>Yoda, the wisest jedi, senses grave danger in his training >mace windu, second guy after yoda, doesn't like him >has emotional outbursts and goes against jedi training at the drop of a hat
welcome him onboard!
>refuse to save childs mother even though they easily could >gaslight him as used goods since he wasn't groomed since age 10 >let his mother be raped to death by sand Black folk >"why are you mentally unhinged lol?"
to save childs mother even though they easily could
For the last time why would they do that. They bring kids in at a you g age so that they would have no attachment to their parents. So why would they make the exception Anakin.
>wookieepedia replaced the picture of naked aayla secura with shirtless kylo and anakin for their anatomy article on breast and only 1 out of 43 people in the talk section had a problem with it
Another sign of the deterioration of the franchise.
>be a slave until you're 9 >be separated from your mother and indoctrinated by emotionless, celibate monks >Jedi treat you like shit because you're different (joined too late) and masters don't trust you (as seen in Episode 1 where they judge him like a piece of meat) >be told to suppress all your emotions >be groomed by the greatest manipulator in the galaxy, and he's your only non-Jedi friend and the only one that's not stupidly hard on you all the time for your humanly mistakes >be given a god complex because you're told you're literally the chosen one and soon to be most powerful person of all time >have nightmares about your mother suffering and dying, but be told by Jedi to ignore it >finally get the chance to see your mom >she was tortured and raped and dies in your arms >have to fight on the front lines of a galactic war for 3 years >have premonitions about your wife dying the same way the ones about your mom came true >freak out >Jedi still don't trust you, ask you to spy on your best non-Jedi friend >put you on council but don't promote you to master, even though you're top 5 strongest Jedi in the galaxy, making you seem like a joke >still turn in Sith Lord who promised to save your wife because of your loyalty to the Jedi >Jedi don't trust you again and don't take you to arrest the most powerful villain in the galaxy >go to help anyway and see Jedi, who was a dick to you your whole life, about to break his own rules and murder a prisoner, fricking hypocrites >see last chance to save your beloved wife, freak out in a split second decision and cut douchebag Jedi's hand off >now feel like you've fricked up so hard you have no choice but to join the Dark Side, hey at least you can save your wife
Checked and based. I used to say "clone wars fixed Anakin's motivations by adding more context" but there is plenty of build up to Anakin's downfall in the films alone.
George Lucas knows more about the characters he created than you do. And you failed to comprehend the narrative of both the movies and the show, and you're arrogant enough to present your false misinterpretation as a gospel of truth. Sit down. Be humble.
>George Lucas knows more about the characters he created than you do
Funnily enough you posted a pretty good example with your pic. I've seen the "point" a depressing amount of times how Sam Jackson was supposedly a miscast for Mace because he supposedly doesn't give off the energy and vibe of a zen jedi master, when the whole point of the character is that he isn't a traditional all smiles jedi like Kenobi. Obviously Sam himself contributed even more to the character through his own ideas (like the purple lightsaber) but I'd say the reason all of it works is because George casted someone perfect for the role to begin with who gives off the exact energy and personality that Mace is supposed to project, and adapted to those requests with intuition
Smelly, lying genndygay. >ComingSoon.net: How much overlap will there be between Genndy's "Clone Wars" animated series and the new feature film and television series? >George Lucas: Well, the Genndy show was an experiment that we did with Cartoon Network that was 5 minutes each, they went sort of where commercials normally go, and it was an experiment, not only in doing five-minute shows, but it was an experiment in trying to translate "Star Wars" into an animated medium, and we felt very good about that. We thought it turned out really well, and we then took it to the next level, which was to do a full-out animated series of "The Clone Wars." There's not much overlap. Genndy did most of the animation and most of the stories for the first experimental series, and this one I'm pretty much following the mythology and the rules of the features, so it's a little bit different, but it's very much like the features except it's in animation.
>“I am the father of our Star Wars movie world - the filmed entertainment, the features and now the animated film and television series,” he says. “And I’m going to do a live-action television series. Those are all things I am very involved in: I set them up and I train the people and I go through them all. I’m the father; that’s my work. Then we have the licensing group, which does the games, toys and books, and all that other stuff. I call that the son - and the son does pretty much what he wants.” He laughs. “Once in a while, they ask a question like ‘Can we kill off Yoda?’, things like that, but it’s very loose. Then we have the third group, the holy ghost, which is the bloggers and fans. They have created their own world. I worry about the father’s world. The son and holy ghost can go their own way.” — George Lucas, Flannelled One, July 2008
>“This is Star Wars, and I don’t make a distinction between The Clone Wars series and the films.” –George Lucas, SciFiNow, October 2011
2 years ago
Anonymous
>you must listen to the man who checked out after 2005
Take a seat, zoomie.
Funnily enough, I was old enough to remember watching TCW as a teenager. So I’m not as young as you are
2 years ago
Anonymous
>>you must listen to the man who checked out after 2005 >source: dude trust me
Yeah, I'd rather listen to the man himself, instead of your delusions, eternally coping genndygay.
2 years ago
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>actually taking award shows seriously
TCWtrannies really be coping
2 years ago
Anonymous
>you must listen to the man who checked out after 2005
[...]
Funnily enough, I was old enough to remember watching TCW as a teenager. So I’m not as young as you are
Seethe wanker
2 years ago
Anonymous
>man who checked out after 2005
Based on what?
2 years ago
Anonymous
Based on his eternal coping that his shitty toy ad made by genndy has been irrelevant for the last 15 years.
2 years ago
Anonymous
This was the beginning of the end of star wars
2 years ago
Anonymous
>end of star wars
Disney acquisition….
2 years ago
Anonymous
My main problem with micro-2D series didn’t includes Ahsoka Tano. Guess Dave missed out with Russian chad.
It doesn't matter what he gave more credit to because the 2003 series was better regardless.
It's not like he gave KOTOR 1 and 2 his input but they're peak Star Wars.
2 years ago
Anonymous
I know. I was just showing the TCWtroony that Lucas didn’t give a shit about TCW, along with SW after 2005
2 years ago
Anonymous
Still better. Filoni is a man of cliches. He gets Lucas but only on a superficial level.
2 years ago
Anonymous
Meant for
Smelly, lying genndygay. >ComingSoon.net: How much overlap will there be between Genndy's "Clone Wars" animated series and the new feature film and television series? >George Lucas: Well, the Genndy show was an experiment that we did with Cartoon Network that was 5 minutes each, they went sort of where commercials normally go, and it was an experiment, not only in doing five-minute shows, but it was an experiment in trying to translate "Star Wars" into an animated medium, and we felt very good about that. We thought it turned out really well, and we then took it to the next level, which was to do a full-out animated series of "The Clone Wars." There's not much overlap. Genndy did most of the animation and most of the stories for the first experimental series, and this one I'm pretty much following the mythology and the rules of the features, so it's a little bit different, but it's very much like the features except it's in animation.
>“I am the father of our Star Wars movie world - the filmed entertainment, the features and now the animated film and television series,” he says. “And I’m going to do a live-action television series. Those are all things I am very involved in: I set them up and I train the people and I go through them all. I’m the father; that’s my work. Then we have the licensing group, which does the games, toys and books, and all that other stuff. I call that the son - and the son does pretty much what he wants.” He laughs. “Once in a while, they ask a question like ‘Can we kill off Yoda?’, things like that, but it’s very loose. Then we have the third group, the holy ghost, which is the bloggers and fans. They have created their own world. I worry about the father’s world. The son and holy ghost can go their own way.” — George Lucas, Flannelled One, July 2008
>“This is Star Wars, and I don’t make a distinction between The Clone Wars series and the films.” –George Lucas, SciFiNow, October 2011
2 years ago
Anonymous
>because the 2003 series was better regardless
It wasn't, it was ugly and moronic, and had no substance to speak of. It was a toy ad, which is why it was literally put into ad segments. >It's not like he gave KOTOR 1 and 2 his input but they're peak Star Wars.
KOTOR 1 is literally a rehash of Star Wars tropes, and KOTOR 2 is an unfinished, ugly, buggy mess of a game, with Avellone lecturing you for 30 hours via his mouthpiece character. They are far from being "peak" Star Wars.
2 years ago
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>and had no substance to speak of
style is substance moron >visual medium >hurr why is it prioritising visuals???
2 years ago
Anonymous
>style is substance moron
You must be thinking Tarantino is the most profound filmmaker alive then, huh? Fricking moron. Expected of a genndygay.
2 years ago
Anonymous
>buh buh buh whatabout-
I don't care, homosexual >profound
substance doesn't require profundity
2 years ago
Anonymous
>itt nuwars gay falseflags as a Lucaspurist to shittalk all the EUgays
2 years ago
Anonymous
Did the voice in your walls tell you that? Because there is nothing factual to indicate that itt. You made up that strawman yourself.
>now feel like you've fricked up so hard you have no choice but to join the Dark Side, hey at least you can save your wife
>IMMEDIATELY told "Well... haha... actually, I don't know how to save your wife... yet.... haha" >Don't worry though, we'll work it out together (even though she's 9 months pregnant). >Instead of doing that, go and murder all the children at your almost life-long home. Also kill everyone else too
>He actually does it
There's no justification for him going from making a dumb mistake in the heat of the moment, to immediately murdering children in droves.
Not that guy, but imo Anakin just designated jedis as “enemies of the republic” and an obstacle to his wife’s health.
So they needed to go.
Anakin is incredibly fricking loyal and murderous against his enemies. This has been proven again and again.
And Windu literally broke the code in front of him. The text that anakin tried his hardest to uphold. The entire edifice of jedi orthodoxy fricking died right there.
His choice became very easy. He was a soldier of the republic, and his wife was in mortal peril and needed to be saved.
So he did what he always does, kill everyone with his clones
>And Windu literally broke the code in front of him.
That's a big point that people tend to handwave as >oh why does Anakin even care?
Like, this guy's been getting increasingly frustrated with the Jedi being shiftless homosexuals who hide behind the Jedi code. And now he sees Mace Dindu, that prick who slighted him before when they wouldn't make him a Master, brazenly willing to extra-judicially execute a senior senator. And not just any senator, but one of the few people who's been consistently good to him since he left Tattooine. I'd probably cut the fricker's hand off too
To be fair the Council had a good point by denying a 9 year old slave to the Jedi Order. That dude was always going to have a chip on his shoulder. Qui-Gon needed to give his balls a tug and stop treating his apprentices like Pokemon.
>>Jedi treat you like shit
The Jedi never treated him like shit. They treated him like everyone else. Where does this revisionism come from that suggest that The Jedi were always waiting for his downfall?
>revisionism
TPM >MACE WINDU : No. He will not be trained. >MACE WINDU : He is too old. There is already too much anger in him. >YODA : Clouded, this boy's future is. Masked by his youth.
>YODA : The Chosen One the boy may be; nevertheless, grave danger I fear in
his training.
AOTC >WINDU : Do you think Obi-Wan's apprentice will be able to bring balance to the Force? >YODA : Only if he chooses to follow his destiny.
>WINDU : He has exceptional skills. The Council is confident in its decision, Obi-Wan. If the prophecy is true, he weill be the one to bring balance to the Force. >OBI-WAN : But he still has much to learn. And his abilities have made him... well... arrogant. I realise now what you and Master Yoda knew from the beginning... the boy was too old to start the training and...
ROTS >OBI-WAN : With all due respect, Master, is he not the Chosen One? Is he not to destroy the Sith and bring balance to the Force? >WINDU : So the prophecy says. >YODA : A prophecy . . . that misread could have been.
You conveniently omit that the absolute majority of the council voted in favor of his training in TPM.
You conveniently omit that many Jedi have become arrogant, and it's not something exclusive to Anakin, which Yoda said.
You conveniently omit that Windu told Obi-Wan to have faith in his apprentice.
You conveniently omit that the only reason Mace gave Anakin shit in RotS, was because he was pals with Palps, and he literally put him on the Council unilaterally.
He was treated like everyone else. He was accepted into the Jedi family by the majority, and trained well. People who think he was treated like shit are legitimately braindead, entitled morons, who missed the point entirely.
>the absolute majority of the council voted in favor of his training
No they fricking didn't, the Council rejects him for training, it's only after Qui Gon dies that Yoda allows it >You conveniently omit that many Jedi have become arrogant
And? >You conveniently omit that Windu told Obi-Wan to have faith in his apprentice.
While also saying that he himself doesn't have complete faith, yes >You conveniently omit that the only reason Mace gave Anakin shit in RotS
You make it sound like it's a position Mace only took beginning in ROTS
No. And there was no reason to. He had plenty of privilege already, and was looked on with favor. He would have eventually been master and on the council. He's just a fricking brat.
Butterfly effect might have had an effect. Instead of chilling with sheev at an opera bed probably be combing through the Jedi archives (the ones you only get access to as master) looking for a way to prevent padmes death.
but would padme have died if anakin hadn't gone full moron? i mean, i always thought palpatine knew how these events would play out
last time i watched star wars was in like 6th grade so i don't remember exactly
Nah. Without any foreknowledge of how he'd turn out, I still wouldn't want him on the Council because he's a young, entitled, impulsive moron. I'd use Kenobi to manipulate him into believing that sitting on the Council is incredibly boring and beneath him, that he's an active Jedi who'd much rather be out there doing good than sitting in a room, endlessly debating.
Sure, what’s the worst that could happen? It’s not like he’s going to kill more kids if they let him in. At least this way everyone can keep an eye on him.
Probably not. Council members have access to the restricted parts of the Jedi archives, which contained secret knowledge of the Force, which was what he wanted access to in order to gain the knowledge of how to stop Padme's death from coming true.
qui-gon should have cut his head off as soon as he saw how powerful he could become.
he was too old to start training yet he ignored that shit and because of that billions died.
>cut the head off from the literal messiah that has been foretold in ancient texts the moment you see him
I’m sure that’s something that Windu, that eternally butthurt Black person, would do. But quigon, unlike your mystery meat jedi council of spearchuckers is a pious white man of respect.
He trusts in the Lord and he was ultimately proven right.
While Anakin was right about many things, he literally had no fricking reason to be on the council. If anything he would've probably deserved the title of Jedi Master, but what the frick did he have to contribute to a "council" of thinkers and debaters?
Being stronger, faster and better doesn't make him wiser or smarter, in fact one of his core traits is impulsivity
For one I think Anakin should be put on the Council, granted the privileges of accessing the archives and our unending support should his loved ones are in danger. After all his visions came to pass and he was too late to save his mother. How can claim that we care for the Galaxy if we do not care for one of our ownn?
Why not? The jedi council are just a bunch of fricks who sit around talking about shit and not doing anything. It's not like he'll be able to control the council.
yeah i would knowning this dude the so called child of prophecy, ill pamper this motherfricker with whatever he wants; want to frick broads on the side buddy? sure i know ayla secura is down for a gangbang, want to do deathsticks and decapitate youngling? i got elan sel'sabagno on speed dial baby and curved lightsabers CURVED. So long as anakin get rids of the sith im down even if he commits a warcrime
This has always been one of the weakest plot points, at least for me.
What makes you a Jedi Master? The Council's approval?
If yes, Anakin should have known this and realized he was being moronic. He was like... what, 22 or something? assuming mastery means something other than just acceptance he should have known he was too young to be considered for it.
He was too young, reckless and influenciable. That, combined with him being as strong as he was, is a recipe for disaster if you dont have someone to guide him properly, something the Jedi didnt want to do.
Then comes the other option: is mastery about power? Because he was pretty much gtfoing everyone there that wasnt Yoda or Mace Windu, and he had trained a padawan before.
If that's the measure, the Jedi were literally moronic.
However, the biggest moron of them all with all this stuff was Obi Wan, even if he is my fave Jedi. (Ewan McGregor and his gay show can rot tho).
Obi Wan KNEW that the Jedi constricting strong feelings tend to lead to disaster (see: Count Dooku) and instead of opposing the dogma and acknowledge that they were forcing Anakin into Palpatine's arms he was just > well I guess I have to let go
Fricking shit tier plot point. This is why prequels struggle so hard: you cant break canon.
tldr I would have denied him the entry to the Council due to him getting brainwashed by Palpatine because polbrained people are morons.
Is he a Jedi MASTER????
Ki-Adi wasn't a Jedi Master either when he got on the Council so what was Anakin's issue again?
EU retcon.
Ki Adi was always a Jedi Master and he never had wives/children.
Nah, he had wives and children. He deserved that harem just for being born the chad gender.
Anakin's white. The council needs diversity
"The Force" is kinda a cop out answer but maybe the Jedi counsel could sense that Anakin was the kinda guy that would murder younglings
Because Anakin was an insecure homosexual, whereas Ki-Adi-Mundi was a chad who was able to appreciate the opportunity he'd been given
Not with the rank of Master
Outrageous. Unfair, if you will.
Allow him on my council I would, if agreed to bring a pair of Padme panties to every meeting did he
Smelly
>How you get so big eating food of this kind??
yeah because he's genetically superior to every single midlet on the council
This. Anakin had a midi-count 4x the average Jedi and 2x Yoda/Palpatine. He was insanely powerful
They unironically fricked up his training on purpose so he wouldn’t be too strong.
He was already mogging Obi wan in ep2 throughout
yeah probably. i would be more concerned about why there are multiple women on the council. women in the workplace is a fricking travesty.
>Yoda, the wisest jedi, senses grave danger in his training
>mace windu, second guy after yoda, doesn't like him
>has emotional outbursts and goes against jedi training at the drop of a hat
welcome him onboard!
>refuse to save childs mother even though they easily could
>gaslight him as used goods since he wasn't groomed since age 10
>let his mother be raped to death by sand Black folk
>"why are you mentally unhinged lol?"
Anakin is the true victim
Pretty much. Mace said he didn't fit the Jedi code well enough and then straight up broke it right in front of him to suit his need to kill the sneed
>refuse to save childs mother even though they easily could
Save her from what?
nice b8
Wow, um, was the N-word really necessary here? Would've been a good post otherwise.
>Wow, um, was the N-word really necessary here? Would've been a good post otherwise.
>normie reaction
Oh shut up.
Anakin worked on Watto's scrap yard. He didn't buy parts for a droid or the racer. He used junk that Watto might have deamed un-sellable
to save childs mother even though they easily could
For the last time why would they do that. They bring kids in at a you g age so that they would have no attachment to their parents. So why would they make the exception Anakin.
palpatine forced them to take him in but they played around it by not giving him the rank of a master did you watch the movie or not
He doesn’t meet the diversity quota so no I would not let him in.
Wasnt a thing in 2005
Affirmative Action goes back to 1964 Chud.
He's too young and probably hasn't even seen a vegana.
I would let him on my council if you know where i'm getting at
>wookieepedia replaced the picture of naked aayla secura with shirtless kylo and anakin for their anatomy article on breast and only 1 out of 43 people in the talk section had a problem with it
Another sign of the deterioration of the franchise.
>be a slave until you're 9
>be separated from your mother and indoctrinated by emotionless, celibate monks
>Jedi treat you like shit because you're different (joined too late) and masters don't trust you (as seen in Episode 1 where they judge him like a piece of meat)
>be told to suppress all your emotions
>be groomed by the greatest manipulator in the galaxy, and he's your only non-Jedi friend and the only one that's not stupidly hard on you all the time for your humanly mistakes
>be given a god complex because you're told you're literally the chosen one and soon to be most powerful person of all time
>have nightmares about your mother suffering and dying, but be told by Jedi to ignore it
>finally get the chance to see your mom
>she was tortured and raped and dies in your arms
>have to fight on the front lines of a galactic war for 3 years
>have premonitions about your wife dying the same way the ones about your mom came true
>freak out
>Jedi still don't trust you, ask you to spy on your best non-Jedi friend
>put you on council but don't promote you to master, even though you're top 5 strongest Jedi in the galaxy, making you seem like a joke
>still turn in Sith Lord who promised to save your wife because of your loyalty to the Jedi
>Jedi don't trust you again and don't take you to arrest the most powerful villain in the galaxy
>go to help anyway and see Jedi, who was a dick to you your whole life, about to break his own rules and murder a prisoner, fricking hypocrites
>see last chance to save your beloved wife, freak out in a split second decision and cut douchebag Jedi's hand off
>now feel like you've fricked up so hard you have no choice but to join the Dark Side, hey at least you can save your wife
Checked and based. I used to say "clone wars fixed Anakin's motivations by adding more context" but there is plenty of build up to Anakin's downfall in the films alone.
>thinking TCW gave Anakin more context
Lmao, TCW’s Anakin wasn’t even Anakin
George Lucas knows more about the characters he created than you do. And you failed to comprehend the narrative of both the movies and the show, and you're arrogant enough to present your false misinterpretation as a gospel of truth. Sit down. Be humble.
>George Lucas knows more about the characters he created than you do
Funnily enough you posted a pretty good example with your pic. I've seen the "point" a depressing amount of times how Sam Jackson was supposedly a miscast for Mace because he supposedly doesn't give off the energy and vibe of a zen jedi master, when the whole point of the character is that he isn't a traditional all smiles jedi like Kenobi. Obviously Sam himself contributed even more to the character through his own ideas (like the purple lightsaber) but I'd say the reason all of it works is because George casted someone perfect for the role to begin with who gives off the exact energy and personality that Mace is supposed to project, and adapted to those requests with intuition
>thinking filoni’s fan fic is a representation of Lucas
George got more credits in the 2003 series
>George got more credits in the 2003 series
Canon? - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OXQwBtvenos
>canon
Lmao, imagine caring about what execs say is canon
You should reconsider.
Nope
Take a seat, zoomie.
Smelly, lying genndygay.
>ComingSoon.net: How much overlap will there be between Genndy's "Clone Wars" animated series and the new feature film and television series?
>George Lucas: Well, the Genndy show was an experiment that we did with Cartoon Network that was 5 minutes each, they went sort of where commercials normally go, and it was an experiment, not only in doing five-minute shows, but it was an experiment in trying to translate "Star Wars" into an animated medium, and we felt very good about that. We thought it turned out really well, and we then took it to the next level, which was to do a full-out animated series of "The Clone Wars." There's not much overlap. Genndy did most of the animation and most of the stories for the first experimental series, and this one I'm pretty much following the mythology and the rules of the features, so it's a little bit different, but it's very much like the features except it's in animation.
>“I am the father of our Star Wars movie world - the filmed entertainment, the features and now the animated film and television series,” he says. “And I’m going to do a live-action television series. Those are all things I am very involved in: I set them up and I train the people and I go through them all. I’m the father; that’s my work. Then we have the licensing group, which does the games, toys and books, and all that other stuff. I call that the son - and the son does pretty much what he wants.” He laughs. “Once in a while, they ask a question like ‘Can we kill off Yoda?’, things like that, but it’s very loose. Then we have the third group, the holy ghost, which is the bloggers and fans. They have created their own world. I worry about the father’s world. The son and holy ghost can go their own way.” — George Lucas, Flannelled One, July 2008
>“This is Star Wars, and I don’t make a distinction between The Clone Wars series and the films.” –George Lucas, SciFiNow, October 2011
>you must listen to the man who checked out after 2005
Funnily enough, I was old enough to remember watching TCW as a teenager. So I’m not as young as you are
>>you must listen to the man who checked out after 2005
>source: dude trust me
Yeah, I'd rather listen to the man himself, instead of your delusions, eternally coping genndygay.
>actually taking award shows seriously
TCWtrannies really be coping
Seethe wanker
>man who checked out after 2005
Based on what?
Based on his eternal coping that his shitty toy ad made by genndy has been irrelevant for the last 15 years.
This was the beginning of the end of star wars
>end of star wars
Disney acquisition….
My main problem with micro-2D series didn’t includes Ahsoka Tano. Guess Dave missed out with Russian chad.
It doesn't matter what he gave more credit to because the 2003 series was better regardless.
It's not like he gave KOTOR 1 and 2 his input but they're peak Star Wars.
I know. I was just showing the TCWtroony that Lucas didn’t give a shit about TCW, along with SW after 2005
Still better. Filoni is a man of cliches. He gets Lucas but only on a superficial level.
Meant for
>because the 2003 series was better regardless
It wasn't, it was ugly and moronic, and had no substance to speak of. It was a toy ad, which is why it was literally put into ad segments.
>It's not like he gave KOTOR 1 and 2 his input but they're peak Star Wars.
KOTOR 1 is literally a rehash of Star Wars tropes, and KOTOR 2 is an unfinished, ugly, buggy mess of a game, with Avellone lecturing you for 30 hours via his mouthpiece character. They are far from being "peak" Star Wars.
>and had no substance to speak of
style is substance moron
>visual medium
>hurr why is it prioritising visuals???
>style is substance moron
You must be thinking Tarantino is the most profound filmmaker alive then, huh? Fricking moron. Expected of a genndygay.
>buh buh buh whatabout-
I don't care, homosexual
>profound
substance doesn't require profundity
>itt nuwars gay falseflags as a Lucaspurist to shittalk all the EUgays
Did the voice in your walls tell you that? Because there is nothing factual to indicate that itt. You made up that strawman yourself.
>now feel like you've fricked up so hard you have no choice but to join the Dark Side, hey at least you can save your wife
>IMMEDIATELY told "Well... haha... actually, I don't know how to save your wife... yet.... haha"
>Don't worry though, we'll work it out together (even though she's 9 months pregnant).
>Instead of doing that, go and murder all the children at your almost life-long home. Also kill everyone else too
>He actually does it
There's no justification for him going from making a dumb mistake in the heat of the moment, to immediately murdering children in droves.
>he doesn't realize that Anakin needed to accumulate dark side power as quickly as possible in order to "save Padme."
Filtered.
not that guy but that's a cool idea and probably was what the intention was so why doesn't it come through the movie at all?
Not that guy, but imo Anakin just designated jedis as “enemies of the republic” and an obstacle to his wife’s health.
So they needed to go.
Anakin is incredibly fricking loyal and murderous against his enemies. This has been proven again and again.
And Windu literally broke the code in front of him. The text that anakin tried his hardest to uphold. The entire edifice of jedi orthodoxy fricking died right there.
His choice became very easy. He was a soldier of the republic, and his wife was in mortal peril and needed to be saved.
So he did what he always does, kill everyone with his clones
>And Windu literally broke the code in front of him.
That's a big point that people tend to handwave as >oh why does Anakin even care?
Like, this guy's been getting increasingly frustrated with the Jedi being shiftless homosexuals who hide behind the Jedi code. And now he sees Mace Dindu, that prick who slighted him before when they wouldn't make him a Master, brazenly willing to extra-judicially execute a senior senator. And not just any senator, but one of the few people who's been consistently good to him since he left Tattooine. I'd probably cut the fricker's hand off too
can someone make a vocaroo for me? im not reading all that
Jesus fricking Christ
could you vocaroo that? im not reading all that either
Quads confirm
Based and checked. Prequel haters eternally btfo'd
To be fair the Council had a good point by denying a 9 year old slave to the Jedi Order. That dude was always going to have a chip on his shoulder. Qui-Gon needed to give his balls a tug and stop treating his apprentices like Pokemon.
>>Jedi treat you like shit
The Jedi never treated him like shit. They treated him like everyone else. Where does this revisionism come from that suggest that The Jedi were always waiting for his downfall?
>revisionism
TPM
>MACE WINDU : No. He will not be trained.
>MACE WINDU : He is too old. There is already too much anger in him.
>YODA : Clouded, this boy's future is. Masked by his youth.
>YODA : The Chosen One the boy may be; nevertheless, grave danger I fear in
his training.
AOTC
>WINDU : Do you think Obi-Wan's apprentice will be able to bring balance to the Force?
>YODA : Only if he chooses to follow his destiny.
>WINDU : He has exceptional skills. The Council is confident in its decision, Obi-Wan. If the prophecy is true, he weill be the one to bring balance to the Force.
>OBI-WAN : But he still has much to learn. And his abilities have made him... well... arrogant. I realise now what you and Master Yoda knew from the beginning... the boy was too old to start the training and...
ROTS
>OBI-WAN : With all due respect, Master, is he not the Chosen One? Is he not to destroy the Sith and bring balance to the Force?
>WINDU : So the prophecy says.
>YODA : A prophecy . . . that misread could have been.
That's not treating him like shit.
You conveniently omit that the absolute majority of the council voted in favor of his training in TPM.
You conveniently omit that many Jedi have become arrogant, and it's not something exclusive to Anakin, which Yoda said.
You conveniently omit that Windu told Obi-Wan to have faith in his apprentice.
You conveniently omit that the only reason Mace gave Anakin shit in RotS, was because he was pals with Palps, and he literally put him on the Council unilaterally.
He was treated like everyone else. He was accepted into the Jedi family by the majority, and trained well. People who think he was treated like shit are legitimately braindead, entitled morons, who missed the point entirely.
>the absolute majority of the council voted in favor of his training
No they fricking didn't, the Council rejects him for training, it's only after Qui Gon dies that Yoda allows it
>You conveniently omit that many Jedi have become arrogant
And?
>You conveniently omit that Windu told Obi-Wan to have faith in his apprentice.
While also saying that he himself doesn't have complete faith, yes
>You conveniently omit that the only reason Mace gave Anakin shit in RotS
You make it sound like it's a position Mace only took beginning in ROTS
>treated him like everyone else
He was space Jesus, fathered by the Force. Treating him any less than a KING was an insult.
No. And there was no reason to. He had plenty of privilege already, and was looked on with favor. He would have eventually been master and on the council. He's just a fricking brat.
Do you think he jerks off with the robot hand or with his left hand?
Padme's Hand
Why would he jerk off when his padawan is Ahsoka and his fricking wife is Natalie Portman?
That his sister you sicko
>Just assign him the label of chosen one
>Be a dick to him and emotionally stunt him for some reason
Did Anakin do anything wrong?
he killed 17 children
In self defence.
>Did Anakin do anything wrong?
He starred in a shit movie trilogy.
the real question is: would being allowed on the jedi council stop him from ultimately going postal
Butterfly effect might have had an effect. Instead of chilling with sheev at an opera bed probably be combing through the Jedi archives (the ones you only get access to as master) looking for a way to prevent padmes death.
I'm willing to bet that knowledge was in the forbidden archives and that librarian would be a total b***h about letting you read.
but would padme have died if anakin hadn't gone full moron? i mean, i always thought palpatine knew how these events would play out
last time i watched star wars was in like 6th grade so i don't remember exactly
Nah. Without any foreknowledge of how he'd turn out, I still wouldn't want him on the Council because he's a young, entitled, impulsive moron. I'd use Kenobi to manipulate him into believing that sitting on the Council is incredibly boring and beneath him, that he's an active Jedi who'd much rather be out there doing good than sitting in a room, endlessly debating.
Imagine being part of an elite Jedi order that existed for thousands of years across the universe and being defeated by teenage angst
Sure, what’s the worst that could happen? It’s not like he’s going to kill more kids if they let him in. At least this way everyone can keep an eye on him.
Will he still turn evil?
Probably not. Council members have access to the restricted parts of the Jedi archives, which contained secret knowledge of the Force, which was what he wanted access to in order to gain the knowledge of how to stop Padme's death from coming true.
qui-gon should have cut his head off as soon as he saw how powerful he could become.
he was too old to start training yet he ignored that shit and because of that billions died.
>cut the head off from the literal messiah that has been foretold in ancient texts the moment you see him
I’m sure that’s something that Windu, that eternally butthurt Black person, would do. But quigon, unlike your mystery meat jedi council of spearchuckers is a pious white man of respect.
He trusts in the Lord and he was ultimately proven right.
gay
While Anakin was right about many things, he literally had no fricking reason to be on the council. If anything he would've probably deserved the title of Jedi Master, but what the frick did he have to contribute to a "council" of thinkers and debaters?
Being stronger, faster and better doesn't make him wiser or smarter, in fact one of his core traits is impulsivity
Yeah, it's cool. He can have my seat. I'll stand.
Keep your friend close but keep your enemy closer
So yes I will let him in with the rank of Jedi Master too
No! He loves his mother, Smreey
why do all britbongs look like anemic vampires?
The prequels sucked.
Oh yeah? Prove it, big guy.
the whole chosen one stuff was the biggest mistake George made with the story of prequels
Nah
what is worse then?
The ST
The ST isn't a mistake Lucas made with the story of the prequels.
On a conceptual level it's probably the stupidest and among the most useless.
For one I think Anakin should be put on the Council, granted the privileges of accessing the archives and our unending support should his loved ones are in danger. After all his visions came to pass and he was too late to save his mother. How can claim that we care for the Galaxy if we do not care for one of our ownn?
Sure, why not? He was an angsty, immature incel, but everyone else on the council was also dumb as frick, so why not?
He was married to a 10/10. So not an incel.
Also, he spent half his life as a slave, and the other half of his life as a slave-soldier. That paradigm can typically produce “angst.”
Why not? The jedi council are just a bunch of fricks who sit around talking about shit and not doing anything. It's not like he'll be able to control the council.
I would've taken him out for a beer first to get a better read on him rather than just fricking roast him in front of the other council members.
But these are weird alien people and not humans so maybe that wouldn't have worked.
Sure! What's the worse thing that can happen?
>They're meant to be seen 1 through 6
Why was Lucas such a bullshitter.
whoa! first time i noticed his right arm's shadow is missing. interdashing
Anon, you are moronic. That's his left arm on TPM poster that is missing. Anakin is facing you on that picture.
you can't be a manchild and be this dumb. oh, wait
I remember when a TCW convert asked for EU recommendations and the filonigays seethed and shit talked while EUchads gave recommendations
yeah i would knowning this dude the so called child of prophecy, ill pamper this motherfricker with whatever he wants; want to frick broads on the side buddy? sure i know ayla secura is down for a gangbang, want to do deathsticks and decapitate youngling? i got elan sel'sabagno on speed dial baby and curved lightsabers CURVED. So long as anakin get rids of the sith im down even if he commits a warcrime
This has always been one of the weakest plot points, at least for me.
What makes you a Jedi Master? The Council's approval?
If yes, Anakin should have known this and realized he was being moronic. He was like... what, 22 or something? assuming mastery means something other than just acceptance he should have known he was too young to be considered for it.
He was too young, reckless and influenciable. That, combined with him being as strong as he was, is a recipe for disaster if you dont have someone to guide him properly, something the Jedi didnt want to do.
Then comes the other option: is mastery about power? Because he was pretty much gtfoing everyone there that wasnt Yoda or Mace Windu, and he had trained a padawan before.
If that's the measure, the Jedi were literally moronic.
However, the biggest moron of them all with all this stuff was Obi Wan, even if he is my fave Jedi. (Ewan McGregor and his gay show can rot tho).
Obi Wan KNEW that the Jedi constricting strong feelings tend to lead to disaster (see: Count Dooku) and instead of opposing the dogma and acknowledge that they were forcing Anakin into Palpatine's arms he was just
> well I guess I have to let go
Fricking shit tier plot point. This is why prequels struggle so hard: you cant break canon.
tldr I would have denied him the entry to the Council due to him getting brainwashed by Palpatine because polbrained people are morons.