In this context therapy is just a way to force this family to talk, because they hadn’t been talking on their own and attempted a more structured scheduled family discussion from a therapist

Nice cope.

you are coping about what matters.

see

Nice cope.

I guess that depends on what you think "matters". For me, my income matters a whole lot. If you're gonna argue that I don't really need it and that I could just go live a life of subsistence alone in the woods where I would never technically be bored, and everything outside of that goal to survive is superfluous and "doesn't matter", then spare me

It sounds like you’re making an emotional argument about having passion for things that are important for you, and not an actual logical argument that there’s life saving shit that can be boring.

But that doesn’t mean there isn’t necessary boring trivial survival, especially in the modern age, which is the message the therapist in the show is trying to get across

Nah I could be bored about something to at needs to be done in a week, or even a day. Your position isn’t validated either, long term survival is literally survival.

Survival can include long term planning and routine behaviors

How about you actually present your definition of survival if you believe everyone else's is incorrect? How are you going to create bridges in this discussion if, according to your posts so far, you don't even agree with the definition everyone else has?

If you're having a philosophical discussion about any topic and you bring up fricking Merriam Webster you have lost the plot completely. Are you telling me that your entire philosophical belief about survival comes from one line?

Oh sure, that's basically true I just feel like it's off topic

>survival
Again, you haven't even defined your world view of what counts as survival. Even in that definition you posted, it could be argued that what this anon said

Survival can include long term planning and routine behaviors

can be included.

I don't know what definition you're using because you haven't defined what you believe survival to be outside of a basic one line definition that would also encompass the points used by your detractors.

I disagree. A medieval peasant trying to provide for his family by working the fields can experience boredom, despite the importance of the upcoming harvest. Now if you're saying that, it would be out of place for someone to experience boredom in an immediate life-or-death situation, then I would agree, but that doesn't seem to be your argument.

Forget debate pervert, you are a debate pedophile.

Do you? How would you know any better than him? Are you seriously trying to claim men didn't use to have to do menial tasks?

Yeah a lot of survival is boring, alongside the thrilling challenging stuff. Starting a fire can be boring and frustrating and irritating

>boredom only exists when survival is trivial
>LMAO U GO BE MONKEE

I like how you can't state fact without someone think you want the opposite.

Do you seriously think people in hunter-gatherer societies were never bored?

sorry bad example, these did a little better tho bro

That doesn't answer my question. You DO think they weren't bored?

Do you seriously think there was never any point in their days when they felt bored? Do you think they never had to do dull repetive chores that they hated? I'm sorry but claiming people never used to get bored is as moronic as claiming people never used to get sad.

You don’t know either, man. But he’s probably right

>the average hunter-gatherer society developed agriculture and cities when they got bored
You're the biggest midwit I've ever talked to and you're acting like it's EVERYONE ELSE who's ignorant of history. Blow it out your ass moron.

Nothing is stopping you from living your dreams of every day being a struggle to survive, just letting you know you can go out and live that reality right now.

What's your point? You want survival to not be trivial right? That is a possibility. So why not go do it?

>people for whom survival was not trivial never got bored
"statements of fact" lmao.

You seem to think boredom just means having nothing to do so you sit around doing nothing. In my job I'm doing constant manual labour all day, I'm always doing something with my hands but that doesn't stop me from being bored all day. You think hunter-gatherers didn't have daily tasks or labour that they found boring?

Yeah see this makes a lot of sense. The reason your arguments seem so strange is because you're operating on a definition of "boredom" that you invented. Frick, this shit happens all the time. You debate someone for an hour and then you eventually realise they're literally just using words wrong and that's why they seem to talk right past you.

There are primitive lifestyles that don’t require a constant fight for survival. There are literally more comfortable ecosystems for humans to live where there is time to do things besides survive

Yeah there are literally safer places on the globe to be a prehistoric human, many of these places allowed the people to become secure enough in survival to have time to entertain themselves and such, which implies prior boredom that was addressed

Sure, and then they grew more comfortable successful and bored, and some put the extra idleness towards other projects

Dude, what are you gonna eat for the next week? Before you answer that, consider the following.
>fridges, fast food, and grocery stores do not exist
>you need to walk to go anywhere
>the fruit in your region is out of season
You either need to get with your bros and kill something that's going to run or fight, or you can go hungry and allow your children to become malnourished. Bear in mind that your bros only work with you because of current mutual interest and would kill you as well if it benefitted them in sexual competition.

You know hunter-gatherer societies weren't constantly on the precipice of starvation, right?

Also, consider the fact that even still today people have to work to survive. If I don't got to work I can't eat and I can't pay rent which means I could be out on the street and in a country like mine living on the streets in the winter will kill you. My job is boring as shit but if I don't do it I don't survive.

They could have fairly safe survival in certain areas if they were the dominant species and found the right environment, sure, they could just get fish out of the right river in a fairly safe place and grow bored between surefire meals of easy fish, or something like that

Right, I forgot there's no difference between humans and apes. My bad.

sorry bad example, these did a little better tho bro

Did you ever work with your hands?

Yes, plenty. Mostly forced, sure, but for the most part I hated it

>they developed it where he killed his own family

You mean retconed, but okay.

point being, the idea there was anything other than completely legitimate reasons for substance abuse and self-destruction wasn't until some obese female chink became a writer.

She doesn't actually say anything, because she doesn't know anything. The long and short of what she said was
>yes therapy is boring but you need to do boring things because you just do

They're not his family. His family is dead. That's the reason for the gap. Can't make it any simpler.

Yes, the direction of the show changes once a fat chink b***h becomes a writer.

Eh maybe I’m used to it

Before the 1960s if a man got a woman pregnant, it was expected that he should man up and marry her. Now it's "get an abortion, b***h". Women absolutely cannot stand the downstream effects of the sexual revolution, which they pushed for in the first place. The sexual revolution allowed men to pump and dump them. Women didn't realize how much they would hate removing romance and consequences from sex. Now relations between men and women are very "gay". Grinder came first. Tinder is the immitator. The concept of no strings attached sex is indeed very "gay".

No fault divorce and consequence free sex ruined romance forever. Emotionally loaded concepts like romance require costly trade offs. Love is better when it's dangerous. Love isn't dangerous anymore.

I am more referring to the past. The post 60s generation. The zenith of the sexual revolution is no one having sex. We are past the point of romance. It died a long time ago.